posted 04-01-2003 12:29 PM            

http://www.wnd.com/news/archives.asp?AUTHOR_ID=185

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/03/30/magazine/30ONLANGUAGE.html

posted 04-01-2003 12:32 PM            

Really, 12 years of sanctions and "surgical" (SIC) strikes aren't at least part of our fault? A country now so laden with DEPLETED URANIUM that those children you mention are getting birth defects, lukemias and other horrible things wrong with them.Not our fault right?

Whatever you say Fastwalker.

posted 04-01-2003 12:39 PM            

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Yeeeeehaaaaaa! It's the goat-roper, shit-kicker from Okkie!!! Mr. SQUARE WAVE himself.

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He sure kicks the shit outa you every time….

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FW:"--I’ll tell you what a truly sick mind is; A truly sick mind is one who blames deaths of Iraqi children on Americans,--"
Really, 12 years of sanctions and "surgical" (SIC) strikes aren't at least part of our fault?

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No they are not our fault. Yet another idiotic argument that refuses to address reality. Sanctions are the result of Saddam Hussein’s actions. Starving his people are the direct result of Saddam Hussein’s actions. There you go defending Saddam Hussein again, Mech…while blaming the US for what Saddam Hussein does.

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I think the Iraqi people know otherwise

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posted 04-01-2003 12:42 PM            

you'd figure such a acomplish musician would know these things...

new york london paris munich everyone talk about.....

posted 04-01-2003 12:47 PM            

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Originally posted by theseeker:
hey fatboy, square wave is a brand of distortion box...for guitars...

you'd figure such a acomplish musician would know these things...

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Fat boy, huh? 5'10" and 150 lbs, vegetarian 35 years. I don't think so.

I have been playing music before you were even a gleam in your inbred parents eyes. Square waves have a detrimental effect on plants and animals. Look it up. That's why I like FM synthesis. Know what that is numbskull?

posted 04-01-2003 12:57 PM            

I've heard your stuff...if you call it music that's your biz...

kind of like techno gone horribly wrong...

posted 04-01-2003 01:06 PM            

Let me see, we've been in magazine writeups with Tangerine Dream, DEVO, The Residents, King Crimson, Genesis, Cyberchump, and compared to them. Opened up for Star Trek Conventions, wrote 3 soundtracks, been on complilations with Negativland, The FOur Tops, Jimmy Jones, Bill Haley and the Comets, Meat Beat Manifesto, Joe Fleury, The Fireflies, Procol Harum, Art of Noise, and Lene Lovich. Won 2 awards from Videomaker magazine for best video of 2000 and 2001. Played with Laurie Anderson, Dave Van tiegham, Robby Krieger, Ray Manzarek, Procol Harum, Arthur Brown, Average White Band, UFO, Molly Hatchet, Chick Corea, and Chris Cutler.

I personally have worked on TV commercials with music and 3D animation, proficient on Lightwave 3D.

posted 04-01-2003 01:15 PM            

gasbag...you are completely welcome to take your shots at me I've been through plenty of human garbage on the net your not the first or the last I reckon, but you've taken a shot at my parents and now my kids...

your coming off as a bitter meanspirited person...who has no manners much less morals...

leave relatives out of this...or I'll get out the black candles and see how high that blood sugar of yours can go...

posted 04-01-2003 01:21 PM            

Your music is outstanding for only a "two-piece". Incredibly detailed, rich, all digital sound. Listening to it with quality headphones is great. I hear a lot of your influences in the music. It's definately music for higher states of consciousness.
I'd say it's fast becoming one of my favorites to listen to....not just for "background noise"...i'll save that for pop rock.

Seeker...did you REALLY hear his music? I'm sorry but I have to disagree. There is nothing like it out there.I guess I like progressive Synth music, like Hawkwind but one thing Swamps music is NOT..is "techno".
Anyone who has listened to music seriously for years could tell you the difference.

posted 04-01-2003 01:31 PM            

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Uh Huh, Seeker. If you could play as well as me, what would do?

quit....

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Lol....I did a spitake,....Good comeback, Seeker...LOL

posted 04-01-2003 01:45 PM            

Facts on Who Benefits From Keeping Saddam Hussein In Power
by The Heritage Foundation Web Memo #217 February 28, 2003

France

a. According to the CIA World Factbook, France controls over 22.5 percent of Iraq's imports.[1] French total trade with Iraq under the oil-for-food program is the third largest, totaling $3.1 billion since 1996, according to the United Nations.[2] In 2001 France became Iraq's largest European trading partner.

b. Roughly 60 French companies do an estimated $1.5 billion in trade with Baghdad annually under the U.N. oil-for-food program.[3]

c. France's largest oil company, Total Fina Elf, has negotiated a deal to develop the Majnoon field in western Iraq. The Majnoon field purportedly contains up to 30 billion barrels of oil.[4]

d. Total Fina Elf also negotiated a deal for future oil exploration in Iraq's Nahr Umar field. Both the Majnoon and Nahr Umar fields are estimated to contain as much as 25 percent of the country's reserves.[5]

e. France's Alcatel company, a major telecom firm, is negotiating a $76 million contract to rehabilitate Iraq's telephone system.[6]

f. From 1981 to 2001, according to the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute (SIPRI), France was responsible for over 13 percent of Iraq's arms imports.[7]

Germany

a. Direct trade between Germany and Iraq amounts to about $350 million annually, and another $1 billion is reportedly sold through third parties.[8]

b. It has recently been reported that Saddam Hussein has ordered Iraqi domestic businesses to show preference to German companies as a reward for Germany's "firm positive stand in rejecting the launching of a military attack against Iraq." It was also reported that over 101 German companies were present at the Baghdad Annual exposition.[9]

c. During the 35th Annual Baghdad International Fair in November 2002, a German company signed a contract for $80 million for 5,000 cars and spare parts.[10]

d. In 2002, DaimlerChrysler was awarded over $13 million in contracts for German trucks and spare parts.[11]

e. German officials are investigating a German corporation accused of illegally channeling weapons to Iraq via Jordan. The equipment in question is used for boring the barrels of large cannons and is allegedly intended for Saddam Hussein's Al Fao Supercannon project.[12]

Russia

a. According to the CIA World Factbook, Russia controls roughly 5.8 percent of Iraq's annual imports.[13] Under the U.N. oil-for-food program, Russia's total trade with Iraq was somewhere between $530 million and $1 billion for the six months ending in December of 2001.[14]

b. According to the Russian Ambassador to Iraq, Vladimir Titorenko, new contracts worth another $200 million under the U.N. oil-for-food program are to be signed over the next three months.[15]

c. Soviet-era debt of $7 billion through $8 billion was generated by arms sales to Iraq during the 1980-1988 Iran-Iraq war.

d. Russia's LUKoil negotiated a $4 billion, 23-year contract in 1997 to rehabilitate the 15 billion-barrel West Qurna field in southern Iraq. Work on the oil field was expected to commence upon cancellation of U.N. sanctions on Iraq. The deal is currently on hold.[16]

e. In October 2001, Salvneft, a Russian-Belarus company, negotiated a $52 million service contract to drill at the Tuba field in Southern Iraq.[17]

f. In April 2001, Russia's Zaruezhneft Company received a service contract to drill in the Saddam, Kirkuk, and Bai Hassan fields to rehabilitate the fields and reduce water incursion.

g. A future $40 billion Iraqi-Russian economic agreement, reportedly signed in 2002, would allow for extensive oil exploration opportunities throughout western Iraq.[18] The proposal calls for 67 new projects, over a 10-year time frame, to explore and further develop fields in southern Iraq and the Western Desert, including the Suba, Luhais, West Qurna, and Rumaila projects. Additional projects added to the deal include second-phase construction of a pipeline running from southern to northern Iraq, and extensive drilling and gas projects. Work on these projects would commence upon cancellation of sanctions.[19]

h. Russia's Gazprom company over the past few years has signed contracts worth $18 million to repair gas stations in Iraq.[20]

i. The former Soviet Union was the premier supplier of Iraqi arms. From 1981 to 2001, Russia supplied Iraq with 50 percent of its arms.[21]

China

a. According to the CIA World Factbook, China controls roughly 5.8 percent of Iraq's annual imports.[22]
b. China National Oil Company, partnered with China North Industries Corp., negotiated a 22-year-long deal for future oil exploration in the Al Ahdab field in southern Iraq.[23]

c. In recent years, the Chinese Aero-Technology Import-Export Company (CATIC) has been contracted to sell "meteorological satellite" and "surface observation" equipment to Iraq. This contract was approved by the U.N. oil-for-food program.[24]

d. CATIC also won approval from the U.N. in July 2000 to sell $2 million worth of fiber optic cables. This and similar contracts approved were disguised as telecommunications gear. These cables can be used for secure data and communications links between national command and control centers and long-range search radar, targeting radar, and missile-launch units, according to U.S. officials. In addition, China National Electric Wire &Cable and China National Technical Import Telecommunications Equipment Company are believed to have sold Iraq $6 million and $15.5 million worth of communications equipment and other unspecified supplies, respectively.[25]

e. According to a report from SIPRI, from 1981 to 2001, China was the second largest supplier of weapons and arms to Iraq, supplying over 18 percent of Iraq's weapons imports.[26]

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Notes:

[1] Central Intelligence Agency, The World Factbook 2002, at http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook.
[2] Jon Talton, "French Ideals and Profits in the Iraqi Triangle", The Arizona Republic, February 23, 2003.
[3] Ibid.
[4] Kenneth Katzman, Iraq: Oil-for-Food Program, International Sanctions, and Illicit Trade, Congressional Research Service, September 26, 2002.
[5] Ibid.
[6] Evelyn Iritani, "Hussein's Government Signs Lucrative Contracts, Especially with Nations that Oppose the U.S. Led Effort to Oust the Regime," The Los Angeles Times, November 11, 2002.
[7 ]Information from Stockholm International Peace Research Institute (SIPRI), "Arms Transfers to Iraq, 1981-2001," at http://projects.sipri.se/armstrade/IRQ_IMPORTS_1982-2001.pdf.
[8] David R. Sands, "France, Germany Protect Iraq Ties," The Washington Post, February 20, 2003.
[9] Ibid.
[10] "Africa Analysis-Trade Points Way to Peace", The Financial Asia Africa Intelligence Wire, November 19, 2002.
[11] Faye Bowers, "Driving Forces in War-Wary Nations: The Stances of France, Germany, Russia and China Are Colored by Economic and National Interests," Christian Science Monitor, February 25, 2003.
[12] "Helping Saddam Rearm," The Wall Street Journal, October 11, 2002.
[13] Central Intelligence Agency, The World Factbook 2002, at http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook.
[14] Testimony provided by Ariel Cohen to the House International >Relations Committee, "Russia and the Axis of Evil: Money, Ambition and U.S. Interests," February 26, 2003.
[15] Nelli Sharushkina, "Russia Plays the Field in Iraq-Mixed Signals Worry Baghdad," Energy Intelligence Briefing, February 5, 2003.
[16] Dan Morgan and David B. Ottaway, "In Iraqi War Scenario, Oil Is Key Issue," The Washington Post, September 15, 2002.
[17] Ibid.
[18] Scott Peterson, "Russia's Newest Tie to Iraq: Moscow Is Set to Sign a $40 billion Economic Pact with Baghdad Next Month," Christian Science Monitor, August 20, 2002.
[19] "Mideast Tensions to Delay Iraq Iraqi-Russian Signing," Energy Compass, April 19, 2002.
[20] Dmitry Zhdannikov, "Russian's Grim About Working Under Saddam," The Houston Chronicle, April 14, 2002.
[21] Information from Stockholm International Peace Research Institute (SIPRI), "Arms Transfers to Iraq, 1981-2001," at http://projects.sipri.se/armstrade/IRQ_IMPORTS_1982-2001.pdf.
[22] Central Intelligence Agency, The World Factbook 2002, at http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook.
[23] Trish Saywell, "Oil: The Danger of Deals with Iraq," Far Eastern Economic Review, March 6, 2003
[24] Kenneth R. Timmerman, "Rogues Lending Hand to Saddam," Insight on the News, March 4, 2003.
[25] Ibid.
[26] Information from Stockholm International Peace Research Institute (SIPRI), "Arms Transfers to Iraq, 1981-2001," at http://projects.sipri.se/armstrade/IRQ_IMPORTS_1982-2001.pdf.

posted 04-01-2003 01:56 PM            

I believe it, BUT......

Funny how the "Heritage Foundation" left out the U.S. Role in arming Saddam...along with all of the other dirty dealings the U.S. had with him.

Somehow I think the "Heritage Foundation" has an alterior motive.

posted 04-01-2003 01:59 PM            

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Originally posted by theseeker:
then why did you ask...idiot...

gasbag...you are completely welcome to take your shots at me I've been through plenty of human garbage on the net your not the first or the last I reckon, but you've taken a shot at my parents and now my kids...

your coming off as a bitter meanspirited person...who has no manners much less morals...

leave relatives out of this...or I'll get out the black candles and see how high that blood sugar of yours can go...

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Then lay off the music and I'll lay off your kids and relatives. Don't like it heh, Hopalong?

posted 04-01-2003 02:01 PM            

it is a burden placed on the reader to use common sense to tell the difference between a joke...and a serious statement...

hope you was not drinking a soda during the spit-take there walker...

mech I didn't say anything about wicca...

posted 04-01-2003 02:05 PM            

"Rasta don't work for no....CIA"

Bob Marley

posted 04-01-2003 02:09 PM            

Besides, why attack the messenger?....It's very well foot noted and linked if you want to check out the sources of information.

posted 04-01-2003 02:12 PM            

Then lay off the music and I'll lay off your kids and relatives. Don't like it heh, Hopalong?

funny I don't equate humans and music as equals...odd little quirk you got there...with your filthy mouth arrogant perverse attitude...your dear wife must be a saint...if you want to continue to slander my children and my parents not to mention all southern folk with your hate speech, please continue to bury yourself with your own shovel...by all means...

you have been exposed for the pig you are !

Funny, I have Diabetes or 45 years. No retinopathy, no neuropathy, blood sugar stable (vegetarian and exercise diet does that), no heart problems.

GRRRREAT !

then the excuse you gave P/V of having a debilitating illness, so you could not serve in the military was just one big load of shit then !

draft dodger !

posted 04-01-2003 02:23 PM            

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Originally posted by theseeker:
then the excuse you gave P/V of having a debilitating illness, so you could not serve in the military was just one big load of shit then !

draft dodger !

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Huh? Since when can you serve in the military with Diabetes?

I take care of my nephew, who has cerebral palsy. We love each other, and he always asks me to put on "space music" or "Noble Gas". Seems like that little boy has a lot more sense than you, Suckjob Seeker.