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Billy Joe McAllister
Muppets are people too


249 posts, Jan 2003

posted 01-22-2003 06:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Billy Joe McAllister     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
>>>>I guess not, BILLIE GOAT says no, and he's a true American, and a harbinger of TRUTH, and we're not.<<<<<<

I'm glad you've seen the light, Mech.

Here's hoping you soon leave this country that you hate so much...and don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out....

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swamp gas
Bird Man of Hudson County


Jersey City, NJ
779 posts, May 2002

posted 01-22-2003 08:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for swamp gas     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry Guys,
Fascists are supporting the war effort, and you are supporting it, to line the pockets of the Globalist Elite.

Some Organizations and people opposed to war. As you can see, they are all flaming conservatives or libertarians..LOL..........

CATO Institute

Patrick Buchanan

William Safire

The War Party

TomPaine.com

Ron Paul

Jack Kemp

Dick Armey

Chuck Hagel

Pat Roberts

Center for the National Security Interest

Robert Novak

Llewellan Rockwell

Doug Bandow

Col. David Hackworth

Ludwig Von Mises Institute

"It is the responsibility of the patriot to protect his country from its government."
--Thomas Paine

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Billy Joe McAllister
Muppets are people too


249 posts, Jan 2003

posted 01-22-2003 11:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Billy Joe McAllister     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nobody wants war Gas, especially the president. If we don't go to war however, Sadam will control all the oil in the Middle East through Nuclear blackmail capability, have violated all UN resolutions, most likely use a nuke on Israel at some point, most likely use a third party terrorist group to plant a nuke in a US city and/or set it off.

If you honestly consider these facts, then you will realize it's foolish to think that this war serves the global elite. It serves mankind in general, and preservation of human life by eliminating Sadam. Are you really so much of a fool that you can't see that?

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swamp gas
Bird Man of Hudson County


Jersey City, NJ
779 posts, May 2002

posted 01-22-2003 11:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for swamp gas     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
BJ,
Why do you always call people names when they don't agree? Just state your opinion and be done with it.


Israel is a terrorist state that has broken more UN resolutions than Iraq. Sharon is a war criminal. The Zionists in the US and Israel have a lot of control, even influencing US policy.


Every war in recent history has been the elite grabbing power. Spanish-American war was started by a false premise. The sinking of the Maine. It has been discovered that an explosion INSIDE that ship caused it to sink.


The Nazis burned down the Reichstag and blamed in on Jews and Communists.


FDR knew of the incoming Japanese at Pearl Harbor. The radar men were told to turn their equipment off.


Vietnam was started by the false Gulf of Tonkin episode. TOTALLY fabricated.


George Bush Sr. had the women in front of the camera crying over the baby incubators in Kuwait. Again, Total Fabrication.


Clinton and his criminals were compliant and knowledgeable with first WTC attack (FBI helped the bombers), Waco, Ruby Ridge, and OKC bombing.


This current criminal organization, The Bush Administration, knew of 9/11 ahead, but let it happen.


Noreiga, Hussein, Bin Laden...all CIA operatives


We are caught in a quagmire...2 potential threats to world peace...Bush and Hussein......Have them fight to the death with each other....


Why does the US "negotiate" with North Korea, but the potential threat of Hussein warrants an invasion on a defenseless country? OIL! and CHINA! Bullies don't like even fights.


One more thing...Develope alternative enrgy on a Manhattan Project scale to cut off the life blood of power crazed Arabs.




[Edited 1 times, lastly by swamp gas on 01-22-2003]

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Billy Joe McAllister
Muppets are people too


249 posts, Jan 2003

posted 01-22-2003 11:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Billy Joe McAllister     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You are quick with the unsubstantiated lies and propaganda, aren't you Gas? Must be in the genes.

>>>>BJ,
Why do you always call people names when they don't agree? Just state your opinion and be done with it.<<<<

I consider you a fool. That's not an insult. That's a fact. I also consider you a hypocrite, given that you are always the first to engage in name calling.

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swamp gas
Bird Man of Hudson County


Jersey City, NJ
779 posts, May 2002

posted 01-22-2003 12:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for swamp gas     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OK, Ahole,
I write a post that just states historical fact, and you call me a fool. Uh-Huh.


Why don't you act like the genius you purport to be, instead of flaming everyone who doesn't agree with you. In fact, go over my last post and say what's propaganda and what's fact. You are a historical ignoramus and can only back up your opinions with, "Fool", UN-AMerican", "Communist", and "traitor". .....LOL........


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Mech
Resisting the NWO


Northeast USA
3907 posts, Sep 2002

posted 01-22-2003 01:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mech   Visit Mech's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anyone who belives that there isn't a NEW WORLD ORDER that controls the Bush Whitehouse is living in a constant state of denial.

All one has to do is dig deeper. Just as surely as Swamp Gas has.

All one has to do is research what Swamp just listed. Its FACT.

Not "unsubstantiated lies and propagnda". This proves to me how BLIND Billy Joe is and how he GOES OUT OF THE WAY to deny the FACTS in order to build up his strawman, George W. Bush.

This is too obvious.


[Edited 1 times, lastly by Mech on 01-22-2003]

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swamp gas
Bird Man of Hudson County


Jersey City, NJ
779 posts, May 2002

posted 01-22-2003 02:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for swamp gas     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mech,
BILLIE GOAT is basically a mosquito flying around our heads. No thinking, just trying to suck blood. Psychic citronella is the answer. A minor annoyance. Eventually he'll just go away.

You'll notice he has posted no original thoughts of his own. He even used the "Love it or Leave it" quotation from the 60's on you. Ever see the movie "Joe?" Reminds me of BJ

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theseeker
One moon circles


Damnit...I'm a doctor jim
3297 posts, Jul 2000

posted 01-22-2003 02:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for theseeker   Visit theseeker's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
and of course gas anyone who does not think the communist party isn't 100% backing and behind the peace movement is also a fool...mech suspiciously dissapppeared right after I posted that on page one last night...the truth is such a bitter pill to take...

yep yep

btw dick army changed his position he is 4 the war...

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the professor
exposing the mechanisms of evil


heartland USA
770 posts, Jan 2003

posted 01-22-2003 02:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for the professor   Visit the professor's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have to jump in on this. You guys are right on both sides, yes Bush is a fascist,
yes the peacenics are a bunch of socialist
commies, well that leaves myself in the middle I guess. As far as no NWO Billy,
well Bush sr made the very statement of such
11 years to the day of 911, not to mention
I've heard Brokaw and Jennings also refer to
such. The NWO isn't coming it's here. Ever
hear of your GLOBAL COMMUNITY?
It's pretty startling how they snuck it in under our noses, If there is no such global
movement you better let Matt Drudge, Newsmax, American Freedom News and all the
mainstream media know so they can make some changes. Some of you people should really
study your constitution! sorry Seeker but
Mech is right on the constitutional part.
Read the ten steps to Marxism and you'll
see that our country already is doing seven
of them. Our countries finished already,
there will be no such awakening, I hate
to put it to you guys like this but it's a
fact. You can still go about and live a
happy life though, I'm not depressed it's just the situation that I'm placed in.
I just deal with it and no I'm not implying
apathy but theres only so much someone can do. But thats just me and I'm still all
for kicking Saddams ass. Like I said you can
still love your country and fellow American
under these circumstances. Please don't try
and figure out my way of thinking.

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Mech
Resisting the NWO


Northeast USA
3907 posts, Sep 2002

posted 01-22-2003 03:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mech   Visit Mech's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great post Prof.


There ARE Communist/socialist ELEMENTS in the "peace movement" I agree with that but I would NOT say all of them are. There are also veterans, soccer moms, sports bar yahoos, retirees, students, labor activists, and patriots who think this war is bad idea. I don't see ANY of them signing up to support a "subcommandante' ski mask" type socialist group. That is too convenient a label.

I'm glad to see that you are looking beyond party affiliation Prof.

We've got to take back our Constitutional Republic from these mosters wether they have a demoRat face or republonazi face.

There are only a handful left in our federal government who are 100% opposed to this agenda, and they are constantly being attacked. People like Ron Paul is just one example.

Fight the New World Order

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swamp gas
Bird Man of Hudson County


Jersey City, NJ
779 posts, May 2002

posted 01-22-2003 03:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for swamp gas     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yippee Seeker We're all on a Ship of Fools,

You're following the Whore-Witz line. Communists are everywhere, in our pants, in our coffee, in our eggs. Yes, Dear....There in everybody's eggs.

I find it strange that McCarthy, Nixon, Prescott Bush, and J. Eager Believer were sympathizing with Nazism in the early 40's, then all switched when it was politically incorrect. Then, lo and behold, Operation Paperclip gets enacted. The US brings in Nazis of all forms to be put into all branches of the government, including the CIA, banking, rocketry, and psychiatry. Next, the same people are hunting Jewish comedians, Peace activists, and people who figured out what they are up to. The Nazis hated the Russians and would even fabricate the arms buildup on the Polish border after WW2. So, was born the Cold War. Lies upon fabrications upon half truths. Can you blame Russia for eventually arming itself? A bunch of half-crazed Nazi imports all exacting revenge on Jews and Russians. Eisenhower knew this. He warned us of the Military-Industrial Complex in 1961. McCarthy even accused him of being a Communist. None of the systems have worked. Nazism, Fascism, Totalitarianism, Corporate Feudalism, Socialism, Communism, Dynasty, Empire, CIA, and Mafia. What's the answer...Democratic Capitalistic Socialism by Proxy.


Mech and Prof...Agreed

[Edited 1 times, lastly by swamp gas on 01-22-2003]

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theseeker
One moon circles


Damnit...I'm a doctor jim
3297 posts, Jul 2000

posted 01-22-2003 03:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for theseeker   Visit theseeker's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
mech's right about what professor ?

there's so much chaff I have a hard time finding any wheat...

the money for the peace movement comes from the communist party mech not soccer moms...most of the money has come from n.korea...and muslims orgs...how about them apples....

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Mech
Resisting the NWO


Northeast USA
3907 posts, Sep 2002

posted 01-22-2003 03:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mech   Visit Mech's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
PROOF PLEASE? I think you are full of $#!+ and most certainly are a SHILL.

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swamp gas
Bird Man of Hudson County


Jersey City, NJ
779 posts, May 2002

posted 01-22-2003 03:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for swamp gas     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Straight From Dead's Head

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/911Exposeddotcom.mpa


Who's supplying the money for the War Movement besides the American Public, Oil Companies, and Defense Contractors? The last 2 sound like Bush's, Cheney's, and Rumsfeld's portfolio.

[Edited 1 times, lastly by swamp gas on 01-22-2003]

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Mech
Resisting the NWO


Northeast USA
3907 posts, Sep 2002

posted 01-22-2003 03:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mech   Visit Mech's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey swamp...All I get is source code on my screen when I click on that link...what program for Mac can read this?

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theseeker
One moon circles


Damnit...I'm a doctor jim
3297 posts, Jul 2000

posted 01-22-2003 03:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for theseeker   Visit theseeker's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
reposted from page one due to extreme ignorance on mech's part...here's the proof dumbass...the peace movement is a shill org for the commies ! LOL

\\\\

clearly mech you either refuse to see the truth or are just plain ignorant...I'm not sure at this point but below is a list of those who are pulling your chain....
and before we get to that...answer me this why all the communists supporting this anti war effort ?

why sudan why north korea why all the muslims and of course why the PLO...why mech ?

here's the sponsor of the peace rallies...
http://www.internationalanswer.org/


funded by communists around the world...
http://www.workers.org/
http://www.cpusa.org/
http://www.workers.org/wwp.php
http://www.wsws.org/


hillarious how it's the same hate speech your throwing around ain't it !

Other Coalition-Member Sites international answer:

American Muslims for Peace & Justice

Anti-Imperialist League

California Prison Focus

Center for the Comparative Study of Law and Society

Charlotte A.N.S.W.E.R. Chapter

College Voice for Free Tuition and Open Admissions (College of Staten Island) - email

Committee to Free the Five Cuban Political Prisoners

The Cuba Advocate Newsletter

Green Party, USA

International Concerned Family and Friends of Mumia Abu-Jamal

Jews Against The Occupation

National Lawyers Guild
Network in Solidarity with the People of Guatemala

Partnership for Civil Justice

Paul's Justice Page

Raise the Fist (shut down by FBI 2/2002 - 3/2002, back online)

Sakhi for South Asian Women

School of the Americas Watch

Simmons College Feminist Union

Soccorso Popolare

Stop the War Coalition - UK

Sudanese American Society

Texas Death Penalty Aboltion Movement

TransgenderWarrior.org

Vanguard Public Foundation

Veterans For Peace

Vietnam Veterans Against the War - Anti-Imperialist

steering commitee for international answer :

Partnership for Civil Justice - LDEF
Nicaragua Network
Bayan - USA/International
Korea Truth Commission
International Action Center
Muslim Student Association of the U.S./Canada
Kensington Welfare Rights Union
Mexico Solidarity Network
Middle East Children's Alliance


supporters of votenowar.org :


The National Lawyers Guild
Dr. Hans Christof von Sponeck (former director of the UN Oil for Food Program)
Ramsey Clark (former U.S. Attorney General)
Rev. Jesse Jackson, Sr.
New York City Labor Against the War
Patti Smith
Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney (Dem., Georgia)
Black Voices for Peace
Bishop Thomas Gumbleton (Auxiliary Bishop, Catholic Archdiocese of Detroit)
Rev. Herbert Daughtry, National Pastor, House of the Lord Pentecostal Church
Rev. John Dear
Rev. Graylan Hagler (Sr. Minister, Plymouth Cong. Church)
Global Exchange
Howard Zinn
The Muslim American Society Freedom Foundation
Green Party USA
Charles Barron, NYC City Councilmember
IFCO/Pastors for Peace *
Free Palestine Alliance *
Partnership for Civil Justice - LDEF *
Bayan USA-International *
Nicaragua Network *
Muslim Student Association of the US/Canada *
Korea Truth Commission *
International Action Center *
Kensington Welfare Rights Union *
Middle East Children's Alliance *
Mexico Solidarity Network *
* A.N.S.W.E.R. Steering Committee

good reading on who ramsey clark really is :
http://www.shadow.autono.net/sin001/clark.htm


larger list of endorsers :
http://www.internationalanswer.org/campaigns/j18/endorsers.html


get a grip...you've been had...

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swamp gas
Bird Man of Hudson County


Jersey City, NJ
779 posts, May 2002

posted 01-22-2003 03:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for swamp gas     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mech,
Quicktime. I got 6.1, OSX in mine. I tried it in Windows and is a little cranky, but eventually started. OS9 QT 5 is a no go.

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Mech
Resisting the NWO


Northeast USA
3907 posts, Sep 2002

posted 01-22-2003 03:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mech   Visit Mech's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I figured it might be a plug-in for my browser or something. Not sure which version of QT I have. I will check.

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Mech
Resisting the NWO


Northeast USA
3907 posts, Sep 2002

posted 01-22-2003 04:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mech   Visit Mech's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"....answer me this why all the communists supporting this anti war effort ?..."


I don't know I'm not a communist but the constitution allows for their right to free speech.

"-----why sudan why north korea why all the muslims and of course why the PLO...why mech ?-----"


I don' know either about them either. They are citizens of the U.S. (civilians) from those countries so i am sure they are concerned about BUSH destroying those contries for profit. They probably have relatives there.

I wonder where Seekers distant relatives are from?

Yes the WWP and CCP are Marxist/Communist orgs.

INT. ANSWER--is a collective made up of all different kinds of affiliations.

Ram Clark?...Don't know very much about him. I think he qualifies as questionable.

The only think I see coming from you Seeker is your deperation to taint the whole protest over this past weekend to suit your narrow view of the world by labeling everyone (exept yourself of course) as a "commie". Yet you support all of Bush's hegalian, unconstitutionl legislation that evicerates constitutional law. I think Bush and the federal government is playing the role of communist dictator quite well.

One more point. The United states is mde up of all kinds of people with all kinds of preferences, even if we don't agree with all of them, that includes democrats, greens,republicans, socialists etc.

If any of these wants to fight the New World Order and restore the CONSTITUTION, they are on the winning team.

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swamp gas
Bird Man of Hudson County


Jersey City, NJ
779 posts, May 2002

posted 01-22-2003 04:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for swamp gas     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mech,
Agreed. I met Ram Clark during Gulf War 1 in New York State. He seemed liked a sincere man, and he had videos of the death and destruction US bombing was having on innocent civilians in Iraq.


I see Bush regime as the worst of communism and friendly fascism. A consummate piece of garbage.

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Billy Joe McAllister
Muppets are people too


249 posts, Jan 2003

posted 01-22-2003 04:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Billy Joe McAllister     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
>>>>>Mech,
BILLIE GOAT is basically a mosquito flying around our heads. No thinking, just trying to suck blood. Psychic citronella is the answer. A minor annoyance. Eventually he'll just go away.<<<<

If I was trying to suck blood, I clearly would not be aiming for your heads. There hasn't been any blood circulation there for years, I think.

Oh, and if you are going to make statements, it's up to you to prove them. Until then, they must be treated as unsubstantiated propaganda (considering the source), NOT historical fact. Some statements are true. Some are not. You've mixed fact with lies. Let's take each one, one at a time, if you wish.

[Edited 2 times, lastly by Billy Joe McAllister on 01-22-2003]

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Mech
Resisting the NWO


Northeast USA
3907 posts, Sep 2002

posted 01-22-2003 10:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mech   Visit Mech's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm calling you out. I'll mop the floor with you.

Of course you will call it propaganda. You want a global government i'm sure. Actually, i'm almost certain you are COINTELPRO.By now only an idiot FOX NEWS WATCHER would think America isn't becoming a police state and a tyranny. Besides, what would a Wall Street traitor...excuse me..trader, know about the NEW WORLD ORDER?

[Edited 1 times, lastly by Mech on 01-22-2003]

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theseeker
One moon circles


Damnit...I'm a doctor jim
3297 posts, Jul 2000

posted 01-22-2003 10:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for theseeker   Visit theseeker's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
what does a unemployed washed up navy mechanic know ?

>>>0<<<

thing is you'll be the first to go if there is a NWO take over...mainly because it seems you have nothing to offer society...them or U.S.....

and you ain't calling anyone out mech...at best your spitting all over your monitor....

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Mech
Resisting the NWO


Northeast USA
3907 posts, Sep 2002

posted 01-22-2003 10:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mech   Visit Mech's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Whatever.

By the way. Keep your nose out of someone else's argument...it's rude and NONE of your buisness.

You really show a lot of respect for Military veterans NOT.

Just like BUSH. Prop up vets when it suits you and then piss all over them in reality.

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