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swamp gas
Bird Man of Hudson County


Jersey City, NJ
1235 posts, May 2002

posted 02-03-2003 01:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for swamp gas     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bhang,
People who believe there is absolutely nothing to this could be called "Coincidence Theorists".


No offense Zoobie, I agree with most of what you say, just that to say something that is not provable with current technology, and is 100% false, is closing the door to potential knowledge. Personally, I prefer the logical route. However, after seeing unexplainable events in my life, I keep an open mind, and let the events unfold and demonstrate their truth of falsehood.

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swamp gas
Bird Man of Hudson County


Jersey City, NJ
1235 posts, May 2002

posted 02-03-2003 01:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for swamp gas     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mech,
You are right on about using the disaster to further Dumya's Sainthood.

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zoobie555
Wackadoo


Conroe, Texas, USA
150 posts, Jan 2003

posted 02-03-2003 01:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for zoobie555   Email zoobie555     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I call it a hoax!
Anyone searching for the truth would do well to do a little research before opening their mouth and quoting some stupid chain letter email that some amateur numerologist who had too much time on their hands and no godamn life sent to everyone@aol.com...
http://www.csicop.org/hoaxwatch/#hoax757

"September 28, 2001

This is the text of an e-mail claiming amazing coincidences among the date, buildings, planes and other circumstances surrounding the terrorist attacks.

It's very strange, maybe a coincidence maybe not.
The date of the attack: 9/11 - 9 + 1 + 1 = 11
September 11th is the 254th day of the year: 2 + 5 + 4 = 11
After September 11th there are 111 days left to the end of the year.
119 is the area code to Iraq/Iran. 1 + 1 + 9 = 11
Twin Towers - standing side by side, looks like the number 11
The first plane to hit the towers was Flight 11
I Have More.......
State of New York - The 11 State added to the Union
New York City - 11 Letters
Afghanistan - 11 Letters
The Pentagon - 11 Letters
Ramzi Yousef - 11 Letters (convicted or orchestrating the attack on the WTC in 1993)
Flight 11 - 92 on board - 9 + 2 = 11
Flight 77 - 65 on board - 6 + 5 = 11

Conspicuously missing from this litany of coincidences involving the number 11 are: "Osama bin Laden" (13 Letters); "World Trade Center" (16 Letters) "Al-Qaeda" (the name of bin Laden's terrorist organization: 7 Letters); "The United States (15 Letters); and "(The) Taliban" (7 or 10 Letters, depending on how you dice it). According to CSICOP Senior Research Fellow, Joe Nickell, this is a case of "picking the hits and ignoring the misses," a practice common to those who hunt for prophetic coincidences.

This e-mail is also plagued with factual errors. For instance, the actual telephone country codes for Iran and Iraq are 98 and 964, respectively. Also, the total number of passengers and crew on Flight 77 was 64, not 65.

People tend to be extremely poor judges of probability when it comes to coincidences. An excellent article by Bruce Martin in the September/October 1998 issue of Skeptical Inquirer, titled Coincidences: Remarkable or Random?, deals with what seem to be striking coincidences between assassinated U.S. presidents John F. Kennedy and Abraham Lincoln, the likelihood of any two people sharing the same birthday, and other seemingly improbable phenomena.

Return to the CSICOP HoaxWatch Menu."

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Bhang
Power to the Sheeple


Baghdad, Iraq
96 posts, Jan 2003

posted 02-03-2003 03:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bhang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmmm... I will look into the numbers again Zombie. But I must agree with Mech that this is being used as a grand unifying hoax. Unfortunate for this dicussion I do not have my notes on nummerology but I must say that there is a particualr method that the early Arab/Hebrew/Jew people used for putting nummbers to letters. Remember they use characters that have multiple meanings and are assigned numbers. Not to mention much is lost in translation. There is a number game here I can bet and I have a strong feeling the Mason/Illuminatti connection is there. I'm out in the field so do not have my texts with me but I'll be sure to get back with the information to make you think twice about what I say. Something is up. The whole SACRAFICE thing is an assumtion but and assumtion based off other factual happenings with NASA, Numbers and the Occult. I feel you Zombie. I'm also open to what you say, but I have more on the subject and am sorry I posted the topic without all the facts to present.
There ARE too many kooks in America that play the whole nummerology/astrology thing out so bad it warps the preception of those who would give it real thought and analysis.

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billder
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North Alabama USA
77 posts, Feb 2002

posted 02-03-2003 04:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for billder   Visit billder's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
not to be a killjoy or anything bhang, but i posted this info a day or so ahead of you under a heading 0201-03=33+alignment...there was a major planetary alignment that day also and the enterprise link is good....like lulu said, numerology is bs, but some people like the religious perverts of the bush crime family take it very seriously....and then there is the layout of cydonia and the pyramids, which is not numerology but transmittal of information in a mathematical language....check out the mars mystery by graham hancock, you will like it, and his fingerprints of the gods....b

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Bhang
Power to the Sheeple


Baghdad, Iraq
96 posts, Jan 2003

posted 02-04-2003 08:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bhang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
wow! the Dever Airport thing is overwhelming! To think they would blantantly display their plans...

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Bhang
Power to the Sheeple


Baghdad, Iraq
96 posts, Jan 2003

posted 02-08-2004 01:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bhang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I hate to beat a dead horse but I was adament when I said I believed that there was more than met the eye. Here is the work I have compiled, edited, researched, wrote and assimilated in the past 10 months concerning Columbia and more 33:

I suggested a link between 33rd degree Masons and the disaster date 02/01/03 = 33 (2+1=3 + year or also as Feb. 1/2003=33) and have also realized that Jan. of that year had 31 days; at the time of the disaster in Israel it was Feb. 02/2003 or the 33rd day of Jan.!

Older musings on the symbolism of Columbus, Columba and the Columbine incident.

A columba is a dove (the branch-bearer) which is the symbol of Semiramis or Isis. Not coincidentally, the International Space Station is referred to as "Isis". The ISiS will be affected by the loss of the Columbia

COLUMBINE comes from the root columba, Latin for Dove - which according to occultists is a transformative & alchemical symbol associated with the Phoenix -- the dove is an illuminated symbol of America or La Mer Ica "The Mother Isis" -- "discovered" by Illuminated Columbus, who was called the "Dove of Genoa". Intriguingly, noted occultist Manly P. Hall pointed out that the Popul Vu declares that the name "America" is derived from the native word for "Feathered Serpent God" Ameruka. Just like the Mayan God of South America Quetzalcoatl.

Columba = Dove. According to noted occultist Madame Blavatsky, the dove is one of several birds, including the phoenix, associated with scorpio, mystical counterpart of the winged serpent or phoenix.

Bina = Twofold, that is, two of things that match, a pair.

COLUMBINA = two of a pair - as in a serpent combined with a dove = PHOENIx or bird of fire which actually is what the space shuttle could have been precieved as.


Conspiracy-theory Web sites had their own explanations on why Columbia's mission ended in disaster. Michael A. Hoffman of The Campaign for Radical Truth in History (http://www.hoffman-info.com/) noted Israeli astronaut Ilan Ramon's role in the aerial bombing of Beirut, Lebanon, during Israel's military actions in that country in the 1980s.

"Human beings are often muttering, 'Why is God silent?'" Hoffman wrote in a column published yesterday. "On the morning of Feb. 1, he fairly shouted at a deaf, dumb and blind Western world, which, until then, had been content to celebrate NASA's selection of an Israeli astronaut in the midst of the ongoing collective punishment of the Palestinian people."

The Web site Infowars.com suggested that the U.S. government somehow planned the Columbia explosion, calling it a "textbook psychological warfare operation — mass distraction/mass unifier" just as the nation prepares for war with Iraq.

Other Web surfers suggested that the Columbia explosion suits political agendas. On the Yahoo Web portal discussion group Propaganda Matrix, the site's operator posted a link to the news site Newsmax.com, which showed a photo of pro-Iraq Pakistani Muslim extremists protesting against the United States next to a story about the Columbia disaster.


Others on the Propaganda Matrix site also suggested that the Columbia explosion would be used to advance war in Iraq.

"At the gross surface level, this 'accident' will blot out 90% of the meaningful news for the next week or two,"(which actually happened) wrote Propaganda Matrix contributor Paul Walker, "thus serving as a major distraction away from the globalists' plottings, away from the guilty, while the war preparations are being finalized."


In the aftermath of the Space Shuttle Columbia disaster on February 1, 2003, conspiracy theories - many suggesting Jewish or Israeli involvement in the shuttle's demise, or invoking other forms of bigotry - surfaced on the Internet in chat rooms, bulletin boards and Web sites, some of which are frequented by anti-Semites, Israel bashers and Holocaust deniers.

Some of the theories focused on Israeli crew member Col. Ilan Ramon, implying that his ethnicity and the fact that he participated, as an Israeli Air Force pilot, in the 1981 bombing of an Iraqi nuclear reactor, were evidence of Jewish or Israeli complicity in the disaster.

One theory put forth the idea that wreckage from the Columbia fell on Palestine, Texas, as "Divine intervention; leaders of Palestinian terror groups called the shuttle accident "punishment from Allah." Those who minimize or deny the Holocaust noted that Ramon was the son of Holocaust survivors and argued that his role in the mission was to "spy" for Israel. Other theories focused on the role Col. Ramon had performed while on the mission.


The Conspiracies Begin to Coalesce


Less than an hour after the shuttle accident, on a far-right conspiracy site, a poster asked:

So......is it even remotely possible that either the US or the Israeli government is responsible for blowing up the shuttle this morning? No matter what happened, it's a tragedy, but it's interesting to note that it was the one time we happened to have an Israeli astronaut aboard.
- from a right-wing conspiracy email list, (2/1) 9:58 AM EST

A report circulated by conspiracist Alex Jones claimed the shuttle disaster was a "textbook psychological warfare operation," a "mass distraction/mass unifier" that was part of a plan the US government had laid out in the 1960s known as the "Northwoods" plan. This document included the assertion that the Joint Chiefs had proposed blaming Cuba if any problems arose with the 1962 launch of John Glenn.

Jones noted that he had proclaimed three weeks prior, "that there was a very good chance that the globalists would do something horrible concerning the latest Colombia mission." He went on to say:

"Understand, the psychological warfare technicians do not even need to publicly blame Iraq for the Columbia disaster. It will serve as a distraction in the global press during the final weeks of war preparation in the gulf. It will serve the dual purpose of unifying the country behind President Bush as he grandstands."

The other reasons why the disaster had to have been planned, according to Jones, was that,


"This is the first Israeli in space -- the fact that he died on board is given twice as much attention than the other six are getting combined. This is being used as a type of tribal bonding mechanism for the coming war for empire in the Middle East. "Our champion warriors died with your champion warriors..." - Jones's Web site, (2/1) 11 AM EST

Another site noted,


"There is some chortling occuring in the anti-semitic community. I have seen the following comment: "As 'satan was cast down to the earth', so shall his kids be here & NEVER allowed to return to the Heavens!" We-ell, I don't know. I suppose that in the spirit of objective scientific experimentation, we ought to launch another Jew into space as soon as possible to, hopefully, dispell such a notion. Whether we should limit the proposed shuttle crew exclusively to Jews, (to limit possible collateral damage) is subject to one's biases/apprehensions." - from a right-wing conspiracy email list, (2/1) 7:30 PM EST


Holocaust Deniers Hold Out On the Disaster

The fact that Ilan Ramon's parents had survived the Holocaust, and that he took items related to the Holocaust drew the attention of Holocaust deniers.


David Hoffman, a Holocaust denier, wrote on February 1 asking if the shuttle disaster was "The Hand of God?", - The Hoffman Wire, (2/1) 4 PM EST

The next day Hoffman wrote:

And thus a legend is born, Ilan Ramon, patron saint of astronauts and that lofty class of congenital sufferers, the Children of Holocaust Survivors. To this pious category must be added another in the taxonomy of victimhood, the Survivors of Dead Zionist Astronauts. Prior to Ramon there was Resnick, one of seven astronauts killed in the January 28, 1986 Challenger shuttle explosion.
[…]Vengeance is mine, saith the Lord. Symbolism and happenstance are His as well, and of a far higher and more sublime type than anything the Cryptocracy can ape. A few people will glimpse the awful truth at the core of the explosion, while the majority will sink deeper into the inhibiting awe and petrifying idolatry that characterizes American subservience toward all things Israeli, Zionist and Judaic. But God is not mocked. Dare we say it? In this case, He would appear to be the mocker. - The Hoffman Wire, 2/2


Ingrid Rimland, wrote in her frequent email newsletter the day of the disaster, "Meanwhile, the 'synchronicity' is interesting:

The debris of the space shuttle Columbia, with Israeli astronaut Col. Ramon on board, has rained down in the vicinity of Palestine, Texas. Ramon was a hero in Israel, and reported to have carried with him Holocaust literature into outer space (as the 'son and grandson of Holocaust survivors'). But a few weeks ago, a German citizen buzzed downtown Frankfurt, Germany, with a small plane, to draw attention to Jewish-American astronaut Judith Resnick, who had died in the January 1986 Challenger disaster. As I write, the CNN reports are tending to focus on the person of Israeli astronaut, Col. Ramon, when it comes to the matter of profiling members of the crew. Indeed, the female reporter reporting from Israel apologized at one point for having said the word 'spy' when she intended to say 'space'." - Z-Gram, a Holocaust denial email list, (2/1) 7:15 PM EST


World Reactions

Although the majority of countries and religious leaders worldwide expressed their shock and horror at the disaster, anti-Semitic and anti-Israeli sermons about the shuttle disaster were preached in Iraq and by radical Islamist leaders across the world. The anti-American and anti-Israeli diatribes were also printed in newspaper columns in the Middle East.


Dr. Abd Al-'Aziz Al-Rantisi, a Hamas leader in the Gaza Strip, posted to the Hamas Web site: "... The explosion of the shuttle Columbia is, it is reasonable to assume, part of the divine punishment of America and, together with it, Zionism - because of their massacres of Muslims, the destruction of their lives, the humiliation of their honor, and their desire to globalize corruption..." - Hamas Web site, 2/2 (translation by MEMRI)


In an article titled "Ramon Can Go to Hell," Hamed Salamin, a columnist for the UAE daily Al-Bayan, wrote:

An atmosphere of sadness and shock overcame the Israelis two days ago when NASA announced [Ramon's] death… This is enough to arouse joy in every heart that beats Arabism and Islam. […] Perhaps the sight of the Columbia shuttle's crashing in the town of Palestine, Texas reminds the Israeli people of the daily tragedy of the Palestinians - of the sorrow, the blood, and the massacres that the army of the [Zionist] entity carries out on the occupied lands. But it would not appear that the vast majority of Israelis have feelings for others… The Columbia disaster is a loss to all, even though emotions are conflicting. Sincerest condolences to the American people and to the families of the six American astronauts, and Ramon should go to hell. There is no sorrow for him whatsoever. - Al-Bayan (UAE), 2/3


Abu Hamza Al-Masri, an Islamic fundamentalist leader living in London, told the London Arabic-language daily Al-Sharq Al-Awsat:

It is a punishment from Allah - this is how Muslims see the incident. The target of this event was the trinity of evil, as the shuttle carried Americans, an Israeli, and a Hindu, the trinity of evil against Islam. This is a message to the American people that Bush's term is nothing but a string of curses cast upon them, and that it will lead to the exhaustion of their resources and the elimination of the false American dream... This is a divine message to the Israelis, saying that they are not welcome in space. - Al-Sharq Al-Awsat (London), 2/4 (translation by MEMRI)


Other Reactions on the Disaster


Anti-homosexual activist Fred Phelps produced a flier that claimed, "The 7 Are In Hell," where he stated, "God's Arm hurled Columbia in fragments to the ground, and hurled the 7 fools into the everlasting fires of Hell - in wrath and vengeance, laughing, mocking and deriding this nation of fags." - Phelp's Web site, 2/2


Richard Barrett, of the Nationalist movement, blamed diversity as the cause of the crash. He stated,


Diversity = Death. Once again, the same fate has befallen the latest "diverse" mission into space as befell the Challenger in 1986. Columbia, whose seven-member crew contained only three American men, blew up upon re-entry from a sixteen-day mission. All on-board, dubbed "Diversonauts" by columnist Mark Siporen, were killed. The seven-member crew of Challenger had included only three American men, as well, together with one Negro, one Jewish woman, one American woman and a Chinaman. Aboard Columbia were a Jewish man, an Indian woman, an American woman and a Negro. "What an insult to Christopher Columbus, who established civilization in the New World," said Wendell Gardner," to have named such a motley crew, including even an Indian, after him."

[…] The demise of Challenger, however, prompted NASA to retrench to banning all but Neil-Armstrong types from space-flight. The plan held and success returned to space-exploration, until "affirmative-action" began to creep back in, culminating in the latest explosion. "Diversity," actually, had returned not only to the cockpit, but to the ground crew, as more and more Negroes and aliens, some even from foreign countries, were forced back into the space program. - Barrett's Web site, 2/2

Speculation about Ramon's Activities

Only a few days after the disaster, the experiments Ramon had conducted while in orbit were focused upon by conspiracists.


The belief that this mission was part of a plan to develop technologies that could spy on Iraq's secret programs to develop weapons of mass destruction was put forth by Yoichi Clark Shimatsu, who is noted as a Hong Kong-based journalist and former general editor of The Japan Times Weekly in Tokyo. He wrote an article that was reposted in numerous online forums detailing his suspicions that Ramon's camera was designed to give information on Iraqi weapons programs and was powered by nuclear material. He wrote,

The computer-controlled cameras were pointed earthward to detect desert dust and "pollution aerosols . . . to provide scientific information about atmospheric aerosols and the influence of global changes on the climate." The data was directly transmitted to Tel Aviv University and, according to investigative journalist Gordon Thomas, on to the Israeli Biological Institute, the hub of Israel's nerve-gas and bioweapons programs. […]

To eliminate the risk of a power shutdown to the other experiments and the spaceship itself, a multi-spectral telescope requires an independent source of power, and the obvious solution is nuclear power. […]

How then can the Bush and Sharon administrations win public support for space-based weapons? A cynical solution is to make martyrs of an Israeli-American space shuttle crew. Show them to be victims of outmoded technology and, more important, obsolete thinking in NASA and in Congress about keeping space free of nuclear power and potential war-making technologies. Is it conceivable that an American president would deliberately sabotage the Columbia? If his agenda is to affect a shift of NASA from a hybrid civilian-military space agency to an arm of the Pentagon's ballistic missile defense program, then no sacrifice could be too great - especially if Ilan Ramon's telescope had failed to detect any smoking guns over Iraq. As for the Israeli leader, it must be recalled that the Likud movement is built on the cult of martyrdom - from ancient Masada and the Warsaw ghetto to the Irgun fighters killed in fratricidal violence by Haganah militiamen at the birth of Israel, from Yonathan Netanyahu's demise in Entebbe to - now - the death of Colonel Ilan Ramon, nonchalant bomber of Iraq's nuclear plant repackaged as a hero of science.
The Laissez Faire Electronic Times, Vol 2, No 7, February 17

Conspiracy theorist and author Gordon Thomas, noted in Shimatsu's article as a source, published a piece with the headline, "Israel's Shuttle Astronaut Was On a Secret Mission on Columbia." He wrote,


Astronaut Ilon Ramon was conducting secret experiments on the Columbia to discover new ways to beat Saddam's threat to use biological and chemical weapons against Israel. For most of his 16 days on board the Columbia, he had been using cameras linked directly to the Israeli Space Agency to study desert dust and wind-drifts emanating from the deserts of Iraq. The information was fed to the Institute for Biological Research - the ultra-secret establishment that is at the cutting edge of Israel's multi-layered defence system. The Institute's scientists constantly study how contaminants can drift into Israel from Iraq.

Thomas alleges that the Institute creates "lethal toxic weapons" for the Mossad "to kill without trial the enemies of Israel." He stated:


[…] "For Ramon the flight was a chance to honour in the heavens all the victims of the Holocaust", Ilon's father, Eliezer, said yesterday.
For the scientists at the Biological Research Institute, to the very end his work proved invaluable."


Conclusion

The tragedy of the Space Shuttle Columbia was felt not only in the United States, but also in the heart of Israel. The theories the Anti-Defamation League has found on the Internet demonstrate that, even in times of tragedy and sadness, those who weave conspiracies involving Jews and Israel are hard at work.

U.S. MISSILE DEFENSE TEST SHOT DOWN COLUMBIA SPACE SHUTTLE
by Kahn, guest columnist. [February 17, 2003]

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I have put this together after doing some research, and I strongly believe I'm right. Here is the truth:

1. At 0815, Columbia began its de-orbit burn.

2. At 0852, just over California, the first indications of problems begin to emerge. Three brake-line sensors in the left wheel well show an unusual temperature rise.

3. At 0853, there is a loss of temperature sensors in the hydraulics systems in the trailing edge of the left wing. Temperature sensors in the left wheel well show an abnormal rise -- 30-40 degrees -- in five minutes. The shuttle is currently over California.

4. At 0854, as Columbia moves over Nevada, sensors on the main fuselage above the left wing show a temperature rise of 60 degrees.

5. At 0855, yet another sensor in the left wheel well shows a temperature rise.

6. At 0856, sensors in the left main gear tire-wheel continue to report a temperature increase.

7. At 0857, skin temperature sensors fail.

8. At 0858, the shuttle reached New Mexico. Three temperature sensors on the left side of the vehicle stopper working. At this stage, Columbia is at an altitude of nearly 40 miles; its speed is in excess of Mach 18 (18 times the speed of sound -- 13,200 mph).

9. At 0859, onboard sensors indicate the left-hand drag is increasing. Two of the four yaw jets on the right side fire for one-and-a-half seconds to try to correct the vehicle's attitude.

Just like clock work at 0900 EST the shuttle breaks up. A top secret test successfully concluded right on time.

* The Columbia Crew

Israeli Air Force pilot Col. Ilan Ramon was a living symbol of Israeli-American aerospace cooperation, which has included the Arrow interception technology incorporated into Patriot missiles.

Ramon was no bystander in the Middle East conflict. He received flight training at a U.S. Air Force base in Utah in the 1970s, became a pilot in the Israeli Air Force, and was part of an Israeli bombing mission that destroyed an Iraqi nuclear power plant in 1986.

Ramon's military role aboard Columbia went beyond symbolic value. His research mission involved a top secret test for which he sacrificed his life. He was probably transmitting test data to Space and Missile Defense Command right up to the very last second. One or two others were probably aware of the experiment and sacrificed their lives for a greater cause.

* The Top Secret Test

We all know about the U.S.'s National Missile Defense (NMB) program. Russia and China have condemned the NMB, because it violates the ABM (Anti-Ballistic Missile) treaty that the U.S. signed with Russia -- and also because it will spark a new weapons race.

Over the past five years, various NMB-related technologies have been tested. While world attention has been diverted to far less successful BMD programs involving the Patriot Advanced capability-3 (Pac-3 and the Israeli Arrow 2) missile system, the more promising technologies have been kept under wraps and given a low profile.

Successfully tested technologies include Tactical High Energy Laser (THEL), a joint project between the U.S. and Israel. Successful THEL tests were conducted from New Mexico's White Sands missile range in 2000/2001, where is shot down Katyusha rockets and incoming artillery projectiles.

The THEL system uses a high-energy, deuterium fluoride chemical invisible beam. The laser produces and amplifies light of a particular wavelength, or color, which is then directed at a target with great accuracy.

In a typical engagement scenario, when a missile is launched, upon detection by the THEL fire control, the radar establishes trajectory information about the incoming missile, then passes the target to the pointer-tracker subsystem (PTS), which includes the beam director. The PTS tracks the target optically, then begins a "fine tracking" process for THEL's beam director, which targets THEL's high-energy laser. The energy of the laser heats the target, which causes it to explode.

If the laser is powerful enough, it can generate very high temperatures where the light falls, melting or vaporizing the target.

A study completed in 2001 concluded that the missile interceptor has "lots of promise" and further development should be pursued, primarily in enabling system's air transportability, including the type of transport aircraft it should fit on (C-130, C-17 or C-5).

In early 2002, military scientists were trying to develop the laser with a greater range, that can follow and hit fast-moving objects at distances ranging from tens of kilometers.

At the same time last year, the US Air Force and Missile Defense Agency were poised to begin flying the first Airborne Laser (ABL) test aircraft. Loitering at altitudes around 40,000 feet, the ABL system is designed to destroy boosting ballistic missiles with a multi-megawatt laser beam that travels at light speed over great distances. Its high-energy beam (about the diameter of a basketball) will heat a missile's side until it fails structurally, then tumbles to earth.

Apparently, a laser with a higher range was developed sometime last year, and the only thing missing was the actual test against an incoming ICBM in the terminal phase (i.e., when a missile or warhead enters the atmosphere).

* Columbia's Secret Role

Testing a high-power laser to shoot an ICBM can ignite a serious rift between Russia and America, triggering a new Ballistic Missile race, so secrecy is vital. Yet such a test is difficult to keep secret. Hence the need for an alternative target to an ICBM entering the terminal phase -- a target that no one will suspect of being part of a secret missile test.

Columbia was one of the oldest in its class, and was probably due for decommissioning. It was the best alternative available, since the initial re-entry of a shuttle can imitate an incoming ICBM and can be targeted as such within the terminal phase. Also, there is the advantage of having a two-way live test data feed.

The laser tracking system started tracking the shuttle over California, aiming the laser at it from New Mexico, and soon afterwards, within the expected time frame, Columbia broke up, scattering across Texas.

Data was collected, the test was a success, and seven astronauts gave their lives in the line of duty for greater good.

The nation mourns, suspecting a major malfunction. Various theories are presented, but none of them are conclusive.

Three days later, the British get the go-ahead for the early warning system upgrade, which possibly involves THEL system deployment as well.

* The Coverup
The media overrates the shuttle disaster story, giving it unexpectedly high coverage, raising many uncomfortable questions.
Suspicions arise when external intervention is suggested -- especially after an amateur photographer from San Francisco comes forward with some unusual pictures of Columbia. The story is put out of circulation, and images confiscated are by NASA.

Cover stories come out to debunk any suspicions, including images assumingly taken by a high resolution US Air Force telescope. The image is far too blurry and dark, looking like it was taken from an Austin Power movie rather then a US Air Force telescope.

The media may have forgotten about this tragedy but those of us with Third Eyesight have not and will one day find the TRUTH.

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Northeast
543 posts, Jul 2003

posted 02-08-2004 07:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JerseyBluEyz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Whoa Bhang! You had some quotes there that I never read before! As sad as that story is, I got a lot out of reading the post. Thanks for the time and effort you put into that! Interesting how each nation, or thought process can put their own negative spin on things huh? Since you and I both follow the symbolism behind Illuminati rituals, I thought I’d give you some further information. I started putting together my own list for you, but on a whim checked Stew’s site and got a MUCH bigger symbolic list than I could ever have come up with. You hit on some of them, but I'm pasting the list in it's entirety. Here you go:

- This was the 113th space shuttle flight.
- Columbia has been flying for 22 years (twinning).
- The shuttle took off on 01-16-2003, which equals a number 13.
- Ft. Hood, Texas is sending a recovery team calling it a 24/7 operation, which equals a number 13.
- CNN used a local station “13” in Florida to cover Cape Canaveral.
- The runway to which it was heading is Runway # 33 which is 3 miles long.
- 02-01-03 leaves 333 days in this year.
- The event took place on the exact anniversary week of the Challenger accident in 1986.
- The event took place on the date of the Chinese New Year.
- The event took place on the date of a New Moon.
- Challenger exploded while taking off; Columbia exploded while landing—a completion cycle.
- Columbia exploded over Palestine, Texas with an Israeli astronaut on board.
- The Israeli astronaut fought in the Yom Kippur War and was on the mission in 1981 to destroy the Iraqi nuclear facility.
- The name "Columbia" is derived from "Columbus" which comes from the word "Calumba." This is the name of an Illuminati cult of the White Dove—a UN/Reptilian image, i.e., white, winged Reptilian descendents.
- Both the states of Florida and Texas are involved; both are politically connected to the Bush clan.
- Florida is the Sunshine State. Texas is the Lone Star State. The sun is our star. This is symbolic of Texas and Florida being twin stars, a reference to a binary star system.
- The space shuttle was launched on the 16th (7) for a 16-day mission (7) with (7) astronauts aboard. There are (3) 7s. There are 7 Reptilian species; all worship a 3-horned god.
- On board was an African-American, an Asian-American, a Jew, and two descendents of Committee of 300 families—Blair/Clark and Brown.
- The astronaut McCool is a name that shows double twinning symbology—“cc” and “oo.”
- An Indian and Israeli were both on board; both from nations with major issues against Muslims.
- Witnesses reported seeing "spirals in the sky" with a rumbling hum; evidence of a particle beam accelerator weapon?
- A 5.5 magnitude quake occurred approximately one hour after the event in Chiapas, Mexico, directly south of the explosion.

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posted 02-10-2004 07:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lies..all lies     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think Bhang is suffering from being away from mommy and daddy to long. I suppose your going to say your proud to serve in the military too, just like Mech has. Sounds to me like the people you serve with should watch their backs for that friendly fire accident that could happen if they don't agree with you.


Columbia's left leading edge was struck by foam insulation just as the launch vehicle was reaching MaxQ. The resulting damage caused a catastrophic failure of the left wing when superheated gases breached the skin of the orbiter on reentry.

It was a breakdown of management that brought Columbia down just as it was when Challenger was destroyed that fateful Jan. morning!

Nothing more, nothing less.

If you did your homework like you said you have you would have read the FULL report on BOTH shuttle disasters.

ROFLMFAO Just wait until I send this latest line of pure BS to a friend of mine who just happens to work for NASA as an electrical engineer. I'm sure quite a few people will want to register here to comment on this little ditty.

Ha Ha Ha the big laser test, yeah right they didn't want to use Santa so close to christmas.

(Edited By Mech for "Colorful" content.)


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posted 02-10-2004 08:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mech   Visit Mech's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Proud Veteran" AKA....Lies all lies....from Akron. You are GONE...TROLL.

BYE.

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Power to the Sheeple


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96 posts, Jan 2003

posted 02-12-2004 08:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bhang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good call Mech.

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posted 02-12-2004 09:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for WHAT   Email WHAT     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Mech:
"Proud Veteran" AKA....Lies all lies....from Akron. You are GONE...TROLL.

BYE.

I would really like to know what you are talking about.

I'm not who you think I am, and I can see being a moderator has given you a god complex.

I am posting from work here in Akron, yes, but I'm not nor have ever been who you think I am. Maybe we work at the same place I don't know, but everyone here in this hospital has access to the net thru this machine.

I demand to have my posting rights back as I am not a Troll.

I can see you really think you can boot people from here at will without any thought, if they disagree with you.

I was just stating my opinion on Bhangs post. I don't troll boards. I state what is on my mind and that's that. If you can't handle anyone speaking their mind, then this is not the place I thought it was going to be.

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posted 02-12-2004 09:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mech   Visit Mech's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"I can see you really think you can boot people from here at will without any thought, if they disagree with you."

Wrong. I boot those who cause trouble and use multiple IDs.

#1. I had to edit your post directed at Bhang due to "colorful" content.

(violating board rules)

Plus you were BASHING an active duty member in Iraq.


#2. IP records DON'T lie.

Bye

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