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Mech
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posted 05-31-2003 05:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mech   Visit Mech's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Army of God" Christian terrorist Eric Rudolph captured.....
http://www.fbi.gov/mostwant/topten/fugitives/rudolph.htm

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Well I didn't find it so bad of what he did.
My veiw of abortion is state sponsored killing and some people can't put up with it anymore. He murders the murderers, er
Like fighting fire with fire, I magine what the world could've been like with an extra 100 million Americans in it, look at it from an economical point of veiw also, see what we have missed? bet not.

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Capture of U.S. Bomb Suspect Ends Five-Year Hunt

Sat May 31, 5:02 PM ET


By Paul Simao

MURPHY, N.C. (Reuters) - The man suspected in a series of bombings in the southern United States, including at the 1996 Olympics in Atlanta, was captured on Saturday in the North Carolina town where he left his last trace, ending a five-year manhunt.


Eric Robert Rudolph was picked up before dawn by a young police officer on patrol in Murphy, North Carolina, in the remote mountain region where he is believed to have hidden out since 1998, law enforcement officers said.

Attorney General John Ashcroft hailed the capture of "the most notorious American fugitive on the FBI most-wanted list" and praised local police.

Rudolph, 36, faces federal charges in the July 1996 bombing at Centennial Olympic Park, which killed a Georgia woman midway through the Summer Olympics and injured more than 100 people.

He is also suspected in the deadly bombing of an abortion clinic in Birmingham, Alabama, in which an off-duty police officer was killed and a nurse injured, and blasts at an Atlanta abortion clinic and a gay nightclub, which caused injuries, but no fatalities.

Murphy, a town of about 1,500 people in western North Carolina, was where Rudolph's abandoned pickup truck was found after the Jan. 29, 1998, bombing of the Alabama clinic.

'NO ONE EVER GAVE UP'

"No one ever gave up on finding him, the search continued," FBI agent Chris Swecker told a news conference in Murphy. "We always thought he was up here in the mountains."

Officer J.S. Postell came across Rudolph lurking behind a store at about 4:30 a.m. (0830 GMT) while out on patrol. Postell, aged 21 and less than a year on the job, said the man ran from him and hid behind some milk crates.

Postell thought he might be dealing with a break-in and had no idea he had Rudolph in his clutches. He said he told the man to come out and he did, without resistance. He was "very cooperative, not a bit disrespectful," Postell told the news conference.

Rudolph initially gave a false name, Jerry Wilson, but he subsequently identified himself, and the FBI used his fingerprints to confirm his identity.

Rudolph was expected to make an initial court appearance in Asheville, North Carolina, on Monday.

The authorities declined to speculate on whether Rudolph had been helped in evading the intense and expensive manhunt, saying only that the investigation was still underway.

$1 MILLION REWARD

Cherokee County Sheriff Keith Lovin said Rudolph appeared in good health although he had lost weight. He had on blue work pants and a blue work shirt, with a camouflage jacket and a backpack when he was caught. He was not armed.

Postell did not want to comment on whether he deserved a $1 million reward offered for Rudolph's capture.

"It's just in a days work, I don't really deserve any credit," he said. "I was just doing what I was hired to do."

But he added, "I think I put a lot of people's feelings at ease ... I'm glad I was in the right place at the right time."

Rudolph was described by the FBI as a rugged survivalist and accomplished outdoorsman and was believed to have been holed up for years in the mountains.

In an area that traditionally distrusts outsiders and authorities, some people were sympathetic to Rudolph.

"There are people here who really liked him and agreed with him on abortion and other issues. They aren't glad that he has been caught," said Bill Gatti, 45, from the Murphy area.

Gatti said he knew women who had gone to school with Rudolph, who was considered a very good looking young man, adding, "I wouldn't be surprised if they had been hiding him."

The nurse disabled by the Birmingham blast, Emily Lyons, told CNN she would like to ask Rudolph: "Why, what was it that you picked that day, that place, for what purpose? ... What were you trying to tell everybody that day?"

Rudolph was believed to follow Christian Identity, a white supremacist religion that opposes abortion, homosexuality and foreigners.


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Killing innocent people that have NO IDEA what that sadistic maniac wanted? You should see the young lady nurses face he NAILBOMBED. She'll never be the same. Just because she was doing her job at an Ob-Gyn, possibly that had nothing to do with abortions.

Killing LIVING, breathing people for a fetus?

SAD.

By the way, those women going to get abortions aren't FORCED to get them by the State...they get them for a multitude of reasons. It's really none of my buisness seeing I'm a guy. As it should be.
I'll bet 99.9% of those women getting abortions
are going through a lot of drama. Demonizing them only makes it worse.

Not to mention the 100 people he maimed and the others killed in Olympic park.

Could have been one of your own Prof.

I hope they give that backwards RACIST @$$hole the shabbiest, dirtiest, most disqusting, cockroach ridden cell on the planet.



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posted 05-31-2003 11:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for theseeker   Visit theseeker's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
mech hates Christians...that's no surprise I guess...and I agree professor...mech and the like sure have been worried about those poor iraqi's gettin' bombed but never said a word about the millions of defenseless American babies...killed out of a legal definition of "choice"...

stop the madness choose life.

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posted 05-31-2003 11:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mech   Visit Mech's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For one thing...they are not "babies"..

They are fetuses or exaggerated embryos.

Not fully conscious, sentient humans.

Second, I don't "hate" Christians or any other belief system for that matter. In fact I think Jesus the Christ (Esu Sananda) was one of the most enlightened persons living on earth at the time of Rome. Of course EVERY era has its PONTUS PILATE..I won't name names.ORGANIZED religion is where the trouble starts, because it's ruled by the word of man, not God.

This guy could have been LEGALLY a racist, and anti-abortionist and no one would have done anything to him.

He crossed the line and now he will pay the price.

Simple.


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posted 05-31-2003 11:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for the professor   Visit the professor's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No mech it wouldn't have been my own cuz my own wouldn't be in an abortion clinic. State sponsored does not mean forced but yet it does nothing to prohibit. Read between the lines mech. You rant at big government but don't mind state protected abortitoriums you don't mind collecting a state unemployment check either do ya?
So mech when does life begin?

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posted 05-31-2003 11:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for the professor   Visit the professor's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jesus the Son of God enlightened?
so I see you reduce God down to human status. You exposed your inner self once again.

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PROF:"--No mech it wouldn't have been my own cuz my own wouldn't be in an abortion clinic.--"

I'm talking about being bombed at the OLYMPICS...not at the clinic. As an EXAMPLE.
Would you still say it's okay for your blood relative to get blown away because the bomber was a Christian/Anti-Abortionist?

PROF:"--State sponsored does not mean forced but yet it does nothing to prohibit.--"


What do you expect these women to do? Use a coat hanger in an alleyway like back in the dark ages? Who are you as a male to decide anyway? You aren't carrying it.

PROF: "-- Read between the lines mech. You rant at big government but don't mind state protected abortitoriums.--"


There is a BIG difference between having basic medical services and a "big government" and you know it.Safe Abortion clinics came about so women wouldn't have to resort to INSANE, damaging alternatives that risk their own lives and destroy their health.

Nobody "likes" abortion.That is pure fiction.

PROF:"--you don't mind collecting a state unemployment check either do ya--?

Personal insult.

Big deal, I collected for a few weeks when I got layed of from an FBO I used to work for..so what? I paid into it..and yours too.


PROF:"--So mech when does life begin?--"


Beats me...but I can only remember back to age 2. I don't remember.."coming down the chute" per se. I wouldn't call a fetus a fully functional, concious, sentient, thinking, breathing, human.

Do YOU remember being a Fetus Professor?


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posted 05-31-2003 11:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mech   Visit Mech's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
PROF:"--Jesus the Son of God enlightened?
so I see you reduce God down to human status.--"

God incarnated Jesus the Christ(Esu Sananda) as a human on this planet to teach other humans at the time their lessons in "soul growth".

I wasn't living on ths planet at the time so I can't really elaborate on it..it's not my place to..or any other MAN for that matter.

My beliefs are my own. If you don't approve...tough..get over it.

Eric Rudolf FAILED his lessons in soul growth.

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The olympic bombings in my opinion at the time was that he was pinned for those bombing, remember the christain hating leftist running the country at the time. There is no connection that inspired me to beleive this was the same bomber, remember who they thought originally did it, Richard Jewel ring a bell. I can remember when I was earlier than 1 guess I'm a little gifted and your backalley hanger point is squash at best, it never was a big problem that has been a lying excuse from the pro death side forever, abortion is also not a medical service it is murder! There are only but a handful of cases when this occured, this is just another lying way of justification for the killing cause.

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posted 06-01-2003 12:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mech   Visit Mech's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nope, disagree..it's any ugly thing YES with a lot of bad Karma that goes with it but having a safe, sterile place to go get it done must be made available...as is the counseling that might go along with it.No one really WANTS an abortion. I think it should be a last resort,but don't BAN them.


Getting back to Rudolph...

If you are disputing the fact that he did indeed bomb Olympic park..that's your opinion and you are entitled to it. People working the case might have a different view of it than you do.

Just seeing what happen to that woman's face and the look of horror on those peoples faces in Birmingham is enough evidence for me if I was on a deciding Jury.

Age one?

That's interesting. So you DON't remeber being in the womb. I thought so.

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man this type of stuff really gets me steamed...and of course that's your function is it not mech?

life begins at conception...

abortion is to kill an unborn baby....

abortion is legalized culling...

promoted by the government (for the momment)

God is not a subject you need delve into mech...for you knowing nothing of God...

I hope you do one day

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posted 06-01-2003 12:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mech   Visit Mech's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Seek..No that is not my function here.

Sometimes I'll spit a little acid, but only when spat at first.

Again..a fetus is not sentient, thinking human being. It's more like a deformed zygote.

A baby is a crying,messy, burping, peeing, breathing, cooing, drooling, human being.

I respect your beliefs about abortion and agree with you somewhat, but I don't think they should be banned for reasons stated above.

As for my beliefs about God and Jesus the Christ..well insulting them is not very Christian of you.

Like I said, my beliefs are my own and I won't force them on anyone. Nor will I change any laws to suit them....unlike certain folks.That would be insulting to those who don't share my beliefs.

Seperation of church and state is the best way to avoid fighting between religious groups.

Seeker, do YOU remember being a fetus?

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Unlike the lefties who want to take God out of everything. So because you can't remember being in the womb makes it right to be aborted? yeah I know thats probaly what you meant.

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I think your belief in God should be something very personal and something you should pursue in the church of your choice or privately. Not in public institutions...certainly not in government.

Is that "ungodly"? I don't think so.

It's up to the individual to define his or her beliefs in god on their own...not through the governments or another man's eyes.


By the way...some "righties" would agree with me...not just "lefties".


I never said abortion was "the right thing to do", only it should be legal and safe without having Christian fundamentalist sadistic whackos like Rudolf waiting to kill you.

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This whole incident was another 1984 'Goldstein' setup. I'd believe the BATFaggots set those bombs at the clinics before this supposed Rudolph character.

The FEDs setup a COMPOUND and moved in over 1200 there SUPPOSEDLY to look for Rudolph. What they were REALLY doing was surveillance on militia groups there.

Now these THUGS are saying they're checking into whoever HELPED Rudolph. So watch for Amerikans to be labled as 'domestic terrorists' and shipped off to Guantanamo's DEATH CAMP they're now touting.

NAZI GERMANY PART II run by sicko SATANIST PAEDOPHILES!!

May they and their disinforming lovers here BURN FOREVER IN HELL as they so richly DESERVE!

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posted 06-01-2003 08:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mech   Visit Mech's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, that's open to speculation but anyone who murders innocent people because of his/her religious beleifs is a criminal in my eyes.


"--May they and their disinforming lovers here BURN FOREVER IN HELL as they so richly DESERVE!--"

That won't be your call Larry.

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Well, that's open to speculation but anyone who murders innocent people because of his/her religious beleifs is a criminal in my eyes.

islamic fundamentalist

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quote:
Originally posted by the professor:
Well I didn't find it so bad of what he did.



You come out strongly in favor of murder!

Imposing you own religious view on everyone else, despite the fact that abortion was never mentioned in the Bible.
You support another gospel than that of christ yet you assume the right to impose your hate filled agenda on everyone else.

Anyone actually opposed to killing would also be strongly agains war and capital punishment.

No posts against war/
No posts against state sanctioned murder/ capital punishment?

You are just a terrorist squalling support for murders committed in the name of (and in opposition to the teachings of) Gawd
You should be ashamed of yourself and your support of murder and terrorism.


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Thats funny, I never mentioned anything about my personal beliefs on religion only that I think it's (abortion) state sponsored murder.
It's not healthy to send a message of go have promiscuous sex, don't worry you can kill it if you get pregnant. You don't see something wrong with this? I beleive an eye for an eye, I support the death penalty even know it is not always fullproof. So whats your problem? wheres your so called tolerance? your forgetting it's man that is not perfect, God is and so what if I'm not sad that the doc and his hacking crew of nurses got hurt, guess you get what you give in life.

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Seeker: "islamic fundamentalists"

Yes, islamic fundamentalists, christian fundamentalists, racist bigots, ......


.....any of these people who kill "in the name of God" or "superiority of race" or "because we need that oil"...need to spend their life behind bars.

But I won't let THE GOVERNMENT tell me WHO I need to believe is "a terrorist", frankly we have MANY of them in the Executive branch at the top.


As far as the death penalty? It should be illegal because this government can't be trusted with truth and justice. I am willing to bet many people have gone to the chair wrongfully accused...that is just the way our justice system works.

It works like this...Kill the poor...shelter and protect the rich.


"And justice for all"...who can afford it.

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posted 06-02-2003 02:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for theseeker   Visit theseeker's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
nope islamic fundies are different...they are evil...

show me where it says in the Christian Bible to "kill the infandel"

islam is a religion based on hate...

islam is a cult...

islam treats women as dogs

islam kills dogs

haven't heard of many Christian suicide bombers there mech...any as a matter of fact....

word to mohammed

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posted 06-02-2003 03:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mech   Visit Mech's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You are 100% predjudice.

That's a fact.

Iv'e never met an islamic terrorist.

5 of my close friends are muslims and a few people I went to college with were.

Your definition of Islam is bigotted, unjust and completely without merit. I detect a hint of racism in it as well.

You'd make a perfect CIA terrorist Seeker.

you don't know $#!+ about Islam..only your backwoods, okie, sheltered ideas and media hyped fears about it.

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