posted 02-22-2003 01:21 AM            

MONSANTO'S WEB OF DECEIT

>"Anti-GMO (genetically modified organism) scientists and activists are increasingly having their credibility attacked through a campaign orchestrated by the biotech industry," investigative reporter Andy Rowell writes. In two in-depth stories Rowell and Jonathan Matthews, of Norfolk Genetic Information Network, examine the dirty tricks Monsanto has played to promote its gene altered food. Employing an international PR firm called the Bivings Group who specialize in "internet advocacy," Monsanto has trashed peer-reviewed scientific research to undermine and manipulate the scientific debate on genetic engineering.<
source:
Center for Media & Democracy
>Two weeks ago, this column showed how the Bivings Group, a PR company contracted to Monsanto, had invented fake citizens to post messages on internet listservers. These phantoms had launched a campaign to force Nature magazine to retract a paper it had published, alleging that native corn in Mexico had been contaminated with GM pollen. But this, it now seems, is just one of hundreds of critical interventions with which PR companies hired by big business have secretly guided the biotech debate over the past few years.
While I was writing the last piece, Bivings sent me an email fiercely denying that it had anything to do with the fake correspondents "Mary Murphy" and "Andura Smetacek", who started the smear campaign against the Nature paper. Last week I checked the email's technical properties. They contained the identity tag "bw6.bivwood.com". The message came from the same computer terminal that "Mary Murphy" has used. New research coordinated by the campaigner Jonathan Matthews appears to have unmasked the fake persuaders: "Mary Murphy" is being posted by a Bivings web designer, writing from both the office and his home computer in Hyattsville, Maryland; while "Andura Smetacek" appears to be the company's chief internet marketer. Not long ago, the website slashdot.com organised a competition for hackers: if they could successfully break into a particular server, they got to keep it. Several experienced hackers tested their skills. One of them was one using a computer identified as bw6.bivwood.com.
Though someone in the Bivings office appears to possess hacking skills, there is no evidence that Bivings has ever made use of them. But other biotech lobbyists do appear to have launched hacker attacks. Just before the paper in Nature was publicly challenged, the server hosting the accounts used by its authors was disabled by a particularly effective attack which crippled their capacity to fight back. The culprit has yet to be identified. Bivings is the secret author of several of the websites and bogus citizens' movements which have been coordinating campaigns against environmentalists.
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>Bivings is just one of several public relations agencies secretly building a parallel world on the web. Another US company, Berman & Co, runs a fake public interest site called ActivistCash.com, which seeks to persuade the foundations giving money to campaigners to desist. Berman also runs the "Centre for Consumer Freedom", which looks like a citizens' group but lobbies against smoking bans, alcohol restrictions and health warnings on behalf of tobacco, drinks and fast food companies. The marketing firm Nichols Dezenhall set up a site called StopEcoViolence, another "citizens' initiative", demonising activists. In March, Nichols Dezenhall linked up with Prakash's collaborator, the Competitive Enterprise Institute, to sponsor a conference for journalists and corporate executives on "eco-extremism".
What is fascinating about these websites, fake groups and phantom citizens is that they have either smelted or honed all the key weapons currently used by the world's biotech enthusiasts: the conflation of activists with terrorists, the attempts to undermine hostile research, the ever more nuanced claims that those who resist GM crops are anti-science and opposed to the interests of the poor. The hatred directed at activists over the past few years is, in other words, nothing of the kind. We have been confronted, in truth, by the crafted response of an industry without emotional attachment.
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When police interrogate suspects;
they follow a rule:
"Catch them in one lie, and their whole story falls apart."
That one lie?
That there are no professional (debunkers)advocates posting for pay.
BS!
>a stereotype of a PR man -- overtalking, evading questions, tossing out confusing scientific terms, qualifying every answer.<

>30 PR firms are jumping on the online bandwagon,<
Of course there are always the thousands of zealots who volunteer their time and effort:

posted 02-22-2003 01:45 AM            

* The St. Petersburg Times disproved the report of satellite photos showing a thousand Iraqi tanks amassing on the Saudi border.

* April Glaspie, US Ambassador, gave tacit approval to Saddam Hussein to invade Iraq by saying, “We have no opinion on…your border dispute with Kuwait.”

* John Shalikashvilli, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and William Perry, Secretary of Defense wrote in a memo (obtained by the AGWVA) on May 25, 1994, “There is no information, classified or unclassified that indicates that chemical or biological weapons were used in the Persian Gulf.” General Norman Schwartzkopf’s NBC (nuclear, biological and chemical) logs (also obtained by the AGWVA) dated Feb. 27, 1991, and March 3, 1991, clearly disprove the above statement.

One veteran has now stepped forward and given a detailed account of how he and others in special teams, moved forward of the front, (behind enemy lines ahead of US forces), and then set charges on the well heads. “We were mustered into the briefing tent at which point a gentleman whom I first had thought to be an American began to brief us on the operation. I was concerned because he was not wearing a US uniform and insignias.”

The information provided over a series of meetings with this veteran corroborates reports from other veterans who are totally unconnected with this individual. This testimony brings into serious question the integrity of the US government, as it provided information to the American public and military during the last Gulf War.
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-The Truth is Out There-
And so are professionals working for PR firms, who spin the web of deceit.

As my first post indicates- they've taken it to a new level.

(personal note: At a meeting of volunteers to campaign for a Republican Senator;
"Who here has a computer?"
Those of us who raised our hands were taken to another room,
given a short course;
sent home with lists of phone numbers for talk shows, URL's for websites and "talking points"

Never had proof that any such organized campaign (to overwhelm the media) until yesterday, when I found the articles posted above.
After 10 years of being called a liar because I told the truth.

There are paid professionals organizing internet advocates, providing talking points and giving training in how to use strawmen, insults, and other tricks to debate anyone who threatens to expose the truth.
Such as those who tell us the Canadian government's lab analysis of chemtrails should be ignored etc.

"And the one man that dares to tell the truth
is called at once a lunatic and fool"
-- Plato.

posted 02-22-2003 02:00 AM            

Do a google search! http://www.google.com/

For any subject, a google search will yield many times the links 'microslop search' gives.
http://www.google.com/

plug in any name given by anyone and get dozens of URL's with information pro and con.

eg: First result of a google search for "the Bivings Group" will give you the company's website.

Personally, I usually read twenty or more pages of websites slants on any topic, before forming an opinion;

Re read the article in my first post carefully to note they caught Bivings using fradulent methods.
Do you really think Bivings will admit to that?

posted 02-22-2003 02:18 AM            

I know folks who enjoy taking legal action on PR firms such as the one you refer to, was just hoping you could save me some time, as you have already done the research and would possibly have links handy vice me having to reinvent the wheel.

I don't like fish much, full of mercury and cruise ship sewage, nasty stuff anymore.
Poor fishies.

posted 02-23-2003 12:35 AM            

It's just like google search of "archived pages" which I use to read "excised" web pages.
Who cares about the cookies?
The feds (bushistas these days) computers read every keystroke and webpage as we do.
Heaven help us when they have enough zealots to moniter each of US instead of computers watching for keywords or phrases.

(Like AOL guides for everyone/ deciding what you can post, where you can go and what you can see/ a conservatives' paradise)

My history:
At a meeting of campaign volunteers (1992) for a Republican Senator;
"Does anyone own a computer?" he followed with
"Raise your hand."

We got taken to another room and taught how to "overwhelm the media to make it look like there are more of us than there really are."
We went home with lists of phone numbers of talk shows, URL's call dump times, and "talking points".
That was the seed of discontent that ended with me leaving the cult that uses such disinformation tactics on a daily basis.

posted 02-23-2003 09:41 PM            

quote:

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(Like AOL guides for everyone/ deciding what you can post, where you can go and what you can see/ a conservatives' paradise)

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posted 02-24-2003 10:10 AM            

quote:

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Originally posted by FLKook:
Whoa Nelly! A true conservative upholds our beloved constitution at gun point if necessary and against other conservatives to boot. Don't buy the left/right paradigm trap set by the globalist controlled media. A conservative is not a tyrannical fascist.

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Ahhh!!
The good old days when I could be a proud Goldwater conservative.
and harbor the fantasy that one party alone supported our Constitution.

Reality knocks!

alas!
Long gone "I didn't leave them; they left me."
Barry in 1993 explaining why the (R) had cast him out for such heresies as:
Quotes from Goldwater:
"Every good Christian should line up and kick Jerry Falwell's ass."
"I don't have any respect for the Religious Right."
"The religious factions will go on imposing their will on others,"
"Gays have as much right to die for their country as anyone else."

Like Barry, I stood still and found myself in the midst of centrists,
and like Barry,
found myself disgusted by the people who would keep silent while the USA PAtriot Act suspends the Constitution and Bill of Rights.
Just because people with an (R) next to their name did it!

The letter next to a name is unimportant when it's is so clear that
this is just plain wrong!
and clearly un-Constitutional.

Speak up and be a Patriot by opposing the police state
or keep silent and be a one party rule police state advocate.

This goes beyone partisan politics.
Oppose loss of Liberty or zieg heil.

Bill of Rights or police state/

No other choice.

posted 04-26-2003 12:13 AM            

anyone know of any bushista ever being hacked?

posted 04-26-2003 12:27 AM            

say what ?

what is it with you swapgasbag types that supposedly have things happen to them...because of your beliefs and practices...

I'm willing to bet wisecrapper's rabbit deal the mace bobB's contraption on his brakes your intruder....all random unfortunate or misconscrewed incidents...

get a dog

buy a gun

liberals play the blame game far to often...

sometimes shit really does happen !

also there leadernitz...I had my machine comprimised which ultimately cost me some cash...

was that because of my beliefs and the men in black tried to get me ?

or just some really ignorant bastard that has no life and gets his jollys via electronic media...

wake up

posted 04-26-2003 01:36 PM            

Sounds just like you and mech there shitoga, ask a question and you get buried in cut and paste wasteland. You two haven't answered a question straight up since I've been posting here. You sidestep a question at every chance and spread your propagandist bullshit to all who believe it.

Funny thing, I went to the airport to catch a glimpse of our President here the other day and I must say that the supporters for our President far outweighed those opposed to him. Ya know what?, makes me believe in him and his policies even more.

I disagree on the cuts to veterans benefits and have sent letters to the appropriate people, but all in all this man is doing a great job of running this country

posted 04-26-2003 02:29 PM            

B-a-a-a-a-a!! Follow the leader...SHEEP!

OPERATION MOCKINGBIRD

CIA MEDIA MANIPULATION

Operation Mockingbird: CIA Media Manipulation

By Mary Louise

The CIA's secret activities, covert missions, and connections of control are all done under the pretense and protection of national security with no accountability whatsoever, at least in their minds. Considering the public is held accountable for everything we think, say, and do there is something seriously wrong with this picture. The CIA is the President's secret army, who have been and continue to be conveniently above the law with unlimited power and authority, to conduct a reign of terror around the globe.

The "old boy network" of socializing, talking shop, and tapping each other for favors outside the halls of government made it inevitable that the CIA and Corporate America would become allies, thus the systematic infiltration and takeover of the media.

Under the guise of 'American' objectives and lack of congressional oversight, the CIA accomplish their exploits by using every trick in the book (and they know quite a few) that they actually teach in the notorious "School of the Americas", nicknamed the "School of Dictators" and "School of Assassins" by critics. The Association for Responsible Dissent estimates that 6 million people had died by 1987 as a result of CIA covert operations, called an "American Holocaust" by former State Department official William Blum. In 1948, the CIA recreated its covert action wing called the Office of Policy Coordination with Wall Street lawyer Frank Wisner as its first director. Another early elitist who served as Director of the CIA from 1953 to 1961 was Allen Dulles, a senior partner at the Wall Street firm of Sullivan and Cromwell, which represented the Rockefeller empire and other trusts, corporations, and cartels.

Starting in the early days of the Cold War (late 40's), the CIA began a secret project called Operation Mockingbird, with the intent of buying influence behind the scenes at major media outlets and putting reporters on the CIA payroll, which has proven to be a stunning ongoing success. The CIA effort to recruit American news organizations and journalists to become spies and disseminators of propaganda, was headed up by Frank Wisner, Allen Dulles, Richard Helms, and Philip Graham (publisher of The Washington Post). Wisner had taken Graham under his wing to direct the program code-named Operation Mockingbird and both have presumably committed suicide.

Media assets will eventually include ABC, NBC, CBS, Time, Newsweek, Associated Press, United Press International (UPI), Reuters, Hearst Newspapers, Scripps-Howard, Copley News Service, etc. and 400 journalists, who have secretly carried out assignments according to documents on file at CIA headquarters, from intelligence-gathering to serving as go-betweens. The CIA had infiltrated the nation's businesses, media, and universities with tens of thousands of on-call operatives by the 1950's. CIA Director Dulles had staffed the CIA almost exclusively with Ivy League graduates, especially from Yale with figures like George Herbert Walker Bush from the "Skull and Crossbones" Society.

Many Americans still insist or persist in believing that we have a free press, while getting most of their news from state-controlled television, under the misconception that reporters are meant to serve the public. Reporters are paid employees and serve the media owners, who usually cower when challenged by advertisers or major government figures. Robert Parry reported the first breaking stories about Iran-Contra for Associated Press that were largely ignored by the press and congress, then moving to Newsweek he witnessed a retraction of a true story for political reasons. In 'Fooling America: A Talk by Robert Parry' he said, "The people who succeeded and did well were those who didn't stand up, who didn't write the big stories, who looked the other way when history was happening in front of them, and went along either consciously or just by cowardice with the deception of the American people."

Major networks are primarily controlled by giant corporations that are obligated by law, to put the profits of their investors ahead of all other considerations which are often in conflict with the practice of responsible journalism. There were around 50 corporations a couple of decades ago, which was considered monopolistic by many and yet today, these companies have become larger and fewer in number as the biggest ones absorb their rivals. This concentration of ownership and power reduces the diversity of media voices, as news falls into the hands of large conglomerates with holdings in many industries that interferes in newsgathering, because of conflicts of interest. Mockingbird was an immense financial undertaking with funds flowing from the CIA largely through the Congress for Cultural Freedom (CCF) founded by Tom Braden with Pat Buchanon of CNN's Crossfire.

Media corporations share members of the board of directors with a variety of other large corporations including banks, investment companies, oil companies, health care, pharmaceutical, and technology companies. Until the 1980's, media systems were generally domestically owned, regulated, and national in scope. However, pressure from the IMF, World Bank, and US government to deregulate and privatize, the media, communication, and new technology resulted in a global commercial media system dominated by a small number of super-powerful transnational media corporations (mostly US based), working to advance the cause of global markets and the CIA agenda.

The first tier of the nine giant firms that dominate the world are Time Warner/AOL, Disney/ABC, Bertelsmann, Viacom/CBS, Rupert Murdoch's News Corporation/Fox, General Electric/NBC, Sony, Universal/Seagram, Tele-Communications, Inc. or TCI and AT&T. This is just the head of the octopus which has its second and third tier tentacles working together in unison or feigned division. This would include The Washington Post/Newsweek, The New York Times/Weekly Standard, Tribune Co., US News, Gannett/USA Today, Dow Jones/Wall Street Journal, Washington Times, Knight-Ridder, etcetera. A good site to visit for more information is Fairness and Accuracy in Reporting, a public interest media watchdog group, at www.fair.org/index.html, www.fair.org/mediafiles/index.html and www.fair.org/extra/9711/gmg.html. Media propaganda tactics include blackouts, misdirections, expert opinions to echo the Establishment line, smears, defining popular opinions, mass entertainment distractions, and Hobson's Choice (the media presents the so-called conservative and liberal positions).

"Who Controls the Media? The Subversion of the Free Press by the CIA, The Depraved Spies and Moguls of the CIA's Operation Mockingbird", "The CIA: America's Premier International Terrorist Organization", and "Virtual Government: CIA Mind Control Operations in America" by Alex Constantine are an excellent source of information on this topic: www.alexconstantine.50megs.com/the_cia_and.html and www.alexconstantine.50megs.com. David Guyatt has written books and many articles including one entitled "Subverting the Media" at www.deepblacklies.co.uk/subverting_the_media.htm. Then there are two articles called "A Timeline of CIA Atrocities" and "The Origins of the Overclass" by Steve Kangas that are very informative although from a more liberal perspective. Steve will not be writing anymore articles as he is no longer with us, having unfortunately met his untimely death that was 'apparently' from a self-inflicted gunshot wound. If you read about him on his web page that is still available, you will see that he did not seem like a person who was suffering from deep depression. In his memory, please take the time to read what he wrote at www.korpios.org/resurgent/CIAtimeline.html, www.korpios.org/resurgent/CIAtimeline.html, and www.korpios.org/resurgent/index.html.

CNN aired "Valley of Death" in June of 1998 and Time magazine (both owned by Time-Warner) ran a story about a secret mission called Operation Tailwind and the activities of SOG, Studies and Observations Group, a secret elite commando unit of the Army's Special Forces that used lethal nerve gas (sarin), on a mission to Laos designed to kill American defectors. Suddenly the network was awash in denials and the story was hushed up, as usual. Acknowledged use of this gas coming at a time when the U.S. government was trying to get Saddam to comply with weapons inspections, was an embarrassment to say the least. What hypocrisy! Having actually used the weapons on our own troops, then complaining and accusing Saddam of potential use of stored similar weapons, of which some were manufactured in and supplied by the U.S. The broadcast was prepared after exhaustive research and rooted in considerable supportive data. To decide for yourself what the truth is read Floyd Abrams' report on the CNN site at www.cnn.com/US/9807/02/tailwind.findings/index.html.

Journalists Carl Bernstein and Bob Woodward broke the stories on Watergate (late 70's) in the Washington Post, having gained access to what the CIA was trying to keep from congress about its program of using journalists at home and abroad, in deliberate propaganda campaigns. It was later revealed that Woodward was a Naval intelligence briefer to the White House and knew many insiders including General Alexander Haig. A high-level source told Bernstein, "One journalist is worth twenty agents." CFR/Trilateralist Katharine Graham, in a 1988 speech given to senior CIA employees at Agency headquarters said, "We live in a dirty and dangerous world. There are some things the general public does not need to know and shouldn't. I believe democracy flourishes when the government can take legitimate steps to keep its secrets and when the press can decide whether to print what it knows." Maybe that's another reason why folks get the impression that a suspicious agenda lurks behind the headlines. "25 Ways to Suppress Truth: Rules of Disinformation" and "8 Traits of the Disinformationalist" at www.proparanoid.com/truth.htm, sums it up very well.

Ralph McGehee was a CIA agent for 25 years, mainly in South-East Asia where he witnessed bombing and napalming of villages, which caused him to examine closely what the CIA was really all about. He has written about Vietnam's Phoenix Program www.vwip.org/articles/m/McGeheeRalph_VietnamsPhoenixProgram.htm and after a long battle with CIA censors, he published the book "Deadly Deceits" in 1983. Ralph has been harassed by the CIA and FBI, involving bodily injury, and his CIABASE website was shut down on Spring of 2000. He copied some reports that can be found at http://serendipity.magnet.ch/cia/ciabase_report_1.htm (and 2.htm), http://serendipity.magnet.ch/cia/death_squads.htm, and www.thirdworldtraveler.com/CIA/Deadly_Deceits.html. He concluded that the CIA is not now nor has it ever been a central intelligence agency but rather the covert action arm of the President's foreign policy advisors, of which disinformation is a large part of its responsibility and the American people are the primary target of its lies.

One of the primary reasons John F. Kennedy was assassinated had to do with the fact he dared to interfere in the framework of power. Kennedy was intent on exercising his ELECTED powers and not allowing them to be usurped by power-crazed individuals in the intelligence community, threatening to "splinter the CIA in a thousand pieces and scatter it to the wind." There were four things that filled the CIA with rage and sealed his fate; JFK fired Allen Dulles, was in the process of founding a panel to investigate the CIA's numerous crimes, put a damper on the breadth and scope of the CIA, and limited their ability to act under National Security Memoranda 55.

There is such an overwhelming amount of information pertaining to the CIA that it is impossible to cover it all in one book, much less an article. Personally, I have come to the conclusion that the media is not only influenced by the CIA.....the media is the CIA. Many Americans think of their supposedly free press as a watchdog on government, mainly because the press itself shamelessly promotes that myth. One of the first tenets for the control of a population is to control all sources of information the population receives and mostly because of the pervasive CIA and Operation Mockingbird, the mainstream American Press is a controlled multi-national corporate/government megaphone. They are up to their eyeballs in dirty deeds and there will never be an end to the corruption that prevails unless the CIA is abolished. Otherwise, the CIA will just keep on using their tricks of propaganda, stuffed ballot boxes, purchased elections, extortion, blackmail, drug trafficking, sexual intrigue, kidnapping, beating, torture, intimidation, economic sabotage, false stories about opponents in the local media, infiltration and disruption of opposing political parties, demolition and evacuation procedures, death squads, and politically motivated assassinations. The CIA is the epitome of organized crime run amuck!

posted 05-01-2003 12:49 AM            

that a few here fit the description to a "T"?

Bivings employees that is....

posted 05-14-2003 01:41 AM            

But sometimes they drink too much, or just use bad judgement:
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http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/ubb/Forum6/HTML/001102-4.html

262 posts, Mar 2003

>posted 05-13-2003 12:32 PM
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I'm not looking for a job because I created a business for myself here in America.
Instead of whining that there is no work, why don't you spend that time looking for work Mech, or creating it yourself? I'm making money right now as I type...are you? And if you are not, the first step to success is taking upon yourself the responsibility for earning an income
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All the sanctimony of a telemarketer?

Yes Mech, sellout all your principles,
and post messages as directed by Bivings or another PR firm hired by the RNC to be a fake citizen posting messages slavishly 'zieg heiling' to Bush for a paycheck.

posted 05-14-2003 03:38 AM            

"Sounds just like you and mech there shitoga"

I'd have to venture that description applies to a good majority of the activists on this site.

posted 05-15-2003 03:44 AM            

Snip> Hello Dear Friends and White Knights,

It's been 3 years, 2 months, and 5 days since the first time the true
NESARA law passed by Congress. That's 165.7 weeks. That's 1,160 days
since the White Knights struck the first decisive blow for our people and
world.

So, how did we end up here, 1,160 days after NESARA was passed and still
we do not have our liberty and prosperity which NESARA brings us? We
still have the illegal IRS operating, we have the even more nefarious
homeland security, we have an illegal regime of Bush gang thugs running
our country and trying to turn Bush Jr. into Hitler and the USA into Nazi
Germany. We have thousands of innocent people in the Middle East who have
been attacked, killed, and harmed by the illegal Bush regime. We have
billions of people in the world who are suffering from homelessness,
starvation, lack of medical and health treatment because they cannot
afford health care, lack of a job and the resulting personal and family
difficulties.

We have a bunch of Illuminati-controlled stooges such as the Bush family,
the Rockefellers, Blair, Howard, Putin, etc. who are running our world.
These Illuminati stooges controlled by the big Illuminati bosses have zero
valuing of life and would kill their mothers in a minute if it got them
what they wanted. We have the Illuminati continuing their brainwashing
tactics of scaring and terrorizing the world with manufactured viruses
which are purposely administered to people. We have the people of
Britain, the U.S., Israel and other countries being terrorized by secret
groups working for their own governments.

So, here we sit still pretending that the NESARA announcement can be done
in a "reasonable" fashion. There's nothing "reasonable" about our world
situation, but this is apparently not realized by some key decision-makers
who control the criteria by which NESARA must be announced. We are frogs
who were put into cold water in the kettle over the fire, and now the
water is approaching the boiling point, but we've ACCLIMATED to the
"increasing heat".

What does it take before those in charge of the criteria realize that they
are "fighting a war for survival", not negotiating a gentlemanly
transition? The Illuminati are ruthless killers who have done unspeakable
harm to our people and our world. We CAN have a NESARA announcement and
implementation process that is calm and peaceful but we NEED some
advantages to get NESARA announced. The rule makers need to give the
White Knights some advantages which allow them to win the unseen war. The
rule makers need to quit telling the Illuminati/dark agenda about the
White Knight battle plan to get NESARA announced.

Since the Illuminati own the networks and know that the NESARA
announcement is being attempted nearly every day now, there was
interference with the broadcasting systems yesterday, as well as other
things that kept us from seeing NESARA's announcement. However, if the
other things were handled, Beloved Ascended Master Saint Germaine could
have ordered complete control of the broadcasting national and
international networks in time to carry the NESARA announcement. But, we
had other interference that was taking too many hours to clear under the
"current rules".

The "National Economic Security And Reformation Act" - NESARA - provides
major benefits to Americans including:
1) Forgiveness of credit card and mortgage debt as remedy for bank frauds;

2) Creates U.S. Treasury Bank system which absorbs the Federal Reserve and
new precious metals backed U.S. Treasury currency;
3) Restores Constitutional Law;
4) Requires resignations of Bush and Cheney to be replaced by
Constitutionally acceptable NESARA President and Vice President Designates
until new elections;
5) Requires the President Designate to declare "Peace" enabling
international banking improvements to proceed smoothly and ends U.S.
aggressive military actions immediately;
6) Abolishes IRS; creates flat rate non-essential "new items only" sales
tax revenue for government, and many more improvements.

I am not under gag order and due to certain important assistance I have
provided, I have had special access to various people who have privately
confirmed NESARA. Over the years I have had the major points of NESARA
listed above VERIFIED by telephone by: U.S. Senators, highly placed
bankers, high level Treasury Department officials, and high level
personnel in the White House, National Security Agency, and Naval
Intelligence, to name a few key sources.

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We could have had NESARA announced today if the "rules" had not gotten in
the way again. We had a window for the NESARA announcement but one rule
got in the way - a silly rule when we consider the current world
situation, such as what happened in Saudi Arabia.

The Bush regime CIA masterminded and coordinated the attack on the
American compound in Saudi Arabia. The CIA used Arabs for the attack,
(let's remember that Osama Bin Laden was a CIA operative) and also the CIA
made sure that explosives were planted in the building that was blown up.
It was another "inside job" by the CIA against Americans to try to
brainwash Americans into believing that "foreign" terrorists are the
problem. The Bush gang ordered this attack on Americans in Saudi Arabia
to try to drum up support for another war and also to scare Americans in
the U.S. into accepting the increasing NAZI-clamp down on our people by
the Nazi Gestapo homeland security agency.

I wonder how the families of the people who died and were injured in the
Saudi Arabia attack would feel if they knew we were sitting around letting
the Bush gang run wild terrorizing the world because of some "gentlemanly
rules" governing NESARA's announcement? I'm asking all the Judges
involved in the World Court and in the U.S. Supreme Court to change the
rules and don't tell the Illuminati what the rule changes are. Give the
White Knights a chance to go on the offensive and get NESARA announced
without giving away the White Knights' battle plan to the enemy.

It is ridiculous that it is May 14th, 1,160 days after NESARA was passed,
our country has been hijacked by the Bush gang thugs who are terrorizing
Americans and others here and abroad AND we STILL don't have NESARA
announced? What does it take to get the point across that the rules are
not working?

I'm hearing the rules WILL BE changed if we don't have NESARA announced
"by a certain date". The World Court told the banks that they have to
ready on May 15th for the big changes - that's the end of the extra time
the banks have been given. I'm asking the World Court Judges WHY we have
to wait even another day for these rule changes? Tomorrow is May 15th!
We've been "reasonable" ad nauseum. Do we need dozens more Americans or
others to die? How would you World Court Judges feel if YOUR family
members had died in Saudi Arabia?

For the White Knights to redeem themselves, they only have a few more days
in which they can order NESARA to be announced on their own authority.
How about giving the White Knights a fighting chance and dropping all the
rules but the two basic rules?

How about changing the rules NOW, today? What's so special about the date
that's been chosen? What's "reasonable" about sticking to the current
rules after all the harm that's been done? Is this date so special that
you World Court Judges can in good conscience hold onto it in the face of
more people dying because YOU have chosen "a date"?

WHY wait to change the rules? We NEED NESARA Now!

Blessings and Love,
Dove of Oneness

The term "White Knights" is borrowed from the Wall Street Journal and the
world of big business hostile takeovers when a vulnerable company is
"rescued from a hostile takeover by a White Knight" corporation or wealthy
person. Certainly, these people fighting to bring Americans and the world
the benefits of NESARA and to rescue our people from government and
banking fraud deserve to be called "White Knights". World Court is the
International Court of Justice in the city called The Hague, in the
Netherlands.

posted 05-15-2003 04:15 AM            

Let us not forget all those other stooges of the NWO, Teddy Kennedy, Dick Gephart, Hillary Clinton, Diane Feinstein,
Bill Frist, Ted Coppel, Chris Matthews, Dan Rather, Rush Limbaugh, Mike Savage, Oprah Winfery...etc.
Lots of 'field hands' strive to become "house *s"

Nor should we forget that the entire media and government can and will come down on those who refuse to
"Go along to get along"
(eg: even Catholic Priests lie about sex- and with far more reason)

"There is a government within the government, and I am not in charge."
William J Clinton
(at a DNC fund raiser, NY,NY 1996)

Like Ross Perot said in 1992:
"Meetings were canceled. Calls were not returned."

What meetings? Who failed to return the Conservative billionaire's calls?

posted 05-15-2003 04:58 AM            

quote:

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I'm willing to bet wisecrapper's rabbit deal the mace bobB's contraption on his brakes your intruder....all random unfortunate or misconscrewed incidents...

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Random acts, my ass. Those folks knew exactly what they were doing and why. That creepy call to my work phone removed any doubt.

Read the documentation

posted 05-15-2003 05:20 AM            

By Ruth Rosen, San Francisco Chronicle
May 12, 2003

McCarthyism. The very word conjures up the image of someone using smear tactics to question a person's patriotism and to silence dissent. Could such political persecution happen again in our country?

That is the question some Americans pondered last week when the U.S. Senate unsealed 4,000 pages of transcripts from secret sessions held by Sen. Joseph McCarthy in 1953-54. He used these closed hearings to weed out witnesses who refused to be intimidated and as dress rehearsals for public hearings.

What are the lessons to be learned from this poisonous period in our nation's past?

One is how quickly our fragile freedoms can be eroded. McCarthy rose to power in 1950 on a tsunami of anti-communist hysteria, brandishing a list of "known communists" in the State Department, and held public trials to enhance his own political clout. He fell from power only when his attacks against the U.S. Army – broadcast to millions of Americans in their living rooms – exposed his indecent persecution of innocent people. The Senate censured him in December 1954. Discredited and disgraced, he died three years later, at age 47.

Nevertheless, his influence lasted for more than a decade. Loyalty oaths, indictments and blacklists destroyed the reputations and careers of thousands of innocent people. Fear of internal sabotage and infiltration of all institutions crushed dissent. A pervasive atmosphere of fear quarantined permissible debate.

Anti-communism, in short, turned into a political weapon. In his splendid "Story of American Freedom," historian Eric Foner reminds us that "Anti-communism became a tool wielded by white supremacists against black civil rights, employers against unions, and upholders of sexual morality and traditional gender roles against homosexuality..." It was, he writes, "an inauspicious time to raise questions about the imperfections of American freedom."

Another lesson is that most official secrets and lies eventually see the light of day. Some repentant former official writes a revelatory memoir. A new administration opens up the archives and historians and journalists excavate deeply buried secrets. It took only days, for example, for the world to learn that Secretary of State Colin Powell had received forged and faked evidence when he made his case for war in Iraq at the U.N. Security Council.

The Bush administration, infamous for its excessive secrecy, should take this caveat to heart. Attorney General John Ashcroft has encouraged federal agencies to reject Freedom of Information Act requests; President Bush has illegally sealed the papers of former presidents; and the USA Patriot Act has expanded government surveillance powers and trampled upon the privacy rights of American citizens.

Could the chill of fear that froze political debate in the 1950s occur again? In an interview with National Public Radio, Sen. Carl Levin, D-Mich., says, "History is a powerful teacher . . . I think there's greater awareness of McCarthyism and there's greater resistance against those who would try to still voices that they disagree with."

He's partly right. As of last week, more than 100 communities had passed resolutions against cooperating with the USA Patriot Act. San Mateo and Marin counties, as well as the city of Sausalito, recently added their names to the growing list. Librarians in Santa Cruz and other communities, moreover, are shredding the library-use records of their patrons, rather than give them up to John Ashcroft.

Sen. Susan Collins, R-Maine, who initiated the release of the transcripts, thinks the newly released McCarthy papers provide a timely reminder of the danger posed by fear itself. "We hope that the excesses of McCarthyism will serve as a cautionary tale for future generations."

But Sen. Russ Feingold, D-Wis., the only senator who voted against the USA Patriot Act, is far more pessimistic. In an interview with NPR, he warns that "This is a dark hour for civil liberties in America. What I'm hearing from Muslim Americans, Arab Americans, South Asians and others, suggests a climate of fear toward our government that is unprecedented."

posted 05-25-2003 12:50 AM            

you pissed someone off or maybe a group of them to the point of action and caused your trouble...unfortunate...but it was certainly not my fault...maybe after 4 years of bitching about it, and blaming debunkers for your troubles...actually getting out there and trying to find the perps would be the best solution...did you ever file a police report ? hire an investigator ?

most of what you imply is circumstancial...I have never seen anything other than what you "say" the evidence is...

I have to wonder why you do not have some type of alarm system to protect your belongings and yourself...a gun...hey they work great...took a skunk out a weeks ago from 40 yards with my .22 pistol...

posted 05-25-2003 07:12 AM            

A little hostile Quacker?