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ScaredForTheFuture
Senior Member


Orange County, CA,USA
90 posts, Jan 2003

posted 02-11-2003 12:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ScaredForTheFuture     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good Lord... nice way to make me soil my pants in fear. The news just issued the government's suggestion to get plastic covering and duct tape to "cover your house against possible chemical warfare".

geeeeeeeez.

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FLKook
Chemspiracy Realist


East Central Florida
1388 posts, Apr 2001

posted 02-11-2003 08:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FLKook     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
See the entire brochure about the masks issued to all of Israel. They are also issued atropine that must be shot directly into their heart in case of VX nerve gas. http://www.glennbeck.com/news/10022002.shtml
As frightening as this is at least their government is doing something to protect the people instead of just their own asses. Everyone in our government has been issued gas masks, potassium iodate, cipro, atropine not to mention fallout bunkers. It would cost less to do that for EVERY AMERICAN than the money we are sending to Africa to study aids! There were many geiger counters to detect radiation that were supposed to have been distributed in the 60's. Clinton's administration ordered them destroyed! Do a google search on any of this to verify.

All our federal government cares about is that the government continues. Civilians are on their own. FEMA is only there to mop up the mess after an attack not to help prepare for one. Check their web site.

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FLKook
Chemspiracy Realist


East Central Florida
1388 posts, Apr 2001

posted 02-11-2003 08:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FLKook     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
One more thing Scared...fear is paralyzing, may I suggest transferring that to anger instead. It's hard to be angry and sit still. Take action to prepare you and your family. Make sure you have at least food, water, source of light, sw radio, an evacuation plan. Unfortunately our loving leaders have left us on our own.

Anger is much more productive. I'm not afraid, I'm mad as hell!!!

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swamp gas
Bird Man of Hudson County


Jersey City, NJ
779 posts, May 2002

posted 02-11-2003 09:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for swamp gas     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Kook,
Anger is indeed more constructive than fear. Fear is paralyzing, both to the mind and the spirit. Many composers were pissed off, and tried to transfer that to their music, not as angry music, but healing music. I believe what you are saying is the same, motivate to be prepared for something destructive, rather than chewing your nails waiting. It's like the defensive driver. If you see an accident coming, you are more braced. If you drive about, like everything is Kosher, than if someone slams you, you will be more injured.

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Thermit
Tech


Houston, TX
2621 posts, Jul 2000

posted 02-11-2003 10:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Thermit   Email Thermit   Visit Thermit's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:

The news just issued the government's suggestion to get plastic covering and duct tape to "cover your house against possible chemical warfare".

Any more specifics available on this? Like who exactly said this, or where it might be documented?

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Thermit
Tech


Houston, TX
2621 posts, Jul 2000

posted 02-11-2003 10:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Thermit   Email Thermit   Visit Thermit's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Found this...
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2003/02/20030207-10.html

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ScaredForTheFuture
Senior Member


Orange County, CA,USA
90 posts, Jan 2003

posted 02-11-2003 10:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ScaredForTheFuture     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Or maybe our government is trying to scare the anti-war people into wanting war.

Fine with me.

I personally don't enjoy the taste of Anthrax in the morning.

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FLKook
Chemspiracy Realist


East Central Florida
1388 posts, Apr 2001

posted 02-11-2003 05:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FLKook     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
WASHINGTON — America currently faces "the most significant" threat since the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks, Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge said Monday.]

quote:
Monday, federal officials recommended that Americans should take basic disaster-preparation steps such as maintaining a three-day stockpile of food and water. They also recommended obtaining duct tape and plastic sheeting to seal a house in the event of a chemical or biological attack or disaster.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,78140,00.html

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Mech
Resisting the NWO


Northeast USA
3907 posts, Sep 2002

posted 02-11-2003 05:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mech   Visit Mech's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I wonder if it (the attack) will be from the CIA itself this time or from the CIA trained middle-eastern terrorists. Hmmmmm

What does it matter... THE GLOBALISTS STAND TO GAIN!!!

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Raelven
Elentári


Númenor
123 posts, Feb 2003

posted 02-13-2003 12:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Raelven   Email Raelven     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For weeks we've been told the conclusive proof of ties between Al-Quaida and Iraq will be presented... soon... be patient grasshoppers... soon.

This week, Osama Bin Laden, who dropped out of the news without a trace, resurfaced.
My what most excellent timing Osama has!
What serendipity! What a coincidence!!

Too bad there is no such thing as a coincidence.

It's all so very staged.
It's all to frighten you.
It's all to make you seek a stronger force to protect you. "Yes, yes I will do anything, make any sacrifice, just protect me! Save me from that! Them! IT!!!"

Don't be afraid. 'Tho the sky may grow dark, and your path be unclear, 'tho the future may be uncertain, and the truth be unknown... do not be afraid.

Be aware.
Be informed.
Be stong, be brave, be just and kind and fair and courageous and bright.

Be a light in the world.

Much of the outcome of what is yet to unfold will depend on how Americans decide to treat each other in the days to come.

"This is the hour of the Shire-folk, when they arise from their quiet fields, to shake the towers and counsels of the Great. Who of all the Wise could have foreseen it?"

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Elen síla lumenn' omentielvo!

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the professor
exposing the mechanisms of evil


heartland USA
770 posts, Jan 2003

posted 02-13-2003 12:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for the professor   Visit the professor's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
well if the cold spells in certain areas
maintain and some bio attack happens,
the colder air will make it a hell of alot
harder to spread. So don't panic. The plastic will do no good unless you seal
your heating vent system, I'm perplexed
the GOV would recommend such a thing. If
you want to get a mask, order an Isreali
mask from cheaper then dirt you can order
a battery pack ,charger and motor from the
Racal co, this will give you a powered air
supply mask that will have positive pressure
blowing out in case you break your seal.
The little add ons to modify will cost
about 300, but take my advice if you don't
power air them and get in a situation where
your under a chemical attack and are wearing it and running for cover or whatever you won't get far. The filters
are really hard to pull air and if you
don't pace yourself you could hyperventalate
or worse. The new American masks are a little better and cost more if you can find
any. I've spent hundreds actually more days
in respirator world. I don't think most people could do it if this situation happens
and is pushed to the max.

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Raelven
Elentári


Númenor
123 posts, Feb 2003

posted 02-13-2003 01:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Raelven   Email Raelven     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I hate to agree with the Professor... but I do, we as a civilian nation, are mostly fat, happy, lazy bastiges, unfit for a 5k flat course run, let alone running for our lives in respirators and HAZMAT suits.

Perhaps this will help disolve some fear....
remember, there are only 2 things, Love and Fear. Everything else is borne of one, or the other. Choose wisely.


Another Phony Bin Laden Tape

By Firas Al-Atraqchi (Yellow Times): February 12 2003

On Tuesday, U.S. Secretary of State Colin Powell dropped a bombshell at a Congressional hearingon Iraq and revealed that he had a transcript of an "upcoming" audio message from Osama bin Laden that betrays the links between bin Laden and Iraqi President Saddam Hussein.

However, the White House may have put its foot in its mouth this time around.

Upon careful scrutiny of the audio message from bin Laden (and broadcast at 3pm EST on the Arabic News Network Al-Jazeerah), it appears the Bush administration may have been so desperate to pin anything on Saddam and bin Laden that they did not wait to actually hear the contents of the message, nor provide adequate and reliable translation.

The bin Laden message expresses solidarity with the Iraqi people, advises them to remain steadfast in the coming invasion of their country and declares that Saddam and his aides are not important. "It is not important if Saddam and his government disappear," the man thought to be bin Laden says. "This is a war against you, the Muslims, and you must take arms to defend yourselves."

U.S. officials were quick to point out that the bin Laden message directly incriminates Iraq and proves the existence of ties between bin Laden's al-Qaeda and Saddam. U.S. media touted the official line before even hearing the tape, or awaiting a reliable translation. "Undeniably links Iraq with al-Qaeda," says one CNN anchor.

And then something happened that neither the U.S. administration nor the media anticipated: bin Laden called Saddam an apostate.

The audio message goes on to reveal that bin Laden believes Saddam to be a socialist and declares that "socialists and communists are unbelievers," thereby labeling Saddam an apostate of Islam, an infidel. It is worth mentioning that the government of Iraq is quasi-socialist and secular, and not Islamic.

Walid Phares, an Arabic-speaking MSNBC analyst finds that the audio message undermines Saddam's regime: "Osama bin Laden does not care about Saddam, in fact he can't wait till the demise of Saddam; he is trying to position himself to offer Iraqis an alternative ideology -- he calls socialism abhorrent to Islam."

The voice alleged to be bin Laden's in the audio message also called on the spilling of Saddam's blood: "His blood is halal." This wording is used to indicate what is permissive or legally allowed for the killing of a usurper or criminal.

The audio message also called forth the overthrow of governments supporting the U.S. -- Nigeria, Morocco, Jordan and Saudi Arabia.

If bin Laden is effectively calling on Muslim Iraqis to overthrow Saddam and that Saddam is irrelevant in the coming war and Iraqis should not fight for him, how then can the U.S. administration use this message to prove Saddam and al-Qaeda are linked?

That question left some analysts baffled.

Kenneth Pollack, CNN analyst and anti-terrorism specialist, says that this is not the first time that bin Laden has used the plight of Iraq under sanctions and under Saddam to rally Muslims to his cause. In fact, bin Laden has spoken of the Iraqi issue since 1996, and has not hidden the fact that he is growing distaste for Saddam's socialist, Baathist regime.

"The October audio message this year was a four minute tape and bin Laden expressed sympathy for the Iraqi people," says Peter Bergen, CNN consultant on terrorism. "I don't see today's audio message as endorsing Saddam," he concludes.

If anything, bin Laden's message directed to the people, not leadership of Iraq, (any Arab speaker with two ears can testify that the opening lines of the audio message distinctly declare that this is a message to the Iraqi people) is ambiguous as pertains to alleged links with Saddam.

Nevertheless, U.S. officials maintain that this is all the proof they need. However, the U.S. viewing public must be aware that the they were only allowed to view excerpts of the 16-minute audio message, and contrary to what CNN has been proclaiming, it is not all about Iraq. The audio message also includes advice on refraining from alcohol and illicit sex, and respecting one's parents, in addition to other spiritual advice.

The audio message will not go down so easily in Europe and the Middle East and will be seen as a desperate attempt by a U.S.administration that has taken a bashing in NATO and at the U.N. to turn the tables around.

According to the BBC, "BBC's security correspondent, Frank Gardner, said the figure on the tape voiced support for Iraq, but that in no way did it prove a link between al-Qaeda and the Iraqi leadership."

Arabic speakers are sure to pour scorn on the official U.S. line. U.S. Congressional leaders, who have appeared on talk shows immediately following the excerpted broadcast of the audio tape have alluded to incorrect translations of the original Arabic content.

By default, the U.S. public is offered a half-censored, half-baked version of the audio tape.

While U.S. officials have conceded that the voice on the tape is indeed that of bin Laden, no one has bothered to focus on why the man U.S. President Bush vowed to get "dead or alive" is very much alive and a clear and present danger.

Firas Al-Atraqchi, B.Sc (Physics), M.A. (Journalism and Communications), is a Canadian journalist with eleven years of experience covering Middle East issues, oil and gas markets, and the telecom industry. He is a columnist for YellowTimes.org. He can be contacted at firas6544@rogers.com

Propaganda Matrix

Past Examples Of Fake Terror Alerts/Invented Evidence

Bin Laden tape a fake, Swiss lab says (Story subsequently ridiculed, disappears from media attention)

Fat bin Laden piss poor lookalike with fat nose 'admits' carrying out 9/11 (Story subsequently ridiculed, disappears from media attention)

Politics drove decision to raise alert level

Revealed: truth behind US 'poison factory' claim (It's a bakery)

UK war dossier a sham, say experts (Cited as proof in Powell's UN presentation, written by a graduate student)

Iraq dossier assembled by junior aides

Terror alerts manufactured? FBI agents say White House scripting 'hysterics' for political effect

Britain accused on terror lab claim: Story of find in Afghan cave 'was made up' to justify sending marines

Alerts tied to memo flap: "The Bush administration issued a spate of terror alerts in recent days to mute criticism that its national security team sat on intelligence warnings in the weeks before the September 11 attacks"

Italy frees Pakistani terror suspects (Were arrested in a blaze of publicity used to trump up the Al-Qaeda threat - turns out there was no evidence against them)

DEFINITION OF TERRORISM
"The unlawful use or threatened use of force or violence by a person or an organized group against people or property with the intention of intimidating or coercing societies or governments, often for ideological or political reasons."

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Elen síla lumenn' omentielvo!

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theseeker
One moon circles


Damnit...I'm a doctor jim
3297 posts, Jul 2000

posted 02-13-2003 01:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for theseeker   Visit theseeker's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm trying to figure out this globalist thing...who they are...seems you would focus on countries that seem to want to keep things (money) the way they are...who really have exclusive oil deals...like russia,germany and france...the contracts france,germany and russia have with the existing gov of iraq total close to a trillion...russia's is 40 billion....odd that they are obstructing the war effort...NATO is in danger the UN is crippled and a debating socitety...basically...turkey is the largest muslim country that has a semi-democratic gov...yet they ask for protection and france is balking...

leaving the U.S as the world policeman...

I'd think status quo folk right now (germany,russia,and france) the real money folk are the one's to lose in this deal...and the one's to watch...

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JitsuGuy
New Member


32 posts, Feb 2003

posted 02-13-2003 08:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for JitsuGuy   Email JitsuGuy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
TheSeeker, I'm in Oklahoma too. What a great state. Anyway, I like you, don't know who all the top players are but know they're out there.

I had a dream the other night that something went terribly wrong. The worse thing about it though wasn't the event, but the people. Not one single person wanted to help anyone else even if they had the resources. Hopefully, if something does go down, this isn't the case.

Looking Up,
Jits

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Raelven
Elentári


Númenor
123 posts, Feb 2003

posted 02-13-2003 11:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Raelven   Email Raelven     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
The worse thing about it though wasn't the event, but the people. Not one single person wanted to help anyone else even if they had the resources. Hopefully, if something does go down, this isn't the case.

Amen, Jits, Amen. Exactly what concerns me most about this age in which we find ourselves.

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Elen síla lumenn' omentielvo!

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Billy Joe McAllister
Muppets are people too


249 posts, Jan 2003

posted 02-13-2003 12:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Billy Joe McAllister     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Some things are exactly what they seem. Yes, Islamofachists out there really do want to kill you and take down your government and way of life, just like Hamas and Islamic Jihad want Israel to die. You are the infidel. No matter whether you are Christian or Bhudist or believer in Aliens from the third moon of Chronos ...you are the ones that these people want dead. Do you understand that? Liberal or conservative, you die just the same. Radical Islamic terrorist groups are real. They want to kill you.

Yet most of you attack the very people who are trying to protect and defend this nation from the people who are trying to destroy it, both domestic and abroad.

What’s wrong with this picture?

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swamp gas
Bird Man of Hudson County


Jersey City, NJ
779 posts, May 2002

posted 02-13-2003 01:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for swamp gas     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Opinion. Opinion. Opinion. Just like an a..hole, everyone has one.


Sometimes things are not exactly what they seem. Yes, Islamofascists and Christian Satanic Fundamentalists out there really do want to kill you and take down your government and way of life, just like Sharon, the War Criminal wants Palestinians to die. You are the enemy of the state. No matter whether you are Christian or Buddhist or believer in Aryans from 1947...you are the ones that these people want dead or dumb. Do you understand that? Liberal or conservative, you die just the same. Radical Islamic and CIA funded terrorist groups are real. They want to kill or silence you.
Yet most of you attack the very people who are trying to protect and defend their globalist partners from the scrutiny of the American public and the rest of the World.


What’s wrong with this picture?

Edited for spelling and content

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Billy Joe McAllister
Muppets are people too


249 posts, Jan 2003

posted 02-13-2003 04:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Billy Joe McAllister     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, all that needs to be said about Gas, has been summed up right there in his own commentary, don’t ya think? I think all rational people can see that Gas here is severely challenged by truth and reality, without a detailed response from me pointing out the obvious, so I’ll just let his words speak for themselves on this one.

There is only one way to have peace and a terrorist free world again, and that is to destroy the radical Islamic terrorists, and those who harbor them and supply them with biological and radiological weapons. Isolate the true cause of the threat, and destroy it. Simple logic 101. (maybe Gas missed that class)

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Mech
Resisting the NWO


Northeast USA
3907 posts, Sep 2002

posted 02-13-2003 04:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mech   Visit Mech's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
BOOGA! BOOGA!

There is a terrorist in your soup Swamp.

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theseeker
One moon circles


Damnit...I'm a doctor jim
3297 posts, Jul 2000

posted 02-13-2003 05:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for theseeker   Visit theseeker's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hey mech I guess all those palestinians exploding killing israelis are really just clones grown from vegetable fiber controlled by arafat from remote...

yeah...that's the ticket...

does anyone have the terroist list of hits from the past 10 years or so ? I lost it...

btw, homeland security was the democrats idea not bush's...he didn't want it...

oh yeah and here's reason #1 that your interested only in your anarchist agenda your NOT unbias or anywhere near fair minded...if you were you would have posted this article....

http://www.startribune.com/stories/587/3647992.html


say cheese mech

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Mech
Resisting the NWO


Northeast USA
3907 posts, Sep 2002

posted 02-13-2003 06:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mech   Visit Mech's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
BOOGA BOOGA!!

Better get some duct tape Seeker.

The REPUBLICAN MAJORITY and the few Democrats passed the Patriot act and all the other UNCONSTITUTIONAL laws Bush wanted.

Nice try...But they are all still TRAITORS.

PS: CONSTITUTIONALIST....not Anarchist.

BOOGA! BOOGA!

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FLKook
Chemspiracy Realist


East Central Florida
1388 posts, Apr 2001

posted 02-13-2003 07:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FLKook     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
T/S I don't doubt that the House and Senate are against it, but when did that ever stop the pentegon from doing what they want anyway under cover? The fact that they are attempting to do it in the light of day makes me curious to what is already going on un beknownst to the public.

I'm sure it's all for our own good though.

It's like with their weapons, they always say their working toward this or that when they already have it.

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Perspective
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3 posts, Feb 2003

posted 02-13-2003 10:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Perspective     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Billy Joe McAllister:
Some things are exactly what they seem. Yes, Islamofachists out there really do want to kill you and take down your government and way of life, just like Hamas and Islamic Jihad want Israel to die. You are the infidel. No matter whether you are Christian or Bhudist or believer in Aliens from the third moon of Chronos ...you are the ones that these people want dead. Do you understand that? Liberal or conservative, you die just the same. Radical Islamic terrorist groups are real. They want to kill you.

Yet most of you attack the very people who are trying to protect and defend this nation from the people who are trying to destroy it, both domestic and abroad.

What’s wrong with this picture?


What's wrong with it, indeed. You left out facts that imperliastic forces at home have trained, supplied, and financed some of these high profile extremists. Boo hoo, you want me to worry about that? I'd be more worried about right-wingers at home, and those that wear the badge of.. whatever it is they do. It certainly isn't to prevent crimes.

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theseeker
One moon circles


Damnit...I'm a doctor jim
3297 posts, Jul 2000

posted 02-14-2003 12:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for theseeker   Visit theseeker's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
mech you've said at least a million times that they all need to be removed from office...and that would be anarchy...sheesh...

ever thought about crapping the 6 or 7 grand and buying an island out in the pacific somewhere ?

my home is already sealed enough for trouble, though it is sealed for energy savings...mainly...

and real men already have a few rolls of duct tape flyin around...

sheesh x 2

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posted 02-14-2003 12:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Perspective     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anarchy is definetly my bag.. where are these fabricated islands we are always told to go to?

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