posted 03-10-2003 10:04 AM            

http://www.accessatlanta.com/ajc/opinion/0902/29bookman.html

http://www.washtimes.com/world/20021007-8413366.htm

http://greatchange.org/ov-siegfried,US_war_moves.html

posted 03-10-2003 06:20 PM            

I think responding to this quote below will do....all three links borderline OP-ED pieces too big fella...>>truth stretchers<<

This is not a conspiracy, nor is it a coincidence — it is how American capitalism works. The government sees its primary role to defend and extend American corporate interests. There is a constant revolving door between government and business in the US. This, of course, is not a uniquely American reality but one shared with all the capitalist governments of the world.

fighting for oil is no different than fighting for land...it does not bother me that a benefit of liberating iraq will be lower oil prices...

listen...my family drives a lot, 3 vehicles 3 v-6's we don't drive race cars (although the mini-van is pretty quick)...at current, gasoline here is 1.55 gallon...which is 3.2 gallons for my 5 dollars...if liberating iraq will give me my 1.8 gallons back (5 bucks for 5 gallons)...

it's a good damn deal, and I like mcdonalds !

posted 03-10-2003 07:01 PM            

and gas to add to the above, after watching the film of saddam putting down the uprising after the first gulf war, hearing testimony all week from iraqi women...the absolute horror stories...and to top it all off watching saddam gas those poor little puppies was to much...

as a "civilized human" any clandestine reservations I may have had about the war are certainly gone now...

saddam, his family his government and his loyal have to go...one way or another...

now

posted 03-10-2003 09:23 PM            

yawlz psycho~social need to attach bad things with the U.S is a little disgusting...

and strange !

ever tried elf bowling ears ?

posted 03-10-2003 09:41 PM               

Seek... bowling is too linear for me.
Plus, sharing sweaty shoes with strangers is a real turn off, not to mention a quick route to a nasty case of foot fungus.
I'll pass.

posted 03-11-2003 03:45 PM            

It's absolutely disgusting the way you treat others here who are nice enough not to throw stones even though you continue to do so.

Answering your question....

posted 03-11-2003 05:07 PM            

Seems if someone sought to steer the thread off topic, s/he succeeded admirably.

Anyone confused should visit my topic:
>Web of Deceit - Internet Professionals?< http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/ubb/Forum6/HTML/001023.html

On topic:
Questions;
1. I dubya insane?
My answer: He certainly is destroying everything his party and our country once stood for.
Perhaps just a rich kid playing with his toys. (military & police state)
You know how rich kids destroy their toys and get new ones?
1. Was the thread steered off topic in a successful attempt to prevent any discussion of the topic by making personal insults and "off on a tangent" posts?

Read the origional post, visit my topic, and read the "steer the thread off topic posts";
Then decide for yourself.

What affiliations protestors (both for and against the BushWar) have;
and whether one party rule by Communists, Nazis, Fascists or Republicans;
has anything to do with a burnt out druggie with anti social delusions?

Yeah. His daddy was 'the Prozac President' with a temdency to lie constantly to justify diversionary 'Wag the Dog BushWars',
and I think his son is worse because of his lifetime of drug and alcohol abuse.

I'm just a citizen, not an MD;
but those MD's whose opinions are cited in the article beginning this thread (before the diversionary tactics) worry me by stating the obvious, from expert sources.

Are we nuts?
To allow America to be ruled by a small elite who defecate on our Constutution and Bill or Rights, destroy our freedoms and BS us into foriegn "Wag the Dog BushWars".

YES!

posted 03-11-2003 07:04 PM            

and that's ok from where I sit you two....

posted 03-11-2003 09:50 PM               

Guess Seek thinks it's ok to have a pResident with such outstanding virtues as cocaine abuse, alcohol abuse and abandonment of military duties leading us.
What you don't say says more than what you do, Seek.

No worries 'tho... Your threatorhic has lots of crudability with me!

posted 03-11-2003 10:12 PM            

taking a wild guess...don't suppose you have any proof of all the above accusations ?

3 words ears...clinton, kennedy family

besides..even if some of that is true...I'd rather have someone there that's been through the fire...

not someone who thinks they are above it...

posted 03-11-2003 10:55 PM               

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taking a wild guess...don't suppose you have any proof of all the above accusations ?

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1978 - Bush got a court hearing to get his driving suspension lifted early, even though he had not completed a required driver rehabilitation course. He told the hearings officer that he drank only once a month, and just had "an occasional beer." The officer granted his request. But Bush continued drinking for 8 years after that date and has said publicly that he drank too much and had a drinking problem during that time. Presumably Bush was under oath during the hearing, though we haven't been able to pin down that detail. The Bush campaign refuses to comment on this contradiction.

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Bush has essentially admitted that he used cocaine in his Clintonesque, carefully worded partial denials. He won't deny using cocaine or marijuana, though under persistent questioning he said that he hadn't used cocaine in the last 7 years. Most newspapers report that he denies using cocaine since 1974, but that's not exactly true.

That is the most favorable interpretation of what Bush said, but since Bush and his campaign have already made Clintonesque denials on other issues, we need to look at his words carefully.

What Bush actually said was ""I could have passed the [FBI] background check on the standards applied on the most stringent conditions when my dad was president of the United States - a 15-year period," Mr. Bush said. This is ambiguous because background forms ask slightly different questions, depending on the position. Drug questions can go back one year, seven years or 10 years. Bush Jr. didn't have any formal position in his father's administration, so which one applies is unclear. And 15-years is not one of the choices.

Since Bush Sr.'s presidency began in January 1989, reporters assumed that Jr. was denying drug use for 15 years before that, to 1974. But that is not at all clear. His only direct statement was for seven years before today. He could easily have been denying drug use only for 15 years before today, based on 7 or 10 years dating back from the END of his dad's term. 10 years before 1993, the end of Bush Sr.'s term, is pretty close to 15 years before today.

The Clinton administration actually has a stricter standard than Bush did -- the FBI now asks about any drug use after age 18. But Governor Bush has refused to say whether he would pass that standard, even though that is what he will be asked if he wins. Bush also has refused to answer whether he could have passed the FBI test when his father was vice president, during the 8 years from 1981-1989.

As for the arrest and diversion charge, Governor Bush admits working at the center in 1972. When asked for comment, Bush's campaign spokesman reportedly said "Oh shit... no comment." McLellan denies saying that.

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The military documents of GW Bush

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3 words ears...clinton, kennedy family

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3 words Seek.. they aren't President

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besides..even if some of that is true...I'd rather have someone there that's been through the fire...

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So you admit, you approve of a former cocaine and alcohol abusing, AWOL President?

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not someone who thinks they are above it...like you sweetie

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You have become better at assuming you know anything about me, while coming across like a condescending jerk! (100)
Grats.

posted 03-11-2003 11:04 PM            

Spending more and more time in Alabama lately as Florida becomes ever more (IMHO) a police state.
(Makes Mississippi seem free and open by comparison)

Unable to find any member of the Alabama National guard who wants to claim that (UNCLAIMED!) $7,000.00 reward: for stating under oath (notarized statement) that he ever saw our dear dubya at any Alabama National Guard meeting; (ever)

During the time dubya (in real life) had to serve community service "helping inner city kids"
after his cocaine bust.

His record was expunged in spring of 1976 at the Baytown TX, Harris Co. courthouse.
they (deputies)emptied the building, and made all us honest people wait until the limos left before we could go back to work.

There he was issued a new DR # and new SSN, and his records (one indecent exposure conviction, one theft conviction, one DUI conviction, one 'cocaine possession w/intent to sell'/ plea bargain; sealed and expunged.

Someone should visit Harris Co. and check the files.

They can't hide all the truth all the time.

posted 03-12-2003 01:26 AM            

I'm impressed...your html skills have really improved !

nation wide accredited respectable somewhere near unbias news links only sugar...tabloid leftwing anti-capitalist rags I DO NOT accept as fact...

lower your standards...if you will...

posted 03-12-2003 01:59 AM            

Bought, payed for and enslaved by the Empire.

Is that the image you portray yourself as Seeker?

How ironic.