posted 06-27-2003 08:24 AM               

No. I haven't seen much material on Gunderson and Roci...(sp?) But that name keeps coming up and I'm damned curious. I had 2 guests come up on GCN's "Intel Report" and EVERYBODY seems to be ripping Gunderson for something. Disinformation and COINTELPRO involves having disinfo 'plants' on many sides to muddy the waters. They want so much junk in the water that people can't tell what's truth and what's not.

It IS true Bush's ARE SATANISTS. Hartwell and her ilk say this.

It IS true that they were involved in 9-11 and other 'terrorism' pushing the police state.

It IS true that MK-Ultra and other CIA mind control programs are used to create assasins, sex slaves, information couriers and more.

Babbles and others LIE in specific areas such as Project Monarch and DETAILS Fritz Sprinmeier did NOT lie on.

Hint: that's why he's setup and JAILED like Mark Koernke was.

And speaking of Koernke, his former partner on the radio John Stadtmiller is ALSO a covert govt. PLANT trying to take OUR "Intel Report" OFF GCN. Ours is sanctioned by Mark's wife Nancy. Stadtmiller has put up at least one of Hartwell's flunkies spreading such ridiculous stories as: "The U.S. is going to be attacked by a MILLION Chinese looking ROBOTOIDS."

I shit you not!

And since I and others COMPLAINED, Stadtmiller merely shifted this creep to the Jeremy Floyd show and he's had him up almost EVERY OTHER NIGHT!!

This is critical as Stadtmiller is right there with Alex Jones who people have come to TRUST for 'alternative' information.

I agree with what Alex says 99% of the time now. This is up since he finally came on board with info against ZIONISM and CHEMTRAILS. Now, isn't it LOGICAL that the stinking globalists would look for any way into this 'alternative' radio???

Shortwave is supposedly now being JAMMED by data transmissions on AC power lines. We're VERY CLOSE to the next STAGED attack to push Patriot Act II and the final TAKEOVER of this country by these SATANISTS!!

When the internet and phone lines go down, you'd better be locked and loaded.

Or ready for Ashcrack's DETENTION CAMPS.

posted 06-27-2003 08:27 AM            

Glad to see some know the truth.

FACTION TWO are the only people who are stopping "the takeover"by the NWO from happening Hi-tech.

Faction two are a very silent but effective rebellion among the illuminati. Some of them are actually the illuminati's children.

posted 06-27-2003 08:49 AM               

I use 'Biblical' prophecy as a foundation or compass reference point for 'TRUTH.'

Hartwell babbling about the 'good Aliens' was a dead giveaway as I KNOW these are the FALLEN ANGELS. A post on Rense.com CONFIRMED this again with the 'Milk Hill' crop circle text which showed a text tied to the cabbalists and TALMUDists which are LUCIFERIAN. Just one example.

The Bible basically indicates the 'saints' are pretty well squished by the NWO. The 'saints' actually WIN by losing and the globalists LOSE by winning. Because AFTER they take control for a SHORT period of time, they'll be DESTROYED! But the 'good' goys are gonna go first. Kinda the essence of 'faith' if you will.

Also, there's a LOT of disinfo on this 'Faction 2' also. While I hope there truly ARE those 'inside' who will show a concience and REBEL... The globalists have been doing PURGES lately using lie detectors and history on thier minions. It is a known tactic to make sure their minions are COMPROMISED by either being paedophiles, queers murderers or thieves themselves. In other words, if there are FEDs who don't meet this low life criteria, they'll get MORE scrutiny from the globalists. Lucifer knows who are his own so to speak.

Also, I don't know about 'Faction 2' but there is a 'dove of oneness' NEW AGE group spreading partial truth about Bush mixed with LIES about NESARA. They talk about the 'white knights' who are like the Faction 2. Anyway, they are actually PROPAGANDIZING for a new FIAT paper currency soon to come out. They also push New Age ideology.

Ever see the movie "Dune"??? (The original by De Laurentis NOT the remake.)

Plans WITHIN plans! Layered as they unfold. Very tricky to cut through the DECEIT.

posted 06-27-2003 09:05 AM            

explain how this is being done larry...

When the internet and phone lines go down, you'd better be locked and loaded.

or just have your cell phone handy...

posted 06-27-2003 09:37 AM               

People need a backup sytem such as CB's with linears, ham and others and some backups protected from EMP.

posted 06-27-2003 09:40 AM            

Also letters to Powell and Ashcroft wanring of 911 from riconsiouto six months before the attack. Info attained via the promis software. Alledgedly.

As for NESARA faction 1 or 2..they are both one and the same. Count St Germaine was and is Manley P Hall and he attended the orginal bilderberg meeting..so who is BSing who?

If you read any of Trevor Constable, Wilhelm Reich and Steiners stuff you will see that alien entities have been here way before us humans and so friendly or foe whatever transpires in the next couple of years will be just another manifestation of what the powers that be want us to believe.

The same old trick of divide and conquer.

Until we get up of our collective arses, black, white, east or west and take action we deserve all we are going to get...it would be nice to have at least a sporting chance but they have been Fxxxing with us with fluoride for far too long.

posted 06-27-2003 10:05 AM            

I believe Faction Two IS real and most certainly fighting the NWO...but many get seduced and swayed by money and power.

posted 06-27-2003 10:38 AM            

Quote:
A huge, recurrent coronal hole (CH46) mainly in the southern hemisphere and with a large leading trans equatorial extension will rotate into a geoeffective position from late on June 24 until July 2.

1) Effects from a coronal hole could reach Earth within the next 5 days.
2) Material from a CME is likely to impact Earth within 96 hours.
3) There is a possibility of either M or X class flares within the next 48 hours.

June 23 image shows CH46 http://www.dxlc.com/solar/images/AR_CH_20030622.jpg
June 24 image shows CH46 massively enlarged( approx 12x larger) http://www.dxlc.com/solar/
got to scroll down to view.
http://www.space.com/businesstechnology/technology/soho_impact_030623.html

>During such an event everything from television broadcasts to pager services and weather forecasts vital to airlines, even terrestrial power grids, are suddenly more vulnerable to failure. <

As much as I'd personally like to blame Bush and his evil minions.

The sun may be what is interfering with radio (Ham) communications.

Dubya is evil.
But he is not yet that powerful*
Rev Moon notwithstanding.
*Not yet at least!

posted 06-27-2003 10:48 AM            

quote:

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Originally posted by Mech:
Hi Tech is correct about Shortwave being screwed..in many areas it's virtually blocked by noise from this new system.

I believe Faction Two IS real and most certainly fighting the NWO...but many get seduced and swayed by money and power.

As far as the NESARA stuff is concerned...i'll believe it when I see it.

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Icke commented that many people say of a politician who has gained significant power and influence:

He's not the person I used to know. It's as if another has taken over.

the pedophilia and other occult practices of skull & Bones and other NWO organizations, serves to make an individual open to possession by the NWO entities.

Who or what, ever they are.

posted 06-27-2003 11:54 AM            

don't know about shortwave...I have modern sources for media...on the AM side if you drive under lines and hear a buzz they are not insulated...