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Molliani
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Illinois
346 posts, Mar 2001

posted 05-02-2003 12:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Molliani     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Fastwalker:

[ Besides, we pro-American, anti-chemmie, vast right wing conspiracy conservatives have been vindicated on just about every argument. Feels good to be right....Damn good…]

FW
I suggest you read about the label you're
so willing to pin on yourself. You're in for a big surprise.

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Proud Veteran
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United States
205 posts, Jan 2003

posted 05-02-2003 01:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Proud Veteran     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I might have a cut and paste style comparable to a lot of people's here, but I cut and paste facts, not bullshit aimed at degrading America, America's government, and America's people.

I work in healthcare and have gotten some of the doctors I work with interested in this.

I still don't believe that the government is doing anything on purpose to harm the people of the world.

[Edited 1 times, lastly by Proud Veteran on 05-02-2003]

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Fastwalker
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832 posts, Mar 2003

posted 05-02-2003 03:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastwalker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
FW
I suggest you read about the label you're
so willing to pin on yourself. You're in for a big surprise.

All words are labels really ..They express ideas and concepts. I am a conservative..I know what the modern meaning of conservative is. I'm really not in for a surprise.


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shatoga
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588 posts, Nov 2002

posted 05-04-2003 07:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for shatoga     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In actual practice-
The self proclaimed 'conservatives' stand for:

"one party rule by an elite minority"
by any means necessary*

-Communism (one party rule by an elite minority)
-Nazism (one party rule by an elite minority)
-Conservatism (one party rule by an elite minority)
'CNC unification'?

There is
A bad Moon on the Rise
http://www.rickross.com/reference/unif/unif112.html
______________________________
>Moon claims on his Web Site http://www.unification.net
that he had great influence over Reagan. Moon claims he was the one who got Reagan to go for SDI (Star Wars). Moon claims that through the Washington Times,
a Moonie owned newspaper, that he is responsible for Bush winning the presidency in 1988.
Since than President Bush has appeared at Moonies events and endorsed the cause of the moonies. So has former president Ford. Moon has spend at least 2 Billion Dollars influencing American Politics, Christian Organizations, and the American Press.<

http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2001/132/33.0.html http://www.rickross.com/reference/unif/unif112.html
>Frederick Clarkson (Eternal Hostility, Common Courage Press, 1997) reports that Moon has stated his goal is the "subjugation of the American government and population." (Clarkson's source: John Judis, "Rev. Moon's Rising Political Influence: His Empire Is Spending Big Money To Try To Win Favor With Conservatives," U. S. News and World Report, March 27, 1989.)

According to former Unification church members, Moon's program to "instill discipline" included showing "Nazi films on organizing Hitler Youth."<

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Fastwalker
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832 posts, Mar 2003

posted 05-04-2003 12:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastwalker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Actually conservatives are for a two party system because that's how America was designed to function. We are for conserving this form of government as it was originally designed. But, we are also for cleaning up the corruption so prevalent in the Democrat party and the fourth estate..(the media)....Due to the conservative movement, the liberal/leftist bias in the media is now exposed and public awareness of it has heightened to a degree where liberals are struggling if not dying out altogether.

It's the same with corrupt, liberal leftist politicians. They have been exposed for what they are either by themselves or with the help of conservative media.

The second party (Democrat party) is failing under the weight of it's own corruption, lies, and socialist, anti-American agenda....not because conservatives want a one party system. We want an honest two party system....Personally I'd prefer it if the two parties where Republicans and Libertarians (which will likely not happen). I'd love to see the libertarian mindset replace the radical leftists in the current crop of Democrats though.... Then we could have honest debate in America.

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Mech
Resisting the NWO


Northeast USA
3907 posts, Sep 2002

posted 05-04-2003 03:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mech   Visit Mech's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"--The second party (Democrat party) is failing under the weight of it's own corruption, lies, and socialist, anti-American agenda..--"


The Neo-Conservatives LIKE BU$H are the most Anti-American, corrupt, LYING..Big government Pimps ever to take office. They are like Bill Clinton on crack. They take every opportunity to reduce American liberty and are the BIGGEST SOCIALISTS for global corporations...handing out HUGE tax breaks for them..AKA Corportae welfare.

I smell hypocricy...AGAIN.

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shatoga
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588 posts, Nov 2002

posted 05-04-2003 10:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for shatoga     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
1992
the Republican's worst nightmare:
control of the White House by Bill Clinton
Control of the Senate and House of Representatives by Democrats resulted in:

the passage of
the 1993 Budget Reconciliation Act.
which Alan Greenspan many times credited with balancing the budget, putting every American who wanted a job to work, and the most prosperous American economy in history.

With not one single Republican vote!
and all rightwing PRopagandists predicting it would destroy our economy.
(they wanted 'tax cuts for the rich' to put people to work)


What else did they do?

Repeal the Constitution?
No!
Bush and a Republican congress did that in 2001 and 2002.

Pass national health care?
No Democrats are too busy fighting among themselves to be any real threat to our nation our our system.

They regularly shed the worst vermin among them to the other side.
Dixiecrat race haters and bigots: Strom Thurmond Phil Gramm and many more.
Political Opportunists with no real principles:
Arlen Spector, Tom Ridge, Ben Nighthorse-Campbell

Republicans of conscience become Libertarians.
Democrats without any conscience sellout to the highest bidder Republican Parody members.

Yes, I agree; one third to two-thirds of Democrats are sell-outs.

Both sides are corrupt.
Only a matter of scale.

Lock step to the leader's orders on the right..
Each thinks s/he and only s/he has the answers on the left.

The lesser of two evils!

What we really need is a Liberal Republican
or a Moderate Democrat in every office.
(same thing either way)

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