posted 02-21-2003 10:50 PM               

War and Emergency Powers

posted 02-22-2003 12:43 AM            

Massive Concentration of power and wealth in the hands of a few, spiderwebs of corruption, mass incompetance, a controlled news media, a heavy militarized police state, domestic spying on dissidents....ad nauseaum.

I think it would be exactly the same wether it had an Al Gore face or Bush Jr face...with perhaps some "window dressing" to give the appearance that they are different instead of the globalist NWO SCUM that they are.

posted 02-22-2003 11:51 PM               

The way it is: The banks are in control of the government (Federal reserve), the government is in control of the people (controlled media, FEMA, office of homeland security).

The chain of command has been reversed.

posted 02-23-2003 09:27 PM            

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United States Congressional Record January 19, 1976, page 240, Representative Marjorie S. Holt (Maryland):

"Mr. Speaker, many of us recently received a letter from the World Affairs Council of Philadelphia, inviting members of Congress to participate in a ceremonial signing of "A Declaration of Interdependence" on January 30 in Congress Hall, adjacent to Independence Hall in Philadelphia.

A number of Members of Congress have been invited to sign this document, lending their prestige to its theme, but I want the record to show my strong opposition to this declaration.

It calls for the surrender of our national sovereignty to international organizations. It declares that our economy should be regulated by international authorities. It proposes that we enter a "New World Order" that would redistribute the wealth created by the American people.

Mr. Speaker, this is an obscenity that defiles our Declaration of Independence, signed 200 years ago in Philadelphia. We fought a great Revolution for independence and individual liberty, but now it is proposed that we participate in a world socialist order.

Are we a proud and free people, or are we a carcass to be picked by the jackals of the world, who want to destroy us? When one cuts through the high-flown rhetoric of this "Declaration of Interdependence," one finds key phrases that tell the story.

For example, it states that 'The economy of all nations is a seamless web, and that no one nation can any longer effectively maintain its processes of production and monetary systems without recognizing the necessity for collaborative regulation by international authorities.' How do you like the idea of "international authorities" controlling our production and our monetary system, Mr. Speaker?

How could any American dedicated to our national independence and freedom tolerate such an idea? . . . America should never subject her fate to decisions by such an assembly, unless we long for national suicide. Instead, let us have independence and freedom . . . If we surrender our independence to a "new world order" . . . we will be betraying our historic ideals of freedom and self-government. Freedom and self-government are not outdated. The fathers of our Republic fought a revolution for those ideals, which are as valid today as they ever were. Let us not betray freedom by embracing slave masters; let us not betray self-government with world government; let us celebrate Jefferson and Madison, not Marx and Lenin."

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posted 03-25-2003 03:24 AM            

there's some truth here boys and girls....legs to the thread I add...

Whose the biggest threat to the U.S ?

By: Jim Moore

You think that's a trick question. Sorry, it's not. Saddam Hussein, the mustachioed, rifle-shooting, two-bit dictator of Iraq, would boil you in oil if he could, but he won't be around much longer.

Whereas, Dr..Carroll Quigley, world-famous historian who died in 1973, will be around, in spirit if not in body, for decades to come. And that's cause for alarm. Why? Because of his ideological adherence to, and solid support of a worldwide "network" of elite conspirators with enough power, influence, and money to eventually control the world.

America included.

If that's true, and it is, why then in 1973 did Quigley, one of the "insiders", write his 1,300-page book, "Tragedy and Hope", a stunning expose of one of the best kept secrets in the world? Why would he disclose the existence and inner working of this mammoth power network of elite money manipulators, with which he hobnobbed , when he knew it would stir up resistance in the millions of people who are its intended victims?

The answer is deceptively simple. Quigley says, in effect, that it is now too late for the 'little people' to turn the tide. So, in a "spirit of kindness" he urges them (us) not to fight the noose which is already around our necks. If we do, Quigley says, we will choke ourselves to death.

In other words, to the consternation of its wealthy members, Quigley thought it was time for the "conspiracy" to come out of hiding and make its existence, and its intentions, known to the world. Those, he says, who "go along" will eventually find themselves in a kind of nirvana; a man-made millennium of peace and prosperity.

How so? Because, Quigley assures us, we can trust these benevolent, well-meaning men secretly operating behind the curtain. They are the HOPE of the world.. All who resist, make up the TRAGEDY. Hence, the title of his book.

As you might suspect, the secretive cabal capable of "controlling the world" are not farmers or bricklayers or truck drivers. They are not doctors, lawyers, politicians, or merchants.. Or even scientists, theologians, or philosophers.

They are International Bankers.

And Dr. Quigley tells us that the true dimension of their whole scheme is better appreciated when you realize that the far-reaching aim of the "dynastic" bankers is to create a world system of FINANCIAL CONTROL IN PRIVATE HANDS, able to dominate the political direction of each country, and formulate elite planning for World Management.

Phyllis Schlafly, in 1971,while Quigley was still living, wrote the following report on Carroll Quigley's book:

"Dr. Quigley is an authority on the world's secret power structures because he is one of the "network." He boasts he has been associated with many of the dynamic families of the super rich. He approves of their power, influence, and activities. . "To assure his qualifications for writing this book, Dr. Quigley said: 'I know of the operation of this network because I have studied it for 20 years, and was permitted for two years, in the 1960's, to examine its papers and secret records. I have no aversion to it and most of its aims, and have for much of my life been close to it and many of its instruments. I have objected in the past to a few of its policies, but in general, my chief difference of opinion is that it wishes to remain unknown, is significant enough to be known.'

"Who is really running things in America?" Ms. Schlafly asks. "What is the hidden, powerful source that seems to control U.S, policy no matter who is elected? The overwhelming majority of Americans oppose foreign giveaways-who is the hidden force that persuades Congress to give at least $10 billion in foreign giveaways year after year after year-in direct opposition to the wishes of their constituents?"

The ponderous tome, "Tragedy and Hope". which you'll need a forklift to pick up, very explicitly reveals Dr, Quigley's pride at being a member of this secret power group of super-rich banking dynasties. Moreover, he believed its cloak of secrecy was no longer necessary.

To the contrary, Quigley said they should receive credit for what they have done----which we now know has been largely responsible for a massive movement toward the consolidation of world financial power in the hands of a few.

Dr. Carroll Quigley may have been the youngest graduate Harvard ever had--and Bill Clinton's mentor-- but his dedication to the world's secret money powers has done, and is doing, more to disrupt America's financial stability, political viability, and the principles of freedom than Saddam Hussein ever could.

posted 03-25-2003 09:19 AM               

America has to stop being a consumer nation, constantly chasing after bigger better faster more things we don't really need.

Would require a MAJOR change in the lifestyle of the many.
And a return to the gold standard, a self imposed one most likely.

posted 03-28-2003 09:54 AM               

Guess it's called socialisim for a reason!

I'm sure that will come back to haunt me in an out of context quote some day

/chuckle

posted 03-28-2003 04:55 PM            

They wouldn't tolerate mass round-ups

Along with many veterans.