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theseeker
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3297 posts, Jul 2000

posted 05-31-2003 03:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for theseeker   Visit theseeker's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What does it mean to be a patriot?

After the events of September 11, newspapers reported an upsurge of patriotism across the land. Americans put stickers on their car windows reading, "United We Stand" and wore T-shirts with images of the American flag. Even on college campuses, students rallied to express patriotic sentiments about America. Sixties boomers, long accustomed to scoffing at patriotism as "flag-waving," now discovered in themselves a surprising urge to wave flags.

Later, when the war in Iraq began to heat up, many of its supporters upgraded to even bigger flags, while others who opposed the conflict traded theirs for antiwar signs.

Members of both sides describe themselves as patriots. But what exactly is patriotism, anyway?

The dictionary defines it as pride in one's country, an intense love of her, a zealous devotion to her interests. But how many hours a day do any of us spend actively loving our country--and how do we express that love, anyway?

Waving the flag

The most familiar patriotic activity is probably flying or displaying the American flag. And that makes a certain sense. Patriotism and flags are certainly related, through their second cousin--war.

Flags started out as banners held aloft on crowded battlefields by war chiefs (or their aides) to let the common soldiers know where their leader was. The flags showed the soldiers that he was still alive and inspired them to keep fighting.

Even today patriotism tends to surge when the country is in a war or on the verge of fighting one. It has a definite function at such times: to build national strength through solidarity, especially in the face of a common enemy.

Every group, from street-corner gang to nation-state, knows the worth of unified resolve against outside threats. If a bully attacks you and your buddies, you set aside your differences and stand as one; that's a given.

If the bullies single you out for harassment, you expect your buddies to jump in and help you. If your buddies say, "We're not going to side with you blindly, we need more facts, maybe these bullies have a point," you're apt to feel betrayed. You may well feel that true friends help first and ask questions later.

And patriotism, I think, is that normal human sentiment writ large. "I love my country" is a way of saying, "Every American in trouble is my buddy." Flying a flag makes the statement, "Count me in, I'm part of the one big group, and woe to anyone who attacks us." Flags build patriotic unity by making visible our bigness and our oneness.

America's big ideas

But embracing anything blindly always carries risks. The urge to marshal unity can slide into unquestioning obedience: my country right or wrong. Teddy Roosevelt once said, "Patriotism means to stand by the country. It does not mean to stand by the President or any other public official save exactly to the degree in which he himself stands by the country."

That's where the concept of patriotism gets tricky in a democracy, especially in the United States. Loyalty to this country can't mean loyalty to any particular ethnic, cultural, or political group, and it must go beyond "soil." At its core the United States is not just a patch of land or a group of people, but a set of ideas.

Which ideas?

My list includes at least these four--perhaps you have more:

• The rule of law--no one is subject to anyone else's arbitrary whim. Instead, everyone must abide by the same uniform set of publicly posted rules.
• Democracy--people get to have a real say in making those rules and in choosing their own leaders.
• Freedom--people have the right to pursue their own lives however they see fit, so long as they don't hurt others.
• Inclusion--the benefits of freedom, democracy, and the rule of law belong to all American citizens, regardless of how they look, what they believe, or any other arbitrary criteria.

Too many backseat drivers?

Taken seriously, these core principles imply certain duties. The duty to vote, for example. It's not just that we get to vote. If this country belongs to us citizens, none of us is exempt from a responsibility to help run it. Forming opinions and expressing them is not just a right but an obligation.

But wait! Can any nation function with a hundred million backseat drivers telling the leaders how to drive and where to go? Won't that sort of anarchic clamor weaken our unity and erode our resolve? Aren't some rights--to dissent, to demonstrate, to organize political opposition, for example--luxuries we can't afford in times of crisis? Shouldn't we put those bon bons on a shelf to enjoy later, after we've secured an impregnable peace?

Such arguments, I think, mistakenly view our core American freedoms as sources of weakness. History has other lessons on that score. Consider, for example, the case of the ancient Roman Republic and its notoriously contentious government. If strength comes from lockstep efficiency, how did Rome survive for so long?

http://encarta.msn.com/column/PatriotismMain.asp


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posted 05-31-2003 07:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for shatoga     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
enough Bullshit!


Rome didn't survive!
The Roman Republic was replaced with a
dictatorship.

Like Amerika, it remained an empire, but no longer was a Republic.
(as an elite minority* chose from among their own ranks, who would hold absolute power)
*{military leaders and wealthy patricians}

Patriot:
keeps the oath of citizenship/ oath of enlistment, oath of office:

"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) ....I...will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."

rule of law:
THE CONSTITUTION OF
THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
Article. VI.

This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding.

The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.<

The Constitution of the United States includes all amendments thereto.


>Article. V.
....Amendments to this Constitution,..., shall be valid to all Intents and Purposes, as Part of this Constitution,
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A patriot supports the entire US Constution (without reservation) and will willingly lay down his/her life to defend the US Constitution.

Zieg heiling to the temporary occupant of the White House is not patriotism.

That asshole violated his oath of office by signing the unconstitutional "USA Patriot Act"
Which suspended the Writ of Habeus Corpus in violation of the US Constitution:

>THE CONSTITUTION OF
THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
Article. I.
Section. 9.

The Privilege of the Writ of Habeas Corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in Cases of Rebellion or Invasion the public Safety may require it.
<
---Amerika has suffered no invasion, nor rebellion.---

Any part of the US Constitution may only be suspended by amendment

>THE CONSTITUTION OF
THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
Article. V.
The Congress, whenever two thirds of both Houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose Amendments to this Constitution, or, on the Application of the Legislatures of two thirds of the several States, shall call a Convention for proposing Amendments, which, in either Case, shall be valid to all Intents and Purposes, as Part of this Constitution, when ratified by the Legislatures of three fourths of the several States, or by Conventions in three fourths thereof, as the one or the other Mode of Ratification may be proposed by the Congress;<

A Patriot honors that oath to uphold and defend the US Constitution.



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shatoga
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posted 06-01-2003 09:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for shatoga     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Waiting for rebuttal--
Argue against the US Constitution dittioheads.

That document is the worst enemy of the bush dictatorship.

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shatoga
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posted 06-06-2003 12:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for shatoga     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Explain why you hate our constitution '

and why you hate freedom



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ChemCaptain
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posted 06-06-2003 12:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChemCaptain     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nobody wants to argue with ya Shat, you're too stupid and too annoying.

For now I offer monkey!



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theseeker
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Damnit...I'm a doctor jim
3297 posts, Jul 2000

posted 06-06-2003 01:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for theseeker   Visit theseeker's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
monkey needs music !

shitoga mis~characterizes me...where do your opinions as to my political philosophy come from shitoga ?

DOH !


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shatoga
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posted 06-07-2003 08:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for shatoga     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ChemCaptain:
Nobody wants to argue with ya Shat, you're too stupid and too annoying.

For now I offer monkey!



A dancing Dubya!
How Cute!

---Thanks---

>Ask not at whom the chimp smirks - He smirks at you.< http://www.smirkingchimp.com/ http://www.smirkingchimp.com/images/topics/thief.jpg



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