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Topic: How hot will it get??All time temperatre records now set dailly | Topic page views:
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BOB B
Senior Member
LINDEN ,TEXAS,CASS
307 posts, Jan 2002
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posted 04-17-2002 01:35 AM
   
...With all the talk of drought in the East and excessive rainfall in other areas, we are missing something very obvious.The precipitation patterns have changed in response to the temperature rise, which has obviously been extreme.Already, in Michigan, Maine and other extreme northern localites are experiencing 90 degree plus temperatures, breaking records daily.You all know by now by my constant raving on the subject that the Sun is producing 10-20 percent more energy than normal, if all types of energy are counted,such as infared .radio wavelenghts microwaves and gamma radiation.Point is, of course its getting hot, and if the Sun doesnt return to a normal output of energy soon, this summer will not only be hot, it may be catastophic.It is hard to predict how hot it will get, all I can say is the average high temperatures over the globe the last 5 months are around 20 degrees higher than nominal,and if this pattern holds true for summer, temperatures could theoretically reach 125-130 degrees in parts of the south, which normally post temperatures of 100-105 degrees yearly.If temperatures of 130 degrees are reached, massive die offs of many species may occur, including our own------------------
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Catnip57
Senior Member
Central Washington
408 posts, Apr 2001
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posted 04-17-2002 11:53 PM
Bob B... there may be new people here who have missed your first presentation and information about the sun... perhaps you could list those links here again for quick access.
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rainheart
Senior Member
174 posts, Oct 2001
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posted 04-18-2002 03:52 PM
Bob, our climate changes that we are witnessing fit perfectly with the argument of human caused global warming.As the planet has been warming there are several feedback loops being initiated.
One being the amount of water vapour in the atmosphere. As i understand it, the planet warms as a result of increased loading of greenhouse gases into our atmosphere. This causes more water to evaporate into the atmosphere, (which is also a greenhouse gas ), therby warming the planet further. And around it goes. There are a number of different feedback loops I won't go in to detail on now. Combined with a deteriorating ozone layer as a (supposed) result of CFC's and other ozone destroying chems, the situation is grim. I've been noticing increased heat from the sun for several years. Always thought it was because of a thinning ozone, and maybe it is. But i'm intrigued about the sun heating up theory. Just this winter I watched snow and ice melt that was exposed to the sun when air temps. were -15 degrees celcius (F - ?) For years I wanted to believe our atmospheric problems were just run of the mill pollution, and when i first started realizing the atmosphere was getting full I chalked it up to just that. The perma haze skies from the west coast to the Arctic ocean, to europe (and around the world I suspect). Then I came on to the chem trail issue. Now i've been reading a book titled "Planet earth - The latest weapon of war' Rosalie Bertell 2001, and suspect we may have been mislead as too the real cause of our sad state of affairs. It is no wonder that delegates to the United Nations Conference (s) on Climate Change have officially removed 'weather modification' from any talks. Citing it falls under defense and military concerns. Anyway, i'm rambling
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BOB B
Senior Member
LINDEN ,TEXAS,CASS
307 posts, Jan 2002
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posted 04-18-2002 09:26 PM
the catalytic converter was the auto industries holy grail of pollution reduction, unfortunately, the "harmless" by-products, water and co2,are the cause of increased co2 concentrations..You said feedback loops...ok, heres one, think increased thermal input...this is the problem, the main warming is not a result of human activity, although I have no doubt humans have added to our problems.Hard to face our warm,once yellow friend could turn on us, but it did.Increased heat energy with less escaping, its a feedback, it evaporates more water into the atomosphere which traps more heat and evaporates more water ...Im not saying youre wrong, youre not totally, but your conclusion that global warming is strictly the result of human activity is erroneous and Im wondering how your missing the real deal....I believe it is to unreal of a problem for most people to take in, so they dont.........>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.maj.com/sun/noaa.html
[Edited 1 times, lastly by BOB B on 04-18-2002]
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The Interloper
New Member
Planet Earth(for now)
10 posts, Apr 2002
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posted 04-29-2002 02:17 AM
Fear and denial are strong motivational factors, but denial at this point is rediculous.The Sun is different now
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