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Thermit
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2621 posts, Jul 2000

posted 06-13-2002 09:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Thermit   Email Thermit   Visit Thermit's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
COSMIC DECEPTION: LET THE CITIZEN BEWARE

Steven M. Greer MD
Director, The Disclosure Project http://www.disclosureproject.org


Imagine this: It is the summer of 2001, and someone presents you with a
script for a movie or book that tells how a diabolical terrorist plot
unfolds wherein both 110 story World Trade Center towers and part of the
Pentagon are destroyed by commercial jets hijacked and flown into those
structures.

Of course you would laugh, and if you were a movie mogul or book editor,
reject it out of hand as ridiculous and implausible, even for a
fictional novel or movie. After all, how could a commercial jet, being
tracked on radar after two jets had already hit the World Trade towers,
make it through our air defenses, into the most sensitive airspace in
the world, and in broad daylight on a crystal clear day, slam into the
Pentagon! And this in a country that spends over $ 1 billion a day to
defend itself! Absurd, illogical - nobody would swallow it!

Unfortunately, there are some of us who have seen these scripts - and of
far worse things to come - and we are not laughing.

One of the few silver linings to these recent tragedies it that maybe -
just maybe - people will take seriously, however far-fetched it may seem
at first, the prospect that a shadowy, para-governmental and
transnational entity exists that has kept UFOs secret - and is planning
a deception and tragedy that will dwarf the events of 9/11.

The testimony of hundreds of government, military and corporate insiders
has established this: That UFOs are real, that some are built by our
secret 'black' shadowy government projects and some are from
extraterrestrial civilizations, and that a group has kept this secret so
that the technology behind the UFO can be withheld - until the right
time. This technology can - and eventually will - replace the need for
oil, gas, coal, ionizing nuclear power and other centralized and highly
destructive energy systems.

This 5 trillion dollar industry - energy and transportation - is
currently highly centralized, metered and lucrative. It is the stuff
that runs the entire industrialized world. It is the mother of all
special interests. It is not about money as you and I think of it, but
about geo-political power - the very centralized power on which the
current order in the world runs. The world is kept in a state or
roiling wars, endless poverty for most of Earth's denizens and global
environmental ruin, just to prop up this evil world order.

As immense as that game is, there is a bigger one: Control through fear.
As Werner Von Braun related to Dr. Carol Rosin, his spokesperson for the
last 4 years of his life, a maniacal machine - the military, industrial,
intelligence, laboratory complex - would go from Cold War, to Rogue
Nations, to Global Terrorism (the stage we find ourselves at today) to
the ultimate trump card: A hoaxed threat from space.

To justify eventually spending trillions of dollars on space weapons,
the world would be deceived about a threat from outer space, thus
uniting the world in fear, in militarism and in war.

Since 1992 I have seen this script unveiled to me by at least a dozen
well-placed insiders. Of course, initially I laughed, thinking this just
too absurd and far-fetched. Dr. Rosin gave her testimony to the
Disclosure Project before 9/11. And yet others told me explicitly that
things that looked like UFOs but that are built and under the control of
deeply secretive 'black' projects, were being used to simulate - hoax -
ET-appearing events, including some abductions and cattle mutilations,
to sow the early seeds of cultural fear regarding life in outer space.
And that at some point after global terrorism, events would unfold that
would utilize the now-revealed Alien Reproduction Vehicles (ARVs, or
reversed-engineered UFOs made by humans by studying actual ET craft -
see the book 'Disclosure' by the same author) to hoax an attack on Earth.

Like the movie Independence Day, an attempt to unite the world through
militarism would unfold using ET as the new cosmic scapegoat (think Jews
during the Third Reich).

None of this is new to me or other insiders: The report from Iron
Mountain, NY, written in the 1960s, described the need to demonize life
in outer space so we could have a new enemy. An enemy off-planet that
could unite humans (in fear and war) and that would prove to be the
ultimate prop for the trillion dollar military-industrial complex that
conservative Republican President and five star general Eisenhower
warned us about in 1961 (no one was listening then, either...).

So here is the post-9/11 script - one that will be played out unless
enough people are informed and the plan can be foiled because they will
be unable to fool a sufficient number of citizens and leaders:

After a period of terrorism - a period during which the detonation of
nuclear devices will be threatened and possibly actuated, thus
justifying expanding the weaponization of space - an effort will ramp up
to present the public with information about a threat from outer space.
Not just asteroids hitting the Earth, but other threats. An
extraterrestrial threat.

Over the past 40 years, UFOlogy, as it is called, combined with a mighty
media machine, has increasingly demonized ETs via fearsome movies like
Independence Day, and pseudo-science that presents alien kidnappings and
abuse as a fact (in some circles) of modern life. That some humans have
had contact with ETs I have no doubt; that the real ET contact has been
subsumed in an ocean of hoaxed accounts I am certain.

That is, real ET events are seldom reported out to the public. The
Machine ensures that the hoaxed, frightening and intrinsically
xenophobic accounts are the ones seen and read by millions. This mental
conditioning to fear ET has been subtly reinforced for decades, in
preparation for future deceptions. Deceptions that will make 9/11 look
trivial.

I write this now because I have recently been contacted by several
highly placed media and intelligence sources that have made it clear to
me that hoaxed events and story-lines are imminent that will attempt to
further ramp up the fear machine regarding UFOs and ET s. After all, to
have an enemy, you must make the people hate and fear a person, a group
of people, or in this case an entire category of beings.

To be clear: the maniacal covert programs controlling UFO secrecy, ARVs
and related technologies - including those technologies that can
simulate ET events, ET abductions and the like - plan to hijack
Disclosure, spin it into the fire of fear, and roll out events that will
eventually present ETs as a new enemy. Do not be deceived.

This hogwash, already the stuff of countless books, videos, movies,
documentaries and the like, will attempt to glom onto the facts,
evidence and first-hand insider testimony of The Disclosure Project, and
on its coattails, deliver to the world the cosmic deception that falsely
portrays ETs as a threat from space. Do not be deceived.

By commingling fact with fiction, and by hoaxing UFO events that can
look terrifying, the Plan is to eventually create a new, sustainable,
off-planet enemy. And who will be the wiser?

You will. Because now you know that after 60 years, trillions of dollars
and the best scientific minds in the world pressed into action, a
secretive, shadowy group - a government within the government and at
once fully outside the government as we know it - has mastered the
technologies, the art of deception and the capability to launch an
attack on Earth, and make it look like ET s did it. In 1997, I brought
a man to Washington to brief members of Congress and others about this
plan. Our entire team at the time met this man. He had been present at
planning sessions when ARVs - things built by Lockheed, Northrup et al,
and housed in secretive locations around the world - would be used to
simulate an attack on certain assets, making leaders and citizens alike
believe that there was a threat from space, when there is none. (Before
he could testify, his handlers spirited him away to a secret location in
Virginia until the briefing was over...) Sound familiar? Werner von Braun
warned of such a hoax, as a pretext for putting war in space. And many
others have warned of the same.

Space based weapons are already in place - part of a secret parallel
space program that has been operating since the 1960s. ARVs are built
and ready to go (see the book 'Disclosure' and the chapter with the
testimony of Mark McCandlish et al). Space holographic deception
technologies are in place, tested and ready to fire. And the Big Media
is a pawn, now taking dictation from the right hand of the king.

I know this all sounds like science fiction. Absurd. Impossible. Just
like 9/11 would have sounded before 9/11. But the unthinkable happened
and may happen again, unless we are vigilant.

Combine all of this with the current atmosphere of fear and manipulation
and there is a real risk of suspending our collective judgment and our
constitution.

But know this: If there was a threat from outer space, we would have
known about it as soon as humans started exploding nuclear weapons and
going into space with manned travel. That we are still breathing the
free air of Earth, given the galacticly stupid and reckless actions of
an out of control, illegal, secret group, is abundant testimony to the
restraint and peaceful intentions of these visitors. The threat is
wholly human. And it is we who must address this threat, rein it in and
transform the current situation of war, destruction and secret
manipulation to one of true Disclosure and an era of sustained peace.

War in space, to replace war on Earth, is not evolution, but cosmic
madness. A world thus united in fear is worse than one divided by
ignorance. It is now time for the great leap into the future, a leap
that moves us out of fear and ignorance and into an unbroken era of
universal peace. Know that this is our destiny. And it will be ours just
as soon as we choose it.

Steven M. Greer MD
Director, The Disclosure Project
Albemarle County Virginia
June, 2002

The Disclosure Project
PO Box 2365
Charlottesville VA 22902 http://www.disclosureproject.org

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posted 06-13-2002 01:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Alpha-Theta   Visit Alpha-Theta's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

I'm sure I will get ridiculed by the totally ignorant for posting this, however, I don't care. We'll see who's ridiculing who in a decade, eh? Notice that much of this has already occured, and it is clear that other goals noted here are clearly in the works.
I really do wish this was a joke but I'm afraid it's not.

Also, about the cow mutilations, this is supposedly done by the military and EBE (extreterestrial biological entity, official 'military' term for aliens) to extract a potent type of adrenaline that is existent within the cows. The mutilation of the animal is necessary to extract this adrenaline. It is said to have reconstructive results on human tissues and also it has been said, by government personnel, that this type of adrenaline accelerates or develops psychic abilities of humans that have long been suppressed by our leaders.

Apparently the EBE's have uses for it too, as they are the ones who alledgedly made the military aware of chemical's potential. Notice cow mutilations have been a somewhat frequent and mysterious occurence for some time now.

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Thermit
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posted 06-13-2002 01:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Thermit   Email Thermit   Visit Thermit's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
adrenaline accelerates or develops psychic abilities of humans

I would think the opposite of adrenaline, as psychic abilities work best from a calm disposition.

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posted 06-13-2002 01:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Alpha-Theta   Visit Alpha-Theta's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't know for sure but my guess is that it acts like an uninhibitor. It's basically a chemical reaction that triggers seemingly dormant parts of your brain.

Yes it is true that a state of relaxation, also the level of consciousness known as 'alpha', is the initial stage at which psycho and neuro kinetic energies can be exploited.

cordrazine, cortropinex, formazine, and hyronalix

I'd be thrilled to hear your explanation for cattle mutilations....

Also, tell me your opinion on something Thermit, do you think human beings have always had nightmares and morbid dreams?


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Thermit
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posted 06-13-2002 01:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Thermit   Email Thermit   Visit Thermit's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Don't really know. Although it seems doubtful to me that beings capable of interstellar travel would need to carve up our cows for anything. The explaination given in the Greer document seems more plausable.

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posted 06-13-2002 01:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Alpha-Theta   Visit Alpha-Theta's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Very well, take it for what it's worth to you. I don't know for certain either, but I do think it is plausible. Obviously any lifeforms not on this planet may not have certain resources or entities that are available on EARTH.

You know those "black ops" craft you are referring to? It is also said that they utilize a certain substance in the crafts powerplant that can be found NOWHERE on earth. Again, not fact of course, but one of the more common theories among those who seem to be somewhat educated on the topic.

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PHANTOM911
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posted 06-13-2002 02:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PHANTOM911     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There it is again. That goofy dis-organizational chart or flow diagram that runs in circles around itself. Can someone tell me what that document is supposed to represent, who created it, and how it has obviously been leaked to the sheeple for even more hysteria. I could produce a much "nicer" graphic with my kid's PICO!
SHEESH!

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posted 06-13-2002 02:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dan Rockwell   Email Dan Rockwell     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have heard a number of theories concerning cattle mutilations and have knon for a while that the military has had an interest in cattle for quite a while. At one time, Connecticut had quite a few cattle farms. However, the majority of the cattle was bought up by the government for some reason and was quite surprised by this. Then in the early 1990's the topic of the government and their interest in cattle was brought up by Philip Imborgno who had been out looking for the origin of a formation of O-2 medium duty single engine aircraft that had been flying at night as if to make the whole Hudson Valley UFO wave look like a hoax and not only found out where they were operating out of, but also found something else.


Government Cover-up of a Classic UFO Case? By Philip J. Imbrogno

quote:
...During our investigation concerning this restricted area at Stewart we found out that the base now harbors several C-5A's the largest transport jet that our Air force has. We also found out from personnel at the base that these C-5A's landed on the restricted airfield several years ago and cargo was unloaded.

We also found out through a document search that the Air National Guard is no longer officially running the un-restricted area of the base. It is now under the command of the Navy and the Marines are running it and have been since 1973! This was strange since when we visited Stewart we saw Air force personnel there and even had a talk with a Master Sergeant.

We also found out that the Department of Agriculture was also using a section of the restricted area. After a great deal of getting the run around we found out that they are using the area for a holding place for animals. We found out that a great deal of cattle and other animals were flown in to this area.

We are still waiting for documents from the USDA explaining where the animals are coming from, why cattle and where are they going from there. Of course when we found out that cattle were being flown into this area the thought of cattle mutilations crossed our minds. What was the strange connection with the mutilations and the UFOS. What was the connection between the restricted area at Stewart, the CIA, the mystery planes and the USDA and the cattle...



http://www.think-aboutit.com/ufo/government_cover.htm

I'm glad that Phil posts a lot of material on the web or else I would of had to look it up in one of his books.

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Yes, Dan, as ironic as it may be, the underground laboratories used for relative research are built in an underground complex below the US department of Agriculture in Dulce, NM.


Phantom, I reckon you think your "cool" with your sarcasm. Perhaps you should actually read the figure, or research any one particular affiliation listed on it. Until the point that you are not controled by ignorance, I have no need for your petty antagonism.

phantom whined

quote:
Can someone tell me what that document is supposed to represent, who created it, and how it has obviously been leaked to the sheeple for even more hysteria. I could produce a much "nicer" graphic with my kid's PICO!
SHEESH!

It's intuitive what the document represents. Your future. You should be concerned Phantom as you seem to be the caliber of person who will simply not make it. (ROFL) Like I said, you can ridicule me all you want. I rest satisfied believing that it is I who will be ridiculing you as your swept away and enslaved or mutilated.

I don't know who created it. I received it from an educated friend. He told me that he swiped it from a drawer in the desk of a University Professor at UCLA. He is a Grad Student there and a teaching assistant.

It has obviously made you hysterical. Heh. However, I don't believe that's what it's intention is. I think it's sincere, and I have no reason not to based on the state of our civilization, historical and recent events. Not to mention the correlation between all the affiliations, to a T, when doing the research. Also, it's important to note that two of the main genetics research facilities listed on this figure(Sandia Labs, Lawrence Livermore Labs) are both, in FACT, official departments of UCLA.

As far as 'quality' is concerned, if you can make a much 'nicer' or 'resolute' document, then please do. Note there is no relevance in the quality of the document, but only the content. I don't think whoever scanned this document was too concerned with the superficial graphics of it, FYI.

To Dan and any other Readers: Please excuse my abrasive tone here but I grow tired of pipsqueeks who make a habit of contradicting me without the ability to back their claims of dissent.

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posted 06-13-2002 04:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lulu   Email Lulu   Visit Lulu's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey thanks for the Disclosure Project update Thermit!

quote:
Space holographic deception
technologies are in place, tested and ready to fire.

Wonder what holographic deception technologies he is referring to?

quote:
adrenaline accelerates or develops psychic abilities of humans

I would think the opposite of adrenaline, as psychic abilities work best from a calm disposition.


Isn't it serotonin that enhances pyschic ability?

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quote:
Isn't it serotonin that enhances pyschic ability?

I'm not sure LuLu. No official or educational institutions will even acknowledge that parapsychology is a reality (I believe this is suppressed information, not non-existent information). I think a lot of us 'know' parapscyhology is real, but unfortunately I am not aware of any 'physical' means of substantiating this.

There is a good possibility that cordrazine, cortropinex, formazine, and hyronalix could accelerate or increase the production of serotonin. As i said previously, it possibly un-inhibits such production.

Also, about the holographic imaging;
This is an ability some satellites possess (locust class) when used in unison with G.W.E.N. (ndgps) and the Ionispheric/interstellar facilities (HAARP HIPAS SETI EISCAT etc). All these systems can transmit a blanket signal which is received by every human being on the planet. It's a frequency transmitted electrical impulse that can implant hollographics and other fabricated stimuli into the human brain. It's also commonly referred to as "syntel" by the military. Syn= Synthetic Tel= Telepathy. I strongly recommend doing some research on these intrepid technologies. Then you can decide for yourself what to believe.

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OK A-t I'll bite.
"Phantom, I reckon you think your "cool" with your sarcasm. Perhaps you should actually read the figure,"
(I have, so what?)
"or research any one particular affiliation listed on it."
(I'm aware of nearly all of the entities on this document.)
Until the point that you are not control(l)ed by ignorance, I have no need for your petty antagonism.
(I have not directed what you've termed petty antagonism at you in any way. What's with you? I asked for more information regarding some crap that has no "authorship" or signature and has been circulated all over the web. I didn't spit in your oatmeal so I'll just assume you're having a bad day and needed to vent. Glad I could be of service to you.)

"phantom whined"
(Not sure how you determined this but just for the record I was muttering under my breath as I typed, so you couldn't have possibly heard me!)

Also, I was in no way ridiculing YOU, but the document is a different story. You have managed to answer my question as to where it came from (your source) and that's OK. What you didn't have to do is start the name-calling and feel threatened by my "sarcastic" phrasing of questions.

"I rest satisfied believing that it is I who will be ridiculing you as your swept away and enslaved or mutilated."
(This is just plain mean-spirited and you have now crossed the line with me. To say that you will will find satisfaction in ridiculing me ((Though I've not ridiculed YOU)) as I'm swept away and enslaved or mutilated is something you'll have to answer to a much higher authority than any mortal such as myself.
I'll tell you what's missing in that POS document and that's the large outline of the foot above all that crap with the letters G O D on it and it's about to stamp down on all those petty little human organizations seeking to control the world! Sheeple-dip!

"Please excuse my abrasive tone here but I grow tired of pipsqueeks who make a habit of contradicting me without the ability to back their claims of dissent."
(As to your "pipsqueeks" comment, you obviously have no physical knowledge of me and if so, pipsqueek would fall far short of an actual descriptive term for my stature. This is like me calling you a fat ugly bitch without the benefit of having seen you to be. Not too cool is it? And as to contradicting you, let me know where I've done that and I'll address it accordingly)
For now Alpha-Theta, I'll chalk this up to a chemmie venting and not a personal attack on me. However, if you wish to continue in this line of correspondence, I'll play along too.
PEACE A-T

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Phantom. Spare me your trivial perspective. I really am not concerned. All I know is that is the second time you have responded with an 'ad hominem' by:

(ridiculing the data without any substance or reason noted, not considering the relativity or correlation, attempting to make this an intellectual contest)

Believe what you want. I just suggest that you do your homework before responding to me in that manner. If you would like to keep it respectful, I won't have to resort to such brutal honesty.

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Wonder what holographic deception technologies he is referring to?

I don't know the technologies, but the application could be a staged second coming for the consumption of the masses.

Alpha, I agree with a lot of ideas you post. I enjoy the exchange of information and tried to understand the chart when it needed resizing on the other thread. Is there anyway that you could help by explaining the hierarchy and connections a little bit? I've only been awake a couple of years and Im still educating myself on many of these organizations. I am being completely sincere. I don't believe Phantom meant any harm either. It is a little confusing.

Hey Phantom, you expressed what I was thinking but I would have stopped short of critiquing the aesthetics.

Thermit, what is the Greer document? Outside of hearing the disclosure projects web cast and visiting their site a couple of times the whole EBE issue is alien to me. Sorry.

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Heya KooK,

No sweat. I do not have a problem with people expressing their opinions, but at the same time I have little tolerance for irreverance in any form.

The hierarchy of that figure is not fully known. Everything I have realized I have realized through doing research, and finding that not just the agencies noted where relative, but the order in which they are outlined is precise as well.

I realize it seems ludicrous, much like Greer said in his article above. It seemed ludicrous to me too at first, until i made the connection between the source of the document, and realized that this university was a big player in all of this. I began researching every little agency on that diagram and found repetitive and numerous undeniable relations and correlations.

Unfortunately, I am afraid it would take a book to elaborate completely on that figure. I just ask that anyone who wants to criticize it on a whim take the time to consider it, at least.

The figure should be interpreted right to left/top to bottom. It depicts the origin of specific programs, of which the chronology coincides with as well. In each column the vertical lines moving downward represent the movement of the timelines within those particular decades.

Dr. Greer's article elaborates on how our government has reverse engineered the technologies of EBEs, and how they intend to use those technologies to decieve the masses for their benefit.

The base referred to in dulce, this is the REAL DEAL. There are numerous underground levels, and enormous and elaborate underground tunnels leading all the way to the UCLA los alamos research labs. They store the TR-3Bs and other crafts in a hangar over a mile below the ground, almost directly under the USDA headquarters. Remember independence day. They didn't make the existence of the Dulce facility up, it's really there. I have no doubt about this. At this particular Dulce facility they primarliy do research in the fields of genetic engineering and various genetic expirements including EBEs, animals, and humans. There is also an entire level that is nothing but a huge freezer, a cryogenic storage facility for the various genetic mutations.

The deception Dr. Greer is referring to is the governments intention is to claim that these EBEs are unkown, and hostile, when in fact they have traded us technologies and have been working in collusion with our government to deceive us.

It is common for a conditioned mind in todays civilization to unconditionally reject all this information and think it's ridiculous. It's normal to think I'm nuts for typing all this, lol. I just hope that even 1 or 2 of you will decide to consider it and look deeper into it, for the more of us that are aware the better our chances of survival are, respectively.

(and OMG my fingers are spent; hypertyper)

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Thanks Alpha I can see I've got a long night ahead of me at google.

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1) WORLDWIDE ANIMAL MUTILATIONS - Recent Cases
Compiled by Linda Moulton Howe

Australia -
Two steers, each two years old, were found dead and mutilated on
a farm at Mutdapilly in Queensland, Australia. The report in Queensland
Country Life on July 28, 1994 said both Santa Gertrudis steers had their
tongues removed, jaw flesh stripped and one ear excised. In addition,
one of the steers also had its rectum cored out, a classic pattern in
the animal mutilation phenomenon which has persisted worldwide since
the 1960s.

England -
In August 1994, at Bodmin Moor near Launceston, England, a new-born
calf was found with a clean, bloodless cut in its throat that had severed
its windpipe, and the upper and lower hide of its nose and lips had been
"almost surgically removed," according to Malcolm Delaida, who reported
the case for the October 14, 1994 issue of Farmers Weekly. The color
photograph included with the story shows a perfectly clean calf lying
on its left side with only the hide-deep excision of tissue from its
jaws.

Germany -
On October 10, 1994, the German publication BILD headlined a story
"Horse-ripper: New Victims." For the past two years in Germany, England,
Norway, Sweden and Finand, hundreds of horses have been found alive with
excisions of hide taken from legs, chests, and head. Many horses have
survived the strange attacks, but in the recent round the animals have
been killed. According to BILD, "During the night, the cruel horse-ripper
sneaked into a pasture, shoved a lance, sharp as a knife, into the hearts
of three mares. Four other horses were injured." No details were given
about the four surviving horses' wounds. The pasture is near
Bahrenbostel-Holzh
ausen, a farm community in Diepholz, Germany.

Animal mutilations have often been associated with unidentified lights,
disks and beams in the sky, and with non-human creatures sighted near,
or even carrying, animals that are later found dead and mutilated, or
simply disappear.

===================================================Sometime ago, on a well known talk show, a retired military officer said cattle mutilation was conducted by the government for the purpose of examining soft tissue to monitor effects of nuclear blasts. Also that these tests were perfomed from a helocopter using laser instruments. No blood, footprints, tire tracks ever visible at scenes. One farmer related having found his bull upside down on a barbed wire fence. Will we ever know the truth, who knows???*****I'm glad for the tip about holograms and the supposed threat from outer space. Jeanie

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I've known for quite a while that things aren't as they seem Alpha and what you've been posting lately confirms it. I've known Imbrogno since 1993 and he really opened my eyes to a lot of it, but I've always had an interest in the whole UFO phenomenon since I was a child.

I used to buy a book a week on the subject and perhap one of the best investigators was Frank Edwards who pretty much documented the early days of the whole cover-up. In the beginning I as well as Phil thought of it as strictly a nuts and bolts phenomenon. However, in recent years we've come to the realization that it's a lot more than that.

Some people might not take it seriously about there being such things as TPTB, but if you step back and look at things from a distance, their existence becomes more and more evident and then you begin to see that we're all pawns in a game of controlled chaos. It's not quite like the Matrix but it's pretty close to that. - A lot of information is contained in books like "The Gods Of Eden" and "Behold a Pale Horse" which is helpful in understanding what is going on around us. - There does seem to be, however, from what I've noticed, two sides to the TPTB though it may only be a deception, with one side trying to free us and one side trying to enslave us and it is not clear which side is winning.

As to whether or not there is a real or fabricated threat from an Extraterrestrial Intelligence, I really can't be sure. It does seem that the military is developing more and more sophisticated weapons as if to fight a war with a more advanced enemy. - If there is indeed an Extraterrestrial Intelligence on it's way here, I doubt very much that it will be hostile and that as Greer said "the threat is wholly human."

BTW, Alpha, Phantom is one of the good guy's. He's done a lot of work to document this spray campaign and has posted some rather good video footage at his web site.



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I realize Phantom is a good guy. I lashed out at Phantom Because he/she automatically rejected what I posted, and in the same token an opinion of mine, without seemingly even considering it. I'm not saying that it's factual, but good grief, it is too much to simply be coincidental.

I just believe it is important to have a view of the 'big picture' so to speak. It's important that we all realize who our enemies are. I became frustrated because of what I perceived as a closed mind, in the form OF a good guy.

I can say that I am sure that 'syntel' is the technology Dr. Greer was referring to when saying "hollographics deliverable from space". Of course my own personal certainty of this is not expected to convince anyone else, but at least provide a testimony on my behalf.

I also agree with you in the aspect that, if for some dumb reason we should succumb to fear, it is in fact EBEs AND Humans we need be concerned with, not just humans. I would just like to say that FEAR is the most common and known suppressant and oppressant, one in the same. Nothing positive comes from 'synthetic' or man made fear. The only thing anyone should fear are certain aspects of nature, which are a mechanism of our survival instinct. (I.E. Loud Noise)

We have nothing to fear, but fear itself.
-JFK - disgracefully assassinated by 'TPTB'

(the Kennedy curse is a lose/lose for debunkers. They either have to support that it's a legitimate hex on the bloodline, or that it's esoteric technology; in referrence to the sufferings of seemingly all the Kennedys)

Of course, with the technology that TPTB have, it makes it nearly impossible for the average mind to distinguish between what is natural (REAL) and what is man made (fabricated). This is what it's all about. This is why it is SO important to look at the big picture, keep an open mind, and be as aware of your surroundings and yourself as much as you possibly can.



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posted 06-14-2002 08:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for msswv123     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
notes on cows:
their dna is almost identical to a humans
a blood substitute is being created from cow fluids
the cow has almost exactly the same gestation period as a human
Many americans consume cow dna on a daily basis..
the word vacca which is the base word for vaccine means cow
many vaccines are grown on bovine material
and I for one do not eat or drink cow....blessings ms

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posted 06-14-2002 08:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lulu   Email Lulu   Visit Lulu's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ironically, wasn't Whitley Strieber told by his "visitors" to lay off the sugar and consume only cow products?

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Hi lulu, I have that book I will see if I can find that reference...here is another interesting tidbit...also keep in mind that if adrenaline were the only thing they needed from cows I think it would be pretty easy...I don't think they would have to destroy the whole cow...here is another possibility....blessings T

> Friday, 18 June, 1999, 10:48 GMT 11:48 UK
Details of hybrid clone revealed


The embryo clone: A collection of stem cells produced using nuclear transfer

Details of the first hybrid human embryo clone have been released.
The watershed achievement in biotechnology actually happened last November, but more information was revealed on Thursday. It was achieved using a cell from a man's leg and a cow's egg.

The scientists who created the clone see it as a significant step forward in the search for a way of producing human stem cells.

These are "master" cells that can develop into any type of cell - skin, bone, blood, etc. They are believed to have the potential to provide perfect-match tissue for transplantation and the treatment of diseases such as Parkinson's.

Cloning questions

But this development will also see a significant heightening of the debate over the ethics of human cloning and, indeed, what it means to be a human.

Advanced Cell Technology (ACT), a leading, private biotechnology company, made the first human embryo clone and let it develop for twelve days before destroying it. In a normal pregnancy, an embryo implants into the womb wall after 14 days.

Dr Robert Lanza, ACT's director of tissue engineering, told the Daily Mail newspaper that the embryo could not be seen as a person before 14 days. The company said it had released news of the discovery to try to allay fears over the artificial conception of life.

It is believed that many more hybrid embryos have been created in the same way and destroyed since November.

No child clones

ACT said it had no intention of attempting to use the human cloning procedure to start a pregnancy - its aim was "therapeutic cloning" not "reproductive cloning", it said.

Lord Robert Winston, a British fertility expert, said the research was "totally ethical".

But opponents said the development of the technology made the eventual birth of a human clone inevitable. This, they said, would have profound implications for the nature of family relationships, the law and health.

The technology used to create the clone was very similar to that used to make Dolly the sheep clone. Over 200 embryos were used before Dolly finally appeared, showing that cloning is not a well-understood or easy-to-perform technique.

It is believed ACT used a cow's egg. This had its DNA removed and replaced with human DNA. The new cell was then chemically persuaded to behave like a new embryo and start dividing. This is how ACT hope to cultivate stem cells.

But Dr Maisam Mitalipova, a pioneer of this human-cow type of cloning, told the Daily Mail: "We didn't get good quality embryos and so they may not get good quality stem cells."

Another US company, Geron, is also reported to be attempting to make human embryo clones for therapeutic purposes.

It recently bought all the shares in Roslin Bio-Med, a company set up to commercialise the cloning expertise of the Roslin Institute, Scotland, where Dolly the sheep was created.

Geron has not publicly stated whether its attempts have been successful and it may be that ACT achieved the feat first. <<

lots of talk now about human-beast hybrids...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_371000/371378.stm

>>The first publicized case of animal-human hybrids took place in 1996 when Jose Cibelli, a scientist at the University of Massachusetts, took DNA from his white blood cells by swabbing the inside of his cheek. He then inserted the DNA sample into a hollowed-out cow egg. Cibelli's experiment came to an end after a week of growing the cell mass, he told scientists earlier this month at a panel meeting of the National Academy of Sciences in Washington, D.C. This raised the question of what might have emerged had the cell mass continued to develop.

"As far as we know, it would still look like a human being, but some of the characteristics of individual cells might be slightly different," said James Cross, a molecular biologist at the University of Calgary who attended the meeting. If such an embryo could develop, he said, the result would resemble a human being but carry bovine mitochondria, the energy-producing component of every cell. This is because the cow's egg shell, or cytoplasm, contains genetic materials known as mitochondrial DNA.<<

This suggests that we can create new human-animal species," said Jeremy Rifkin, biotechnology critic and president of the Washington-based Foundation on Economic Trends. Rifkin called the experiment "the most extraordinary single development in the history of biotechnology."
http://veederandld.20m.com/greports/82201.html


hmmmm..wonder what is really growing in those cows?????


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A-T,
I'll do my best to keep this short and simple.
Despite everything YOU read into my post it was simply this. I dissect;
"There it is again."
(Just stating this document has already been posted to this site.)
"That goofy dis-organizational chart or flow diagram that runs in circles around itself."
(My PERSONAL opinion of the document regarding it's appearance. Nothing more.)
"Can someone tell me what that document is supposed to represent, who created it, and how it has obviously been leaked to the sheeple for even more hysteria."
(Questions to "someone" as I am wanting to know this particular document's origin, etc. Of course we all know that nearly anyone with any intelligence and a computer can create "documents".)
"I could produce a much "nicer" graphic with my kid's PICO!"
(A true statement. It's part of what I do for a living. Graphically speaking that is.)
"SHEESH!"
(An expression of my PERSONAL feelings of the whole friggin' mess!)

I will state this once again and be done with it.
Nothing in my post was directed at YOU. This was simply an entry by me into a thread where I wanted to express myself just as you and everyone else here has the forum to do so. I did not write any of the things you have read into this simple statement I made.

To quote YOU:
"I'm sure I will get ridiculed by the totally ignorant for posting this, however, I don't care. We'll see who's ridiculing who in a decade, eh?"

You obviously do care and went out of your way to show it. The problem is A-T, you got the wrong guy this time. Sorry, but the postings speak for themselves.
If you have some real reason for such dislike of me, I don't believe I personally gave it to you.
A-T, I hope we were both just having a bad day yesterday, and we can continue to express ourselves here without things being taken personally. My post was directed at no one. When they are, it's very obvious. Hope today's a better day for all. PEACE

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posted 06-14-2002 12:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dan Rockwell   Email Dan Rockwell     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's actually interesting that Greer mentioned "Space holographic deception
technologies" because quite a few of the witnesses who observed the Hudson Valley UFO's stated that they did not accellerate off at a high rate of speed but rather folded up upon themselves and became a white line that compressed down into a dot that faded out kind of like the picture on those old television sets when you turned them off.

Even stranger, though the UFO's had been observed by quite a few police officer that carried radar equipment that they could of pointed at them, the thought of doing it didn't even cross their minds until they were gone. Also, a few witnesses stated that when they observed the ships from a distance that, they thought to themselves that they wished that they could get a closer look at them. to their surprise, the ships would then start moving in their direction and get so close that they became frightened. As soon as this happened, the ships would either stop moving toward them or immediately reverse their direction. It was almost as if the witness was subconsciously affecting the behavior of the craft which was really puzzling to both me and Imbrogno.

As far as Streiber goes, Imbrogno was rather suspicious of him because before Strieber became famoous, he often attended quite a few of Phil's lectures as did a feeew members of the Air Force. For a long time, Phil, who was a "nuts and bolts" investigator thought that Strieber was copying a lot of his research and adding a lot of B.S. to it. However, as Phil became more and more involved with his research, there were quite a few witnesses who were describing a lot of things that Streiber had wrote in his books and it seemed like there was a new aspect of the phenomenon that was developing. It was no longer just people seeing an object in the sky or being abducted, but it began to take on the aspect of a paranormal, interdimensional experience.

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posted 06-14-2002 04:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Alpha-Theta   Visit Alpha-Theta's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
mssvw123 said:

quote:
notes on cows:
their dna is almost identical to a humans
a blood substitute is being created from cow fluids
the cow has almost exactly the same gestation period as a human
Many americans consume cow dna on a daily basis..
the word vacca which is the base word for vaccine means cow
many vaccines are grown on bovine material
and I for one do not eat or drink cow....blessings ms

Just curious when the last time you dissected a cow was? You seem to be somewhat of a self proclaimed expert.

Perhaps you could tell me exactly how and where they get cordrazine, cortropinex, formazine, and hyronalix from cows, but not humans?

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