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Mech
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5958 posts, Jun 2001

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MASS CORRUPTION ON A GRAND SCALE

$1 Trillion Goes Missing From Defense Budget
Critics Called Unpatriotic

5/24/03 2:30:33 PM
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San Francisco Chronicle

Washington, DC -- http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi? file=/c/a/2003/05/18/MN251738.DTL

Military waste under fire

Tom Abate, Chronicle Staff Writer Sunday, May 18, 2003

The Department of Defense, already infamous for spending $640 for a toilet seat, once again finds itself under intense scrutiny, only this time because it couldn't account for more than a trillion dollars in financial transactions, not to mention dozens of tanks, missiles and planes.

The Pentagon's unenviable reputation for waste will top the congressional agenda this week, when the House and Senate are expected to begin floor debate on a Bush administration proposal to make sweeping changes in how the Pentagon spends money, manages contracts and treats civilian employees.

The Bush proposal, called the Defense Transformation for the 21st Century Act, arrives at a time when the nonpartisan General Accounting Office has raised the volume of its perennial complaints about the financial woes at Defense, which recently failed its seventh audit in as many years.

"Overhauling DOD's financial management operations represent a challenge that goes far beyond financial accounting to the very fiber of (its) . . . business operations and culture," GAO chief David Walker told lawmakers in March.

WHAT HAPPENED TO $1 TRILLION?

Though Defense has long been notorious for waste, recent government reports suggest the Pentagon's money management woes have reached astronomical proportions. A study by the Defense Department's inspector general found that the Pentagon couldn't properly account for more than a trillion dollars in monies spent. A GAO report found Defense inventory systems so lax that the U.S.

Army lost track of 56 airplanes, 32 tanks, and 36 Javelin missile command launch-units.

And before the Iraq war, when military leaders were scrambling to find enough chemical and biological warfare suits to protect U.S. troops, the department was caught selling these suits as surplus on the Internet "for pennies on the dollar," a GAO official said.

Given these glaring gaps in the management of a Pentagon budget that is approaching $400 billion, the coming debate is shaping up as a bid to gain the high ground in the battle against waste, fraud and abuse.

"We are overhauling our financial management system precisely because people like David Walker are rightly critical of it," said Dov Zakheim, the Pentagon's chief financial officer and prime architect of the Defense Department's self-styled fiscal transformation.

Among the provisions in the 207-page plan, the department is asking Congress to allow Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld to replace the civil service system governing 700,000 nonmilitary employees with a new system to be detailed later.

The plan would also eliminate or phase out more than a hundred reports that now tell Congress, for instance, which Defense contractors support the Arab boycott of Israel and when U.S. special forces train foreign soldiers, as well as many studies of program costs.

The administration's proposal, which would also give Rumsfeld greater authority to move money between accounts and exempt Defense from certain environmental statutes, prompted influential House Democrats to write Speaker Dennis Hastert last week complaining that the proposals would "increase the level of waste, fraud, and abuse . . . by vastly reducing (Defense) accountability."

"The Congress has increased defense spending from $300 billion to $400 billion over three years at the same time that the Pentagon has failed to address financial problems that dwarf those of Enron," said Rep. Henry Waxman, D-Los Angeles, one of the letter's signatories.

Saying critics of the bill "were arguing for more paperwork," Hastert spokesman John Feehery said his boss would support the Bush reforms on the House floor. "The purpose is to streamline the Pentagon to become a less bureaucratic and more efficient organization . . . while also making it more accountable," Feehery said.

PROCESS WILL TAKE MONTHS

The debate will center around the defense authorization bill, the policy- setting prelude to the defense appropriations measure that comes up later in the session. With the House and Senate considering different versions of the transformation proposals, it will be months before each passes its own bill and reconciles any differences.

But few on Capitol Hill would deny that, when it comes to fiscal management,

Defense is long overdue for "transformation."

In congressional testimony Rumsfeld himself has said "the financial reporting systems of the Pentagon are in disarray . . . they're not capable of providing the kinds of financial management information that any large organization would have."

GAO reports detail not only the woeful state of Defense fiscal controls, but the cost of failed attempts to fix them.

For instance, in June 2002 the GAO reviewed the history of a proposed Corporate Information Management system, or CIM. The initiative began in 1989 as an attempt to unify more than 2,000 overlapping systems then being used for billing, inventory, personnel and similar functions. But after "spending about $20 billion, the CIM initiative was eventually abandoned," the GAO said.

Gregory Kutz, director of GAO's financial management division and co-author of that report, likened Defense to a dysfunctional corporation, with the Pentagon cast as a holding company exercising only weak fiscal control over its subsidiaries -- the Army, Navy, Air Force and Marines. Today, DOD has about 2,200 overlapping financial systems, Kutz said, and just running them costs taxpayers $18 billion a year.

"The (Pentagon's) inability to even complete an audit shows just how far they have to go," he said.

Kutz contrasted the department's loose inventory controls to state-of-the- art systems at private corporations.

"I've been to Wal-Mart," Kutz said. "They were able to tell me how many tubes of toothpaste were in Fairfax, Va., at that given moment. And DOD can't find its chem-bio suits."

CRITICS CALLED UNPATRIOTIC

Danielle Brian, director of the Project on Governmental Oversight, a nonprofit group in Washington, D.C., said waste has become ingrained in the Defense budget because opposition to defense spending is portrayed as unpatriotic, and legislators are often more concerned about winning Pentagon pork than controlling defense waste.

"You have a black hole at the Pentagon for money and a blind Congress," Brian said.

But things may be changing.

GAO's Kutz said Rumsfeld has "showed a commitment" to cutting waste and asked Pentagon officials to save 5 percent of the defense budget, which would mean a $20 billion savings.

Legislators are also calling attention to Defense waste. "Balancing the military's books is not as exciting as designing or purchasing the next generation of airplanes, tanks, or ships, but it is just as important," Sen. Robert Byrd, D-W.V., said last week. In a hearing last month about cost overruns, Rep. John Duncan, R-Tenn., of the House Committee on Government Reform said: "I've always considered myself to be a pro-military type person, but that doesn't mean I just want to sit back and watch the Pentagon waste billions and billions of dollars."

But while Capitol Hill sees the need, and possibly has the will to reform the Pentagon, the devil remains in the details, and the administration aroused Democratic suspicions when it dropped its 207-page transformation bill on lawmakers on April 10 -- leaving scant time to scrutinize proposals that touch many aspects of the biggest department in government.

"We have as much problem with the process as with the substance," said said Rep. John Spratt, D-S.C., who co-signed Waxman's letter calling the transformation bill "an effort by the Department to substantially reduce congressional oversight and public accountability."

Defense's Zakheim counters that the reform proposals would "remove the barnacles of past practices (and provide) DOD with modern day management while preserving congressional oversight and prerogatives."

But Waxman, a critic of the administration's handling of Iraqi reconstruction contracts, called the proposals "a military wish list" to take advantage of "the wartime feeling."

"Secretary Rumsfeld is hoping to march through Congress like he marched through Iraq," Waxman said.

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How We Got Into This Imperial Pickle: A PNAC Primer
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article3544.htm

By: Bernard Weiner

05/27/03: Recently, I was the guest on a radio talk-show hosted by a thoroughly decent far-right Republican. I got verbally battered, but returned fire and, I think, held my own. Toward the end of the hour, I mentioned that the National Security Strategy -- promulgated by the Bush Administration in September 2002 -- now included attacking possible future competitors first, assuming regional hegemony by force of arms, controlling energy resources around the globe, maintaining a permanent-war strategy, etc.

"I'm not making up this stuff," I said. "It's all talked about openly by the neo-conservatives of the Project for the New American Century -- who now are in charge of America's military and foreign policy -- and published as official U.S. doctrine in the National Security Strategy of the United States of America."

The talk-show host seemed to gulp, and then replied: "If you really can demonstrate all that, you probably can deny George Bush a second term in 2004."

Two things became apparent in that exchange:

1) Even a well-educated, intelligent radio commentator was unaware of some of this information; and,

2) Once presented with it, this conservative icon understood immediately the implications of what would happen if the American voting public found out about these policies.

So, a large part of our job in the run-up to 2004 is to get this information out to those able to hear it and understand the implications of an imperial foreign/military policy on our economy, on our young people in uniform, on our moral sense of ourselves as a nation, on our constitutional freedoms, on our constitutional freedoms, and on our treaty obligations -- which is to say, our respect for the rule of law.

Nearly 40% of Bush's support is fairly solid, but there is a block of about 20% in-between that 40% and the 40% who can be counted upon to vote for a reasonable Democratic candidate -- and that 20% is where the election will be decided. We need to reach a goodly number of those moderate (and even some traditionally conservative) Republicans and independents with the facts inherent in the dangerous, reckless, and expensive policies carried out by the Bush Administration.

When these voters become aware of how various, decades-old, popular programs are being rolled back or eliminated (because there's no money available for them, because that money is being used to fight more and more wars, and because income to the federal coffers is being siphoned-off in costly tax-cuts to the wealthiest sectors of society), that 20% may be a bit more open to hearing what we have to say.

When it's your kids' schools being short-changed, and your state's and city's services to citizens being chopped, your bridges and parks and roadways and libraries and public hospitals being neglected, your IRAs and pensions losing their value, and your job not being as secure as in years past -- in short, when you can see the connection between Bush&Co.'s expensive military policies and your thinner wallet and reduced social amenities, true voter-education becomes possible. It's still the economy, stupid.

Origins Of The Crisis

Most of us Americans saw the end of the Cold War as a harbinger of a more peaceful globe, and we relaxed knowing that the communist world was no longer a threat to the U.S. The Soviet Union, our partner in MAD (Mutually Assured Destruction) and Cold War rivalry around the globe, was no more. This meant a partial vacuum in international affairs. Nature abhors a vacuum.

The only major vacuum-filler still standing after the Cold War was the United States. One could continue traditional diplomacy on behalf of American ends -- the kind of polite, well-disguised defense of U.S. interests (largely corporate) and imperial ambition carried out under Bush#1, Reagan, Clinton, et al. -- knowing that we'd mostly get our way eventually given our status as the globe's only Superpower. Or one could try to speed up the process and accomplish those same ends overtly -- with an attitude of arrogance and in-your-face bullying -- within maybe one or two Republican administrations.

Some of the ideological roots of today's Bush Administration power-wielders could be traced back to political philosophers Leo Strauss and Albert Wohlstetter or to GOP rightist Barry Goldwater and his rabid anti-communist followers in the early-1960s. But, for simplicity's sake let's stick closer to our own time.

In the early-1990s, there was a group of ideologues and power-politicians on the fringe of the Republican Party's far-right. The members of this group in 1997 would found The Project for the New American Century. (PNAC) Their aim was to prepare for the day when the Republicans regained control of the White House -- and, it was hoped, the other two branches of government as well -- so that their vision of how the U.S. should move in the world would be in place and ready to go, straight off-the-shelf into official policy.

This PNAC group was led by such heavy hitters as Donald Rumsfeld, Dick Cheney, James Woolsey, Paul Wolfowitz, Richard Perle, Bill Kristol, James Bolton, Zalmay M. Khalilzad, William Bennett, Dan Quayle, Jeb Bush, most of whom were movers-and-shakers in previous Administrations, then in power-exile, as it were, while Clinton was in the White House. But even given their reputations and clout, the views of this group were regarded as too extreme to be taken seriously by the mainstream conservatives that controlled the Republican Party.

Setting Up PNAC

To prepare the ground for the PNAC-like ideas that were circulating in the HardRight, various wealthy individuals and corporations helped set up far-right think-tanks, and bought up various media outlets -- newspapers, magazines, TV networks, radio talk shows, cable channels, etc. -- in support of that day when all the political tumblers would click into place and the PNAC cabal and their supporters could assume control.

This happened with the Supreme Court's selection of George W. Bush in 2000.

The "outsiders" from PNAC were now powerful "insiders," placed in important positions from which they could exert maximum pressure on U.S. policy: Cheney is Vice President, Rumsfeld is Defense Secretary, Wolfowitz is Deputy Defense Secretary, I. Lewis Libby is Cheney's Chief of Staff, Elliot Abrams is in charge of Middle East policy at the National Security Council, Dov Zakheim is comptroller for the Defense Department, John Bolton is Undersecretary of State, Richard Perle is chair of the Defense Policy advisory board at the Pentagon, former CIA director James Woolsey is on that panel as well, etc. etc. (PNAC's chairman, Bill Kristol, is the editor of Rupert Murdoch's The Weekly Standard.) In short, PNAC had a lock on military policy-creation in the Bush Administration.

But, in order to unleash their foreign/military campaigns without taking all sorts of flak from the traditional wing of the conservative GOP -- which was more isolationist, more opposed to expanding the role of the federal government, more opposed to military adventurism abroad -- they needed a context that would permit them free rein. The events of 9/11 rode to their rescue. (In one of their major reports, written in 2000, they noted that "the process of transformation, even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event - like a new Pearl Harbor.")

After those terrorist attacks, the Bush Administration used the fear generated in the general populace as their cover for enacting all sorts of draconian measures domestically (the Patriot Act, drafted earlier, was rushed through Congress in the days following 9/11; few members even read it), and as their rationalization for launching military campaigns abroad. (Don't get me wrong. The Islamic fanatics that use terror as their political weapon are real and deadly and need to be stopped. The question is: How to do that in ways that enhance rather than detract from America's long-term national interests?)

The Domestic Ramifications

Even today, the Bush manipulators, led by Karl Rove, continue to utilize fear and hyped-up patriotism and a permanent war on terrorism as the basis for their policy agenda, the top item of which, at this juncture, consists of getting Bush elected in 2004. This, in order to continue to fulfill their primary objectives, not the least of which domestically is to roll back and, where possible, decimate and eliminate social programs that the far-right has hated since the New Deal/Great Society days.

By and large, these programs are popular with Americans, so Bush&Co. can't attack them frontally -- but if all the monies are tied up in wars, defense, tax cuts, etc., they can go to the American public and, in effect, say: "We'd love to continue to fund Head Start and education and environmental protection and drugs for the elderly through Medicare, but you see there's simply no extra money left over after we go after the bad guys. It's not our fault."

So far, that stealth strategy has worked. The Bush&Co. hope is that the public won't catch on to their real agenda -- to seek wealth and power at the expense of average citizens -- until after a 2004 victory, and maybe not even then. Just keep blaming the terrorists, the French, the Dixie Chicks, peaceniks, fried potatoes, whatever.

One doesn't have to speculate what the PNAC guys might think, since they're quite open and proud of their theories and strategies. Indeed, they've left a long, public record that lays out quite openly what they're up to. As I say, it was all laid out years ago, but nobody took such extreme talk seriously; now that they're in power, actually making the policy they only dreamed about a decade or so ago -- with all sorts of scarifying consequences for America and the rest of the world -- we need to educate ourselves quickly as to how the PNACers work and what their future plans might be.

The PNAC Paper Trail

Here is a shorthand summary of PNAC strategies that have become U.S. policy. Some of these you may have heard about before, but I've expanded and updated as much as possible.

1. In 1992, then-Secretary of Defense Dick Cheney had a strategy report drafted for the Department of Defense, written by Paul Wolfowitz, then Under-Secretary of Defense for Policy. In it, the U.S. government was urged, as the world's sole remaining Superpower, to move aggressively and militarily around the globe. The report called for pre-emptive attacks and ad hoc coalitions, but said that the U.S. should be ready to act alone when "collective action cannot be orchestrated." The central strategy was to "establish and protect a new order" that accounts "sufficiently for the interests of the advanced industrial nations to discourage them from challenging our leadership," while at the same time maintaining a military dominance capable of "deterring potential competitors from even aspiring to a larger regional or global role." Wolfowitz outlined plans for military intervention in Iraq as an action necessary to assure "access to vital raw material, primarily Persian Gulf oil" and to prevent the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction and threats from terrorism.

Somehow, this report leaked to the press; the negative response was immediate. Senator Robert Byrd led the Democratic charge, calling the recommended Pentagon strategy "myopic, shallow and disappointing....The basic thrust of the document seems to be this: We love being the sole remaining superpower in the world and we want so much to remain that way that we are willing to put at risk the basic health of our economy and well-being of our people to do so." Clearly, the objective political forces hadn't yet coalesced in the U.S. that could support this policy free of major resistance, and so President Bush the Elder publicly repudiated the paper and sent it back to the drawing boards. (For the essence of the draft text, see Barton Gellman's "Keeping the U.S. First; Pentagon Would Preclude a Rival Superpower" in the Washington Post

2. Various HardRight intellectuals outside the government were spelling out the new PNAC policy in books and influential journals. Zalmay M. Khalilzad (formerly associated with big oil companies, currently U.S. Special Envoy to Afghanistan & Iraq ) wrote an important volume in 1995, "From Containment to Global Leadership: America & the World After the Cold War," the import of which was identifying a way for the U.S. to move aggressively in the world and thus to exercise effective control over the planet's natural resources. A year later, in 1996, neo-conservative leaders Bill Kristol and Robert Kagan, in their Foreign Affairs article "Towards a Neo-Reaganite Foreign Policy," came right out and said the goal for the U.S. had to be nothing less than "benevolent global hegemony," a euphemism for total U.S. domination, but "benevolently" exercised, of course.

3. In 1998, PNAC unsuccessfully lobbied President Clinton to attack Iraq and remove Saddam Hussein from power. The January letter from PNAC urged America to initiate that war even if the U.S. could not muster full support from the Security Council at the United Nations. Sound familiar? (President Clinton replied that he was focusing on dealing with al-Qaida terrorist cells.)

4. In September of 2000, PNAC, sensing a GOP victory in the upcoming presidential election, issued its white paper on "Rebuilding America's Defenses: Strategy,Forces and Resources for the New Century ." The PNAC report was quite frank about why the U.S. would want to move toward imperialist militarism, a Pax Americana, because with the Soviet Union out of the picture, now is the time most "conducive to American interests and ideals...The challenge of this coming century is to preserve and enhance this 'American peace'." And how to preserve and enhance the Pax Americana? The answer is to "fight and decisively win multiple, simultaneous major-theater wars."

In serving as world "constable," the PNAC report went on, no other countervailing forces will be permitted to get in the way. Such actions "demand American political leadership rather than that of the United Nations," for example. No country will be permitted to get close to parity with the U.S. when it comes to weaponry or influence; therefore, more U.S. military bases will be established in the various regions of the globe. (A post-Saddam Iraq may well serve as one of those advance military bases.) Currently, it is estimated that the U.S. now has nearly 150 military bases and deployments in different countries around the world, with the most recent major increase being in the Caspian Sea/Afghanistan/Middle East areas.

5. George W. Bush moved into the White House in January of 2001. Shortly thereafter, a report by the Administration-friendly Council on Foreign Relations was prepared, "Strategic Energy Policy Challenges for the 21st Century," that advocated a more aggressive U.S. posture in the world and called for a "reassessment of the role of energy in American foreign policy," with access to oil repeatedly cited as a "security imperative." (It's possible that inside Cheney's energy-policy papers -- which he refuses to release to Congress or the American people -- are references to foreign-policy plans for how to gain military control of oilfields abroad.)

6. Mere hours after the 9/11 terrorist mass-murders, PNACer Secretary of Defense Rumsfeld ordered his aides to begin planning for an attack on Iraq, even though his intelligence officials told him it was an al-Qaida operation and there was no connection between Iraq and the attacks. "Go massive," the aides' notes quote him as saying. "Sweep it all up. Things related and not." Rumsfeld leaned heavily on the FBI and CIA to find any shred of evidence linking the Iraq government to 9/11, but they weren't able to. So he set up his own fact-finding group in the Pentagon that would provide him with whatever shaky connections it could find or surmise.

7. Feeling confident that all plans were on track for moving aggressively in the world, the Bush Administration in September of 2002 published its "National Security Strategy of the United States of America." The official policy of the U.S. government, as proudly proclaimed in this major document, is virtually identical to the policy proposals in the various white papers of the Project for the New American Century and others like it over the past decade.

Chief among them are: 1) the policy of "pre-emptive" war -- i.e., whenever the U.S. thinks a country may be amassing too much power and/or could provide some sort of competition in the "benevolent hegemony" region, it can be attacked, without provocation. (A later corollary would rethink the country's atomic policy: nuclear weapons would no longer be considered defensive, but could be used offensively in support of political/economic ends; so-called "mini-nukes" could be employed in these regional wars.) 2) international treaties and opinion will be ignored whenever they are not seen to serve U.S. imperial goals. 3) The new policies "will require bases and stations within and beyond Western Europe and Northeast Asia." In short, the Bush Administration seems to see the U.S., admiringly, as a New Rome, an empire with its foreign legions (and threat of "shock&awe" attacks, including with nuclear weapons) keeping the outlying colonies, and potential competitors, in line. Those who aren't fully in accord with these goals better get out of the way; "you're either with us or against us."

Summary & The PNAC Future

Everyone loves a winner, and American citizens are no different. It makes a lot of people feel good that we "won" the battle for Iraq, but in doing so we paid too high a price at that, and may well have risked losing the larger war in the Arab/Muslim region: the U.S. now lacks moral stature and standing in much of the world, it is revealed as a liar for all to see (no WMDs in Iraq, no connection to 9/11, no quick handing-over the interim reins of government to the Iraqis as initially promised), it destroyed a good share of the United Nation's effectiveness and prestige that may come in handy later, it needlessly alienated our traditional allies, it infuriated key elements of the Muslim world, it provided political and emotional ammunition for anti-U.S. terrorists, etc.

Already, we're talking about $80 to $100 billion from the U.S. treasury for post-war reconstruction in Iraq. And the PNACers are gearing up for their next war: let's see, should we move first on Iran or on Syria, or maybe do Syria-lite first in Lebanon?

One can believe that maybe PNAC sincerely believes its rhetoric -- that instituting U.S.-style free-markets and democratically-elected governments in Iraq and the other authoritarian-run countries of the Islamic Middle East will be good both for the citizens of that region and for American interests as well -- but even if that is true, it's clear that these incompetents are not operating in the world of Middle Eastern realities.

These are armchair theoreticians -- most of whom made sure not to serve in the military in Vietnam -- who truly believed, for example, that the Iraqis would welcome the invading U.S. forces with bouquets of flowers and kisses when they "liberated" their country from the horribleness of Saddam Hussein's reign. The Iraqis, by and large, were happy to be freed of Saddam's terror, but, as it stands now, the U.S. military forces are more likely to be engulfed in a political/religious quagmire for years there, as so many of the majority Shia population just want the occupying soldiers to leave.

And yet PNAC theorists continue to believe that remaking the political structure of the Middle East -- by force if necessary, although they hope the example of what the U.S. did to Iraq will make war unnecessary -- will be fairly easy.

These are men of big ideas, but who don't really think. They certainly don't think through what takes place in the real world, when the genies of war and religious righteousness are let out of the bottle. For example, as New York Times columnist Tom Friedman recently put it, the U.S. had no Plan B for Iraq. They did great with Plan A, the war, but when the Saddam government collapsed, and with it law and order, and much of the population remained sullen and resentful towards the U.S., they had no prepared way of dealing with it. An embarrassing three weeks went by, with no progress, finally leading the Bush Administration to force out its initial administrators and to put in another team to have a go at it.

No, friends, the PNAC boys are dangerous ideologues playing with matches, and the U.S. is going to get burned even more in years to come, unless their hold on power is broken. The only way to accomplish this, given the present circumstances, is to defeat their boss at the polls in 2004, thus breaking the HardRight momentum that has done, and is doing, such great damage to our reputation abroad and to our country internally, especially to our Constitution and economy.

We don't need an emperor, we don't need huge tax cuts for the wealthy when the economy is tanking, we don't need more "pre-emptive" wars, we don't need more shredding of constitutional due process. Instead, we need leaders with big ideas who are capable of creative thinking. We need peace and justice in the Middle East (to help alter the chemistry of the soil in which terrorism grows), we need jobs and economic growth at home, and we need authentic and effective "homeland security" consistent with our civil liberties.

In short, we need a new Administration, which means that we need to get to serious work to make all this change happen. Organize!, organize!, organize!

Bernard Weiner, a playwright and poet, was the San Francisco Chronicle's theater critic for nearly two decades. Holder of a Ph.D. in government & international relations, he has taught American politics and international relations at Western Washington University and San Diego State University, and has written for The Nation, Village Voice, The Progressive and other political journals. He is a contributing writer for Liberal Slant and co-editor of the new online political site: www.CrisisPapers.org

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posted 05-28-2003 08:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mech   Visit Mech's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When I see things like......


"--1) Even a well-educated, intelligent radio commentator was unaware of some of this information; and,

2) Once presented with it, this conservative icon understood immediately the implications of what would happen if the American voting public found out about these policies. --"

It makes me wonder if the people of this fading republic mesmerized by the national entertainment complex will ever wake up out of their self-induced slumber.


Probably not untill it's too late.


Kind of like being on a fast moving train with your hands pressed against the glass knowing you are the only one who knows the train is about to wreck...yelling and screaming..while everyone looks at you like you are a muderer or something.

I think that just about describes what's happening.


Too busy wanting commie Chinese slave made goods at Wal-Mart I guess.

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The money is not missing. Almost all of it is for the various Black Projects under development. The Aurora or it's replacement, stealth ships and subs, secret satellites, and any of numerous things that any particular person is paranoid about.

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Personally,

I highly doubt it. I'm sure it's in the hands of well connected contractors or in a few ultra-rich peoples bank accounts. Black projects have their own accounts within the existing Pentagon budget.


Or..it's a payoff.

"--[1] Tens of millions of dollars had been promised by the American CIA and the Bush White House, to the top generals of Iraq. The contacts with the Iraqi military brass had been started a s long ago as October, 2002, or even before. Part of the pay-offs were already deposited in secret accounts. The plan, agreed upon by all concerned, was to have the major Iraqi military units permit the U.S. Military to quickly take Baghdad, supposedly with a minimum of U.S. casualties.

[A heavily-censored, watered down story about the pay-offs "U.S. Bribed Iraqi Military Leaders", The Express, London, UK, 4/18/3.]--"

Source: Sherman Skolnick reports


Either way...it's rape.


About $3400 per man woman and child in the U.S.

Too many people trust this government blindly without asking questions..it's sickening.

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Hmmm....more ROBBERY


WOW! So THAT is where MORE of our money is going.

WOW! So THAT is where all of our jobs are going.


To UNPATRIOTIC, OFFSHORE GREEDY CORPORATIONS.

It goes ON AND ON AND ON AND ON.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/2939966.stm


U.S. PAYS OFFSHORE FIRMS 1 BILLION


Companies which have moved offshore to avoid paying US taxes are making a billion dollars a year from US government contracts, an Associated Press investigation has found.

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posted 05-29-2003 01:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for theseeker   Visit theseeker's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tax loopholes have encouraged a number of big firms to carry out a "corporate inversion", where the company moves - usually in name only

name only

the government takes too much tax revenue anyway...you take up for them....socialist pig you...

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posted 05-29-2003 01:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mech   Visit Mech's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Seeker,


Your love of Bush's BIG GOVERNMENT and Corrupt Corporate ASS KISSING makes me want to...


...you UNAMERICAN NeoCon piece of TRASH.


God forbid if Joe Q.Citizen making under $50,000 "misplaced funds" at his job or tried a "Tax Loophole"

I guess socialism is only okay when it comes from BIG CORPORATIONS AND BIG GOVERNMENT.

You make me SICK!



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posted 05-29-2003 01:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for theseeker   Visit theseeker's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
you hear what you want to hear...you filthy animal...

I do not like taxes or big government...matter of fact if I were cutting programs chances are it would directly effect those (you, shitoga) who suck off the big government tit...

where do you think your "unearned income" money comes from ?

problem is you have NO understanding of economics....YOU wouldn't begin to know how money really works...YOU just sit around and bitch about those who took the initiative and do know about money...

maybe instead of a failed carreer in the military you should have went to college...



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posted 05-29-2003 02:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mech   Visit Mech's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I did go to College,

and recieved my A&P/Associates degree.

"failed miltary career?" ROFLMAO!! My DD214 says otherwise. I was honorably discharged by my own CHOICE.


NOTE: I don't "mooch off the government"

Let's make that CRYSTAL clear.

Again you are MAKING EXCUSES for CORRUPTION.

But corruption is your middle name...seeing how much of a BIG GOVERNMENT (I.E.: BUSH) PIMP you are.


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posted 05-29-2003 02:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hitech_46253   Visit hitech_46253's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You also 'seeker' are a complete WASTE OF SKIN!! You can join Bush and his satanist PAEDOPHILE cabal in hell sucking on his 'tit.'!!

It's pretty obvious to those LOOKING or rather 'seeking' the TRUTH to find out where our money's going.... Into daddy PAEDOPHILE Bush's pocket!!

Carlyle, Bechtel and Haliburton. FOLLOW DA MONEY!!

US Soldiers Seize More Iraqi Gold Bars http://www.nypost.com/news/worldnews/76716.htm

Buy, buy, buy…Defense contractors scooping up smaller firms http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A42090-2003May26.html
The nation's leading defense contractors are gobbling up small technology firms in a consolidation binge driven by the Pentagon's demand that future military conflicts be dominated by high-tech warfare


Bush Tax Package Guts Middle ClassCovering for the Carlyle Group, The Telegraph Claims Conspiracy Theory http://www.rense.com/general37/roadmap.htm

The Carlyle Group http://www.carlyle.com/eng/index.html
This is the Carlyle friendly face PR campaign to look just like good honest investors not the real scum that they are profiting off of war and death!
Daily Telegraph puff piece: Conspiracy theorists spreading lies about Carlyle Group’s motives http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2003/05/27/wcarl27.xml&sSheet=/news/2003/05/27/ixworld.html
The hugely profitable Carlyle Group has become a magnet for conspiracy rumors, writes Simon English

Back from the dead…Iran-Contra scandal culprit returns to power
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A41843-2003May26.html
A cycle of disgrace and redemption has brought one of Washington's most accomplished -- and controversial -- bureaucratic infighters back to the center of U.S. foreign policy decision-making

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posted 05-29-2003 02:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for theseeker   Visit theseeker's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yeah mech your degree and military service were soooo good you got FIRED !

listen socialist loser you can run and hide from everyone else...but dude you can't hide from yourself...

larry explain in your own words how the bush tax cut guts the middle class...

I realize this may take you a while so I'm going to catch a few rays...

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posted 05-29-2003 02:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mech   Visit Mech's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Fired? When was this? I remember a layoff shortly after Sept 11th but hey MOST people have been through one.

Are you LYING again Seeker? Me thinks so.

But if you want to get PERSONAL...

Most STOOGES for the illuminati cabal (Bush admin) deliberately spread falsehoods.


You can go back to being a housewife now.

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let's see a layoff from 2001 to 2003 is fired mech...anyway you slice it...

you got personal first...

sun's hot today !

still waiting larry....

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posted 05-29-2003 03:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hitech_46253   Visit hitech_46253's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Geez! Some 'seeker' eh? There was a URL for your question, you didn't click on it? As for MY opinion, Daddy PAEDPHILE Bush raped this country of BILLIONS through the Silverado Savings and Loan fiasco. Since he got emboldeded by getting away with that, he's now ripping off the country of BILLIONS with his business buddy USAma Bin laden through Carlyle, Haliburton and Bechtel.

Not to mention all the money to be ripped off through his pharmaceutical buddies for these bogus VACCINES they want to shove on the rest of U.S.!!

WAKE UP PEOPLE!!

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larry explain in your own words how the bush tax cut guts the middle class...

larry I asked YOU in your own words...see I don't think YOU or mech or shitoga have any idea just what the tax cut does or is about...I feel your spoon fed from people who are the same as YOU and don't know either...

prove me wrong...sucker

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1st:
Airframe & Powerplant techs are overtrained and underpaid.

2nd:
Penn State Mechanical Engineering myself.

3rd:
the uncle of an ex-wife (whom I saw on stage with George (Opium Poppy) Bush at mission control in Houston,
used to train astronaughts.

He told me that those $400.00 toilet seats were how Never A Straight Answer got the money for the orbiting military weapons platforms that convinced the USSR to give up the cold war.

His claim was that the military had racks of nukes in geostationary orbit over the himalayas and could wipe out russio or china in minutes.

Until I saw opium poppy Bush at NASA in 91, I never believed him.

After that I wonder.

The US has more WMD than all other nations combined.
while self righteously blathering about preventing the spread.

They really mean:
"We're the bully on the block. don't you dare try to develop weapons to protect yourselves against US."

Makes sense that those $400.00 toilet seats were the way to budget illegal programs.


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"We're the bully on the block. don't you dare try to develop weapons to protect yourselves against US."

as it should be...when's the last time the U.S used bio-chemical weapons on another nation ?

commie got a cracker ?

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posted 05-30-2003 01:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hitech_46253   Visit hitech_46253's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes 'seeker' I DO know what these tax cuts are about. It's about finishing the U.S. off economically!

Again more info on this SATANIST P.O.S. president for those with functioning neurons left:

Bush Quietly Signs Bill Allowing Nearly $1 Trillion in Federal Debt http://boston.com/dailynews/147/economy/Bush_quietly_signs_bill_to_all:.shtml

Click Washington shelved report of 44-trillion dollar deficit. http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1519&e=3&u=/afp/us_economy_britain_press

More: The legacy of Bushonomics: US faces a future of chronic deficits Click. http://news.ft.com/servlet/ContentServer?pagename=FT.com/StoryFT/FullStory&c=StoryFT&cid=1051390392975&p=1012571727088

Buy, buy, buy…Defense contractors scooping up smaller firms
The nation's leading defense contractors are gobbling up small technology firms in a consolidation binge driven by the Pentagon's demand that future military conflicts be dominated by high-tech warfare http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A42090-2003May26.html
(Here is the globalist TAKEOVER in a nutshell!)

Bush to Sign $15B Bill to Help Fight AIDS http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20030527/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush_aids_6

Again, it's REAL CLEAR 'seeker' that this P.O.S. pres is out to BANKRUPT this country once and for all!


And when querried about the OTHER P.O.S. president we get THIS!!:

Bush 'looking forward,' not at Pardongate
Spokesman questioned about probe into Clinton clemencies http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=32803


This president is far WORSE than Klinton because people have deceived THEMSELVES that he's better! He's getting away with MORE than Klinton did and is even MORE GUILTY of High TREASON!

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the fact that anyone other than Jesus can predict what will happen in 10 years is seriously laughable....44 trillion...lol...

get a grip larry...

how about I give you an economic lesson say around noon....a little tired now...

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Seeker...these people are absolutely brain dead. You can try reasoning but it won't work. They have lost the capacity for basic reasoning or logical, rational thought....or to even differentiate between delusions and reality. Trying to explain a tax cut to a paranoid, delusional leftist is a little like spitting into the ocean to raise the tide....

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"--This president is far WORSE than Klinton because people have deceived THEMSELVES that he's better! He's getting away with MORE than Klinton did and is even MORE GUILTY of High TREASON!--"

That's what Iv'e been saying from the get-go.

Bu$h is like Bill Klinton ON CRACK.

Even more of a big government socialist.

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posted 05-30-2003 07:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hitech_46253   Visit hitech_46253's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"We're brain dead speaks Waste of skin 'fastwalker'???

YOU are the ones ignoring the lessons of history here.

Satan Bush boy is REPEATING the gun grabs of Hitler.

Satan Bush boy is REPEATING the death camps of Hitler.

Satan Bush boy is REPEATING the economic COLLAPSE of Hitler.

Satan Bush boy is REPEATING the passage of laws AGAINST the people after STAGING his own 'terrorism' / Reichstag.

Satan Bush boy is REPEATING Hitler's attacking of multiple countries.

We PROVE these things with current stories and you DISINFORMATION AGENTS turn a deaf and DUMB eye to the information proclaiming this TREASONOUS PIECE OF SCUM your god and ignorantly predict his success....

History is LITTERED with civilzatons who FAILED to grasp the truth until it was too late.

And you're HELPING to see that happens HERE.

Enjoy your eternity in HELL with your SATANIST power hungry TREASONOUS piece of SCUM president.

You've EARNED IT!

"And I shall send them STRONG DELUSION that they shall believe the LIE and be condemned to utter damnation."

DELUSIONAL is an understatment to what you CREEPS ARE!

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posted 05-30-2003 07:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mech   Visit Mech's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Don't forget..


the surveillance society of Hitler.....


the terminology (aka homeland) of Hitler...


NEW.....WORLD......ORDER


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Keep talking. Your words demonstrate the validity of my statement far better than I can by just saying it...

quote:
They have lost the capacity for basic reasoning or logical, rational thought....or to even differentiate between delusions and reality.

Truer words were never spoken....

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