posted 05-15-2003 12:23 PM            

I gave my reason for wanting to know from you.

"I'm off to the movie's....."

posted 05-15-2003 12:48 PM            

You have shown nothing but hatred for everything I write...Calling me a "commie", "socialist" etc...ad nauseum.

Why should I show you any respect?

posted 05-15-2003 01:12 PM               

To Chemcaptain..... You're sad man! As far as links on my site, I've taken time to put things in one spot for those that ARE interested. You can take your lame butt and CONFIRM what I've said but of course you're more content labeling them 'conspiracy theories.'

Is the media telling us the truth? HELL NO! And that's on MOST topics.

Is it possible that Jr. is a 'Mini-me' CLONE of his SATANIST CIA daddy with REAL CIA conspiracy theories driving his policies?

HELL YES and I spend hours each day archiving DOCUMENTATION of this CHemcapt? would rather close his and OTHER's eyes to!

Is it possible that this satanist is setting up his own friends to make money off wars and STAGED 'terrorism'???

Bechtel, Haliburton and the CARLYLE GROUP???

HELL YEAH!!

All while this SCUM leaves our borders WIDE OPEN and tells us more 'terrorism' is certain and coming!

HE'S THE TERRORIST AND HIS CIA SATANIST DADDY IS THE STRATEGIST!!!

posted 05-15-2003 01:57 PM            

Why should I show you any respect?

Research it yourself...if you have the balls.

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I asked because I wanted to see if you actually know, and aren't just throwing around words, I said this in my post.

I'll ask a third time, what does it mean/what is it.

I don't have hatred for what you write, I have a bit of sadness, a lot of laughter, then some disgust for your ignorance.

Larry, You're gonna discredit any arguement mech has with your rambling.

posted 05-15-2003 04:13 PM            

does that mean I'm going to go out and do twice the amount of bad things larry ?

posted 05-15-2003 05:15 PM            

Chemmie posted:
>I do have an idea though, why don't you try and make your own country? Adopt the american constitution and follow it how you want.<

Already got it Chemmie, the USA (is our country) let us follow the US Constitution "to the letter" exactly as it's written in plain English.
U.S.Constitution
Article VI
This Constitution, and the laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof;
and all treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States,
shall be the supreme law of the land;
and the judges in every state shall be bound thereby,
anything in the Constitution or laws of any State to the contrary notwithstanding.

BTW
'triggers'
Having the respect and decency to actually do a search
(instead of being trapped in hidebound concepts)
I found mention:
(at a website who's name will chill the blood of any conservative Bushite)
"Religious Tolerance" http://www.religioustolerance.org/sra.htm http://www.religioustolerance.org/mind_cnt.htm
>along with alter programming, certain triggers are established that will cause a particular alter to emerge and perform their pre-programmed function. These triggers may be a word, sound, color, picture, time, date, hand sign, etc., or a combination of events.<

Neo con/
Germany's rightwing pro business, anti union, anti liberal, anti free speech, anticommunist, pro military God and Country Party
was very conservative.
The name (like most Conservative labels) was a lie.

NASI=con/ neo-Nazi=neo-conservative

You zieg heilers scream louder (carping whining conservatives)
when we use 'the N word'
(In My Well Informed Opinion-
the 'Parody" that has taken over the once Proud Republican Party
has fused the worst elements of Communism & Nazism into a 'Unification"

under the directorship of Rev. Sun Yung Moon:
who is unifying rightwingers worldwide under his leadership:

There is http://www.rickross.com/reference/unif/unif112.html
A bad Moon on the Rise
The magician does a flourish with one hand, to attract our attention;
while, with the other hand, he does the trick!
______________________________
>Moon claims on his Web Site http://www.unification.net
that he had great influence over Reagan. Moon claims he was the one who got Reagan to go for SDI (Star Wars). Moon claims that through the Washington Times,
a Moonie owned newspaper, that he is responsible for Bush winning the presidency in 1988.
Since than President Bush has appeared at Moonies events and endorsed the cause of the moonies. So has former president Ford. Moon has spend at least 2 Billion Dollars influencing American Politics, Christian Organizations, and the American Press.<
http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2001/132/33.0.html http://www.rickross.com/reference/unif/unif112.html
>Frederick Clarkson (Eternal Hostility, Common Courage Press, 1997) reports that Moon has stated his goal is the "subjugation of the American government and population." {B}(Clarkson's source: John Judis, "Rev. Moon's Rising Political Influence: His Empire Is Spending Big Money To Try To Win Favor With Conservatives," U. S. News and World Report, March 27, 1989.)
according to former Unification church members, Moon's program to "instill discipline" included showing "Nazi films on organizing Hitler Youth."< http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/programs/categories/info/1009.html http://www.catch22.com/~vudu/moon.html
>The "Reverend" Sun Myung Moon is the leader of one of the world's most insidious and influential cults--one with an estimated $10 billion in business assets worldwide. His church controls TheWashington Times ( America's capital's second largest daily newspaper), Paragon Publishers of New York, the University of Bridgeport,the Christian Bernard jewelery chain, Happy World toy and clothing outlets, and China's Panda Motors. He also sponsors such bogus right-wing organizations as the "World Media Association" and the "International Cultural Foundation" which seek to lend legitimacy to this cult. He has hoodwinked a number of none-too-erudite politicians, scholars, and religious leaders worldwide into lending their name to his support. One, suprisingly, is none other than Rodrigo and Estrella Carazo Odio, Costa Rica's former president and first lady, who were listed as members of the "International Host Committee" who welcomed Moon during his 1993 world tour. They were in the company of such personages as Donald Reid-Cabral--the right-wing, CIA-payrolled "interim" president of the Dominican Republic who was named to that post after a US-instigated coup overthrew democratically elected president Juan Bosch in 1963. < http://www.realjournalism.net/times.htm

I worked at Universal Studios for a few years.
Those I met and talked to sometimes used my stories (among those of others) in the scripts they invariably wrote.
they don't imagine all that gov't conspiracy stuff.
People tell them tales about it.

Flame away (web of deceit) Debunkers

I'm onto all your tricks.
I used to be on the Darkside
Campaigned for Goldwater (a real conservative)
Campaigned for Nixon
-socially Liberal, (forced busing to end integration/ national health Insurance bill)-
- fiscally socialist -wage&Price controls in peacetime!-
& against the Constitution=Conservative (who authorized Artichoke MKULTRA, FBI breakins and murders, and the rest)
Campaigned for George (opium) Poppy Bush, back when he was my congressman in Houston TX.
(Before Ron Paul used W's drug use to beat Poppy in a primary)

Join me.
Come into the light.
Don't worry;
the devil will always take you back!

posted 05-15-2003 06:10 PM            

quote:

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me 2...will you be my movie date mr cookie?

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posted 05-15-2003 08:39 PM            

It's an amazing piece of fiction.

posted 05-15-2003 08:39 PM            

I happen to find many movies entertaining

posted 05-15-2003 08:45 PM            

I can see parlells in the movie that reflect our world situation today.

Only it's not a killer computer we are facing...

It's a killer SYSTEM...run by the globalists/illuminati

But hey...that's how my mind works.

posted 05-15-2003 09:01 PM            

You have to remember the grim, meat hook realities of living in 21st Century high tech globalism.

At the same time, without art, theatre and creativity, humans wouldn't be much more than unexiting robots.

posted 05-15-2003 11:47 PM            

Here you go guv:

>To quote O'Brien from 1984:
The Party seeks power entirely for its own sake. We are not interested in the good of others; we are interested solely in power...
We are different from all the oligarchies of the past in that we know what we are doing...
The German Nazis and the Russian Communists came very close to us in their methods,
but they never had the courage to recognize their own motives.
They pretended, perhaps they even believed, that they had seized power unwillingly and for a limited time...
Power is not a means; it is an end.<

Newtspeak is far more insidious than Newspeak. http://web.utk.edu/~glenn/PropTechniques.html
freethinkers will follow links to
-1990 GOPAC Memo on Language-
-Article on G.O.P. list of 133 words-
-Marcer Mercer on "Newtspeak"-

Falwellian nightmare is more horrible than Orwellian nightmare visions.
(search "falwellian" for dozens of cute true websites) http://www.geocities.com/alanjpakula/

This is a reality
with an endless war, total surveillance, and total submission,
and total ostracism for free thinkers.
http://www.geocities.com/alanjpakula/

posted 05-16-2003 10:04 AM               

I am ALSO GOING LULU!

You completely missed the point here.

Only those kids who've been PRE-CONDITIONED by these SICK CIA programs are in danger of being 'triggered' to commit shootings. Go rent "Conspiracy Theory" "Mind Field" or the classic "The Manchurian Candidate."

My warning is to those who'd SUPPORT GUN CONFISCATION ONCE THOSE SHOOTINGS START!

DON'T SUPPORT THE MILLION COMMIE MOMMIES like fools did after Columbine or your supporting the sick satanist scum that are REALLY responsible for those kids MURDERS to push a political agenda.

It's OK Lulu, I know your mind doesn't run this deep to see these kind of plans. Fortunately most people DON'T but Bush SENIOR was CIA and this type of deviant planning was what he DID AND IS STILL DOING!

Most people will just see fancy Sci-fi flick with conditioned desensitivity to more violence. There ARE other underlying SPIRITUAL attack that people don't understand though also.

See: Forget sci-fi and guns - The Matrix is really about religion http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/3027027.stm

Matrix game aims to set new standard http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/3021461.stm

posted 05-16-2003 11:03 AM            

Actually I think it's cause Lulu ain't Crazaay!

Sorry I can't help my self... I'll stop calling you crazy, no need for personal insults... cough.

Media desensitising to violence? Well, realistically, no, not at... possible? sure.

We have much less violence in our media than a lot of country's children see in the streets.

posted 05-16-2003 12:01 PM               

You got that right! You think NOT that is.

Just as you've been TRAINED to do by the public FOOL system.

It doesn't take but a cursory glance to see that Shatoga posting here has actual knowledge of what I've been pointing out here.

While you Chemcapt merely have a pointy HEAD!

DUH! Is it logical to assume that BAD people will position themselves in power to make money and CONTROL others.... Yeah!

Is it logical that without morals, they'll STAGE incidents to create CONTROL that people would not normally give them? DUH!

This is exhibited in so MANY MOVIES but is also happening in REAL LIFE with SATAN Bush's, Cheney and others.

Take "Judge Dredd" where a corrupt councilman shoots himself in the arm then BLAMES Dredd!

Take Hitler who burned down the Reichstag then BLAMED his enemies for doing it. Same with Bush and the WTC. Daddy Bush's CIA have their fingerprints ALL OVER THIS!

Take the latest "Star Wars - Clone" movie where a corrupt Senator Palpatine gets himself voted EMERGENCY POWERS TO CONTROL EVERYTHING by ALLOWING the 'Republic' to be attacked by a robot army so he can look like a saviour by repelling it with a CLONE army. This will turn against the PEOPLE later as all will be declared REBELS.

Just as Satan boy Bush is now setting up!

And the corrupt 'king' can't have the peasants fighting back by being ARMED!

Enter the Hegelian Dialectic of "Order ob Chao" which is also the MASONIC credo.

You CREATE CHAOS so you can install YOUR ORDER.

Hmmmmm! Who was it that announced a "New World Odor" on SEPTEBER 11, 1991???

SATAN BOY DADDY BUSH!!

You don't think he'd kill some kids to get people to DISARM?

You don't KNOW THIS SCUM AT ALL THEN! You don't KNOW the history and low level activities our drug running CIA would go to.

And Because of that 'Chemcapt' YOU ARE A DANGEROUS IDIOT BY ALLOWING THEM TO CONTINUE WITH YOUR MORONIC WHITE NOISE 'CONSPIRACY THEORY' DIVERSIONS!!

posted 05-16-2003 01:37 PM               

The EVIDENCE out there speaks VOLUMES against your ignorance!

"There are NONE so blind as those who REFUSE to see!"

Gun grabbing politicians put their hope in George Bush to save gun ban http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2003/05/15/MN254624.DTL
Only President Bush can save the law banning AK-47s, Uzis and other rapid-fire guns now that House Majority Leader Tom DeLay has declared his intention to block its renewal, Sen. Dianne Feinstein and other proponents said Wednesday.

The perfect enemy: Terrorists who can't be caught because they don't exist or because they're CIA assets http://www.onlinejournal.com/Commentary/051403Kaminski/051403kaminski.html

Officials Who Failed to Put Hijackers on Watch List Not Named. http://www.nytimes.com/2003/05/15/international/worldspecial/15INTE.html?ex=1053576000&en=6c4bdfe71f391a1e&ei=5062&partner=GOOGLE

CIA chief refuses to publicly disclose names of government officials responsible for 9/11 intelligence failures
Seven months after telling Congress he would do so, George J. Tenet, the director of central intelligence, has yet to provide the names of agency officials responsible for one of the most glaring intelligence mistakes leading up to the attacks of Sept. 11, according to Congressional and agency officials. http://www.nytimes.com/2003/05/15/international/worldspecial/15INTE.html

Target of Suicide Bombing Formerly Owned by Carlyle Group
'Fortunate coincidence' that 50 of 70 Vinnell employees were away on a training mission
U.S. and Saudis Sensed Attacks Were Imminent http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,3-679768,00.html

Firm In Riyadh A Cover For CIA http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,3-679768,00.html

No WMDs http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article3376.htm

BushCo Cons Nation - No WMDS, No Excuse For War http://sfgate.com/columnists/morford/

Bush Only 'Embarrassed' Over Lack of WMDs http://news.independent.co.uk/world/politics/story.jsp?story=406655

Something Fishy – Where Are All the WMDs? http://www.antiwar.com/spectator/spec10.html

Bush as a Product: Selling the Television Image of Bush to Mask His Extremist Ideology http://www.nytimes.com/2003/05/16/politics/16IMAG.html