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Topic: Yellow Times Shut Down-CTC and WRH next? | Topic page views:
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swamp gas
Bird Man of Hudson County

Jersey City, NJ 779 posts, May 2002
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posted 02-10-2003 12:18 PM
http://nyc.indymedia.org:8081/front.php3?article_id=46344&group=webcast "The only security of all is in a free press. The force of public opinion cannot be resisted when permitted freely to be expressed. The agitation it produces must be submitted to. It is necessary, to keep the waters pure."
....Thomas Jefferson 
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FLKook
Chemspiracy Realist

East Central Florida 1388 posts, Apr 2001
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posted 02-10-2003 01:00 PM
Not agreeing and voicing all opinion including the ridiculous used to be patriotic. Maybe this link is appropriate. http://www.orwelltoday.com/ 
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swamp gas
Bird Man of Hudson County

Jersey City, NJ 779 posts, May 2002
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posted 02-10-2003 01:18 PM
100% correct, Kook. That "Guilty Mind" brain scan thing is scary. I think that intelligent people of both liberal and conservative persuasion are agreeing more than NWO realizes. Perhaps this is what's been holding off Oil War 2 for so long. The dummies of opposite sides want to see perpetual war, so that their bi-Polar brains feel comforable with an enemy...either real or imagined. 
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Mech
Resisting the NWO

Northeast USA 3907 posts, Sep 2002
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posted 02-10-2003 03:32 PM
They got VOX, but I don't think WRH will be shut down, neither will infowars.com The Bush regime has THREATENED to shut down the internet several times due to "Terrorism" but, I really think they wouldn't attempt it. They'd have to have a damn good reason.Censorship is not beyond them however. 
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theseeker
One moon circles

Damnit...I'm a doctor jim 3297 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 02-10-2003 03:36 PM
The Bush regime has THREATENED to shut down the internet several times due to "Terrorismlet's see some proof of this allegation... just who is the bush regime anyway ? 
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Mech
Resisting the NWO

Northeast USA 3907 posts, Sep 2002
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posted 02-10-2003 03:40 PM
Hey, Mr. Knowitall...... http://www.eff.org/Privacy/Surveillance/Terrorism_militias/antiterrorism_chill.html http://www.foxriverwatch.com/nrda/ http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/ubb/Forum6/HTML/000914.html http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig2/bottoms1.html http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2001/6/26/205952.shtml http://www.pfaw.org/pfaw/general/default.aspx?oId=918 http://lists.insecure.org/lists/politech/2001/Oct/0093.html
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theseeker
One moon circles

Damnit...I'm a doctor jim 3297 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 02-10-2003 05:02 PM
Last December, NewsMax.com reported on efforts within the U.S. government to make Web sites responsible for everything said by the other sites to which they provide links.see you guys want to be able to say any sick and twisted thing you want...just don't want to be responsible for it... I figured you for a "lame ass" and you are...
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Billy Joe McAllister
Muppets are people too
249 posts, Jan 2003
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posted 02-10-2003 05:21 PM
Hey Seeker, correct me if I'm missing something, but do you see any where in NewsMax link Mech provided that it was the Bush administration who wants to censor the internet?It said "efforts within the US government" didn't it? Well how many groups do we have in the US government besides the Bush administration? Wouldn't you agree with me, Seeker, that this kind of false generalization to make whatever false, leftist point that Mech wants to make is exactly indicative of what is wrong with the pervasive mentality of this board?
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Mech
Resisting the NWO

Northeast USA 3907 posts, Sep 2002
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posted 02-10-2003 05:51 PM
Wow...I guess defending the First Amendment make someon "lame".I think that is quite ANTI-AMERICAN. 
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theseeker
One moon circles

Damnit...I'm a doctor jim 3297 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 02-10-2003 06:30 PM
mech I guess you probably think the distribution of hardcore,child and beastiality type pornography over the internet is a first amendment deal too...spreading destructive material whether lies as in your case or pornography over the internet is not about freedom it's about catering to a sickness...and is not a right...it is enabling the sickness and is wrong... responsibility deal It said "efforts within the US government" didn't it? Well how many groups do we have in the US government besides the Bush administration? absolutely where's the bush mech ! Wouldn't you agree with me, Seeker, that this kind of false generalization to make whatever false, leftist point that Mech wants to make is exactly indicative of what is wrong with the pervasive mentality of this board?
I agree that it is what's wrong with what unfortunately appears to be a growing faction in our society...and a large number of them do reside here... but this board is fine IMHO  (pssst it's the black background)
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Mech
Resisting the NWO

Northeast USA 3907 posts, Sep 2002
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posted 02-10-2003 06:34 PM
FREEDOM OF SPEECH.... NO CENSORSHIP
PERIOD.

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swamp gas
Bird Man of Hudson County

Jersey City, NJ 779 posts, May 2002
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posted 02-11-2003 10:00 AM
ONE, AND ONLY ONE EXCEPTION:YELLING FIRE! IN A CROWDED AREA PERIOD This is the price we pay for freedom, if not, it's censorship. The company I work for has a rather large IT dept. There are rumblings that the corporations are adamantly oppossed to internet censorship, but a rather large license fee would be imposed on the holders of domain names, rendering small operations null and void. What's $10,000 a year for IBM, Exxon, or Sony? What's it like to Chemtrail Central or Whatreallyhappened? Porn and pedophile sites are not my favorite, but neither is Rush Limbaugh. Both spew dirt, filth, and hate. Should Limbaugh be banned because liberals don't like him? Of course not...Very hypocritical to say yes.

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swamp gas
Bird Man of Hudson County

Jersey City, NJ 779 posts, May 2002
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posted 02-11-2003 12:55 PM
After Internet is "Over-priced" 
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shatoga
Agent Provocateur
588 posts, Nov 2002
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posted 02-12-2003 05:45 AM
> but do you see any where in NewsMax link Mech provided that it was the Bush administration who wants to censor the internet? It said "efforts within the US government" didn't it? Well how many groups do we have in the US government besides the Bush administration?< There is a point being made? Either: A. The Bush Administration is not "the US Government." B. No Administration should be blamed for the actions of the US Government. Congratulations BJM. Your logic just excused Clinton for all actions of the US Government during his Administration.Censorship? >(a famous reporter* at CNN) says "The news room is practically a war zone itself -- the reporters are being prevented by a single news editor from reading stories that are coming over the wire service if they don't promote the Administration's propaganda. (tidbit from a party)< *Permission to 'quote by name' refused; by someone who "prefer(s) to not be fired." Censorship? "Newt Gingrich's affair with a young Capitol Hill aide was an open secret in Washington all during the impeachment, and all through his pompous lectures about America's cultural and moral decline." -Maureen Dowd in the The New York Times, 8/18/99 Censorship? "These people can shut you down with a phone call. Don't you want a forum for your views somewhere..?" Roger Fredinburgh. (Radio talk-show host, explaining why he banned criticism of Bush during the 2000 primaries) "I am more than ever convinced of the dangers to which the free and unbiased exercise of political opinion - the only sure foundation and safeguard of republican government - would be exposed by any further increase of the already overgrown influence of corporate authorities." Martin van Buren > the pervasive mentality of this board?< "Behind the ostensible government sits enthroned an invisible government owing no allegiance and acknowledging no responsibility to the people. To destroy this invisible government, to befoul the unholy alliance between corrupt business and corrupt politics is the first task of the statesmanship of the day." Theodore Roosevelt > the pervasive mentality of this board?< BJM, you would probably really enjoy Free Republic's message boards. They all hate Clinton and love Bush over there. I look forward to reading your posts at Free Republic. "I've just been reminded of something that's really important and is so true....Democrats are just as patriotic about their country as Republicans" George W. Bush- January 22, 2001 "To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that we are to stand by the president, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American Public." - Theodore Roosevelt "Free speech allows rush on the air, free thought allows me to not believe him". "Here in America we are descended in blood and in spirit from revolutionists and rebels - men and women who dare to dissent from accepted doctrine. As their heirs, we may never confuse honest dissent with disloyal subversion." - Dwight D. Eisenhower 
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