posted 07-27-2002 05:27 AM               

I'd like to know if anyone else is hearing this low frequency sonic type 'boom' and what areas you live in.

I'm wondering if this sound is coming from the Big Boys playing with HAARP. Could this be part of our new communications network like G.W.E.N or HIPAS? Could it be Scalar Weaponry, 'booms' with flashes of light? If there are military folks at this board which I'm sure there are, would you at least explain this to us? People are hearing it from West Seattle to Tacoma. Whatever the hell it is, folks around here have a real bad feeling about it. It's very unsettling and it makes the animals nervous.

posted 07-27-2002 01:08 PM            

I am certain that the booms are either

1. a result of scalar activity initiated by HIPAS (poker flats, AK).

2. The transduction of electric energy into sound energy (SONAR) in coordination with submarine comm projects.

posted 07-27-2002 04:11 PM               

If it's Scalar activity coming from ALASKA why couldn't it also be Scalar EM waves coming from Russia? I've read theories by Tom Bearden that the Soviets have had this technology for 30 years. There are theories that the Soviets are even controlling the weather with this technology and we're trying to counteract it.

posted 07-27-2002 04:35 PM            

Once an airplane reaches the speed of sound, a similar boom is heard, known as a sonic boom. This same boom also occurs when these 'phased arrays' send an electromagnetic wave, which is then transmitted into the ionisphere where it is transduced into sound energy. This sonic energy then bounces off of the ionsiphere directly to the coordinates of the submarine (done by 'beam steering' (see ONR research)) or it will bounce off and become a blanket signal which will 'sound' deep within the ocean and possibly detect other submarines. Again, due to the transformation into sound energy there is a resulting sonic boom.

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Two weeks ago it was so acute that my ears pressurized and felt as if my head was being turned inside out. Like a deep water dive

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based on this statement I would say it's most likely SONAR.

Quoted from the HIPAS homepage: (ROFL)

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Current Projects at HIPAS:

ELF/VLF (Extremely Low and Very Low Frequency) electromagnetic (EM) generation by the absorption of Radio Frequency (RF) power in the arctic ionosphere including ion cyclotron excitation.

LIDAR active NA layer flourescence and monitoring modified by RF ionosphere heating as new communication scheme.

Laser breakdown studies - New project

Plasma Torch.

Incoherent Scatter Radar - New project using 88 ft. diameter antenna at NOAA Gilmore Creek site 34 km SW of HIPAS as the recieving antenna with transmitter at HIPAS.

Remote Sensing.

Radio Frequency Ionospheric Heater.

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They are not at all timid about the capabilites of this huge (40 acre) array.

U/T, you are exactly right about Russia. Not only did they dominate the space programs, they also had scalar weaponry long before any other nation or state. There have been official reports stating that Russian Systems had been transmitting 'woodpecker' signals at the US, with the intent to alter our moods and disrupt our economy. It was said to be effective, to some extent (the great depression??).

A recent article by the sherminator claims that the US built Russia in a long scheme of social engineering. I do have respect for the sherminator but I fear he has gravely mistaken in his proposition that the bush family has been in control of this plot. In fact, I believe it to be the Russians in control of the bush family. Accordingly I believe it is more logical that the US was conceived by Russia through esoteric technologies, black magic bookcookin', and insidious social engineering. I am not sure if current operations are being initiated to counter Russian exploitations. It is definitely a possibility.

As far as the Navy projects, I read some really good in depth scientific articles about these SONAR projects, but I can't remember where. Try running a search on google with keywords like "SONAR+HAARP or PHASED ARRAY+ONR".

Also U/T, I was just curious if you ever contacted U of Washington and if you got a response?

posted 07-27-2002 05:42 PM               

So..if I'm understanding you correctly this area must be abuz with Top Secret projects.
1. Submarine communications to account for the sonar 'boom'.
2. Electomagnetic scalar waves at night to account for the flashes of light in the sky.
3.Chemtrailing 24/7 complete with radial smiley faces to account for....? Possibly making the ionosphere more accoustical for the signals to bounce off of?

As far as the U.W goes, I've only been able to leave messages on voicemail so far. I think we're going to need an aircraft with a pressurized cabin to fly 30,000 ft. Any takers? (I'm quite serious)

posted 07-27-2002 08:12 PM               

Environmentalists cite deaths of whales during past tests

ASSOCIATED PRESS

WASHINGTON, July 16 — The Bush administration is letting the Navy use a powerful low-frequency sonar that can detect enemy submarines but which environmentalists fear will harm whales, dolphins and other marine mammals sensitive to noise. The approval comes with some restrictions but activists weren’t satisfied.

THE NAVY says the $300 million system, intended to sweep 80 percent of the world’s oceans, is important to national security because other nations such as Russia, Germany and China are developing super-quiet submarines to avoid traditional detection.

The Commerce Department’s National Marine Fisheries Service granted the Navy a five-year exemption from the Marine Mammal Protection Act, allowing what opponents maintain will be “harassment” of marine mammals with the intense low-frequency sonar.

The Navy, which plans to use the new sonar on two warships, will be required to visually monitor for marine mammals and sea turtles and to turn off the sonar whenever any such creatures are detected in the area. The original plans called for four ships but were scaled back due to budget constraints.

“Marine mammals are unlikely to be injured by the sonar activities and ... the sonar will have no more than a negligible impact on marine mammal species and stocks,” agency officials said in a statement Monday.

The exemption for the Surveillance Towed Array Sensor System, or Surtass LFA, is due to be reviewed on an annual basis.

IMPACT DEBATED

Whales are particularly susceptible to sonar interference because they rely on sound for communication, feeding, mating and migration. According to the Navy, each of the sonar’s 18 speakers transmits signals as loud as 215 decibels, equivalent underwater to standing next to a twin-engine F-15 fighter jet at takeoff.

Environmentalists say, however, that with the convergence of sound waves from each of the speakers, the intense effects of the system would reach farther, as if the signals were 235 decibels.

“The Bush administration has issued a blank check for the global use of this system,” said Michael Jasny, a senior policy analyst for the Natural Resources Defense Council. “Today’s decision is far too broad to provide any meaningful protection for whales, dolphins and other marine life.”

Fisheries officials outlined protective measures calling for Navy personnel to visually scan for marine mammals and sea turtles and to shut down the sonar whenever they are detected. Detection is expected to be almost 100 percent effective from a distance of 1.1 nautical mile away.

The Navy says it will restrict the sonar’s routine use to at least 12 nautical miles away from coastline and outside biologically important areas.

PAST BEACHINGS

The intense low-frequency sonar can travel several hundred miles and the transmissions are on the same frequency used for communication by many large whales, including humpbacks.

Some biologists believe whales are irritated by sounds louder than 110 decibels and that a whale’s eardrums could explode at 180 decibels.

Environmentalists’ fears are partly based on the Navy’s deployment of a powerful mid-range sonar in March 2000 during a submarine detection exercise in the deep water canyons of the Bahamas.

At least 16 whales and two dolphins beached themselves on the islands of Abaco, Grand Bahama and North Eleuthera within hours. Eight whales died. Scientists found hemorrhaging around the brain and ear bones, injuries consistent with exposure to loud sounds.

And in 1996 12 Cuvier beaked whales beached themselves in Greece during NATO exercises using the low-frequency sonar. But the whales decomposed before scientists could investigate.

posted 07-28-2002 02:23 AM               

"The Navy says it will restrict the sonar’s routine use to at least 12 nautical miles away from coastline and outside biologically important areas."

Well Dan, if this is what's causing that awful noise I'm calling the Fisheries Department on Monday. When this sound occurs I look out over the water with my binoculars and there's not a ship to be seen. That's what's been so creepy about it, wondering where it's coming from.

We have had our share of Orcas beaching themselves as well as the gray whales. Come to think of it there have been a few seals and sea lions lately too.

Whatever is making this sound, the Navy, HIPAS, Scalar EM waves...the Fisheries Department is probably a good place to start phoning. If it's causing human ears to pressurize like this I cannot even imagine what it's doing to this marine sensitive area. There are only 88 Orca whales that return each year to Puget Sound. And each year we lose a few more from mysterious unknowns. Maybe this low frequency sonar is the culprit.

Thanks Dan, this was a great find. Like I said previously about the military personnel on this board, would you at least explain this one? Or is this our imagination also?

posted 07-28-2002 03:42 AM            

'Behold A Pale Horse' is interesting, although it's not exclusively about any one thing, but kind of an overview of reality as we perceive it.

'Angels Don't Play This HAARP' is the book to read if you really want to know what's going on with these systems.
Yes, it also covers HIPAS, and GWEN

It's really a wide target area with this SONAR, apparently. When the signal bounces off of the ionisphere, according to this article, it becomes a giant wavelength of sound energy which penetrates deep within the ocean to detect underwater submarines over large-scale areas. It definitely would be a condition that would be consistent with a sonic boom. It's not just modulation, it's the transduction of any extremely dense and focused beam of EM energy. One also might consider the implications of Bernard Eastlund's patent, how ion cyclotron excitation leads to the generation of plasma and other charged particles in the ionisphere, that would not be occuring in such intensity naturally.

Although this article doesn't mention it, there will also be impact upon human life. It is logical to say that any one living within radius of this transmission, most likely coastal, will experience very similar effects as mentioned by U/T. If this signal is strong enough to penetrate the depths of the ocean, Im sure it will have it's own vibratory effects on all biological entities within proximity. Well at least any that rely on equilibrium.

posted 07-28-2002 04:44 AM            

In all honesty I can't say wether or not it could cause an earthquake. I believe it's possible and definitely a valid concern, in accordance with the following statement. What I feel needs to be considered are the consequences of altering the earths ecosystems, and in this case OUR PROTECTIVE MAGNETIC SHIELD, which are not known and could not possibly be calculated, not even by the likes of all the smartest minds ever known. They're playing with their plasma torch, in reality they are only playing with fire, and it could potentially have catastrophic effects on us or our children in which we would be the ones to 'get burnt'. It's ironic that that phrase could very well apply literally.

posted 07-28-2002 05:30 AM            

NOTICE TO DEBUNKER WANNA BES:

posted 07-28-2002 05:49 AM            

I once got a $257.00 noise ordinance fine for having my radio too loud in my vehicle. Considering this, The Government owes the people (and whales) of this Earth $5,675,543,002.00 .

posted 07-29-2002 12:36 AM               

Now I'm begining to wonder what could make hundreds of "perfectly healthy" giant squid to wash up on a California beach.

Giant Squid Washing Up On Calif. Beaches

El Niño May Be To Blame

Posted: 3:21 p.m. EDT July 25, 2002
Updated: 3:36 p.m. EDT July 25, 2002

SAN DIEGO -- Hundreds of giant squid are washing up on the beaches of San Diego's upscale La Jolla Coves, possibly as a result of warm El Niño weather patterns, according to local scientists.

he squid may be getting stuck in a warm water current and pushed onto San Diego shores, KGTV-TV reported.

The beachings are creating a big problem for swimmers and a big stink for residents. The area is popular with divers and snorkelers, but officials are concerned that the squids' ink may be unhealthy.

The jumbo flying squid, known by their scientific name Dosidicus gigas, normally nestle in the eastern Pacific Ocean. Their natural habitat ranges from Oregon to Peru.

The beach strandings puzzle Annette Henry, a state marine biologist. "I don't know why they are dying," she said. "They seem to be perfectly healthy squid."

Scientists noticed another strange stranding in May when tiny red crabs that looked like miniature lobsters covered San Diego's Ocean Beach area.

http://www.local6.com/sh/news/stories/nat-news-157763120020725-140728.html

Jeanie also mentioned it on this thread which really got me thinking about it.

http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/ubb/Forum6/HTML/000741.html

posted 07-29-2002 02:12 PM               

Mon Jul 29,12:55 PM ET

DENNIS, Mass. (AP) - Rescuers rushed to the aid of dozens of pilot whales that stranded themselves Monday on Chapin Beach in this Cape Cod community.

More than 50 of the small whales were stranded in the shallow water, according to Sallie Riggs of the Cape Cod Stranding Network.

Rescuers poured water over the whales and draped them in wet towels to keep them moist.

Officials at the New England Aquarium and the Center for Coastal Studies also were at the scene to help. High tide was due around 3 p.m. and was expected to help the rescue efforts.

Mass strandings of pilot whales are not unusual since they are highly sociable animals that travel and feed in groups and frequent near-coastal areas.

In July 2000, 10 pilot whales were stranded in shallow water off Nantucket, an island off Cape Cod. They died despite the efforts of volunteers and whale experts. On Christmas Eve 1991, 31 pilot whales became stranded off Cape Cod and died.

Scientists said those whales apparently were following krill, tiny crustaceans that are a dietary staple, when they became trapped in the shallows.
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20020729/ap_on_re_us/stranded_whales_1

posted 07-29-2002 02:20 PM            

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Scientists said those whales apparently were following krill, tiny crustaceans that are a dietary staple, when they became trapped in the shallows.

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posted 07-30-2002 03:58 AM               

THE MILLENIUM CHALLENGE 2002
Military Experiments in Progress
July 24 thru August 15

Mock battle in SoCal and Nevada
NATO and FEMA

By SETH HETTENA Associated Press Writer
Published 3:10 p.m. PDT Thursday, July 18, 2002
SAN DIEGO (AP) - Preparations are underway in Southern California and Nevada for the largest military experiment in U.S. history.

The Millennium Challenge 2002, which begins next week, was mandated by Congress to help U.S. forces prepare for future wars.About 13,500 troops from the Army, Navy, Air Force and Marines will use the latest in military hardware in a simulation of what planners believe the battlefield could look like in five years.

Over three weeks, troops will play out a scenario that echoes real-world events involving simulated weapons of mass destruction, urban warfare, the United Nations and humanitarian relief (FEMA).The Joint Forces Command, operating in Suffolk, Va., is coordinating the experiments from July 24 through Aug. 15 off the coast of San Diego and at bases in Southern California and Nevada. Top military brass, including the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and the chief of Naval operations, will attend.

7/16/02*NAVY GETS GO AHEAD FOR
GLOBAL USE OF SONAR

7/16/02*NAVY IS GRANTED 5YR EXEMPTION
FROM MARINE MAMMAL PROTECTION ACT

7/24/02*MILLENIUM CHALLENGE 2002 BEGINS

7/25/02*SAN DIEGO CA.
SUBMARINE NAVAL BASE
HUNDREDS of SQUID WASH ASHORE

7/27/02*PERTH, WEST AUSTRALIA
60 WHALES BEACH ON SUNSET COAST

7/29/02*NEWPORT RHODE ISLAND
SUBMARINE NAVAL BASE
DOZENS OF WHALES WASH ASHORE IN MASSACHUSETTES