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shatoga
Agent Provocateur
588 posts, Nov 2002
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posted 06-25-2003 01:51 AM
Proven both right and correct yet again:Again, pulling FW's chain. Predicted: Again -flush forth conservative mantras instead of actual ideas and opinions. It's much harder for us Liberals. We think for ourselves instead of just parroting propaganda like you neo-cons do. No jealously of your Goebbels/Rush, who tells you what to think and say. But still wondering: What do you neo-cons have against native born Americans? As neo-cons refuse to give an honest answer to an honest question.. and instead; spout propaganda-insults instead of giving an honest answer to an honest question: What do you neo-cons have against native born Americans? Anyone stupid enough to believe steroid 'muscles' have strength is totally ignorant! After steroid 'muscle'mass develops, weight training and exercise must be used to turn the fleshy bulk into actual muscle mass and strength. Been there: 4 years varsity in HS, college NCAA and (after I went into Army) USA Olympic team via personal contacts continued in 1976 and 1880 Olympics. Personally seen dozens of athletes use steroids for bulk and weight training and exercise to develop strength. Again. neo-cons posting ignorant nonsense not supported by facts. Anyone who cares about truth will use search! Neo-cons will ignore any truth posted and refuse to visit any link or to read any post in it's entirety. http://www.muscleenhancers.com/ http://www.physsportsmed.com/issues/1997/08aug/muscle.htm
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Fastwalker
Senior Member
832 posts, Mar 2003
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posted 06-25-2003 02:03 AM
quote: Anyone stupid enough to believe steroid 'muscles' have strength is totally ignorant!After steroid 'muscle'mass develops, weight training and exercise must be used to turn the fleshy bulk into actual muscle mass and strength.
Uhhh...so you contradict yourself here. In other words, even if Arnold MIGHT have used steroids (and I don't know that for sure), you are saying he still needed to work out like crazy to turn the "fleshy bulk into into actual muscle mass and strength"...Sounds like a contradiction to me, ya dorkus. Seeing what you want to see....Believing what you want to believe despite the reality. Classic hallmark of modern liberalism. Keep the illustrations coming Shitoga. This is fun! Edited to add, anyone who doesn't believe Arnold worked out like crazy (not that anyone but Shitoga believes he didn't or that it even matters), see that classic movie "Pumping Iron". 
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theseeker
One moon circles

Damnit...I'm a doctor jim 3297 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 06-25-2003 02:41 AM
I forgot...shitoga said schwarzenegger never won any titles...mr. universe at age 20....13 others along the way...anyway...the real reason shitoga hates arnold...shitoga can't imagine that good people actually exist... During President George Bush's administration he served as Chairman of the President's Council on Physical Fitness and Sports, and is the author of numerous books on health and fitness. Schwarzenegger now chairs the Governor's Council of Physical Fitness in the state of California. Since 1979, he has served as the International Weight Training Coach for the Special Olympics. Beginning in 1991 he became involved in the Executive Commission of the Los Angeles Inner-City Games, a mini Olympics designed to help kids say "no" to drugs and violence and "yes" to fitness as a way of life. He sees athletics as a positive alternative to drugs for urban youth, a way to build self esteem, a way to learn goal setting and build camaraderie in a clean lifestyle. Schwarzenegger is now chairman of the Inner-City Games Foundation, a program that has expanded to 10 cities and is continuing to grow. In 1991 he received the Simon Wiesenthal Center's National Leadership Award for his support of the organization's Holocaust studies. 

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Fastwalker
Senior Member
832 posts, Mar 2003
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posted 06-25-2003 03:06 AM
quote: anyway...the real reason shitoga hates arnold...shitoga can't imagine that good people actually exist...
You make a very good point here Seeker. Another classic symptom of modern liberalism is to think everyone is guilty of that which you are guilty. The modern liberal will typically blame others for the very acts they commit, or for the very lies they make themselves. We see this quality consistently throughout Shatoga’s posts. For example, Clinton was a classic congenital liar. He couldn't help himself...and still can't. If Bill Clinton's lips were moving, it's a good bet he was lying. This is the simple and honest reality. He lies even when he doesn't need to....This is a well known proven fact. Since most liberals suffer from this same malady to one degree or another, (because liberalism, by it's nature, requires one to live in a fantasy world..a world of illusion or lies) they assume that EVERYONE is a liar as they are. In the mind of a liberal, if Clinton was a liar, so too is Bush. If Clinton makes DNA stains on dresses in the oval office, no big deal, everyone does it. If Clinton snorted cocaine (as his own brother testified that he "has a nose like a vacuum cleaner") liberals just assume that Bush did it too, despite the complete lack of facts or evidence. We are all deviants in the mind of a modern liberal, because they need to think this way to justify their own deviancy. If they are not a very good person, they assume everyone to be the same way, in order to justify their own existence, so they don’t have to aspire to reach goals beyond their reality. They need to define deviancy down in order create the illusion of moral superiority in their own minds, so they can avoid responsibility for themselves and their own actions....Not a good way to go through life....
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theseeker
One moon circles

Damnit...I'm a doctor jim 3297 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 06-25-2003 04:12 AM
We are all deviants in the mind of a modern liberalyep one of the tenents of liberalism only it was "universal sufferage" ..an attitude certainly magnified...in today's specimin...as you pointed out in the bush / clinton analogy....a "we are what they are" type deal...and that just ain't the case... BTW,throw in a little earest angley and presto shitoga ! 

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Fastwalker
Senior Member
832 posts, Mar 2003
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posted 06-25-2003 05:13 AM
Right you are Seekermon, but what's an earest angley?
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Fastwalker
Senior Member
832 posts, Mar 2003
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posted 06-25-2003 05:19 AM
Oh...you mean Earnest Angley! I Googled the name, and it seems like this guy is a televangelist or something like that. We probably don't get him out here in California.I was about to ask you if throwing in a little earest angley was like throwing in a little Diken's cider from Diken's fruit stand....Glad I didn't.... 
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