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benign presence


Shreveport, LA
207 posts, Sep 2001

posted 02-07-2002 03:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scanner     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I’ve been thinking…a dangerous prospect…does it seem like events are starting to follow a pattern? First there’s some sort of “event” closely followed by chaos and disinformation. Then the government jumps in and institutes all sorts of programs and changes. Of course, the most recent and the most obvious case in point is the 9/11 disaster followed by Homeland Security, the current "war" and the beginning of our loss of privacy. It looks as if we may have another scenario going with the Enron fiasco. It appears the government is going to use this as a springboard for all sorts of financial reforms that look good on the surface, just like the Homeland Security deal, but could lead to some unforeseen and unwanted problems.

There have always been incidences…political, military, financial…where the government has taken the opportunity to justify their actions. With the advent of the age of technology, this seems to have accelerated. In the ‘40’s it was UFOs and aliens. The government said there was no such thing, but it made a real handy cover for black ops. Also, WWII justified the “bomb”. I can’t think of anything for the ‘50’s, except maybe rock and roll…heh-heh-heh. The ‘60’s? The “pill”, drugs, abortion, cults, no prayer in school. All sorts of government programs and moral and religious changes came out of that decade. As for the 70’s, 80,’s and ‘90’s….designer drugs, stock market shenanigans, rampant porno, convenient wars, environmental problems, weather and space strangeness, and on and on ad nauseaum. Some of the “incidences” even appear to have been staged in order to justify actions. Others were just a case of making hay while the sun was shining.

Anybody else see this or have I just finally gone ‘round the bend!

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amber
UK ENVOY


uk
445 posts, May 2001

posted 02-07-2002 03:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amber     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No...you are not going round the bend, Scanner Those who lean towards the conspiratorial view of history call it 'Problem. reaction, solution'. Hitler did it again and again and again....but then Hitler was mad/bad...so it couldn't possibly happen in our benign democracies

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FLKook
Chemspiracy Realist


East Central Florida
706 posts, Apr 2001

posted 02-07-2002 03:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FLKook     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
'Problem. reaction, solution'

Bingo.

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KrissaTMC2
Never Surrender!


Greenwich, CT, USA
472 posts, Feb 2002

posted 02-07-2002 07:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KrissaTMC2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You are absolutely right Scanner. There is definitely an agenda and a timetable here and a lot of the current events seem to be linked.

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quarky


North Carolina
668 posts, Apr 2001

posted 02-08-2002 08:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for penumbra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Agreed. Very little surprises me lately, everything that happens seems to be another piece of the puzzle falling into place...

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benign presence


Shreveport, LA
207 posts, Sep 2001

posted 02-08-2002 11:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scanner     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for your input, guys. I feel much better. Or at least I did until I saw the headline about Tom Ridge wanting to reorganize the government...not to mention the one about war games in N. Little Rock which are coming up. A little too close to home for comfort. I'm not really into conspiracy theories, just realize everything is not what it seems. Sometimes that's a good thing...sometimes not. Contray to popular(?) opinion, TPTB don't always have our best interests at heart. Money and power can corrupt the best of 'em. I realize there are too many arms of the government and their right hand doesn't have a clue what the left is doing. Something does need to be done about that, but too much power in one place can be dangerous as well. Guess we just need to keep our eyes open, but not necessarily our mouths shut!

Scanner

...with liberty and justice for all

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FLKook
Chemspiracy Realist


East Central Florida
706 posts, Apr 2001

posted 02-08-2002 12:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FLKook     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've posted this before but thought it would be of particular interest to you Scanner. Scroll down the page to the list of online videos.
http://www.ufon.org/html/david_icke_video.html

Those of you familiar with David Icke will enjoy this. I don't agree with all he says but if you can get through these videos he makes a great deal of sense.

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benign presence


Shreveport, LA
207 posts, Sep 2001

posted 02-08-2002 04:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scanner     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I saw your notice on the other thread. Icke is pretty far out, but I've read some of his stuff. Just about the time I think he's making sense, he brings in the reptilian shape-shifters and I start to question. Of course, that might not be so off-track. The original one made an appearance in Genesis 3. I'd like to see the videos, but my computer is old and slow so I don't think I'll be able to. Thanks for the input, though.

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KnewEyes
watcher


under those cloud-like things
665 posts, Apr 2001

posted 02-08-2002 06:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KnewEyes     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, that is the part where he starts to lose credibility, I agree. I recently read somewhere that, that was disinformation purposely told to him, in order to do just that,.. to try to discredit the WHOLE story.
Big surprise something like THAT happened. I'll try to find that article.

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FLKook
Chemspiracy Realist


East Central Florida
706 posts, Apr 2001

posted 02-08-2002 06:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FLKook     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, I'm not ready to make the leap to reptiles either. (no pun intended)Even if he is partially right it gives one pause.

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KnewEyes
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under those cloud-like things
665 posts, Apr 2001

posted 02-08-2002 08:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KnewEyes     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry I didn't make myself clearer, I meant that the shapeshifting part,, the human shapeshifting into reptilians part of the story, with Charles and the Queen,, that part was fed to him as disinfo to discredit his entire theory.

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FLKook
Chemspiracy Realist


East Central Florida
706 posts, Apr 2001

posted 02-08-2002 08:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FLKook     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's how I understood your meaning Kneweyes. You sound like you're quite familiar with his work. I've never read any of his books. Which do you recommend?

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Catnip57
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Central Washington
527 posts, Apr 2001

posted 02-08-2002 09:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catnip57     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
FLKook... I've just listened and watched the first two parts of the video that you recommended with David Icke... pretty interesting stuff there.

If the information is true that he presented about the Sons of God inbreeding with human women... then it becomes even more interesting about the reptilian blood lines.

Most people would remember the basic Bible story about creation and how Satan was referred to as the serpent who was cunning and wise and was responsible for getting Eve to commit the first sin in the garden of Eden. Of course it was after this deed of deception that the serpent was cursed to spend the rest of his days slithering around on his belly. So maybe he didn't quite look like a snake at first when he was talking Eve into eating the forbidden fruit.

Most Christian theology agrees that the Sons of God were actually the fallen angels that inbred with women during the time before the building of Noah's ark. And this is where the start of the contaminated gene pool begins.

When one begins to research the topic of ET's and their abductions of humans for some kind of research into our means of reproduction and their hybrid experiments then it starts to come together in a rather interesting picture. Sort of connects the dots.

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KnewEyes
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665 posts, Apr 2001

posted 02-08-2002 10:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KnewEyes     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Actually FLKook, I haven't read any of David Icke's books yet, but have read his website after stumbling upon it a while back, and as shocking as the material was, it fit in to what I had learned in the past and what was hinted at, by those who "knew the secret" back then, when it wasn't spoken openly about, as David Icke does. I can imagine what it must sound like to people who haven't got a clue as to what you're going to "lay on them". Totally and preposterously crazy nonsense it must first strike them as. I guess in a way I was lucky to have a very hard learned, but gradual awareness of this possibility. Not the total "out from left field" bombshell dropped into my scope of reality, as it must be for most, hearing it for the first time.
Catnip,, about the fallen angels, I don't know if you've seen these, but these photos of giant skulls are worth looking at, and that egyptian art at the bottom of the page, depicting the child's elongated skull, well it just makes you think. http://www.light1998.com/TASTE_TREAT.htm

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FLKook
Chemspiracy Realist


East Central Florida
706 posts, Apr 2001

posted 02-08-2002 10:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FLKook     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry Eyes, it was Scanner that mentioned reading his books. Any recommendations Scanner?

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copesetic
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Mesa , Arizona usa
23 posts, Oct 2001

posted 02-09-2002 01:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for copesetic   Visit copesetic's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pretty interesting vidio,unfortunatly,my virtually infallible broadband connection keeps going south!!!!!!!
What could POSIBLY BE UP WITH THAT!?
guess I'll hav ta buy the books
jim

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benign presence


Shreveport, LA
207 posts, Sep 2001

posted 02-10-2002 09:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scanner     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
FLK, I haven't actually read his books either. Just information on his website and others that carried some of his writings, so I can't recommend any of his books. As for Satan crawling on his belly the rest of his days, I think that referred more to his lowered position in the kingdom of God rather than his physical state. He is, however, a consummate shape-shifter. Supposedly he can take many forms and he can still appear as an "angel of light" if he wants to. Deception is the name of his game. In that sense, Icke is right on target. There's a lot of that going on.
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TELEVISION IS MIND CONTROL


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1115 posts, Oct 2000

posted 02-11-2002 05:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for defender     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
From Hegelian Principle


"A 3-step process authored by Hegel and perfected by the Marxist/Leninists: Thesis, Antithesis, Synthesis. The first step (thesis) is to create (or fabricate) a problem. The second step (antithesis) is to generate opposition to the problem (fear, panic, hysteria). The third step (synthesis) is to offer the solution to the problem in step 1 - change which would have been impossible to impose on the people without the proper psychological conditioning achieved in stages 1 and 2."


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TELEVISION IS MIND CONTROL


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1115 posts, Oct 2000

posted 02-11-2002 05:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for defender     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Scanner:
I’ve been thinking…a dangerous prospect…does it seem like events are starting to follow a pattern? First there’s some sort of “event” closely followed by chaos and disinformation. Then the government jumps in and institutes all sorts of programs and changes. Of course, the most recent and the most obvious case in point is the 9/11 disaster followed by Homeland Security, the current "war" and the beginning of our loss of privacy. It looks as if we may have another scenario going with the Enron fiasco. It appears the government is going to use this as a springboard for all sorts of financial reforms that look good on the surface, just like the Homeland Security deal, but could lead to some unforeseen and unwanted problems.

There have always been incidences…political, military, financial…where the government has taken the opportunity to justify their actions.



Gene Wheaton calls Shackley's Third Option the "operational manual" for the covert intelligence "lunatic fringe." This same lunatic intelligence crowd, states Wheaton, "as far back as the early 1980s, wanted to create a domestic terrorist threat in America so the people would become so frightened that they would give up some civil liberties and Constitutional rights, and give the CIA and Pentagon covert operators major domestic counter-terrorism powers."

As Wheaton writes:

The Third Option is not to have peace in the world, and not to have a full-scale world war. Instead, they wanted to cause worldwide instability, chaos and civil unrest in order to manipulate and control people and governments, including the United States; thus the creation of the domestic terrorist threat.[1228]

Notice that Wheaton calls this the creation of the domestic terrorist threat. Wheaton states what has been known for centuries by the so-called "enlightened ones" — the Illuminati, the Masons, the Rhodes Round Table, and their successors: the CFR, the Bilderbergers, and the Trilateral Commission — that out of chaos will come order (Ordo Ab Chao. )[1229]

Otherwise known as the "Hegelian Principle," this is the technique by which a normally repugnant idea (in this case a totalitarian police-state) is offered as the only viable solution to a intractable problem (in this case domestic terrorism), deliberately engineered by the state itself. As New American editor William Jasper notes:

…history is replete with examples of ruthless and corrupt politicians who have shamelessly exploited and manipulated tragic events and the criminal acts of a few to advance their own lust for power. In cases too numerous to mention, tyrants and aspiring despots have gone even further, engaging agents provocateurs to carry out assassinations, foment riots and rebellion, precipitate financial panics, attempt palace coups, feign foreign invasion, initiate acts of terrorism, and perform other infamous acts — all for the purpose of establishing a mass psychology of fear, a sense of "crisis," of imminent danger requiring the government to suspend normal liberties and seize vast new powers to deal with the "emergency."

Hitler came to power in precisely this manner, by burning down the German Parliament, the Reichstag, then blaming it on his enemies — in this case, the Communists. He then passed the Enabling Act (a form of anti-terrorism bill) for the "protection of the people and the state."

History is now repeating itself. As Adam Parfrey writes in Cult Rapture:

By definition, a terrorist must take credit for his violence, or else there is no compelling reason to commit a crime. The specific purpose of terrorism is gaining leverage on a specific political objective through the ability of threatening future terrorist acts. No one has claimed credit for the Oklahoma City bombing. Militia groups produced particularly vehement public statements condemning the crime.

"If the bombing was not terrorism," asks Portland Free Press editor Ace Hayes, "then what was it? It was pseudo-terrorism, perpetrated by compartmentalized covert operators for the purposes of state police power."

excerpt from...
http://www.constitution.org/OCBPT/ocbpt_13.htm



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FLKook
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East Central Florida
706 posts, Apr 2001

posted 02-11-2002 07:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FLKook     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Bilderberg group makes an interesting albeit frightening read. Just do a google search on those guys! A major piece of TPTS puzzle, that most have never heard of. Thanks for the great post Defender.

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benign presence


Shreveport, LA
207 posts, Sep 2001

posted 02-11-2002 09:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scanner     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the great posts all of you. Another troubling aspect is there appears to be two groups (maybe more) vying for control. Getting caught in the crossfire is not a comforting thought. Where are the good guys? Maybe it's like the following thread says:
http://www.indiotrail.org/lessons.htm

WE are the ones we've been looking for.

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benign presence


Shreveport, LA
207 posts, Sep 2001

posted 02-14-2002 01:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scanner     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Since we're on the subject of patterns, does it strike you odd that after all of these years, chemtrails are finally getting mainstream press? Isn't it about time for the government to come out and say something to cover their fannies? They disavowed all knowledge for a long time...guess they figured they'd ride that horse until it got so obvious and created so many questions they had to do something else. Isn't the usual "pattern" the government finally comes out with something...not necessarily the truth...but something that will get everyone off their back? Like maybe saying it deals with "national security" and can't yet be "publically disclosed"? We'll see, I guess. The recent TV coverage was pretty fair.

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