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Proud Veteran
Senior Member
United States 212 posts, Jan 2003
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posted 04-03-2003 10:12 PM
Not to be rude LuLu, but I have seen plenty of fine Canadian beaver  ( Hope no one takes offense to that, it's been a long day of B-day celebration. )

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Mech
Commitees of Correspondence

The Minuteman State 6405 posts, Jun 2001
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posted 04-03-2003 10:22 PM
FW SEZ.....WE GOT THE MESSAGE. WE KNOW YOU HATE BUSH AND THE AMERICAN GOVERNMENT. WE KNOW YOU HATE THE MILITARY. WE KNOW YOU ARE INCAPABLE OF AN HONEST CONVERSATION." Nope, don't hate our miltary who took an oath protecting our CONSTITUTION. I once was one of them.In a way I still am.
Bu$h is a traitor...simply for passing Unconstitutional laws. FW,...You call it an "Honest Conversation" only when someone agrees with you...face it. You can't stand it that someone is exposing Bu$h for what he REALLY is.
[Edited 3 times, lastly by Mech on 04-03-2003] 
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Fastwalker
Senior Member
832 posts, Mar 2003
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posted 04-03-2003 10:50 PM
quote: FW SEZ.....WE GOT THE MESSAGE. WE KNOW YOU HATE BUSH AND THE AMERICAN GOVERNMENT. WE KNOW YOU HATE THE MILITARY. WE KNOW YOU ARE INCAPABLE OF AN HONEST CONVERSATION."Nope, don't hate our military who took an oath protecting our CONSTITUTION. I once was one of them.In a way I still am.
I don't buy this for a second. It is evident that you hate the military Mech, because you blame them for the deaths of Iraqi civilians rather than Saddam (as an example). You never mention any concern for the deaths of our own soldiers. I have trouble believing that you ever served in the armed forces. I know for a fact that you are not "one of them" now. quote: Bu$h is a traitor...simply for passing Unconstitutional laws.
Then so is Congress...The judicial branch should make the determination as to whether a law is unconstitutional. It is up to the judicial branch to make this interpretation. It is up to the legislative branch to write the law. It is up to the executive branch to enforce the law. quote: FW,...You call it an "Honest Conversation" only when someone agrees with you...face it.
Not at all. To the contrary...I'm looking for someone who can have honest and intelligent disagreement, and remain focused and on point, not someone who changes the subject and makes false statements every other line as you do. quote: You can't stand it that someone is exposing Bu$h for what he REALLY is.
Oh really? So far I haven't seen anyone here expose Bush (or beaver for that matter)...har har...But seriously, I believe Bush is exactly what he is because his actions are consistent with his words. What I am seeing is that the Bush bashers on this board are consistent liars and fabricators of "facts". They expose nothing but their own idiocy and self-delusion. I mean, you are the same guy who says he likes the politics of Dennis Kucinich for godsake…What does this say about you?
[Edited 1 times, lastly by Fastwalker on 04-04-2003]

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Mech
Commitees of Correspondence

The Minuteman State 6405 posts, Jun 2001
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posted 04-03-2003 10:56 PM
You're not worth talking to Fastwalker. You continually say I am making "False accusations". I link EVERYTHING that I post. The rest is speculation and opinion. It is clear your intention is to SLANDER...not to engage in dialog.
There is no sense in continually responding to your LIBELOUS remarks.
[Edited 1 times, lastly by Mech on 04-03-2003]

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theseeker
One moon circles
Damnit...I'm a doctor jim 3403 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 04-03-2003 11:02 PM
well happy birthday P/V !
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Proud Veteran
Senior Member
United States 212 posts, Jan 2003
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posted 04-03-2003 11:13 PM
Thank You  
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Proud Veteran
Senior Member
United States 212 posts, Jan 2003
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posted 04-03-2003 11:28 PM
quote: Originally posted by Mech:It is clear your intention is to SLANDER...not to engage in dialog. There is no sense in continually responding to your LIBELOUS remarks.
But you will Mech, you will 
[Edited 2 times, lastly by Proud Veteran on 04-03-2003]

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Fastwalker
Senior Member
832 posts, Mar 2003
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posted 04-03-2003 11:34 PM
LOL...Look at the way Mech backs out and runs away when he knows he can't hold up his end of an argument. This is not the characteristic of an American soldier...This is not the type of individual who confronts truth head on. This is the type of person who runs from confrontation rather than faces it when the cards are on the table. You're more comfortable when nobody opposes your lies and propaganda....eh Mech? Of course…this is what I expected, but I must confess, my side of the argument is much easier, because I know I’m right. It must be difficult being wrong and having to face that fact…but as we can see, Mech chooses not to face it and runs away. So predictable…. I feel sorry for you, for some strange reason, Mech. You seem sad and lost. 
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Mech
Commitees of Correspondence

The Minuteman State 6405 posts, Jun 2001
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posted 04-03-2003 11:40 PM
Your King Kong sized ego and your arrogance is astounding.PS: Just WHAT am I "lying" about. 
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theseeker
One moon circles
Damnit...I'm a doctor jim 3403 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 04-03-2003 11:43 PM
Just WHAT am I "lying" about.alex jones whatreallyhappened and voxfux being credible news / info sources 

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Fastwalker
Senior Member
832 posts, Mar 2003
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posted 04-03-2003 11:47 PM
Ahhh.....no sooner said, and Mech responds! Proud Vet must be psychic! 
quote: Just WHAT am I "lying" about.
Pick a subject...there are so many things. The reasons for this war...That Bush was not legitimately elected....That the US military is intentionally targeting Iraqi innocents (implied)...That the US government was behind the 9-11 attacks...That Bush is comparable to Saddam Hussein and Hitler... You name it...The question is not what are you lying about but what are you NOT lying about. 
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Mech
Commitees of Correspondence

The Minuteman State 6405 posts, Jun 2001
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posted 04-03-2003 11:48 PM
LIES? No. Those sites collect news stories and data that PROVE what our "leaders" are doing behind our backs. The Seeker's "credible" news sources... FOX news
Nat Hentoff Rush Limbaugh David Horowitz ROFLMAO! YOU Decide
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theseeker
One moon circles
Damnit...I'm a doctor jim 3403 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 04-03-2003 11:50 PM
what's wrong with those sources ?hentoff is a liberal bigtime...but he has spoken the truth... that's all I care about. 
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Fastwalker
Senior Member
832 posts, Mar 2003
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posted 04-03-2003 11:51 PM
FOX newsNat Hentoff Rush Limbaugh David Horowitz ROFLMAO! YOU Decide Yep..these are all credible news sources...you got that right. Who's Net Hantoff, though? Hey, you forgot Sean Hannity and Anne Coultier. 
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Mech
Commitees of Correspondence

The Minuteman State 6405 posts, Jun 2001
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posted 04-03-2003 11:51 PM
No FW...that is how YOU are interpreting it.Anyone who doesnt bark back exactly what the mainstream media barks and disagrees with the Bush administration..is a LIAR? No way.

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Mech
Commitees of Correspondence

The Minuteman State 6405 posts, Jun 2001
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posted 04-03-2003 11:52 PM
I digress..
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theseeker
One moon circles
Damnit...I'm a doctor jim 3403 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 04-04-2003 12:00 AM
actually mech when people try to shove stuff down my throat like the one's I listed do...that's when I say bunk...especially voxfux...he is using certain "tactics" that apparently you can't see....I'm sorry.... btw F/W here's a hentoff article... http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/ubb/Forum6/HTML/000546-27.html 
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Mech
Commitees of Correspondence

The Minuteman State 6405 posts, Jun 2001
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posted 04-04-2003 12:04 AM
Oh you mean like how FOX tries to convince me in participating in some prep-school NWO punk's plan for "retribution" aka... endless war.No thanks. The GLOBALISTS stand to gain. 
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the professor
KNOW YOUR ROLE
heartland USA 1164 posts, Jan 2003
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posted 04-04-2003 12:15 AM
I used to think Rush was right on until I kept hearing him make fun of the black helicoptor crowd as if they were a bunch of deranged lefties, although I agree about most lefties being so out of touch I often wondered about the right wing faction in this country mainly the gun rights guys and constitutionalists, and thought that most were concerned (gun guys) with the gov using special op forces to confiscate guns from law abiding owners. And to think Rush was labeling the black chopper crowd as if none of this existed, well it sure the hell does, the helicoptors, the spec ops squad is located out of Kentucky and I have plenty of video proving this, so in this aspect I know Rush to be wrong on this subject.
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Fastwalker
Senior Member
832 posts, Mar 2003
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posted 04-04-2003 12:15 AM
quote: Anyone who doesnt bark back exactly what the mainstream media barks and disagrees with the Bush administration..is a LIAR? No way.
I agree....No way. As I said, I disagree with the partial news and the liberal slant of the mainstream media. As just one example of leftist bias, the mainstream media constantly shows war protest rallies but rarely pro-America rallies. The mainstream media sides with Democrats and liberals over Bush...There were times when Tom Daschle was getting more air time than GW...There were times that several major stations would not air Bush's public addresses…and he‘s the freakin president! I have a profound problem with the so-called "mainstream media“,...As I said before Mech, I don't get my news from the mainstream media. I don't even get my news from FOX....(which is not part of the so-called mainstream media, by the way). I've already stated this, but you don't listen. I also welcome legitimate disagreements with the Bush administration. As I've said, I've disagree with several issues myself although I understood the political realities Bush is faced with. I think Bush should have far more cuts in spending and government programs than are currently in his budget. In fact, I think everything should be cut except military spending…which should be doubled…even tripled. The problem is that you are completely disingenuous with your disagreement with Bush. It goes beyond disagreement, into the realm of blind irrational hatred. You have not presented a coherent argument or justification for this hatred. Only these stupid unqualified statements like "Bush wants to control all the Iraqi oil" or "Bush is like Hitler or Saddam Hussein" "Bush was behind 9-11" "Bush wants to take away your freedoms with the Patriot Act" "Bush is the puppet of some mysterious shadow government".... Next thing you'll be parroting the Democrats and James Carville completely by saying "Bush wants to kill your babies" "Bush wants to starve senior citizens and make them eat dog food" "Bush wants to control the world" .... I'm paraphrasing of course, but this is the essence of some of your unqualified and ridiculous statements. This could hardly be called intelligent debate or discussion. 
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Mech
Commitees of Correspondence

The Minuteman State 6405 posts, Jun 2001
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posted 04-04-2003 12:40 AM
No FW...I view it as FACTS!BUSH passed the Patriot Act BUSH had the Military stand down on the morning of 9-11 Bush's father was partners with the Bin Ladens and the Carlyle group I don't trush GW Bu$h...PERIOD Anyone who passes UNCONSTITUTIONAL laws can't be trusted. Democrat OR Republican. I'm Sorry you can't accept that.
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theseeker
One moon circles
Damnit...I'm a doctor jim 3403 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 04-04-2003 01:09 AM
as said before I don't like the patriot act either...I don't like the additional gov. agencies...government is too big now and all that...as long as no one is doing anything wrong there's no worry... I understand that classification of "what's wrong" and what's right is and can get blurred somewhat...and in that lies the ultimate question...do you trust your government... my reply is yes at this point I trust them... but when this becomes history for more than a short time period...I will have answer the above question "no"... interesting history and perspective on Posse Comitatus....
Sec. 1385
SUPPORT THE TROOPS !

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Mech
Commitees of Correspondence

The Minuteman State 6405 posts, Jun 2001
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posted 04-04-2003 02:28 AM
Great Links Seeker.Posse Commitatus is being violated all the time by the US government...where have you been? Here is just ONE example. http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&node=&content Id=A2289-2002Jun29¬Found=true First of all..Pentagon Police are part of the Military. It is a violation of Posse Comitatus to have them stomping around Arlington. Secondly... to have Law Enforcement agencies moving towards erasing jurisdictions is a violation. You want more more proof...or are you going to turn a blind eye? SUPPORT THE TROOPS...BRING THEM HOME!
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theseeker
One moon circles
Damnit...I'm a doctor jim 3403 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 04-04-2003 01:51 PM
Great Links Seeker.man did I post the right one's  
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rainheart
Senior Member

174 posts, Oct 2001
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posted 04-04-2003 03:53 PM
Funny how the 'left' accuse the mainstream media of being biased to the 'right' and the 'right' accuse the mainstream media of being biased towards the 'left'.OK, so the media is biased. WOW what a freakin' epiphany! Thank you Mech for continuing to hammer home what the facts are, regardless of where you get your news. too bad that you are a devout defender of the republic, regardless of all the nice words in your constitution. After all, aren't our national identities just a continuation of divide and conquer (sp?). Colonization of the planet by greedy life destroying, power addicted, elite, at the expense of indigenous peoples, plants, animals, our atmosphere, etc. has certainly afforded us (the priveledged few who once were, and some still believe, free) the opportunity to have a comfortable lifestyle. But, have we ever been free? I doubt it. Indigenous peoples once were, and maybe our peasant fore fathers and mothers had some degree of freedom when we were not under the control of overlords, where our labour and the fruits of it were ours to decide. We've been duped big time. All of us. What's scary is that the true intentions of the evil overlords are coming to the forefront. Whether it's US led global dominance or One World government, we're screwed. The entire apparatus which has taken us this far has been built upon the piles of dead bodies and collapsed (collapsing)eco-systems. The blood is on ALL our hands. May God have mercy on those who have unwittingly have fed the 'machine' 
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