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penumbra
quarky


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667 posts, Apr 2001

posted 05-17-2002 09:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for penumbra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Queen of Heaven has many different names. I'll start with one of the most familiar.

The cult of Isis was one of the most important of the empire wide cults in the later empire, and perhaps its greatest monument is in Lucius Apuleius very strange novel, The Golden Ass. Here Isis appears to Lucius, and claims to be all goddesses. We see here the workings of an intense religious syncretism. Isis is here the Queen of Heaven and principal of all the gods and goddesses. http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/ancient/lucius-assa.html

Modern-day "Fellowship of Isis" website. Please note the Altar of Ishtar: http://www.fellowshipofisis.com/g5.html

Isis was also known as the female Ra: http://www.touregypt.net/isis.htm

And speaking of crop circles...



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FLKook
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posted 05-17-2002 10:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FLKook     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Another look at the Queen of Heaven...
ripped from cuttingedge.org


TITLE: THE VIRGIN MARY IS POPULARLY AND AFFECTIONATELY CALLED THE "QUEEN OF HEAVEN".

Subtitle: THIS TITLE IS SHOCKING AND DEMONSTRATES THAT THE ORIGIN OF THE WORSHIP OF THE VIRGIN MARY IS PAGAN, NOT BIBLICAL


NEWS BRIEF: "Among all the women who have ever lived, the mother of Jesus Christ is the most celebrated, the most venerated... Among Roman Catholics, the Madonna is recognized not only as the Mother of God, but also, according to modern Popes, as the Queen of the Universe, Queen of Heaven, Seat of Wisdom, and even the Spouse of the Holy Spirit." (Time Magazine, "Handmaid or Feminist?", December 30, 1991, p. 62-66).


Most Roman Catholic adherents cheerfully refer to the Virgin Mary as the Queen of Heaven and understand this term to one of endearment, love, and adoration. Is this title a Biblical term or a Pagan title? Is God pleased with this title, or is He mightily displeased? Let us look in Scripture.


1. "Seest thou not what they do in the cities of Judah and in the streets of Jerusalem? The children gather wood, and the fathers kindle the fire, and the women knead their dough, to make cakes to the queen of heaven, and to pour out drink offerings unto other gods, that they may provoke me to anger." [Jeremiah 7:17-18] In this section of Jeremiah, God is telling Israel why He is about to physically destroy them as a nation. God is acting much like a Prosecutor who is informing the accused as to the charges against them. Notice that God is very angry that these people are preparing to worship the Queen of Heaven. He is saying that this worship of the Queen of Heaven is "provoking" Him to anger!

2. "As for the word that thou hast spoken unto us in the name of the LORD, we will not hearken unto thee. But we will certainly do whatsoever thing goeth forth out of our own mouth, to burn incense unto the queen of heaven, and to pour out drink offerings unto her, as we have done, we, and our fathers, our kings, and our princes, in the cities of Judah, and in the streets of Jerusalem: for then had we plenty of victuals, and were well, and saw no evil. And when we burned incense to the queen of heaven, and poured out drink offerings unto her, did we make her cakes to worship her, and pour out drink offerings unto her, without our men?"

[Jeremiah 44:16-17] Here, we see that the people are defiantly refusing to obey God, and are continuing to worship this Queen of Heaven.


3. "Thus saith the LORD of hosts, the God of Israel, saying; Ye and your wives have both spoken with your mouths, and fulfilled with your hand, saying, We will surely perform our vows that we have vowed, to burn incense to the queen of heaven, and to pour out drink offerings unto her: ye will surely accomplish your vows, and surely perform your vows." [Jeremiah 44:25] We see that God has finally gotten the message, that the people are going to worship this Queen of Heaven no matter what He says. Therefore, God tells them to go ahead with their rebellion, because He is going to totally destroy them. You can read the full account of this Divine Judgment in Jeremiah 44:1-20-29, and we encourage you to read it, for God never changes, and He would be just as enraged today about this idolatrous worship as He was then.


The question, then, is, who is this Queen of Heaven which the Israelites were worshipping, that provoked God to such anger? Fortunately, Jewish historical records tell us exactly what this Queen of Heaven was that so angered God.


First, let us examine the ancient Queen of Heaven. Most of this information is taken from Alexander Hislop's book, "The Two Babylons", 1917. Hislop traces the Babylonian worship of the Queen of Heaven back to the days following the death of Nimrod. The dating of this event is not known exactly, but seems to date 400+ years after the flood. After Nimrod's death, his wife, Semiramis, was determined to retain her power and wealth. She concocted the story that Nimrod's death was for the salvation of mankind. Nimrod was touted as "the woman's promised seed, Zero-ashta, who was destined to bruise the serpent's head, and in so doing, was to have his own heel bruised." (p. 58-59)


We can easily see that this story is a counterfeit to the true prophecy concerning Jesus Christ. To enable the Babylonian people to better worship this child, a woodcut portrait was created, depicting him in his mother's arms. The mother obviously drew her glory from her deified son. However, "the mother, in the long-run, practically eclipsed the son" in worship. The original picture obviously was meant to merely be a "pedestal for the upholding of the divine son...But, while this... was the design, it is a plain principle in all idolatries that that which most appeals to the senses must make the most powerful impression." (p, 74) The mother obviously created the most powerful visual impression, both because she was an adult and because she was so magnificently arrayed.


Once people began to worship the mother more than the child, Babylonian priests felt forced to issue an edict deifying the mother also. After the passage of still more time, "her son's birth was boldly declared to be miraculous, and therefore she was called ...the Virgin Mother." (p.76) "The highest titles were then bestowed upon her. She was called the Queen of Heaven. In Egypt, she was styled Athor, i.e., the Habitation of God to signify that in her dwelt all the 'fulness of the Godhead'". (p.77) From this pagan beginning, the story of the Virgin Mother ( Queen of Heaven) spread throughout the world. In:

* Egypt, she was called Athor (p77)

* Tibet and China, she was called Virgo Deipara (p77)

* Greece, she was called Hestia (Ibid)

* Rome, she was called Juno, or Dove. (p79).


Thus, we can see that this ancient Queen of Heaven was a Pagan counterfeit of the Virgin Mary. She was a Divine Mother that had given birth to a Divine Child! Of special note is the connection in Rome with the Dove. Why?


In Ancient Babylon, both the worship of the Virgin Mother and her symbol, the Dove, "identified her with the Spirit of all grace ...the Holy Ghost." (p. 79). Thus, the Pagan Trinity is God the Father, the Son, and the Virgin Mother. Indeed, the Roman Catholic Church has made this same claim, as Hislop noted, in the nineteenth century (p. 83). Hislop concludes, "The Madonna of Rome... is just the Madonna of Babylon. The Queen of Heaven in the one system is the same as the Queen of Heaven in the other." (Ibid)


If you cannot believe these facts, above, maybe you will believe the testimony of avowed Pagans in today's world. Listen to their testimony:


1) In his most blasphemous book, The Armageddon Script, Peter Lemesurier writes enthusiastically about the worship of the Great Mother Earth. He writes as though he is an astronaut in a spaceship in orbit around our planet. "As they rounded the barren lunar globe for the... last time, and the resplendent half-earth once again rose from behind that now familiar curved and rocky horizon, what they saw coming up to meet them was strangely familiar. An image straight out of the racial memory. A god out of the world of the archetypes. It was none other than the rounded form of the Great Mother, Earth herself, clad in the same flowering robes of shimmering blue and white that had been those of mother-goddesses of earth and sky throughout man's history - and not least his most recent mother-goddess, the Virgin Mary herself..." (p. 245-6).


Peter Lemesurier, as a Pagan worshipper, has no difficulty recognizing the truth that the worship of the Virgin Mary is ancient Pagan idolatry. Therefore, non-Christian Pagans the world over will have little difficulty accepting the worship of the Roman Catholic Virgin Mother.


2) Another New Age writer, China Galland, a practicing American Buddhist, has written a very revealing book entitled Longing For Darkness. Galland enthusiastically establishes the commonality between the Virgin Mary and other Pagan goddesses.


"Durga, the warrior queen... was the only one who could restore harmony and set the world at peace... the gods sang her praises, called her the Queen of the Universe..." Remember the Time Magazine, quoted above, which reports that one of the names by which the Virgin Mary is known is the Queen of the Universe? Galland continues:


"I had come to find the Buddha Tara, but instead I found the goddesses Durgan and Kali...Kali, the death-dealer and life-giver, the end and beginning of time. She was a deity of such proportions as I had heard only God the Father in Christianity described. The fact that Kali is dark and female turned my Catholic upbringing inside out... Some say she is black because black is the color in which all distinctions are dissolved, others say she is black because she is eternal night." (p. 27) These two goddesses are Hindu.


The Buddhist goddess, Tara, was the object of Galland's search as she traveled the Far East. However, she was startled when she discovered that there are Hindu texts that describe Kali as Tara." (p. 30) This discovery links Hinduism with Buddhism.

D -- Later, back in the United States, Galland discovered another New Age book entitled Mother Worship, by author Tara Doyle. This book reported the phenomenon of the Black Madonna in Switzerland. Galland records, "I didn't recall that there were any dark female divinities in Christianity. I thought they were unique to religions such as Hinduism and Buddhism. I could remember virtually nothing about a dark or black Madonna despite my years of Catholic upbringing... A brief entry in Newsweek magazine caught my eye. The Virgin Mary was reported to be appearing in the barks of trees in... Poland. I was intrigued... It seemed to be such a similar phenomenon to what had been reported about the Tara ..I wondered what was going on in the spritus mundi, the spirit of the world, that reports of female deities literally emerging out of rocks and trees were surfacing in both East and West. The simultaneity was symbolically important..."(p. 49-50).


Later, Galland asks a Buddhist Master Teacher about the connection between these appearances, "I showed him the magazine clipping on the reported appearance of the Madonna in the bark of trees in Poland...[he replied] it is very similar to what we are talking about here. We have many occurrences like this in Tibetan Buddhism. We call it rangjung, it means self-arising ...These things appear because of the power and blessings of enlightened beings. Such beings work through the power of mental substance and the power of concentration..." (p. 65-66) Galland recounts her later meeting with the Dalai Lama. When she asks him about the Blessed Mother appearing in the bark of trees in Poland, he agrees that this phenomenon is Buddhist rangjung. (p. 95)


We should not be surprised that Satan is now causing female deities to appear all over the world at this moment in history. If this is indeed the end of the age, then it is time for Satan to draw together his prophesied church.


We encourage you to read CE1008, "Virgin Mary And Pagan Goddess Worship" for more details on this phenomena. Do not be deceived: the Roman Catholic worship of their Virgin Mary, whom they call the Queen of Heaven, is a rebirth of the Pagan worship of various Queens of Heaven throughout history, by various names. In each of these various countries, the Queen of Mother is a Virgin Mother who has given birth to a Divine Child. Further, the worship of the Catholic Queen of Heaven is precisely the same as the worship of the Queen of Heaven in Ancient Israel, as recorded in Jeremiah above.


God's reaction will also be the same: physical Judgment, destruction. What are you to do now that you know the truth? Listen to Jesus' Words, spoken at the End of the Age.


"And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her [the evil system], my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues. For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities." Revelation 18:4-5


Just before Jesus' final destruction comes upon the evil system in the Great Tribulation Period Jesus calls one final warning to His people, to come out and be separate and ask forgiveness or they will be destroyed also. This warning applies to you if you are a practicing, believing Roman Catholic. Please carefully read all our articles, as we systematically seek to show you the total Paganism which comprises Roman Catholicism, a Paganism very cleverly hidden behind Christian concepts, words, and names. But, it is Paganism all the same.


May God Richly Bless You!


If you have never accepted Jesus Christ as Savior, but have come to realize His reality and want to accept His FREE Gift of Eternal Life, you can also do so now, in the privacy of your home. Once you accept Him as Savior, you are spiritually Born Again, and are as assured of Heaven as if you were already there. Then, you can rest assured that nothing will not hurt you spiritually. You will also know the greatest heart peace that the greatest God can give to one of His own children.

If you would like to become Born Again, and come to know this wonderful heart peace, turn to our Salvation Page now.

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penumbra
quarky


North Carolina
667 posts, Apr 2001

posted 05-17-2002 10:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for penumbra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Pagan Sun Worship and Catholicism
The Sunburst Image, the Queen of Heaven and Baal."
http://www.aloha.net/~mikesch/sunburst.htm

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quarky


North Carolina
667 posts, Apr 2001

posted 05-17-2002 10:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for penumbra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Queen of Heaven Lodge, O.T.O.":
(Ordo Templi Orientis)

http://216.239.39.100/search?q=cache:0y32yWcYphAC:www.nvstar.com/+queen+of+heaven&hl=en

Some symbolism from their site...
Do you think this is a naga?

and of course the Rosy Cross:


http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/ubb/Forum6/HTML/000628.html


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penumbra
quarky


North Carolina
667 posts, Apr 2001

posted 05-17-2002 10:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for penumbra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"In the Western traditions we find the sae ubiquity for the Naga, or Serpent. One simple example is the Ancient Greek Goddess, Athena. She is known as a warrior Goddess as well as the Goddess of Wisdom; her symbol being the Serpent as displayed on her personal shield. " http://www.thelema.net/ramsey/naga.html

Link to the "I Find it Offensive" thread with msswv123's info on the Naga: http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/001189.html

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penumbra
quarky


North Carolina
667 posts, Apr 2001

posted 05-17-2002 10:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for penumbra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here is a new statue of Athena in Tennessee. (hmmm, is that a Naga too?):

(The image is copyrighted, please visit the link to view http://www.thanasis.com/athenvvm.jpg


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PHANTOM911
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posted 05-17-2002 11:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PHANTOM911     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Does Daimler Chrysler really think people don't notice the obvious?



(Sorry, my site is temporarily down, though my host's isn't,pictures should return soon.)And now it's back up. Hmmmmm... somebody's screwing with me?

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Tower
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posted 05-17-2002 12:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tower   Email Tower     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I suggest you go here -
http://www.iwonderproductions.com/suncru.htm

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KrissaTMC2
Never Surrender!


Greenwich, CT, USA
472 posts, Feb 2002

posted 05-17-2002 05:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KrissaTMC2   Email KrissaTMC2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh yes, the Sun Cruiser. - I forgot about that one Tower.

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penumbra
quarky


North Carolina
667 posts, Apr 2001

posted 05-20-2002 10:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for penumbra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Diana -


http://www.rumormillnews.com/mad.htm

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penumbra
quarky


North Carolina
667 posts, Apr 2001

posted 05-20-2002 10:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for penumbra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"This Roman Diana is known as "Diana Lucifera". Her grace, strength and power reflect the most consistent attributes of all Diana images. This is the Diana that was known in British Isles. "
http://www.spiralgoddess.com/


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quarky


North Carolina
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posted 05-20-2002 10:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for penumbra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Goddess Diana a.k.a. Lucifera:


 

LUCIFER is a Latin name which means "Light-Bringer." It is also the name of Venus, the Morning and Evening Star. Lucifer is also the Sun God, the eternal consort of the Moon Goddess Diana. The LRG calls the Goddess Lucifera. The conjunction of the God and Goddess is called the God(dess) or Luxifer(a) (The Divine Androgyne). In other words, (t)here is one energy (Shakti) with two poles (The Double-Wanded One) and an infinite number of possibilities.

ING, the "word" of the Aion of Luxifer(a), differs from the aeonic words of Aleister Crowley (Thelema: "Will"), Charles Stansfeld Jones (Ma'at: "Justice") and Nema (Ipsos: "By The Same Mouth") because ING is an all-inclusive utterance (not even a word unto itself, only acquiring meaning through associating) which does not negate any of the forementioned terms (i.e. willing, establishing justice, speaking). These three are equally brilliant in their own way and in relationship to one another. ING is simply the kiss that brings them all to life.

AION is a Greek word which means "life," "age," and "world." Thus one is living, aging, and becoming in the world, which in turn, is living, aging, and becoming as a whole. This union of the dual Microchaosmos (i.e. Mind-Body, Male-Female, God-Devil, Light-Darkness) and the Macrochaosmos is best represented by the Aionic or Daimonic Star , the central symbol of The LRG. It illustrates the reconciling of all opposites and is also called the X-agram or the Diamond of Dialectic.
http://www.netaccess.on.ca/~lrg/
 


 
 

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quarky


North Carolina
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posted 05-24-2002 09:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for penumbra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Fatima- Queen of Heaven

The Church of my youth was "Our Lady of Fatima ". On the backdrop of the altar were large wooden plaques , one of which depicted Our Lady of Fatima with the three children of Fatima . Another was a " a large boat without oars " The "hand" of Our Lady of Bologne Sur Mer is our first clue of many, and as in all of Our Lady's apparitions, this hand points to her Fatima apparitions. For "Fatima" is the Shi'ite Islamic goddess, the source of the "sun", and her "hand", surmounting the solar disc, represents Islam ! ( The Woman's Encyclopedia of Myths and Secrets , Barbara Walker, pp 52, 509) Mohammed thus, named his daughter Fatima, and the first Shi'ite Muslims were the Fatimids.

Of the Fatimids is written " The Fatimids (8th century) propped up their power by gathering the Ishmaelites into a Grand Lodge of complex initiations and hierarchical degrees; the members were used for political espionage and intrigue; the forms of the order were transmitted to Jerusalem and Europe and strongly influenced the organization, garb and ritual of the Templars, the Illuminati ,and other secret fraternities of the western world. The American businessman is periodically a zealous Mohammedan, proud of his secret doctrine, his Moroccan fez and his Moslem shrine." ( The Age of Faith , Will Durant p 289 )

Our Lady of Fatima first appeared in Fatima Portugal on May 13 (the date in 1310 Templar executions began ).She last appeared on Oct13 ( date the Templars were arrested ) On that day she performed a miracle of the "sun" which became known as the Miracle of the Sun of Fatima. Fatima was and is the Islamic Sun Goddess of the Templar headquarters, the Aqsa Mosque ! She is a personification of Egyptian sun worship, which was the worship of the Templars and of present day Freemasonry. http://www.dbis.ns.ca/~fatima/add7-3.htm

More on Lady Fatima: http://www.truthbeknown.com/islam.htm

quote:
She is divine in origin and several variations of a major hadith describe how she was conceived on the night of Meraj (ascension). On this night Gabriel took Muhammad to Jerusalem and then to Heaven. While up in Heaven, he was offered some heavenly fruit, the seed of which was responsible for her conception, after Prophet’s arrival at home on the same night and making love to his beloved Khadija. This story is important and has become a point of departure between Sunni and Shiite with respect to her age. Following Shiite account since she was conceived on this night she lived for only 18 years. While Sunni believe she was born five years before revelation and as a result she is 10 years older.
 
She is called Zahra, the radiant one, a universal motif and a characteristic of all saints. She is also called Batul, meaning virgin. She is Queen of mankind and is compared to Mary and is called Maryam and like Mary she is Queen of Heaven. She is the first woman who will enter the paradise and all those who accompany her or have prayed to her will also enter paradise and their sins will be forgiven, she is their shafes and protector. She is mohadatheh, the one who talks and is in contact with angles. In fact angles are at her service. Archangel Gabriel representing the Holy Ghost praises her at her incredible wedding in heaven and angles assist her when she is giving birth to her children and are present at her deathbed.
http://iranscope.ghandchi.com/Anthology/Women/massoumeFatima.htm


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Simply put: "For there is one God, and ONE MEDIATOR between God and men, a man, Christ Jesus."1Timothy 2:5 ( He being called the Son of God and in subjection to his Heavenly Father.) "The Son cannot do a single thing of his own initiative, but only what he beholds the Father doing. For whatever things that One does, these things the Son also does in like manner. (One God, Yahweh or english translation, Jehovah derived from the Hebrew Tetragrammaton YHWH) " John 5:19, "You must not have any other gods against my face." Exodus 20:3 (Only one GOD, JEHOVAH and one Son, one mediator, Jesus Christ.

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herbivore
Along for the ride


New Mexico
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posted 05-27-2002 02:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for herbivore     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For those with eyes to see and ears to hear, this comes from Anonymous. I received it a few days ago:

A brief message from the Council of Nine (which I see represented as an eye which sees 360 degrees):

quote:
Appeal and pray to the mother of your race, the one represented as the Madonna. She has a powerful force of angelic helpers and elementals, which can be accessed through prayer. Also appeal to the element of water, for the fire realm is rising and will attempt to assert itself.

Within the probabilities/possibilities within your current time/space, many events are possible. You are aware of these scenarios, and we will not add to their energy by voicing them. We understand your concern, and that of many of the more enlightened dwellers of your sphere.

The power of mind and will is very strong in your race, therefore and accordingly we thank you for your conscientiousness, and ask that it be applied to constructive ends, that of the visualization and appeal to the proper helpers for the continued well being of your peoples. All is well.

Shalom.



I invite those of you who are even passingly religious/hopeful to pray with me every day to Our Lady for peace, truth, justice, prosperity for all, the revelation of the great lies and secrets, and the end of chemtrailing and drought. Please also give thanks for CT-free days, and the remaining chance we still have to make things right.

(If anyone finds this offensive, please ignore it. Thanks.)





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