posted 01-27-2003 03:13 PM            

I'll tell you this much. All of the hits on Set. 11th were specific targets and the Pennsylvania "crash" WAS INTENTIONAL. There was something under the ground there TPTB wanted destroyed, same with that section of the Pentagon and the Trade Towers. There was a reason why they were chosen.It has something to do with computers, this much is certain.The trade towers were demolished with textbook, classsic implosion demolition. They did not collapse due to the aircraft hits.

That's what I believe and i'm stickin' to it.

posted 01-27-2003 03:28 PM               

I too believe the trade center buildings were razed to prevent competent investigation. im interested to know how many others are speculating a set-up. yea a guy wolud have to be a really great pilot to do a belly landing less than 300 yards from the objective in a plane like that!

posted 01-27-2003 03:33 PM            

Remember, this is my OPINION based on some things i've heard over the past 9 months or so.The truth will be revealed, I can promise you that.

posted 01-28-2003 12:57 PM            

Countdown from 10 seconds to 8 seconds, 2 seconds, a 60 video frame distance. It appears that there are many frames absent from this video. They are showing 1 frame per second (1/30 NTSC video frame rate). If the jet was flying at 200 miles per hour, it would be traveling at 275 feet per second or 9 feet per video frame.

Now, the height of the Pentagon is 77 feet. Drawing an arc out from the point of impact, it would be about 2.5 times the height, or approx 200 feet, from where the jet appeared at the full right of the screen.

posted 01-28-2003 04:32 PM            

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Well swampy, I just thought I would leave this thread alone because you so elegantly proved my point, but your utter stupidity in the “pentagon animation” thread forces me to repost.
1-The plane was only traveling at 200 mph? Come on, even the rest of your chemmie buddies know that the cruising speed of an airliner is much faster than that! I am sure some of the pilots on the board will be quick to point out the error of this assumption.

2- Distance of the plane from the building in the first picture? I can’t see the front of the plane behind the card reader in the foreground. How can you?

3- Ok, Mr. video editor, please explain to the rest of us the various types of security camera system is in place at the Pentagon. Explain to us how certain security systems will split the digital capture from multiple cameras so that if you have three cameras recording on a 30fps system, each camera effectively records at only 10 fps. Now, do I know if this kind of system was in use? No I don’t, but then again neither do you.

I’m thinking your speculations regarding the video are pure drivel.

Just a Thought.

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OK JAT,

"1-The plane was only traveling at 200 mph? Come on, even the rest of your chemmie buddies know that the cruising speed of an airliner is much faster than that! I am sure some of the pilots on the board will be quick to point out the error of this assumption."

What if it was traveling at 600 mph? It would travel at 27 ft per video frame at 30fps or 810 feet per second. If the security camera was digitizing at 10 fps, a total of 20 frames would have transpired in that 2 second time, or 81 feet per frame. Nothing seen in that 2 second time, traveling a distance of approx 160-200 feet.

"2- Distance of the plane from the building in the first picture? I can’t see the front of the plane behind the card reader in the foreground. How can you?"

The last counter answered that. You would have seen it unless it is digitizing 1 frame per second.

"3- Ok, Mr. video editor, please explain to the rest of us the various types of security camera system is in place at the Pentagon. Explain to us how certain security systems will split the digital capture from multiple cameras so that if you have three cameras recording on a 30fps system, each camera effectively records at only 10 fps. Now, do I know if this kind of system was in use? No I don’t, but then again neither do you."

Stick with the Nitrous Oxide and sniffing chemicals. I advised a system in my company that digitizes up to 120 frames per second, PC based. In multiple windows, you can easily capture 30 (actually 29.97) fps. There are 24 cameras in my building, with six screens total, with 4 multiples in each if you want, all running full frame rate, with pan and zoom. Want more windows...drop frame rate to 15, and double the windows. Want even more, decrease to 320x240.

Ever use Discreet Combustion or After Effects Real Time with a Digital Voodoo 64i board with dual G4's? Thought not. I can capture real time uncompressed D1 video at 60 fps and output to 2 NTSC monitors 30 fps real time. Want multiples? Go in through the composite inputs and the frame rate capture limit goes up. CCR601 standard. 24 bit 96 khz audio sampling to boot.

Why do you sneak around rumpus room like a little worm. Come on out in the daylight and challenge us "Unwashed masses". The saying goes, "The worms and birds always go after the fruit". That's why David, Mech, Julian Penrod, myself, and others are under attack. We can match your bullying, and the people who are looking for answers don't have to be intimidated.

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So what is the point, It is obvious to me that the frame rate wa less than 30 fps. who cares.

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Swamp Gas

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It would have to be 1 frame a second to not show the plane. I don't know anyone who digitizes in security at such a low frame rate, especially the Pentagram. The lowest I've seen is 5 fps. The jet would have shown up at that rate. Where is it?

I'm sure you think that "Fat", "Big Nose" BinLaden video from Nov 2001 was authentic too. No scan line artifacts on an analog video?!?! Seems like somebody edited that after the fact with a clean non-linear system.

posted 01-28-2003 05:23 PM            

I like that rumpus room