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Topic:   Drought Has Engulfed Nearly A Third Of The United States

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Dan Rockwell
Hoka hey! - heyokas!


Stamford, CT, USA
685 posts, Dec 2001

posted 03-13-2002 02:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dan Rockwell   Email Dan Rockwell     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hydrologist says region is in need of rain
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By Ryan Jockers
Staff Writer

March 9, 2002

A hydrologist studying groundwater in Greenwich said the region needs a lot of precipitation this month to avoid water shortages.

"It's too early to predict shortages," said John Mullaney, a hydrologist with the Connecticut District of the U.S. Geological Survey in East Hartford. "But any hope we have is between now and April."

Mullaney has been measuring the amount of water underground in town since the summer of 2000, and he gave an update on the study before the Conservation Commission on Thursday.

Before giving a presentation on the progress of the study, Mullaney spoke about the drought and how it affects the water table, which is the point below the surface where the ground becomes saturated with water.

The U.S. Geological Survey routinely monitors 90 wells in Connecticut to test the quality and quantity of groundwater. Tests last month showed that water levels in 50 of these wells, including four in Fairfield, were at the lowest point recorded for the month of January since testing at those wells began.

Mullaney said this month is critical because the groundwater should be at its maximum level at the beginning of April to meet the demands of vegetation.

Generally, the groundwater recharges from October to April -- when it is colder and there is less demand for water from plants and humans -- and then the water table drops from April to September.

He said the area would usually have received about 22 inches of precipitation since October, and only 9 inches have been recorded this year.

Mullaney said this drought is not as bad as one that affected the region in the mid-1960s, although even during that drought the water table rose in the colder months. He said because of a lack of rainfall in the autumn, and no snow on the ground now, the water levels have not recovered.

"We're not getting any recharge," he said, "and unless we get significant rainfall, the levels will decline."

The Greenwich groundwater study, which Mullaney is leading, is being done to gauge the availability of water for residents who use wells, and to plan how best to use that natural resource.

The U.S. Geological Survey is measuring streamflow at two places on the Middle Branch of the Byram River, and is monitoring water levels at three wells in town.

Mullaney said by using water table levels and types and other topographical data, he hopes to create an accurate equation that predicts the amount of water used in any specific part of town. At the end of the study, the U.S. Geological Survey will present a final report to the Conservation Commission.
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This article originally appeared at: http://www.stamfordadvocate.com/news/scn-gt-waterstudymar09.story

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Deborah
Protect & Serve


Boston, MA
269 posts, Jul 2000

posted 03-14-2002 09:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Deborah     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Deb aka Chickiedeb aka nodebbunker wrote:

....I don't, and I doubt that Duncan does, use any strategies or ploys as you suggest....


No, of course you don't. You just pass other people's **personal information** on to the likes of Jay Reynolds and others of your crew and let them do your dirty work FOR you.

Still going strong, I see.

Deborah
Boston, MA

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Deborah
Protect & Serve


Boston, MA
269 posts, Jul 2000

posted 03-14-2002 09:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Deborah     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Drought Monitor Update
12 March 2002
http://enso.unl.edu/monitor/monitor.html

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N.H. declares drought emergency
http://www.fosters.com/news2002a/mar02/13/nh0313q.htm


State to declare drought emergency
http://www.citizen.com/news2002/March/13/con0313bb.htm


Low water level at Laurel Reservoir reveals lost town
http://www.ctnow.com/news/local/fc/scn-sa-reservoir1mar13.story?coll=hc%2Dheadlines%2D fc


Drought emergency curbs seen for central Maryland
http://www.sunspot.net/news/local/bal-md.water13mar13.story?coll=bal%2Dlocal%2Dheadlin es


Water warning issued
http://www.telegram.com/news/page_one/drought.html


Maine eligible for federal disaster aid to offset drought-related farm losses
http://www.fosters.com/news2002a/mar02/13/me0313f.htm


Forum explores water woes
http://www.denverpost.com/Stories/0,1002,53%257E460867,00.html


Maine proposes lowering Presumpscot to boost level of drought-stricken Sebago
http://www.fosters.com/news2002a/mar02/13/me0313a.htm

[Edited 1 times, lastly by Deborah on 03-14-2002]

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Dan Rockwell
Hoka hey! - heyokas!


Stamford, CT, USA
685 posts, Dec 2001

posted 03-14-2002 11:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dan Rockwell   Email Dan Rockwell     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The situation is still pretty bsd here in Stamford. We did have a little rain yesterday. It drizzled for most of the day and all we ended up with was 0.15" of precipitation. I checked the forcast for tomorrow and again there was a picture of a rain cloud with a question mark in the middle of it. The water company is trying to downplay the situation, but the Laurel and Samual Bargh reservoirs are dangerously low. We've had droughts before but not ones that brought the water level down low enough in the Laurel Reservoir to see the foundations of our lost town.

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hitech_46253
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Indianapolis, IN U.S.
100 posts, May 2001

posted 03-14-2002 02:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hitech_46253   Email hitech_46253   Visit hitech_46253's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Drought threatens New York City http://www.nypost.com/news/regionalnews/43442.htm
City officials said yesterday they are ready to declare a drought emergency in New York in as little as two weeks if the weather stays dry at upstate reservoirs.

Forecasters Predict Rain in East, but Not Enough to Break Drought http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,47919,00.html
"The drought in some areas will worsen as we move into the warmer months, when demand for water is greatest, said NOAA Administrator Conrad Lautenbacher, Jr. "Nearly four years of little rain and snow in some places has left many areas with deep water deficits," he said. "Changing weather patterns may offer a glimmer of hope, but we don't see the water levels returning to normal anytime soon."

(Remember, the CHEMTRAILS were first reported getting HEAVY beginning late 1998.)

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KrissaTMC2
Never Surrender!


Greenwich, CT, USA
196 posts, Feb 2002

posted 03-14-2002 06:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KrissaTMC2   Email KrissaTMC2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've been praying rain and all I'm getting is chemclouds.

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FLKook
Don't Chemplicate Life


East Central Florida
690 posts, Apr 2001

posted 03-14-2002 09:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FLKook     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
All the name calling has got to go on both sides. If you read back or hang around long enough it's easy to see which side usually starts it. It is difficult not to swing back and defend yourself. But once you do they take a thread and turn it into what this has become.

I don't buy what Deb says anymore than most of you, but there is no need to bite the bait. It just makes two pigs wallowing the mud. Easy..easy... it's a parable.

It is frustrating watching day after day knowing someone new is checking out this board for the first time and seeing the hash slinging.

Oh yeah, there is one thing worse... to hear the debunkers with the same lame arguments and put downs just because they know someone hasn't heard it, yet. That person is then more likely to be discouraged from this web site. It sure keeps some of us here going round and round, with them...maybe that's the whole purpose.

I doubt she changes any minds on the issue but has chased a few would be researchers off to find friendlier ground.

Meanwhile, what I came here to post was more news on the drought. We can't study chemtrails without the weather, this is an important thread.

Thursday, March 14, 2002

NEW YORK — Gripped by drought, states from the Atlantic Ocean nearly to the Pacific have become a veritable tinderbox ready for the spark — and there's no relief in sight, weather forecasters said Thursday.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,47924,00.html

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FLKook
Don't Chemplicate Life


East Central Florida
690 posts, Apr 2001

posted 03-14-2002 09:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FLKook     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For the record to my knowledge 3T3L1 is a fine person, a searcher of the truth and still a chemmie. Where and when did her seriousness about the reality of chemtrails come in to question? Her digging around turned up ground breaking news to me on fuel dumps.

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Deborah
Protect & Serve


Boston, MA
269 posts, Jul 2000

posted 03-14-2002 10:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Deborah     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
14 March 2002
The Associated Press


Rain in East May Not Be Enough
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20020314/ap_on_re_us/drought_2

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theseeker
One moon circles


Oklahoma
1009 posts, Jul 2000

posted 03-15-2002 03:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for theseeker   Email theseeker   Visit theseeker's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
this is an interesting perspective, "chemtrails (contrails) inducing drought" personally, my figures indicate that when I see contrails the chance of rain increases 50 % , and more often than not when I see contrails within a day we have rain....or precipitation...

some areas experience radical drought, ask the egyptians (2000 to 10000 bc) where all the trees and plant life went, ask the extinct mayans where the water went in a tropical rainforest, or someone from the dust bowl days of Oklahoma...

equating this to a chemtrail (man made) inference is...off the mark...so to speak...

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penumbra
quarky


North Carolina
492 posts, Apr 2001

posted 03-15-2002 07:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for penumbra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yesterday (3/14) on Good Morning America, the weatherman was talking about the drought situation. He spoke of South Carolina in particular. The governor of SC came on, and said that they are 64" below normal rainfall for the past three years. !!!!

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FLKook
Don't Chemplicate Life


East Central Florida
690 posts, Apr 2001

posted 03-15-2002 07:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FLKook     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Seems if TPTS are plastering the media with this so heavily that they are prepping us for something. Don't ya think?
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,47963,00.html

Talking about the possibility of weather control as a potential purpose of Chemtrails,
opens the idea to both rain and drought. One doesn't preclude the other.

To quote another thread that should be part of this topic: It's about the water. To have and to have not.

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Deborah
Protect & Serve


Boston, MA
269 posts, Jul 2000

posted 03-15-2002 09:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Deborah     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Seeker wrote:

....my figures indicate that when I see contrails the chance of rain increases 50% , and more often than not when I see contrails within a day we have rain....or precipitation....


Your "figures" and observations may be accurate for *your* region.

They do not reflect what is **actually going on** in OTHER regions.

One doesn't have to be *paranoid* to find certain developing patterns a little scary.

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theseeker
One moon circles


Oklahoma
1009 posts, Jul 2000

posted 03-15-2002 04:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for theseeker   Email theseeker   Visit theseeker's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
deborah wrote :/

Your "figures" and observations may be accurate for *your* region.

They do not reflect what is **actually going on** in OTHER regions.

One doesn't have to be *paranoid* to find certain developing patterns a little scary.

I don't know where the word paranoid fits here ?!?!?!

and looking at the palmer drought index seems the majority of the country is right where it should be...tell me where I'm wrong ?


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3T3L1
Differentiated Mouse Fibroblasts


Lubbock, Texas
1347 posts, Mar 2001

posted 03-15-2002 05:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 3T3L1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Seeker--

I have this posted on the first page of the thread, but I'll repost it here. This map also has the NOAA seal of approval, but unless we've had a bunch of rain lately, it tells a different story than your map. I wonder which one is "true."

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3T3L1
Differentiated Mouse Fibroblasts


Lubbock, Texas
1347 posts, Mar 2001

posted 03-15-2002 05:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 3T3L1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Seeker--

Here's the most recent of the maps in that series. It suggests that the drought is worsening, and it looks even less like your drought map. Have we stepped through the looking glass?

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Deb
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Plainfield, Indiana USA
163 posts, Oct 2001

posted 03-15-2002 06:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Deb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You're looking at 2 different types of reports-
http://enso.unl.edu/monitor/current.html

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Deborah
Protect & Serve


Boston, MA
269 posts, Jul 2000

posted 03-15-2002 07:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Deborah     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Seeker wrote:

....my figures indicate that when I see contrails the chance of rain increases 50% , and more often than not when I see contrails within a day we have rain....or precipitation....


I inferred from this statement that you were referring to observations made in your area. If I was wrong, I apologize.

All I am saying is that the incidence of trailing in my area, which is the only area I will reference here - the incidence of trailing in my area more often than not results in a very different situation than what you are conveying regarding your area.

You can reference "probability" of precipitation all you like. I am interested only in what actually HAPPENS.

You don't live over here, so you don't know firsthand what is actually occurring in this region.

Let's leave "right" and "wrong" out of it.

What is, IS, pre-calculated figures and probabilities and frankly, at this point, what could reasonably be *expected* based on prior direct experience, notwithstanding.

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theseeker
One moon circles


Oklahoma
1009 posts, Jul 2000

posted 03-15-2002 08:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for theseeker   Email theseeker   Visit theseeker's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Let's leave "right" and "wrong" out of it.

well your right, when looking at data that for the most part is a generalization of what has been and should happen, right and wrong don't necessarily enter the mix...in other words...these maps are a "educated guess" of what *may* happen...

here's one that deals with precip only, that shows an easing of the drought...and a snippet on interpreting it...


3 month drought

It is important to compare the 3-month SPI with longer time scales. A relatively normal 3-month period could occur in the middle of a longer-term drought that would only be visible at longer time scales. A good example of this can be illustrated by the four Climate Divisions in southeastern Nebraska. The 3-month SPI for the end of March 1996showed these Climate Divisions in the "near normal" category, largely because of above-normal precipitation in January 1996. However, dry conditions across this region began in June 1995, and can be seen in the 6-month SPI for the end of March 1996. Looking at longer time scales, as in this example, would prevent a misinterpretation that any "drought" might be over

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hitech_46253
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Indianapolis, IN U.S.
100 posts, May 2001

posted 03-18-2002 09:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hitech_46253   Email hitech_46253   Visit hitech_46253's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Silence of the frogs: Drought threatens amphibians' habitat http://www.stamfordadvocate.com/news/local/scn-gt-frogs3mar10.story

May Not Be Enough http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20020314/ap_on_re_us/drought_2

Farmers Pray for Rain http://www.csmonitor.com/2002/0315/p03s01-ussc.html
Much of the U.S. is facing the worst drought in a century.
Despite drought, N.J. pools will open (Philadelphia Daily News and Inquirer)
http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/krphiladelphia/20020316/lo/despite_drought_n_j_pools_will_open_1.html
...We need strong coordination to get through this drought emergency....

Desertification Seen Ravaging Farming and Wildlife Sun Mar 17, 1:23 PM ET - (Reuters) http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=585&u=/nm/20020317/sc_nm/food_biotech_desertification_dc_1
ALEXANDRIA, Egypt (Reuters) - Desertification is devastating farm production and the variety of plant and animal life in many parts of the world, adding to pressure to produce food more efficiently, delegates at a conference said Sunday.
Drought could sprout more crop insurance (Allentown Morning Call)
http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/mcall/20020315/lo/drought_could_sprout_more_crop_insurance_1.html
To better his odds against the drought, Northampton County farmer Robert Fulmer decided to buy more crop insurance.

Drought won't go away with spring rains (USA TODAY) http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/usatoday/20020315/ts_usatoday/3944956
WASHINGTON -- Spring rains during the next few months won't be enough to end the severe drought that stretches from Maine to Georgia, federal officials said Thursday. And the devastating drought in the northern Rockies will probably continue, too, the officials said.

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Deb
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Plainfield, Indiana USA
163 posts, Oct 2001

posted 03-19-2002 08:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Deb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Drought Assessment through June, 2002 -
http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/expert_assessment/seasonal_drought.html

Still waiting for an explanation about the West Coast.

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theseeker
One moon circles


Oklahoma
1009 posts, Jul 2000

posted 03-19-2002 09:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for theseeker   Email theseeker   Visit theseeker's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
looks like the old addage "be careful what you wish for" (rain)...6 dead already from floods...maybe the *drought* talk is over now...

psssst...larry, it's raining...

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Dan Rockwell
Hoka hey! - heyokas!


Stamford, CT, USA
685 posts, Dec 2001

posted 03-19-2002 09:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dan Rockwell   Email Dan Rockwell     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The drought's not over here....yet. We only had 0.46" of precipitation yesterday which brings up the total precipitation since January to 2.28".

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theseeker
One moon circles


Oklahoma
1009 posts, Jul 2000

posted 03-19-2002 10:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for theseeker   Email theseeker   Visit theseeker's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
it's interesting how some folks think the weather rain, snow etc. is supposed to be predictable...when it never has been...

we've had almost a foot of rain in the last 36 hours...

if you don't get any this time, hang in there april showers bring may flowers

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Dan Rockwell
Hoka hey! - heyokas!


Stamford, CT, USA
685 posts, Dec 2001

posted 03-20-2002 09:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dan Rockwell   Email Dan Rockwell     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry about that T/S. Just got the data in early this morning about the rain in Kentucky.

I just checked in with GHCC and a large percentage of the storm is covering us now.
We've got 0.15" of precipitation so far with an estimated rate of 0.12" an hour. The wind is picking up and it looks like we're in for a good downpour today.

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