posted 02-14-2003 01:31 PM               

DC Talk, Phil Keaggy, Michael W. Smith, Steven Curtis Chapman, Petra, ETW, The Newsboys, Skillet, Leanne Rimes, Brian White, Mercy Me, Carmen, Bob Carlisle, Third Day, Jars of Clay, Jennifer Knapp, Nicole Nordeman, Al Denson, Sonic Flood... The list goes on I'm sure and I've seen a few of these more then once. AND NO I'M NOT SHELTERED!!!

Jits

posted 02-14-2003 03:58 PM            

jitsu, jars of clay is a really good band...Christian rock is better than any pop out now...that's for sure....

~flood~

posted 02-14-2003 07:28 PM            

For the others out there who either have a bad memory, or were too young to live through time like these.

I was Nixon volunteer in 1968 & personally knew the guys who burned the Nixon campaign HQ in Phx the day before Nixon gave his first famous "Law & Order" speech.
The HQ had just been piled high with newspapers and campaign literature, cans of "spare gas" for campaign workers cars were sitting beside a desk, behind the plate glass window.
Each young Republican involved got paid one one hundred dollar bill. (brand new, with consecutive serial numbers)
Nixon used the incident as an example of how Liberals have no respect for Law & Order.
No Democrats were involved.
Orders were given by- and coverup conducted by- Nixon campaign honchos.
I've believed in conspiracies ever since.
____________________

October 8, 1971: Nixon, Ehrlichman, and Richard Helms, 10:58 A.M-12:12 P.M.,
Oval Office
Conversation #587-7; cassette #1251
>Nixon: Now, when you get into the dirty tricks department. . . what you're probably really concerned about. . . . and I well understand. I know what happened in Iran. And I also know what happened in Guatemala.
Helms: Sure.
Nixon: And I totally approved of both. And I also know what happened in the planning of the Bay of Pigs under Eisenhower - I totally approved of it.
Nixon: . . And we've done a lot of things - you know, about the Menu stuff. You know
about, uh, the things that we've tried. . .
Nixon: Listen, I've done more than my share of lying protection . I believe it's totally right to do it. . .Second, I believe in dirty tricks. I think you've got to do it <
Anthony Summers, "The Arrogance of Power: The Secret World of Richard Nixon", p.332-333
_________________

There are many truths of which the full meaning cannot be realized until personal experience has brought it home.--John Stuart Mill
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After the 1967 Montery Pops concert, all others were just minor events with a very few performers.
Altamont was lots of fun though.
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visit link for full song: http://www.steppenwolf.com/s/w/songfly?YrM2Nvq5;CD121:1188;92
>Monster)
Once the religious, the hunted and weary
Chasing the promise of freedom and hope
Came to this country to build a new vision
Far from the reaches of kingdom and pope
Like good Christians, some would burn the witches
Later some got slaves to gather riches<
>And though the past has it's share of injustice
Kind was the spirit in many a way
But it's protectors and friends have been sleeping
Now it's a monster and will not obey

(Suicide)
The spirit was freedom and justice
And it's keepers seem generous and kind
It's leaders were supposed to serve the country
But now they won't pay it no mind
'Cause the people grew fat and got lazy
And now their vote is a meaningless joke
They babble about law and order
But it's all just an echo of what they've been told
Yeah, there's a monster on the loose
It's got our heads into a noose
And it just sits there watchin'

Our cities have turned into jungles
And corruption is stranglin' the land
The police force is watching the people
And the people just can't understand
We don't know how to mind our own business
'Cause the whole worlds got to be just like us
Now we are fighting a war over there
No matter who's the winner
We can't pay the cost
'Cause there's a monster on the loose
It's got our heads into a noose
And it just sits there watching

(America)
America where are you now?
Don't you care about your sons and daughters?
Don't you know we need you now
We can't fight alone against the monster<

Prophetic words?
Or a similar out of control government trampling on our liberty while staging faked 'terror' events to distract us?

Blame Clinton also if you want,
Johnson had a hand in developing Nixon's nightmarish police state too.
(Gulf of Tonkin- was clearly "Northwoods" for example)

If you don't believe in conspiracies you have no knowlege of history.

From the world's First Rap Song
"Subterranean Homesick Blues" Bob Dylan
visit link for whole song: http://www.slopbucket.com/bob/lyrics/5subter.html
>I'm on the pavement
Thinking about the government
The man in the trench coat
Badge out, laid off
Says he's got a bad cough
Wants to get it paid off
Look out kid
It's somethin' you did
God knows when
But you're doin' it again<
>Keep a clean nose
Watch the plain clothes
You don't need a weather man
To know which way the wind blows<
>Look out kid
They keep it all hid<
In memoriam to members of the Weather Underground who vanished without a trace,
July 4, 1976; (run over by a Ford) while all US media focused attention on a small airport in Uganda.

If you don't believe in conspiracies you have no knowlege of history.

People on the internet have just successfully helped President Chirac and President Putin to stand up to the bully on the block and say NO to Bush's "Poland"(Iraq).
They sat back as Bush's "Czechslovakia"(Afghanistan)campaign took place.

Because of the internet, even Americans are beginning to ask:
"Since Saudis hijacked airplanes on 9/11; why aren't we attacking Saudi Arabia?
Because of the internet, people are aware that Bush the first used falsified "evidence" to justify the first Gulf War.
(the one that inspired the movie "Wag the Dog") http://foi.missouri.edu/polinfoprop/nocasusbelli.html
1990 Wag the Gulf One:
>By the early weeks of September, America and Britain were leading the march towards war. Somehow, almost without anybody noticing, the agenda was changing. Iraqi withdrawal from Kuwait alone was no longer acceptable. New resolutions had been adopted by the UN security council

The photographs, which are still classified in the US (for security reasons, according to Brent Scowcroft, President Bush senior's national security advisor), purportedly showed more than a quarter of a million Iraqi troops massed on the Saudi border poised to pounce. Except, when a resourceful Florida-based reporter at the St Petersburg Times persuaded her newspaper to buy the same independently commissioned satellite photos from a commercial satellite to verify the Pentagon's line, she saw no sign of a quarter of a million troops or their tanks.
<

and that recent "evidence" was also faked, yet the Administration does an encore: http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2002/11/30/1038386358602.html
>Bin Laden terror tape a fake, say experts
By Brian Whitaker
December 1 2002
The Sun-Herald
Scientists in Switzerland say they believe that a recent audio tape attributed to terrorist leader Osama bin Laden is probably a fake.
The tape, delivered to the Arab satellite television channel al-Jazeera a few weeks ago, appeared to provide the first concrete evidence that bin Laden was still alive because it mentioned recent attacks on Western targets. Prime Minister John Howard said US intelligence had determined that the voice on the broadcast was that of bin Laden. The message implied that the Bali bombings were targeted against Australians and had been planned to exact revenge for Australia's "anti-Muslim" involvement in East Timor and Afghanistan.
"The authenticity is certainly questionable, there is doubt," said Professor Herve Bourlard, head of Swiss voice research institute IDIAP.
The institute, which uses computerised statistical models, compared 90 minutes of known recordings of bin Laden's voice with the new tape which was first aired by the al-Jazeera station.<

You won't hear the truth on your evening news.

posted 02-14-2003 07:35 PM            

I doubt it...

posted 02-14-2003 08:18 PM            

You ignore that the "Dixiecrats", the most unscroupulous southern bigot Democrats were driven out of that party by Civil Rights.
Many of them gained influence in Nixon's GOP and became leaders. (Strom Thurmond, Phil Gramm, John Tower, who then turned that party just as corrupt as the one they left.

I accept that Democrats are still corrupt.
Otherwise they could have passed "Nixon's Health Insurance For All Americans" plan;

(Which Hillary dusted off and put her hubby's name on the cover of.)

The difference today is that sans (my-man-Slick) Democrats have no leader, and they never did lock step to the orders of leaders like Republicans do.

Someone asked Will Rogers:
"Do you belong to any organized political party?"
He answered, quite truthfully: "Hell no. I'm a Democrat!"

Democrats voted overwhelmingly for Bush's unconstitutional USA Patriot Act.

Only a few like Senator Dorgan opposed it.

what were Democrats doing during the Nixon monster years?
Either going along with Nixon or dying.

Deja vu:

“I DON'T KNOW WHETHER I WAS TARGETED, BUT I certainly know that human rights activists are targeted,”“It’s a small story that tells the larger story of what’s happening..." THE LATE SENATOR PAUL WELLSTONE commenting on reports that he was the target of an assassination attempt in December 2000.

"tinfoil hat" coincidence theorists should face reality-

In politics, nothing happens by accident. If it happened, you can bet it was planned that way.
Franklin Delano Roosevelt

posted 02-14-2003 08:27 PM            

do racists marry outside their race shatoga ?

>>>democrats don't lock step with a leader...

roosvelt,kennedy,johnson,clinton...the *poor* demonrats ran this country for 40 years you twit !

and after all that horse manure shatoga...I was right....you have no idea what the democrats were doing...

man can't you anti-American scum come up with a truthful substantive argument ?

guess not

posted 02-14-2003 08:38 PM            

One thing is for certain.. won't defend either because they are 100% corrupt and have riuned this country.

It's up to all of us to pick up the pieces.

Just my 2 cents...sorry for interfering.

posted 02-14-2003 10:18 PM               

Speaking of interesting lyrics, check this out.

Mike and Mechanics

Silent Running (Rutherford/Robertson)
Take the children and yourself
And hide out in the cellar
By now the fighting will be close at hand
Don't believe the church and state
And everything they tell you
Believe in me, I'm with the high command

Can you hear me, can you hear me running?
Can you hear me running, can you hear me calling you?
Can you hear me, can you hear me running?
Can you hear me running, can you hear me calling you?

There's a gun and ammunition
Just inside the doorway
Use it only in emergency
Better you should pray to God
The Father and the Spirit
Will guide you and protect from up here

Can you hear me, can you hear me running?
Can you hear me running, can you hear me calling you?
Can you hear me, can you hear me running?
Can you hear me running, can you hear me calling you?

Swear allegiance to the flag
Whatever flag they offer
Never hint at what you really feel
Teach the children quietly
For some day sons and daughters
Will rise up and fight while we stood still

Can you hear me, can you hear me running?
Can you hear me running, can you hear me calling you?
Can you hear me, can you hear me running?
Can you hear me running, can you hear me calling you?

Can you hear me running (can you hear me calling you?)
(Can you hear me) hear me calling you?
(Can you hear me running) hear me running babe?
(Can you hear me running) hear me running?
Calling you, calling you

Interesting isn't it? This part, "Teach the children quietly
For some day sons and daughters
Will rise up and fight while we stood still," at least the "stood still" parts describes perfectly the state we're in today...

Anyway, I'm sure many of you know this song, just thought it was interesting. It was on their 1985 album and on top of that, the song was a huge hit, but I guess nobody really listened to it?

Jits

posted 02-15-2003 01:07 AM            

Try to post like I do and see if your computer puts obstacles in you path like mine does.

Clinton's lackeys prosecuted Bill Gates and conservatives praise Bill Gates.

Try opposing the interests of Bill Gates & see how well your computer works.

posted 02-15-2003 01:49 AM            

that in mind...your equating your "obstacles" as proof as the *hunted*....when it's your own ignorance that is really holding you back...

I never have a trouble...and I don't see any reason to comment on the rest of your post, filthy as it be...is indicative of the last resort of an exhausted liberal mind...

can we get back to music ?

posted 02-15-2003 04:33 PM            

I work for a MAJOR chip manufacturer, you guess the name, in the multimedia dept. We use all 2x processor Macs, running OSX. No TCPA/Palldium, no crashes, so when I have an audio and video file both rendering, I can check the web. Steve Jobs said adamently that Macs and Linux will NOT run the Homeland Security back door DLL, that XP and W2000 run. I think it's called "adavpi.dll", or something similar. Got thst straight from the IT dept. There's even talk of an alternative WWW. Look up TCPA/PALLADIUM to see the awful truth. So screw Gates , his surveillence, and his inferior products.

http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/tcpa-faq.html

posted 03-29-2004 12:28 PM            

There's something happening here
What it is ain't exactly clear
There's a man with a gun over there
Telling me I got to beware
I think it's time we stop, children, what's that sound
Everybody look what's going down

/ E - A - / / / / E D A C /

There's battle lines being drawn
Nobody's right if everybody's wrong
Young people speaking their minds
Getting so much resistance from behind
I think it's time we stop, hey, what's that sound
Everybody look what's going down

What a field-day for the heat
A thousand people in the street
Singing songs and carrying signs
Mostly say, hooray for our side
It's time we stop, hey, what's that sound
Everybody look what's going down

Paranoia strikes deep
Into your life it will creep
It starts when you're always afraid
You step out of line, the man come and take you away

We better stop, hey, what's that sound
Everybody look what's going down
Stop, hey, what's that sound
Everybody look what's going down
Stop, now, what's that sound
Everybody look what's going down
Stop, children, what's that sound
Everybody look what's going down
<

"That sound" was the sound of guns, as National Guardsmen murdered anti-war protestors http://www.spectacle.org/595/kent.html
>Kent State, May 4, 1970: America Kills Its Children<
>The first day, there was some brutality; the Guard bayonetted two men, one a disabled veteran, who had cursed or yelled at them from cars. The following day, May 4th, the Guard, commanded with an amazing lack of military judgment, marched down a hill, to a field in the middle of angry demonstrators, then back up again. Seconds before they would have passed around the corner of a large building, and out of sight of the crowd, many of the Guardsmen wheeled and fired directly into the students, hitting thirteen, killing four of them, pulling the trigger over and over, for thirteen seconds. (Count out loud--one Mississippi, two Mississippi, to see how long this is.) Guardsmen--none of whom were later punished, civilly, administratively, or criminally--admitted firing at specific unarmed targets; one man shot a demonstrator who was giving him the finger. The closest student shot was fully sixty feet away; all but one were more than 100 feet away; all but two were more than 200 feet away. One of the dead was 255 feet away; the rest were 300 to 400 feet away. The most distant student shot was more than 700 feet from the Guardsmen. <
http://sf.indymedia.org/news/2003/05/1607707.php
http://www.nioncleveland.org/youth/LongLivetheSpiritofKentandJacksonState.pdf

What were the Democrats doing?
divided as always/ bickering amongst themselves/ as always.

>The 1970 campaign was waged against a background of great political turbulence, as the Democratic Party, the state, and the nation were rocked by deep and bitter divisions over the increasingly unpopular Vietnam War. The divisiveness frequently spilled over into street protests in Seattle and across the country, reaching a crescendo in May following President Richard M. Nixon’s (1913-1994) announcement that the U.S. military would enter Cambodia. The Cambodia incursion triggered massive demonstrations, and the killings of four anti-war protestors at Kent State in Ohio and two demonstrators at Jackson State in Mississippi led to even greater protests.<
http://www.washington.historylink.org/output.cfm?file_id=5585

And, as always, (IMHO) two dead black students at Jackson State get little mention, while four dead white students at Ohio State get top billing.

And, as always, 'the band plays on' as history repeats...
www.english.uiuc.edu/maps/vietnam/antiwar.html