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theseeker
One moon circles

Damnit...I'm a doctor jim 3297 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 04-30-2003 03:16 PM
hey chem why do you think it's been over 16 hours since a post was made in the *exclusive* chemtrails forum ?what is the *vista* not as good as it used to be ? snort ! btw, fastwalker is NOT duncan...duncan was,is a libertarian, probably a voting yellow dog democrat...and he certainly does not have the political savy F/W has...he was/is intellectual to a point that makes you sick...[sic] get it ? hey now kook atleast debate lives here...and it does get hot sometimes...but that's life...and every now and again someone cracks a funny...which makes it all worth while... where ya been ears ?  
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Thermit
Tech

Houston, TX 2621 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 04-30-2003 03:35 PM
quote:
since a post was made in the *exclusive* chemtrails forum ?
Maybe people really did enjoy the arguing, we'll see... 
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Jeanie
Senior Member
North East U.S.A. 490 posts, Nov 2001
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posted 04-30-2003 03:52 PM
I've been busy with yard work but hopefully soon I hope to contribute.Kick Seeker to the curb. 
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theseeker
One moon circles

Damnit...I'm a doctor jim 3297 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 04-30-2003 04:01 PM
you'd like that wouldn't you dan..you...you...beaver !I've always thought that it's hard to bounce ideas off those who think the same as you... ying yang 
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Jeanie
Senior Member
North East U.S.A. 490 posts, Nov 2001
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posted 04-30-2003 05:04 PM
Seeker if you think I am Dan, you are nuttier than a fruit cake. I am woman, through and through...
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theseeker
One moon circles

Damnit...I'm a doctor jim 3297 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 04-30-2003 05:48 PM
that may be there dan...but remember krissa,jennatmc were too...and listen people's personal sexual preferences are their own...and none of my biz...if you want to be a woman that's fine...alternative internet lifestyles gotta start somewhere...not that there's anything wrong with that... 
oh yeah...check this out ! second post from the bottom....  http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/ubb/Forum15/HTML/000053.html

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Raelven
Elentári

Númenor 123 posts, Feb 2003
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posted 04-30-2003 06:07 PM
I think Seeker is Fastwalker! /wave Seek Thanks for asking! My job was "abolished" (doesn't get much more harsh than that) and the house I lived in went on the market all in the same week, but now the dust has settled and I have lots of time and no money as opposed to lots of money and no time so... you'll be hearing from me! I know I just made Seek's day  ------------------ Elen síla lumenn' omentielvo! 
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Lulu
ice behaving badly

right here 2440 posts, Dec 2000
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posted 04-30-2003 07:16 PM
Truth matters...right Dunk? Where's that photoshop TR-3B BTW? Been waiting a looooooooooooooooooong time... Seeker and FW the same person? No way! Is FW really Duncan Kunz? Hardly! 
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shatoga
Agent Provocateur
588 posts, Nov 2002
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posted 04-30-2003 09:30 PM
Seeker and FW use the same PR manual... read at 'Web Of Deceit' to understand fully
their job is to stifle dissent/truth at all costs dittoes/braindeads 
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Lulu
ice behaving badly

right here 2440 posts, Dec 2000
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posted 04-30-2003 09:42 PM
Seeker is far more crypic than FW would ever be! nuff said
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theseeker
One moon circles

Damnit...I'm a doctor jim 3297 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 04-30-2003 09:53 PM
contrasting styles too...short and sweet for me and long drawn out and methodical for fastwalker...btw...I think your missing a "t" there lu  go ahead take one of mine...I just bought a fresh pak... 
[Edited 1 times, lastly by theseeker on 04-30-2003]

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Lulu
ice behaving badly

right here 2440 posts, Dec 2000
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posted 04-30-2003 10:06 PM
LOL!!! yep you are so crypic seeks   
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Lulu
ice behaving badly

right here 2440 posts, Dec 2000
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posted 04-30-2003 10:09 PM
That's why I like you and Wild Bill-both short and sweet and spontaneous and funny as hell! FW I'm sure precomposes all his posts, edits for puctuation and spelling until it is PERFECT, saves the draft, uploads the draft, reviews the posts for any errror missed and doesn't sleep well for fear he missed something...  
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theseeker
One moon circles

Damnit...I'm a doctor jim 3297 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 04-30-2003 10:30 PM
yeah bill takes it to another level...and I'm just livin' in his world  I think it's about time to whip out the dialectizer 

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shatoga
Agent Provocateur
588 posts, Nov 2002
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posted 05-01-2003 03:24 AM
yet again:one can post a thousand times the equivalent of 2' plus 2 equals four ' and debunkers will still demand more proof: In fact, the technology already exists. In 1975, the US Navy patented a device for producing "a powder contrail having maximum radiation-scattering ability." The powder contained a mixture of 0.3 micron-sized titanium dioxide pigment particles coated with 0.007 micron hydrophobic colloidal silica and 4.5 micron particles of silica gel. The purpose of the apparatus was "to generate contrails or reflective screens for any desired purpose." The Welsbach Patent proposed using "very fine, talcum-like" powder of 10 to 100 micron-sized aluminum oxide to produce a "pure white plume" in the sky. In 1994, the Hughes aerospace company was issued a remarkable patent. The Welsbach patent "for Reduction of Global Warming" proposed countering global warming by dispensing microscopic particles of aluminum oxide and other reflective materials into the upper atmosphere. This "sky shield" would reflect one or two percent of incoming sunlight. The patent suggested that tiny metal flakes could be "added to the fuel of jet airliners, so that the particles would be emitted from the jet engine exhaust while the airliner was at its cruising altitude." Computer simulations by Ken Caldeira at California's Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory (LLNL) calculated that employing Welsbach's chemical-sunscreen technology could stop warming over 85 percent of the planet, despite an anticipated doubling of atmospheric carbon within the next 50 years. LLNL estimated the cost of creating thisso-called Sky Shield at $1 billion dollars a year - a cheap fix to avoid threatening the massive profits of the oil industry. At the 1998 International Seminar on Planetary Emergencies, Edward Teller, the "Father of the H-bomb," presented his Next Big Idea. Teller called for spreading reflective chemicals over the Earth to act like a mirror-shade. If it was impossible to protect the entire planet, these chemical sky shields could, at least, be extended to cover allies who secretly agreed to allow this unprecedented geo-engineering experiment to be carried out over their territory. In the July-August 1998 Science and Technology Review, Teller argued that the Sky Shield offered a more "realistic" option for addressing global warming than drastic cutbacks in CO2 emissions. In the spring of 1998, rain falling through heavy chemtrails over Espanola, Ontario was found to contain concentrations of aluminum particles seven times higher than permitted by Canadian health safety laws. Provincial health officials ordered tests after residents began complaining about severe headaches, chronic joint pain, dizziness, sudden extreme fatigue, acute asthma attacks and feverless "flu-like" symptoms. The results of the test were not released. The reports of illness all came from residents inside a 50-square-mile area who complained that they had been subjected to "months of spraying" by photo-identified US Air Force tanker planes. The USAF denied the intrusions. high traces of aluminum and quartz in particulate and rainwater samples. These concerns combined with associated respiratory ailments A Harvard School of Public Health team determined that particulates with a diameter less than 10 microns (one-tenth the thickness of a human hair) pose a serious threat to public health. On April 21, 2001, the New York Times warned: "These microscopic motes are able to infiltrate the tiniest compartments in the lungs and pass readily into the bloodstream, and have been most strongly tied to illness and early death, particularly in people who are already susceptible to respiratory problems." On December 14, 2000, the New England Journal of Medicine reported that inhaling particulate matter of a size 10 microns or smaller leads to "a 5 percent increased death rate within 24 hours." Teller's sunscreen calls for spraying 10 million tons of talcum-fine reflective particulates of 10 to 100 micron sizes. In the spring of 1998, rain falling through heavy chemtrails over Espanola, Ontario was found to contain concentrations of aluminum particles seven times higher than permitted by Canadian health safety laws. Provincial health officials ordered tests after residents began complaining about severe headaches, chronic joint pain, dizziness, sudden extreme fatigue, acute asthma attacks and feverless "flu-like" symptoms. The results of the test were not released. *** To contrast Chem-trail effects with the most common diagnosis for the same symptoms: Reports from earlier outbreaks describe the mild form of WNV infection as a febrile illness of sudden onset often accompanied by malaise headache anorexia myalgia nausea rash vomiting lymphadenopathy eye pain The full clinical spectrum of West Nile fever has not been determined in the United States. Severe Infection Approximately 1 in 150 infections will result in severe neurological disease. The most significant risk factor for developing severe neurological disease is advanced age. Encephalitis is more commonly reported than meningitis. In recent outbreaks, symptoms occurring among patients hospitalized with severe disease include fever gastrointestinal symptoms weakness change in mental status A minority of patients with severe disease developed a maculopapular or morbilliform rash involving the neck, trunk, arms, or legs. Several patients experienced severe muscle weakness and flaccid paralysis. Neurological presentations included ataxia and extrapyramidal signs optic neuritis cranial nerve abnormalities polyradiculitis myelitis seizures Although not observed in recent outbreaks, myocarditis, pancreatitis, and fulminant hepatitis have been described. Clinical Suspicion Diagnosis of WNV infection is based on a high index of clinical suspicion and obtaining specific laboratory tests. Quite similar symptoms. People exposed to chemtrails should see a doctor, just in case it is West Nile. Or is that vice versa? *** The jet looked like a cargo transport. As it flared in to land, a dark football shaped protuberance below the fuselage was silouetted. From the rear of the football a 'smoke' trailed aft. Afterwards an afternoon dew was visible on lawns. I stayed inside the house, windows closed, dehumidifiers filtering air. Neighbors who went for walks, suffered flu like symptoms. A nearby jail was closed because all inmates had a sudden mysterious disease, a spike in school absences was explained as a flu like illness. One state away, a friend called and said airplanes are flying over very low lately. He asked what makes contrails. I explained hot moisture laden exhaust in cold air causes contrails. "How about low altitude contrails?" "No such thing below the artic. Stay inside for a day or two." All his neighbors came down with flu like symptoms. One died from "West Nile" "How can we get West Nile with no mosquitos?" He asked in the next phone call. "Respiratory distress caused by inhalable particulates of toxic minerals can be mis-diagnosed." *** I am glad to participate in helping track these things! Where we live (Southern Ontario, just along the Saint Lawrence Seaway) This has been very noticable to both myself and husband/friends - ever since we moved here 1-1/2 years ago. We saw a low fat plane with noticable bullbous containers like (shatoga) has described just about a week ago. Weird that you mentioned that one, cause we really took note of it too. In fact we have observed planes of all kinds it seems. We see persistant coverage of this area. The sky will be just lit up with them when the sun reflects accross them - colorful. We get almost all the different patterns you guys all mention too, the V lately and the regular overal grid, the cotton batton like transformation, the white sky that results. They do shorter ones all over the place or other days spaning the horizons, largely in an east west way it looks like to me. I have seen them reflected by the moon, we hear the planes at night. We see quite regular - almost every day I bet if I looked - the white/silver long jets one two three, one two three... The nearest airport is Ottawa an hours drive due north of me. Oh ya there are lots of trails visable over that city, it's like they aren't even trying to hide it. I'm in town once a month and have seen this each time. Definatly they are doing this from passenger planes. I live close and right between two borders into the states. We both have exsisting health issues (hep -c) , so I don't know how much of our woes I can blame on the trails. Although, my hubby has developed respatory problems in the last year or two and we are both fatigued a great deal, muscle weakness and with me joint and body pain, sore eyes, sore even the structure of muscels under my scalp hurts. Last month I had say, about one week of throwing up everyday (I have a flue shot ) but no fever or other symtom. I have loss of appitite and am too thin and we both have trouble sleeping. We are 41 and 45 years old. These things could be from all sorts of reasons, depression can cause alot of those things too I think. But since we are getting so very much of the chemtrails here I think it is compounding our problems. It's odd, when I lived out west I never really noticed this. I didn't know about it then though. It's amazing what you see when you look up! Question, have any of you had a successful discusion about this with your family doc.? When I tried to bring it up with ours he said he never heard of that and then he looked at me pretty weird. *** January 1, 1999, I was in Orlando. Our flight was delayed (over 6 hours) into St. Louis because of the bad weather there. When we finally flew out, the sky was a checker board of contrails over Orlando. By the time I got home at midnight, I had a temp of 106* and the worst back and hip pain of my life. Vomiting too. I thought I was having an arthritis attack. It lasted several days. I thought I'd die. My doc diagnosed it as lupus. (I've not had another episode since.) I've thought about those contrails. I've thought about maybe bad English beef when I was in the Bahama's... Who knows? In the summer of 2000, (I can't recall the exact date) I reroofed my Mom's porch. While I was sitting on that roof, I counted about 25 contrails running east to west, perfectly spaced apart, and as far as I could see north to south. There were 2 contrails that ran from sw to ne, but they looked lighter, thinner. I live in NE Missouri. The closest big airport is St. Louis. The contrails from those planes look more like the 2 irregular flight patterns. These East/West phenomenon was different than anything I'd seen before. *** recap of posts by others 
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Proud Veteran
Senior Member

United States 205 posts, Jan 2003
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posted 05-01-2003 06:54 AM
From: http://www.healthy-communications.com/msdstitaniumdioxide.html TITANIUM DIOXIDE MSDS Number: T3627 --- Effective Date: 02/15/98 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1. Product Identification Synonyms: Titanium (IV) Oxide; C.I. 77891; Titania CAS No.: 13463-67-7 Molecular Weight: 79.87 Chemical Formula: TiO2 Product Codes: J.T. Baker: 4162, 4962 Mallinckrodt: 0993 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2. Composition/Information on Ingredients Ingredient CAS No Percent Hazardous --------------------------------------- ------------ ------- --------- Titanium Dioxide 13463-67-7 99 - 100% Yes
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3. Hazards Identification Emergency Overview -------------------------- CAUTION! MAY CAUSE IRRITATION TO SKIN, EYES, AND RESPIRATORY TRACT. MAY AFFECT LUNGS. J.T. Baker SAF-T-DATA(tm) Ratings (Provided here for your convenience) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Health Rating: 3 - moderate Flammability Rating: 0 - None Reactivity Rating: 0 - None Contact Rating: 3 - Moderate Lab Protective Equip: GOGGLES; LAB COAT Storage Color Code: Orange (General Storage) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Potential Health Effects ---------------------------------- Inhalation: May cause mild irritation to the respiratory tract. Ingestion: Not expected to be a health hazard via ingestion. Skin Contact: May cause mild irritation and redness. Eye Contact: May cause mild irritation, possible reddening. Chronic Exposure: Long-term exposure to titanium dioxide dust may result in mild fibrosis (scarring of the lungs). Aggravation of Pre-existing Conditions: Persons with pre-existing lung disease may be more susceptible to the effects of this substance. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4. First Aid Measures Inhalation: Remove to fresh air. Get medical attention for any breathing difficulty. Ingestion: Not expected to require first aid measures. If large amounts were swallowed, give water to drink and get medical advice. Skin Contact: Immediately flush skin with plenty of soap and water for at least 15 minutes. Remove contaminated clothing and shoes. Wash clothing before reuse. Thoroughly clean shoes before reuse. Get medical attention if irritation develops. Eye Contact: Immediately flush eyes with plenty of water for at least 15 minutes, lifting upper and lower eyelids occasionally. Get medical attention if irritation persists. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
5. Fire Fighting Measures Fire: Not considered to be a fire hazard. Explosion: Not considered to be an explosion hazard. Fire Extinguishing Media: Use any means suitable for extinguishing surrounding fire. Special Information: In the event of a fire, wear full protective clothing and NIOSH-approved self-contained breathing apparatus with full facepiece operated in the pressure demand or other positive pressure mode. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6. Accidental Release Measures Ventilate area of leak or spill. Wear appropriate personal protective equipment as specified in Section 8. Spills: Sweep up and containerize for reclamation or disposal. Vacuuming or wet sweeping may be used to avoid dust dispersal. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7. Handling and Storage Keep in a tightly closed container, stored in a cool, dry, ventilated area. Protect against physical damage. Containers of this material may be hazardous when empty since they retain product residues (dust, solids); observe all warnings and precautions listed for the product. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8. Exposure Controls/Personal Protection Airborne Exposure Limits: Titanium Dioxide: - OSHA Permissible Exposure Limit (PEL) - 15 mg/m3 (TWA). - ACGIH Threshold Limit Value (TLV) - 10 mg/m3 (TWA), A4 - Not classifiable as a human carcinogen. Ventilation System: A system of local and/or general exhaust is recommended to keep employee exposures below the Airborne Exposure Limits. Local exhaust ventilation is generally preferred because it can control the emissions of the contaminant at its source, preventing dispersion of it into the general work area. Please refer to the ACGIH document, Industrial Ventilation, A Manual of Recommended Practices, most recent edition, for details. Personal Respirators (NIOSH Approved): If the exposure limit is exceeded, a half-face dust/mist respirator may be worn for up to ten times the exposure limit or the maximum use concentration specified by the appropriate regulatory agency or respirator supplier, whichever is lowest. A full-face piece dust/mist respirator may be worn up to 50 times the exposure limit, or the maximum use concentration specified by the appropriate regulatory agency, or respirator supplier, whichever is lowest. For emergencies or instances where the exposure levels are not known, use a full-facepiece positive-pressure, air-supplied respirator. WARNING: Air-purifying respirators do not protect workers in oxygen-deficient atmospheres. Skin Protection: Wear protective gloves and clean body-covering clothing. Eye Protection: Use chemical safety goggles and/or full face shield where dusting or splashing of solutions is possible. Maintain eye wash fountain and quick-drench facilities in work area. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
9. Physical and Chemical Properties Appearance: White Powder. Odor: Odorless. Solubility: Insoluble in water. Specific Gravity: 4.26 pH: ca. 6 - 7 % Volatiles by volume @ 21C (70F): 0 Boiling Point: 2500 - 3000C (4532 - 5432F) Melting Point: 1855C (3371F) Vapor Density (Air=1): Not applicable. Vapor Pressure (mm Hg): Not applicable. Evaporation Rate (BuAc=1): No information found. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
10. Stability and Reactivity Stability: Stable under ordinary conditions of use and storage. Hazardous Decomposition Products: No information found. Hazardous Polymerization: Will not occur. Incompatibilities: For Titanium Dioxide: A violent reaction with lithium occurs around 200C (392F) with a flash of light; the temperature can reach 900C. Violent or incandescent reaction may also occur with other metals such as aluminum, calcium, magnesium, potassium, sodium, and zinc. Conditions to Avoid: Dusting and incompatibles. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 11. Toxicological Information Toxicological Data: No LD50/LC50 information found relating to normal routes of occupational exposure. Investigated as a tumorigen and mutagen. Carcinogenicity: NIOSH considers this substance to be a potential occupational carcinogen. --------\Cancer Lists\------------------------------------------------------ ---NTP Carcinogen--- Ingredient Known Anticipated IARC Category ------------------------------------ ----- ----------- ------------- Titanium Dioxide (13463-67-7) Yes Yes 3 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
15. Regulatory Information --------\Chemical Inventory Status - Part 1\--------------------------------- Ingredient TSCA EC Japan Australia ----------------------------------------------- ---- --- ----- --------- Titanium Dioxide (13463-67-7) Yes Yes Yes Yes --------\Chemical Inventory Status - Part 2\--------------------------------- --Canada-- Ingredient Korea DSL NDSL Phil. ----------------------------------------------- ----- --- ---- ----- Titanium Dioxide (13463-67-7) Yes Yes No No --------\Federal, State & International Regulations - Part 1\---------------- -SARA 302- ------SARA 313------ Ingredient RQ TPQ List Chemical Catg. ----------------------------------------- --- ----- ---- -------------- Titanium Dioxide (13463-67-7) No No No No --------\Federal, State & International Regulations - Part 2\---------------- -RCRA- -TSCA- Ingredient CERCLA 261.33 8(d) ----------------------------------------- ------ ------ ------ Titanium Dioxide (13463-67-7) No No No Chemical Weapons Convention: No TSCA 12(b): No CDTA: No SARA 311/312: Acute: Yes Chronic: Yes Fire: No Pressure: No Reactivity: No (Pure / Solid) Australian Hazchem Code: No information found. Poison Schedule: No information found. WHMIS: This MSDS has been prepared according to the hazard criteria of the Controlled Products Regulations (CPR) and the MSDS contains all of the information required by the CPR. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
16. Other Information NFPA Ratings: Health: 3 Flammability: 0 Reactivity: 0 Label Hazard Warning: CAUTION! MAY CAUSE IRRITATION TO SKIN, EYES, AND RESPIRATORY TRACT. MAY AFFECT LUNGS. Label Precautions: Avoid contact with eyes, skin and clothing. Wash thoroughly after handling. Avoid breathing dust. Keep container closed. Use with adequate ventilation. Label First Aid: In case of contact, immediately flush eyes or skin with plenty of water for at least 15 minutes. Get medical attention if irritation develops or persists. If inhaled, remove to fresh air. Get medical attention for any breathing difficulty. Product Use: Laboratory Reagent. Revision Information: MSDS Section(s) changed since last revision of document include: 1, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 16. Disclaimer: ************************************************************************************************ Mallinckrodt Baker, Inc. provides the information contained herein in good faith but makes no representation as to its comprehensiveness or accuracy. This document is intended only as a guide to the appropriate precautionary handling of the material by a properly trained person using this product. Individuals receiving the information must exercise their independent judgment in determining its appropriateness for a particular purpose. MALLINCKRODT BAKER, INC. MAKES NO REPRESENTATIONS OR WARRANTIES, EITHER EXPRESS OR IMPLIED, INCLUDING WITHOUT LIMITATION ANY WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY, FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE WITH RESPECT TO THE INFORMATION SET FORTH HEREIN OR THE PRODUCT TO WHICH THE INFORMATION REFERS. ACCORDINGLY, MALLINCKRODT BAKER, INC. WILL NOT BE RESPONSIBLE FOR DAMAGES RESULTING FROM USE OF OR RELIANCE UPON THIS INFORMATION. ************************************************************************************************ Prepared by: Strategic Services Division Phone Number: (314) 539-1600 (U.S.A.) 
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United States 205 posts, Jan 2003
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posted 05-01-2003 07:03 AM
A search for Crystalline Silica, Quartz resulted in this: http://www.inchem.org/documents/cicads/cicads/cicad24.htm 9. EFFECTS ON HUMANS
9.1 Case reports There are many published case reports of adverse health effects from occupational exposure to quartz. These health effects include silicosis (acute and chronic) and lung cancer. Case reports of silicosis and lung cancer are not mentioned further, because these diseases have been researched in depth in epidemiological studies (section 9.2). There are numerous published case reports of several autoimmune disorders in workers or patients who had been occupationally exposed to crystalline silica, including quartz dust (NIOSH, forthcoming). The most frequently noted autoimmune diseases in those reports were scleroderma, systemic lupus erythematosus (i.e., lupus), rheumatoid arthritis, autoimmune haemolytic anaemia (Muramatsu et al., 1989), and dermatomyositis or dermatopolymyositis (Robbins, 1974; Koeger et al., 1991). Case reports have also described health effects that may be related to the immunological abnormalities observed in patients with silicosis, such as chronic renal disease (Saita & Zavaglia, 1951; Giles et al., 1978; Hauglustaine et al., 1980; Bolton et al., 1981; Banks et al., 1983; Slavin et al., 1985; Bonnin et al., 1987; Osorio et al., 1987; Arnalich et al., 1989; Sherson & Jorgensen, 1989; Dracon et al., 1990; Pouthier et al., 1991; Rispal et al., 1991; Neyer et al., 1994; Wilke et al., 1996), ataxic sensory neuropathy (Tokumaru et al., 1990), chronic thyroiditis (Masuda, 1981), hyperthyroidism (i.e., Graves' disease) (Koeger et al., 1996), monoclonal gammopathy (Fukata et al., 1983, 1987; Aoki et al., 1988), and polyarteritis nodosa (Arnalich et al., 1989). 9.2 Epidemiological studies 9.2.1 Silicosis Most, if not all, of the several hundred epidemiological studies of exposure to quartz dust are studies of occupational cohorts. The majority of studies investigated the occurrence of silicosis morbidity or mortality. These studies have conclusively linked occupational quartz dust exposure with silicosis. Silicosis (i.e., nodular pulmonary fibrosis) is a fibrotic lung disease, sometimes asymptomatic, that is caused by the inhalation and deposition of respirable crystalline silica particles (i.e., particles <10 µm in diameter) (Ziskind et al., 1976; IARC, 1987). A worker may develop one of three types of silicosis, depending on the airborne concentration of respirable crystalline silica: (1) chronic silicosis, which usually occurs after 10 or more years of exposure at relatively low concentrations; (2) accelerated silicosis, which develops 5-10 years after the first exposure; or (3) acute silicosis, which develops after exposure to high concentrations of respirable crystalline silica and results in symptoms within a few weeks to 4 or 5 years after the initial exposure (Ziskind et al., 1976; Peters, 1986; NIOSH, 1992a,b, 1996). Acute silicosis is a risk for workers with a history of high exposures from performing occupational processes that produce small particles of airborne dust with a high silica content, such as during sandblasting, rock drilling, or quartz milling, or any other process with high exposures to small particles of airborne dust with a high quartz content (Davis, 1996). A recent study of 67 paraffin-embedded lung tissue samples from silicotic patients found a significant linear relationship (P <0.001) between lung quartz concentration and silicosis severity in gold miners; although several types of mineral particles were found in the lungs, quartz was the only significant indicator of silicosis severity. The silicosis cases included 39 patients without lung cancer and 28 patients with lung cancer. All of the cases were gold miners in Canada (Dufresne et al., 1998a,b). The epidemiological studies of silicosis usually define the profusion of small opacities present in the disease according to a standard system used by trained readers and developed by the International Labour Organization for classification of chest radiographs of pneumoconioses (ILO, 1980). Each reader assesses the profusion according to a 12-point scale of severity. Categories 0/- and 0/0 are the first and second points on the scale and represent a normal chest radiograph. The third point, category 0/1, represents the borderline between normality and abnormality, and category 1/0, the fourth point, represents definite, but slight, abnormality (Love et al., 1994). The shape (rounded or irregular) and size of the opacities can also be described by the readers. The critical studies of chronic silicosis, a progressive disease, are those occupational epidemiological studies where (1) quantitative quartz exposure data were available and used for risk analysis, (2) exposure-response relationships were investigated, or (3) the exposure-response relationships were documented with sufficient detail for a health effects benchmark, including (4) application of data to mathematical models that predicted silicosis prevalence at increasing concentrations of cumulative quartz exposure. (The predicted prevalences reported in the studies are discussed in section 11.1.3.) Studies that selected workers from a broad spectrum of occupations and included many workers that were exposed to different combinations of various minerals, such as studies of "dusty trades" workers (i.e., Rice et al., 1986), were excluded from consideration for risk assessment of quartz and silicosis. Epidemiological studies that provided evidence of an exposure-response relationship for silica and silicosis based on other kinds of exposure data (e.g., there is a positive relationship between development of chronic silicosis and duration of exposure) have been reviewed elsewhere (WHO, 1986; Goldsmith, 1994; Hughes, 1995; Rice & Stayner, 1995; Seaton, 1995; Steenland & Brown, 1995a; Davis, 1996; US EPA, 1996). The two critical cross-sectional studies (i.e., Kreiss & Zhen, 1996; Rosenman et al., 1996 -- see Table 6) found that the prevalence of radiographic silicosis (ILO category >1/0 or >1/1) was dose-related. That is, the prevalence of radiographic silicosis increased with average silica dust exposure, cumulative quartz exposure, duration of employment, or all of these measures. The actual prevalences varied greatly among the studies, and conclusions concerning quartz dust concentrations that may or may not induce silicosis cannot be drawn from simple "eyeball" analysis of the prevalences in the following two worker populations: * Kreiss & Zhen (1996) conducted a community-based random sample survey of 134 male residents at least 40 years old, living in a hardrock (i.e., molybdenum, lead, zinc, and gold) mining town in Colorado, USA. Of the 134 residents, 100 were silica-exposed hardrock miners (including 32 silicosis cases) and 34 were community "controls" without occupational dust exposure. Nearly all (97%) of the dust-exposed subjects were 20 years since first exposure. The estimated crystalline silica content (polymorph not reported) of the total dust was 12.3%. Exposure was assessed with information from occupational histories, gravimetric dust exposure data from 1974-1982, and a cumulative silica exposure index. Pre-1974 exposure estimates were based on job-specific gravimetric data collected after 1974. Exposures were also estimated for mines where no exposure data were available (17.1% of person-years of follow-up). Thirty-two per cent of the 100 dust-exposed subjects had silicosis (defined as radiological profusion of small opacities of ILO category >1/0). Prevalence of silicosis was related to average silica dust exposure. Among the 94 dust-exposed subjects with data on cumulative and average dust exposures, those subjects with average silica exposure <0.05 mg/m3 had 10% prevalence of silicosis; subjects with >0.05-0.10 mg/m3 had a prevalence of 22.5%; subjects with greater than 0.10 mg/m3 average silica exposure had a silicosis prevalence of 48.6% (P = 0.01). (See Table 6 for predicted prevalences when silicosis was defined as radiological profusion of small opacities of ILO category >1/1.) It is not known whether the small sample of 134 residents was representative of all miners or if the exposure estimates for mines where no exposure data were available (17.1% of person-years of follow-up) were representative. * Rosenman et al. (1996) conducted a cross-sectional study in 1991 of 549 current, 497 retired, and 26 current salaried workers that were former production workers in a US grey iron foundry that produced automotive engine blocks (total workers = 1072). Twenty-eight cases (2.9%) of silicosis, defined as rounded opacities >ILO category 1/0, were identified by at least two of three "B" readers of a total of 952 chest radiographs. More than half (18/28) of the cases were found in retired workers. Silicosis prevalence was positively related to mean silica (i.e., quartz) exposure (P < 0.0001). Of the workers with mean quartz exposure less than 0.05 mg/m3, 0.8% had silicosis, while 6.3% of foundry workers with mean quartz exposure greater than 0.45 mg/m3 had silicosis. Silicosis prevalence also increased with years of employment at the foundry, cumulative silica exposure, work area within the foundry, and cigarette smoking (i.e., smoker vs. non-smoker). Exposure estimates were derived from conversions of "early silica exposure data" collected by impingers. Quartz content of total dust was not reported. Weighted total dust exposure from impinger data was converted to an estimate of silica exposure in mass units (mg/m3) by multiplying it by the average percentage of quartz in bulk samples. Results of cohort studies of gold miners in South Africa, Canada, and the USA (see Table 7) also demonstrated an exposure-response relationship for radiographic silicosis (US EPA, 1996): * A cohort study was conducted of 2235 white South African underground gold miners, 45-54 years old at the time of medical examination in 1968-1971, who started working after 1938, worked >10 years, and were followed until 1991 (Hnizdo & Sluis-Cremer, 1993). More than 300 (n = 313) of the 2235 miners were followed to the time when radiological signs developed, 658 miners were followed up to death, and 1264 miners were followed to the year of the most recent radiograph. Radiographs were read blindly by two independent readers. Silicosis was defined as the presence of rounded opacities of ILO category >1/1. Radiographs were read blindly by two readers initially, then one reader was chosen because his readings more closely matched the autopsy data. Mean respirable dust concentrations, after heat and acid treatment, in milligrams per cubic metre per shift were calculated for nine gold mining occupations. The concentrations were based on a study of shift-long dust exposure that measured the surface area of the respirable mine dust and the number of respirable particles (i.e., incombustible and acid-insoluble dust particles) per cubic metre in a random sample of 20 South African gold mines (Beadle, 1965, 1971). After heat and acid treatment, the respirable dust in South African gold mines was found to contain about 30% quartz (Beadle & Bradley, 1970). Cumulative dust exposure for the miners was calculated in milligrams per cubic metre-year by using data for mean mass respirable dust concentrations for the nine occupational categories, the average number of hours underground, and the number of dusty 8-h shifts. Of the 2235 miners studied by Hnizdo & Sluis-Cremer (1993), 313 developed radiologically diagnosed silicosis (rounded opacities with profusion of ILO category >1/1) during the follow-up period (i.e., 1968-1971 to 1991). The onset of silicosis occurred after an average (i.e., mean) of 27 years of Table 6: Predicted prevalence of silicosis (ILO category >1/1) following exposure to respirable quartz dust based on modelling of cumulative exposure at mean concentrations of 0.05 or 0.10 mg/m3 over a 45-year working lifetime.
Cross-sectional study Mean concentration of Predicted prevalence of Cohort's mean time Cohort's maximum time and cohort respirable quartz dust silicosis, ILO category since first quartz since first quartz (mg/m3) >1/1 (cases per exposure (years) exposure (years) 100 workers) Kreiss & Zhen, 1996 0.05 approx. 30a silicotic miners: silicotic miners: 41.6 66 100 US hardrock 0.10 approx. 90a non-silicotic non-silicotic miners and 34 miners: 33.5 miners: 68 community controls Rosenman et al., 0.05 2b,c 28 >30 1996 1072 US grey 0.10 3b,c iron foundry workers a Based on cumulative silica exposure model with 10 years of post-employment follow-up. b ILO category >1/0. c Based on a 40-year working lifetime and controlling for pack-years of cigarette smoking, race, and silica exposure other than in the foundry under study. Table 7: Predicted number of silicosis cases (ILO category >1/1) following exposure to respirable quartz dust based on modelling of cumulative exposure at mean concentrations of 0.05 or 0.10 mg/m3 over a 45-year working lifetime. Cohort study Mean concentration of Silicosis cases, Mean time since first Maximum time since and population respirable quartz ILO category >1/1, quartz exposure (years) first quartz exposure dust (mg/m3) per 100 workers (years) Hnizdo & 0.05 13a silicotic miners: 36 silicotic miners: 50 Sluis-Cremer, 1993 2235 South African 0.10 approx. 70 gold miners Muir et al., 0.05 0.09-0.62a,b 18 silicotic miners: 38 1989a,b; Muir, 1991 2109 Canadian gold and uranium miners Steenland & 0.05 10c 37 73d Brown, 1995a 3330 US gold 0.09 47c miners a Estimate was reported in Rice & Stayner (1995). b No post-employment follow-up and no retired miners included. The range includes five estimates (one for each reader). c The predicted number of silicosis cases does not account for effects of age or calendar time (K. Steenland, personal communication, 1997). d K. Steenland, personal communication, 1998. net service, at a mean age of 56 years. For more than half of the miners (n = 178; 57%), the onset occurred an average of 7.4 years (standard deviation 5.5; range 0.1-25 years) after their employment at the mines, at 59 years of age (range 44-74 years). For the other miners (n = 135; 43%), the onset of silicosis occurred while they were still mining, at 51 years of age (range 39-61 years). These results show that the majority of the cases occurred in miners who were no longer employed at the mine and who were at least 50 years old (Hnizdo & Sluis-Cremer, 1993). * Muir and colleagues conducted a study of 2109 current Ontario miners from 21 gold and uranium mines who started working and worked more than 5 years between 1940 and 1959 and were followed to 1982 or to the end of their dust exposure, whichever came first (Muir et al., 1989a,b; Muir, 1991). Any uranium miner with more than 2 weeks of exposure was also included (Muir et al., 1989a). The quartz content of respirable gold mine dust was 6.0%, and that of uranium mine dust was 8.4%. Retired and former miners were not included in the study. Sources of data for this study were full-sized annual chest radiographs taken for all miners after 1927 and periodic (pre-1959) and semi-annual mine dust measurements obtained with a konimeter (which is an instantaneous dust sampler that measures the number of particles per unit volume of air; Verma et al., 1989). Konimeter dust measurements taken from 1940 to 1952 were expressed in particles per cubic centimetre of air (ppcc). Verma et al. (1989) initiated an extensive, side-by-side comparison of the konimetric and gravimetric (i.e., milligrams of silica per cubic metre) sampling to derive a konimetric/gravimetric silica conversion curve. A total of 2360 filter (i.e., nylon cyclone-filter assembly in a constant-flow pump) samples and 90 000 konimeter samples were taken in a 2-year period in two gold and uranium mines, in existing conditions as well as in an experimental simulation of the high-dust conditions of the past caused by dry drilling (Verma et al., 1989). The results of the conversion relationship were non-linear and may have reflected the limitations of the konimeter in measuring high dust (i.e., high count) concentrations and the limitations of the gravimetric sampler in measuring low dust concentrations. There were different relationships for the gold and uranium mines, possibly because of the different fractional silica concentrations in the host rock. The conversion of the historical konimeter counts to gravimetric respirable silica equivalents was used to derive a cumulative respirable silica dose for each miner based on the miner's respirable silica dose for each year, mine, and task in his work history (Verma et al., 1989). Thirty-two of the 2109 hardrock miners studied by Muir and colleagues were considered by at least one of five readers to have silicosis (small, rounded opacities with profusion of ILO category >1/1). However, the results differed among the five readers and "complicated the analysis" (Muir et al., 1989b). One of the five readers identified only seven cases of silicosis (Muir et al., 1989b). The results were presented by individual reader and by consensus. A consensus of all of the five readers with respect to identification of silicosis was reached on only six cases (Muir et al., 1989b). Average respirable quartz dust exposure for the cases was not reported. * A cohort study of 3330 white male underground gold miners from South Dakota employed for at least 1 year between 1940 and 1965 and followed through 1990 found 170 cases of silicosis (128 cases were identified on death certificates, 29 cases were found during X-ray surveys of workers conducted in 1960 and 1976, and 13 cases were identified on both X-ray and death certificate). Cases were defined as (1) an underlying or contributing cause of death of silicosis, silico-tuberculosis, respiratory tuberculosis, or pneumoconiosis, and/or (2) ILO category >1/1 silicosis identified in the 1976 radiographic survey or "small opacities" or "large opacities" identified in the 1960 radiographic survey (Steenland & Brown, 1995a). The miners were exposed to a median quartz level of 0.05 mg/m3 (0.15 mg/m3 for workers hired prior to 1930). The average length of follow-up was 37 years, and the average length of employment underground was 9 years. Quartz exposure was estimated by converting dust particle counts to gravimetric measurements (i.e., mg/m3), based on an estimate of 13% quartz content of total dust. A job-exposure matrix was created to estimate dust exposures for each job over time, then average dust exposures for the job categories were calculated using existing measurements for each year from 1937 to 1975. The estimated daily dust exposures (constant over each year) were weighted to account for daily time spent underground. Summation of the estimated daily dust levels over time provided an estimate of cumulative quartz exposure (Steenland & Brown, 1995a). The risk of silicosis was less than 1% for miners with a cumulative exposure less than 0.5 mg/m3-years. The risk increased to 68-84% for the highest cumulative exposure category (i.e., 4 mg/m3-years) (Steenland & Brown, 1995a). Silicosis risk estimates could have been affected by (1) combining silicosis deaths with silicosis cases detected by cross-sectional radiographic surveys, (2) differences in quartz content of dust in early years, and (3) lack of dust measurements before 1937. A cohort study of a subcohort of the South Dakota gold miners described above analysed cases of silicosis that were reported as the underlying cause of death on the death certificates. Forty cases of silicosis, as well as 49 cases of tuberculosis, were ascertained among the 1321 miners employed for at least 21 years and followed through 1973. There was a linear trend in risk of about 2.4% for each 0.1 mg/m3 of silica exposure. However, this study does not meet the criteria for a critical study because risk by cumulative quartz exposure was not calculated (McDonald & Oakes, 1984). In the five critical studies described above, the number of cases identified depended upon the definition of silicosis (radiographic category and whether irregular opacities were included), the quality of the evaluation of the chest radiographs (e.g., number and training of readers), the duration of dust exposure, and the duration of follow-up after the end of exposure. Interstudy variation exists for each of these factors. In addition, exposure assessments in these studies were accompanied by uncertainties, such as the use of conversion equations (i.e., converting particle count data to mass concentrations; application of equations from one industry to a different industry) and estimation of quartz content of the dust. It is not uncommon for epidemiological studies to lack characterization of the source and properties of the mineral dusts collected in the workplace (Mossman & Churg, 1998). Nevertheless, the critical studies found an exposure-response relationship for respirable quartz dust that, when modelled, predicts the occurrence of silicosis cases in various industries at exposures close to regulatory levels. 
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theseeker
One moon circles

Damnit...I'm a doctor jim 3297 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 05-01-2003 10:49 AM
the US Navy patented a device for producing "a powder contrail having maximum radiation-scattering ability." let's see a "physical" real already built c. generator.... then on a plane... then in use... then let's see the enormous fleet that sprays the world... how about we meet a few of the pilots, ground crew and mantinence... damn that should be easy with all the folks involved eh shitoga ? common sense is a trait left out of the liberal gene pool... 

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Fastwalker
Senior Member
832 posts, Mar 2003
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posted 05-01-2003 11:59 AM
Wow...I miss alot when I'm away. Thanks for thinking I'm Seeker or Dunkeroo...I find that very complimentary btw, but I'm not. As Hawkeye Pierce once said when referring to women's pantyhose; "would it t'were that I were they…(but alas I am not)"....Ok, sorry for venturing into Dan Rockwell's world for a second there.. Basically, Lulu's got me pegged I think, but she doesn't have to be hostile about it, because I still really like her, even though our political views may differ. Besides, we pro-American, anti-chemmie, vast right wing conspiracy conservatives have been vindicated on just about every argument. Feels good to be right....Damn good…. 
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Lulu
ice behaving badly

right here 2440 posts, Dec 2000
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posted 05-01-2003 12:39 PM
Me? Hostile? Bwwwwwwhhaawhaahahahaaa  
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Fastwalker
Senior Member
832 posts, Mar 2003
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posted 05-01-2003 01:57 PM
Just a leeeetle hostile....
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Lulu
ice behaving badly

right here 2440 posts, Dec 2000
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posted 05-01-2003 04:02 PM
LOL just a leeeetle anal retentive Fast Walker? 
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Fastwalker
Senior Member
832 posts, Mar 2003
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posted 05-01-2003 05:09 PM
Leave my bowel functions out of this...I drink plenty of green tea.
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shatoga
Agent Provocateur
588 posts, Nov 2002
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posted 05-01-2003 11:05 PM
Kudos PV.A cut & paste comparable to Mech's style. Quite good! See how facts argue for themselves. Point well made that: The old and weak suffer most from either West Nile, chemtrails and/or SARS with similar symptoms yet.... Point well made! Makes insults seem even more childish by comparison to yours & Mech's posted facts. Thanks.

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theseeker
One moon circles

Damnit...I'm a doctor jim 3297 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 05-02-2003 12:34 AM
The old and weak suffer most from eitherwhen has the old and weak not suffer more ? 
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