posted 01-02-2003 10:06 PM            

ROLLING ON THE FLOOR LAUGHING MY ASS OFF

Pacer, I just wanted you to know that this is one American who will back you up to the end when someone disrespects the uniforms of the military services or trys to take our freedom.

posted 01-02-2003 10:53 PM            

Quote:
"I'm sorry for the cuss words as I have had a few beers this evening and I get fired up easy over dumb stuff I see on the net like this."

posted 01-03-2003 02:17 AM               

Others are just describing what they see. That's a good position, and it's not really being addressed by Pacer, who is good at playing the technical expert but is not answering the questions most people here are raising.

I am quite convinced that a big geopolitical trap is being prepared for the United States, that people like GW Bush are not players and are serving agendas they themselves do not understand.

The chemtrails are a reality. I want an explanation from the Greek government, since I live in Greece, what purpose they are serving. Americans should be demanding the same thing from their own government.

Pacer's patriotic/technical whiz-kid discourse serves merely to divert you from that reality. He may be here as a paid agent and he may be sincere. In either case what he writes is a diversion.

posted 01-03-2003 02:19 AM               

Others are just describing what they see. That's a good position, and it's not really being addressed by Pacer, who is good at playing the technical expert but is not answering the questions most people here are raising.

I am quite convinced that a big geopolitical trap is being prepared for the United States, that people like GW Bush are not players and are serving agendas they themselves do not understand.

The chemtrails are a reality. I want an explanation from the Greek government, since I live in Greece, what purpose they are serving. Americans should be demanding the same thing from their own government.

Pacer's patriotic/technical whiz-kid discourse serves merely to divert you from that reality. He may be here as a paid agent and he may be sincere. In either case what he writes is a diversion.

posted 01-03-2003 09:22 AM            

1) The Inquisition was for god and country. If you were an herbalist, mushroom eater, witch, or warlock, you were burned at the stake.

2) Hitler was always quoting the bible and was supported by the catholic church.

3) Joe McCarthy was always quoting the bible and "doing god's work".

4) George Bush's Sr. and Jr. both think they are here to rid the world of "evil" and are bored-agains.

5) Bin Laden talks of his god being supreme being.

6) Jim Jones was a religious fanatic

7) Son of Sam was a religious fanatic.

8) The Crusades was a religious war.

9) Bruno, Galileo, Socrates, and Leary were killed or persecuted by religious fanatics.

10) Einstein was hounded in America by a religious fanatic and pervert, J. Edgar Hoover.

11) Stalin killed religious people because he wanted the state to be supreme. Man, we have almost a deadly combination of communism and fundamentalism here, right now.

Male Sky God religions (Islam, Hebrew, Christianity) are always at war with everyone. They use the military to fight what they perceive to be "enemies" of their own personal god. We are in the middle of another sky-god war, with BushLaden Productions perpetrating the Islam vs Christian myth. So your fighting for "God and Country" quote is a joke. If people would only see that their own concept of a "god" or "goddess" is culturally manufactured, we'd have less wars.

Pacer, I appreciate your candidness in your personal life. I don't agree with 90% of what you say, but keep posting so we can all engage in healthy debate.

posted 01-03-2003 10:27 AM            

THEY made up "Communism," THEY made up "socialism"

They just put a different label on it. It's all command and control. There is no difference really between the 2 party system.It's corrupt.

Yep, you guys nailed it on the head. It's a DIVERSION....They WAN'T us to argue and stay divided. Ruffle-MAO is a classic example of everything that is wrong with the consciousness of every THINKING American. He claims WE are all nuts..yet HE refuses to see all of the corruption and un-constitutional legislation being passed among everything else discussed here. It's the COWARDS way out to look the other way.

posted 01-03-2003 11:41 AM            

NORTHWOODS DOCUMENT.

BETTER YET........ SEE for yourself......
http://www.gulfwarvets.com/candace.htm

posted 01-03-2003 05:31 PM            

I hate to admit it... but I only go to see a doctor when I know there's really something wrong with me and I'm sure there are enough citizens in this country that do the same. Especially those that don't have any medical insurance.

Mslpink... you mentioned that some of the patients you've seen in the hospitals have shown up with rashes... does anyone have any idea or theories even about what's causing those rashes? Several months back there were lots of stories about kids comming down with rashes at school. Have you seen a lot of school aged kids with rashes in your area?

posted 01-03-2003 11:41 PM            

Yeah, Military medical care is the best there is...LOL!!!!!

I remember going to sick call once having a severe sore throat and I saw a Navy doctor who said I had "nothing wrong with me". 2 months later I got so sick I went out and paid a civilian physician to look at me and he diagnosed me with a severe streptlococci infection in my throat while I had a 103 degree fever and could barely swallow.

YEAH...They are REALLY looking out for us troops and veterans.

I won't even get into my adverse reactions to a certain TYPHOID vaccination I recieved.

posted 01-04-2003 12:39 AM               

The reference to being an "idiot nurse" was used in the context of an example, I wasn't actually calling you one.

Again, as I've done multiple times in my time on this message board, I'll lay down my reasons for NOT believing in chemtrails:

1. I fly all across the US, and to several foreign countries all the time. I have flown to most of the military installations in the US. I have never seen an unusual contrail. I have flown through contrails and not been sick. I have never seen any mysterious "NSA sprayplanes". I have never heard any unusual radio traffic, even on the military frequencies. I have never received unusual routing, or had my planned route changed drastically, ever.

2. Nearly every photo I've ever seen on any chemtrail website shows something that I see every day in my capacity as a pilot. Rather than having a collection of photos, it is the opinion of this pilot that some folks are trying to jump to conclusions about a subject that they know little about and have zero practical experience with.

Mslpink, you should understand being a nurse. I'm sure you've seen your fair share of people who think you don't know what you're talking about, because they read in XYZ magazine or book about their condition, and what you are telling them contrasts with what they've read. 9 times out of 10, it's not because the info they read was necessarily wrong, it's because they don't have the depth of experience to understand the information or place the information in proper context.

That's why you don't understand my position about getting sick while flying through contrails. Our Learjets don't have filters small enough to filter out particulates. They filter out larger particles such as pieces of dust and sand, but they aren't capable of filtering out biologicals or aerosols.

How do I know this? Because we have a very small unit...my squadron operates four airplanes, and in my spare time I often go visit the civilian maintenance guys. I've seen our airplanes gutted, and they are more than happy to show you the various components.

Unlike people who drive cars, pilots are required to have an in-depth knowledge of their airplane and associated systems. The problem is, non-pilots don't understand this concept. People are prone to equate things with situations they are familiar with.

Like my wife, most other people associate flying an airplane with driving a car or a truck. Most people who drive couldn't point out the parts of their engine, and a large number don't even know what it looks like under the hood.

However, pilots aren't like that. I could sit down and draw a detailed picture of any major system on our airplane. I could even tell you at what psi the fuel line pressure switch sends a signal to the warning light control box to turn on the FUEL PRESS LO light for the respective engine. But most people don't know that pilots are *THAT* familiar with their aircraft.

posted 01-04-2003 04:08 PM            

I think their good health has more to do with the fact that they are of an age where their immune systems are more stable than young children or the elderly or those already immune deficient.

posted 01-04-2003 11:51 PM               

However, he said he did agree with me on the subjected of depleted uranium in the battlefield. He presented this as a marvellous concession, that he was prepared to acknowledge that the use of "weapons" that kill soldiers on one's own side is something a soldier might reasonably objecct to.

Of course his opposition would never take any more militant form than simply agreeing with something a "Leftie" tells him. There is a touching faith among these military types that if some really important social issue comes up, "Lefties" can be relied on to do the footwork of political organizing.
Even when it is a case of something that is threatening military people much more directly than it is threatening "Lefties".

These are just musings prompted by Mech's posting. I note that Pacer has decided the best way of dealing with me is to ignore me.

posted 01-06-2003 01:12 AM            

Mech and Halva... I was going to ask you if you could list some stories to verify some of the comments you made connerning the Gulf War Syndrome and Depleted Uranium issues but I found this story today that says it like it is. Not a pretty picture. I've included a couple of paragraphs that I found quite revealing. What a nightmare.
http://www.rense.com/general33/terr.htm

The Terrible, Tragic Toll
Of Depleted Uranium

posted 01-10-2003 08:55 PM            

MLS Pink: If having 3 or 4 beers on my day off constitutes being an alcoholic then I guess I'm really a bad boy ( OOOOH spank me mummy). I don't drink and go to work, ass. I take my job and the care of patients in surgery very seriously. It sounds just like some dumbass ER nurse to think that someone who has a few beers on their day off is an alcoholic. I'm not going to comment on what I think of ER nurses of YOUR caliber.

Mech: To the master of cop outs. I have read almost all your posts here and EVERY one of them has bashed or defiled the person who does not see this lunacy your way. Don't call me a spammer when your one yourself. You have the most dumbassed comments and cop outs for every subject, which obviously shows you know absolutely NOTHING about what your talking about.