posted 02-12-2003 12:27 AM            

Do YOUR OWN reserch the next time.

BUSH , KEN LAY GOP CONTRIBUTIONS and ENRON
http://usgovinfo.about.com/library/weekly/aa011402a.htm

BUSH CREATES LARGEST DEBT IN HISTORY
http://www.truthout.org/docs_02/12.27B.bush.slash.htm

BUSH SR./REAGAN's RECORD DEBTS
http://www.lexisnexis.com/academic/2upa/Sbe/USNationalEconomy.htm

AMERICANS MORE INSECURE ABOUT ECONOMY THAN EVER
http://www.zenroren.gr.jp/english/sympo/e-26.htm http://blue.butler.edu/dawgnet/020925/544.html http://www.theriver.com/TheRiver/RiverPlace/messages/8784.html http://www.presstelegram.com/Stories/0,1413,204~21478~1163153,00.html

ECONOMY IN SHAMBLES
http://www.heraldnet.com/Stories/03/1/29/16434049.cfm http://www.stateline.org/story.do?storyId=284441 http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&node=&contentId=A63045-2003Jan15¬Found=true

DOLLAR DEVALUED EVEN MORE
http://www2.ocregister.com/ocrweb/ocr/article.do?id=23860§ion=BUSINESS&subsection=MONEY_SMARTS&year=2003&month=2&day=5
http://quote.bloomberg.com/fgcgi.cgi?ptitle=Top%20Financial%20News&s1=blk&tp=ad_topright_topfin&T=markets_box.ht&s2=ad_right1_topfin&bt=ad_position1_topfin&box=ad_box_all&tag=finan cial&middle=ad_frame2_topfin&s=APkD3lxXARG9sbGFy
http://www.thisdayonline.com/archive/2002/02/15/20020215news04.html http://www.buzzle.com/editorials/1-3-2003-32978.asp http://www.theamericancause.org/shopping.htm

EVERYDAY MORE BUISNESSES CLOSE FOR CHINA
http://www.redherring.com/investor/2003/02/tactics020603.html

MASSIVE LAYOFFS NATIONWIDE
http://www.ctnow.com/business/hc-phoenixearns.artfeb07.story http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/MGAL1ORKVBD.html
http://money.iwon.com/jsp/nw/nwdt_rt_top.jsp?cat=TOPBIZ&feed=bus&src=202§ion=news&news_id=bus-n05164305&date=20030205&alias=/alias/money/cm/nw http://apnews.excite.com/article/20030203/D7OVAUQ80.html http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/2711717.stm http://money.excite.com/ht/nw/bus/20030130/hle_bus-n3063196.html http://www.twincities.com/mld/pioneerpress/5051779.htm http://apnews.excite.com/article/20030128/D7ORGLEG3.html http://www.thejacksonchannel.com/news/1937691/detail.html http://quote.bloomberg.com/fgcgi.cgi?touch=1&btitle=Business&T=sa_content.ht&s=APicgIBT6Sm9uZXMg http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/news/archive/2003/01/16/financial1312EST0153.DTL http://wabi.tv/story.asp?3135 http://www.usatoday.com/money/industries/retail/2003-01-14-kmart-closings-list_x.htm http://www.bayarea.com/mld/mercurynews/business/4924191.htm http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/2646093.stm http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&node=&contentId=A35420-2003Jan9¬Found=true http://www.usatoday.com/money/industries/retail/2003-01-10-jc-penney-cuts-kmart_x.htm http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&node=&contentId=A37231-2003Jan10¬Found=true http://news.mpr.org/features/2003/01/08_hemphills_blandinlayoffs/ http://www.wivb.com/Global/story.asp?S=1076113&nav=0RapDG1j http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/businesstechnology/134608500_layoffreport03.html http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/news/archive/2003/01/06/national1321EST0617.DTL http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/business/apbiz_story.asp?category=1310&slug=Bosch%20Plant%20Closing http://twincities.bizjournals.com/twincities/stories/2003/02/03/daily44.html

FIREFIGHTER & POLICE LAYOFFS
http://www.thewgalchannel.com/money/1771514/detail.html http://www.thedailyworld.com/daily/2002/Feb-26-Tue-2002/news/news1.html http://www.clickondetroit.com/det/news/stories/news-128151720020301-070315.html http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/84409_deficit27.shtml http://www.wmfd.com/newsboard/single.asp?Story=9832

PLENTY MORE WHERE THAT CAME FROM............

BUSH’s MOST OUTRAGEOUS UNCONSTITUTIONAL LAWS PASSED SO FAR....

USA PATRIOT ACT
HOMELAND SECURITY ACT OF 2002
MODEL STATES EMERGENCY HEALTH POWERS ACT
SPACE PRESERVATION ACT OF 2001 (H.R.2977)
DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY(H.R.5170)

Coming soon...PATRIOT ACT II

So...now WE SEE exactly how my statements stand defended. BUSH is just as much at fault for a failing economy as CLINTON is and BUSH HAS created more DEBT than any other president in history...WORSE THAN REAGAN. I don’t care...they are ALL TRAITORS as far as i’m concerned. Nothing more than a FULL RETURN to CONSTITUTIONAL LAW and abolishment of the private FEDERAL RESERVE and IRS will fix this problem...not untill ever person in Congress and Buh are tried for TREASON.

I agree we do have the ability as a soveriegn nation to attack when threatened, but IRAQ is not a threat to us.They haven’t been since 1991. Furthermore..WE supplied iraq with WMD’s. We are AT FAULT for this. WE should remedy this situation in a peaceful manner. Having the world community against the IRAQ war is not helping us at all. There is not enough proof....PERIOD.

But getting back to the issue of TREASON. If you think that passage of all of these unconstitutional laws listed above is not ground s for IMPEACHMENT. You are against Constitutional law.

If you think that Bush had nothing to do with the economy imploding...you are simply AGAIN denying the GLARINGLY obvious FACTS.

Read em and weep.

posted 02-12-2003 01:08 AM            

Don't expect me to prove anything to you from now on. You have clearly disrespected me. I can't believe your outright DENIAL OF FACTS.
Well, fool me once, Now I know better not to WASTE MY TIME ON BILLY. I would suggest the same to anyone else debating him.

posted 02-12-2003 01:45 AM            

Sorry Billy, you are TOTALLY in denial I can't help you.

posted 02-12-2003 04:07 AM            

I'd take it as face value that Powell using a dummied up document makes him (in this instance) either a liar (if he knew it was false) or a fool (if he believed his lines as he read them)

My spur to post in the midst of this dogfight, is the comments about America needing to protect itself by invading Iraq.

This began with 9/11:
On 9/11, AirMarshalls could have prevented any hijacking. (.44 specials against boxcutters)

President Carter had an Airmarshall Program.

Elizabeth Dole was President Reagan's Sec Trans, who cancelled the Airmarshall Program & gave US forced helmet and seatbelt use instead.
On 9/11, AirMarshalls could have prevented any hijacking.

In 1998 Pro golfer Payne Stewart was accompanied across country by 5 National Guard jets, because he failed to check in for 17 minutes.
On 9/11, Cheney tells us, the President would have had to order military jets to scramble.
Questions, who was President in 1998 (when the military did their job) and who was President on 9/11?

All these losses of our liberties, spying and martial law would have been wrong if done by Bill Clinton.
How come people who osbsessed for eight years about a Clinton threat to our Constitution and Bill of Rights are OK with worse than they ever imagined being done by people with an (R) next to their name?

Wrong is wrong, no matter what letter is next to their names.

The Gulf of Tonkin incident was a fraud which Lyndon Johnson used as excuse for expanding the Vietnam War.
(Lyndon lied)
President Bush I referred to secret satellite photos which showed a massing of Iraqi tanks poised to invade Saudi Arabia as part justification for the first Gulf War.
Reporters bought commercial photos which showed not one single Iraqi tank anywhere near the Saudi border.
(poppy Bush lied)
Get upset because Clinton lied about sex and find nothing wrong with sending Americans to fight and die based upon lies?
There is something seriously wrong with a sense of balance that justifies lies that result in deaths.
Heck even Catholic Priests lie about sex.

There is something seriously wrong with a sense of balance that supports any politician just because of the letter next to his name.

President Bush's oath of office included a vow to 'protect and defend the US Constitution against all enemies.."
Passage of the Patriot Act's suspension of the Writ of Habeus Corpus, the Bill of Rights, and the Constitutional right to trial, is a violation of his oath and an impeachable offense much worse than lying about sex.
Democrats and Libertarians are now the only ones left who support the US Constitution.
I never thought I'd live to see the day that Republicans would treat the constitution and Bill of Rights like toilet paper.

Or justify lies just because an (R) is beside the liar's name.

posted 02-12-2003 05:47 AM            

Don't be so sure...There are PLENTY of DemoRATS who step on the constitution and helped get a LOT of UNCONSTITUTIONAL legislation passed. They seem to LOVE gun grabbing bills but lately so do the Repubs.

They all need to be kicked out, tried and a brand NEW CONSTITUTIONAL government installed. Also...as important... abolishment of the (private) FED Reserve and the IRS.

posted 02-12-2003 07:22 AM            

Senator Dorgan was almost the only one with integrity to openly resist the unconstitutional USA Patriot Acts.

Many of the others were locked out of their offices by an "anthrax scare" and forced to vote 'yes or no' on that legislation without any chance to read it first.

I'd support immediate impeachment of all politicians of any party who voted yes.

Ron Paul in particular worried daily that Clinton would destroy the Constitution,
but can now only mildly say "We're headed in the wrong direction."

My point is not to defend Clinton against the hate, it's to point out that blind support of, or opposition to, any group is wrong.

Our common enemy is in all political parties.

eg: John Kerry & dubya are both Skull & Bones.

Divide and rule is working out very well for the NWO elitists who run the US Government.

Bill Clinton in 1996 at a NYC cocktail party:
"There is a government within the government and I am not in charge."

A Congressman added, moments later:
"We are just window dressing."

posted 02-14-2003 07:28 PM            

BUSH , KEN LAY GOP CONTRIBUTIONS and ENRON

enron paid NO federal taxes from years 96'97'98'99' *fact*....enron contributed the bulk of campaign money to democrats....*fact*

who was president then mech ?

clinton is respomsible for the enron debacle and global crossing and all the others...including the over inflated stock market...which cost millions of Americans their pensions...the recession which started his last year...that he conviently ignored...

your inability to discuss things without useless links to "hate" information sites is growing incredibly tiresome....

pip~pip...limp richard