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David
Chemtrail Information Agent
1245 posts, Oct 2000
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posted 06-25-2003 10:16 AM
  
UGER ADDIB, Iraq, June 24 — On a desolate panorama of hardtack desert along the Syrian border here, the United States military has cordoned off part of this village, evicted five families whose houses were bombed six days ago and refused to say what is going on.
Two villagers were killed, a young woman, Hakima Khalil, and her infant daughter, Maha, in an aerial assault that began just after 1 a.m. Thursday.
At dusk today, a convoy of more than 20 military transports arrived with earth-moving equipment and pulled into the circle of Bradley fighting vehicles that guard every approach to this sandy knoll littered with broken masonry and bomb-damaged homes.
"Stop right there," said Specialist Arthur Myers of New Jersey. "If you take a picture, I will break your camera."
The attack on the village followed a strike by American Special Forces troops on several vehicles near a Syrian border post five miles east of here. American officials in Washington described what happened as an operation focusing on a convoy of vehicles believed to be carrying senior officials of the former government of Saddam Hussein. It was not clear what they were seeking in this village, however. This stretch of border about 50 miles southwest of the main border crossing point at Qaim is known as a smuggler's haven, and Muger Addib in Arabic means "Wolf's Den." The villagers grow wheat and raise sheep by day, but they are also believed at night to run a brisk smuggling trade in native sheep, which fetch a better price in Syria and Lebanon than they do in Iraq.
Since the end of the military campaign that toppled Mr. Hussein's government, smugglers have also specialized in assisting Iraqi families seeking to leave the country and join relatives abroad across the border. American officials also suspect that former members of Mr. Hussein's government have used remote border crossings like this one to escape occupation forces.
The villagers here are from the Shamar tribe, known for its loyalty to Mr. Hussein's government. They migrated here 35 years ago from the Ramadi area just west of Baghdad.
Since the attack, families have doubled up and the evicted villagers spend their days trying to see what is going on in their houses, beyond the American sentries, a few hundred yards away. One elder, Daham Haraj, said the villagers wanted to retrieve the money and jewels they kept hidden in their houses.
"If you go and ask them for a glass of water, they wouldn't give it to you," said Hamid Muhammad Abul Fahad, 40, speaking of the soldiers who have sealed off the knoll where the five houses stand. "We are a village at the end of the world and we don't have Saddam Hussein here. We haven't seen him and we are not harboring him."
Indeed, the landscape here is forbidding, especially on a day like today when a west wind whipped up a sandstorm that forced most of the men to wrap their heads with their kaffiyehs, or head scarves, to blunt the onslaught of sand.
Out to the east, the horizons of the Syrian desert unfold to the same limitless expanse that the ancients traveled. The only signs of modernity are the occasional fresh tracks of American armored vehicles.
The sequence of events that preceded the attack suggests that American officials believed they had achieved an intelligence breakthrough with the capture June 16 of Abid Hamid Mahmoud al-Tikriti, Mr. Hussein's closest confidante and longtime personal secretary.
Officials in Washington, without citing Mr. Mahmoud in particular, said they had received information that Mr. Hussein or his sons, Uday and Qusay, may have been traveling near the Syrian border.
Separately, a senior official in the Kurdish Democratic Party, Hoshar Zebari, said in an interview in Baghdad that Kurdish security officials had received intelligence that Mr. Mahmoud had just returned from Syria when he was captured.
And, Mr. Zebari added, Mr. Mahmoud was carrying several million dollars when captured along with a cache of blank Belarussian passports obtained in Syria. He said those discoveries suggested that members of Mr. Hussein's household might be preparing to escape, or, perhaps, were creating a diversion in the direction of Syria to cover their movement elsewhere.
The attack here may have been set in motion by a final piece of intelligence that a convoy of senior members of Mr. Hussein's government were traveling in the vicinity of Qaim.
The intelligence reports may have intersected last Wednesday when helicopters appeared here just after 10 p.m. and then wheeled quickly toward the border where they struck the trucks.
The villagers watched and listened to the attack that began late Wednesday night, and said they saw at least two vehicles burning on the horizon.
"They first started hitting the Syrian border and then they came at us," Mr. Fahad said. "We saw something like a shooting star going through the sky and then it dropped on our village."
Mahmoud Hamad, 24, was sleeping on a cot outside, as is the custom here in the heat of summer, when the first missile struck his house and raked his bed with shrapnel. He was recovering from his wounds today at the Qaim General Hospital, 50 miles to the northeast.
"I can't remember much except that blood was everywhere and I was dizzy," he said.
His brother, Ahmed Hamad, 27, was farther away from the house on another pallet. "I heard it when it hit, and I felt the wind and fire of the blast and then I saw my brother falling down and I ran to him."
Muhammad Hamad, 25, said his wife and daughter were killed instantly by shrapnel from the missile strike.
Today, the desert just inside the Syrian border was littered with the debris of an attack that destroyed three vehicles, a pickup truck, a large transport truck and a tanker similar to those used for carrying water or smuggling petroleum products across this remote frontier to Syria.
A charred AK-47 assault rifle was visible in the wreckage of the pickup truck.
The vehicles destroyed in the desert were typical of those used in the smuggling of sheep, which is a common form of commerce here — a lead pickup with an armed guard, a transport for the sheep and a water tanker needed to water the flock on the long passage across the Syrian desert to market.
American officials have said that five Syrian border guards were wounded in the attack, and that three of them remain in American custody.
They would not say whether the guards were hit by ground fire or from the air. Syria has yet to comment on the incident.
At the Syrian border post today, the garrison of about a dozen soldiers went to general quarters when a reporter approached from the Iraqi side, making the passage across a stretch of no-man's land too dangerous for inquiry.
The arrival of earth-moving equipment here suggested that American military forces may be preparing to set up a base here to guard this section of border.
[Edited 2 times, lastly by David on 06-25-2003]
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theseeker
One moon circles
Damnit...I'm a doctor jim
3297 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 06-25-2003 02:26 PM
no link no credibility... now why don't you mosey on back up to the main restricted forum...where your safe...and that type of "crap" post is acceptable... btw you suck 
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David
Chemtrail Information Agent
1245 posts, Oct 2000
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posted 06-25-2003 02:36 PM
It's from the NY Times and their links do not stay up.
I'll post where I please.
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theseeker
One moon circles
Damnit...I'm a doctor jim
3297 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 06-25-2003 05:19 PM
nobody complains more about contrary opinion than you dervid...just trying to save your worn out ticker some grief... and just because you say it is from the ny times don't make it so... another bogus article from dervid...
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David
Chemtrail Information Agent
1245 posts, Oct 2000
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posted 06-25-2003 05:34 PM
So now what are you going to resort to seeker, slamming me for having a bad heart?
You are a very small man indeed seeker, growing smaller with each passing day and with each post you make.
Thermit, on another thread, has asked for people to act more like adults, that would include you, greg.
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theseeker
One moon circles
Damnit...I'm a doctor jim
3297 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 06-25-2003 06:31 PM
slamming me for having a bad heartactually, until I heard this news I was convinced you did not have one... and considering all the "shit" you have given the mods here...your plea is a little weak....
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David
Chemtrail Information Agent
1245 posts, Oct 2000
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posted 06-25-2003 07:15 PM
I've given only what I have recieved seeker, no more no less.
Lets not twist this around, I made no plea to anyone for anything, thermit made the request, not I. I was simply passing along the information.As far as not having a heart, you certainly qualify for that award. Glass houses and all that.
I don't follow you around the board slamming you seeker so don't follow me...
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theseeker
One moon circles
Damnit...I'm a doctor jim
3297 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 06-25-2003 08:14 PM
I don't follow you around the board slamming you seeker so don't follow me...I don't but like I said...given your past...a free ride on bogus posts you will not get....
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David
Chemtrail Information Agent
1245 posts, Oct 2000
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posted 06-25-2003 10:08 PM
You are hopeless. I have never posted anything but the truth. You on the other hand...This is something else you might consider, you have broken the forum rules almost daily.(see bold print)
That is something that the moderators might take into consideration as well. It has happened again within the very thread.
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theseeker
One moon circles
Damnit...I'm a doctor jim
3297 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 06-26-2003 03:06 AM
oh pooh and like YOU haven't !YOU have performed many meanspirited posts....a good majority of them towards women...and you are a snake... I calls zem as I sees zem.
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WiseQuakker
Senior Member
Mt. Vernon, WA, USA
141 posts, Aug 2000
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posted 06-26-2003 03:28 AM
I guess that’s why you’re afraid to look in the mirror. You have no room to talk, you little piss-ant...
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theseeker
One moon circles
Damnit...I'm a doctor jim
3297 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 06-26-2003 03:38 AM
enter yet another "senior" paranoid delusional...is there a full moon ?don I can look into the mirror a damn site better than a man who thinks every pacific coast vessel was spraying him...that and the zone alarm thing...the saturn project...the witch...the wart...the rabbit...the phone call...the lawsuit against reynolds that never happened...did I leave anything out ? oh yeah...the group... I'm fine don
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WiseQuakker
Senior Member
Mt. Vernon, WA, USA
141 posts, Aug 2000
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posted 06-26-2003 06:02 AM
You’re far from being fine, One-Cheek-Sneeker. Your illness is so acute, you’re gonna be dead for half a century before you finally figure it out. Go ahead; continue to fool yourself with your grossly overblown sense of self-worth. If your wife has any sense, she’ll take the kids and find a real man - one who doesn’t spend all his family time pretending to be a man at half a dozen message boards.Did you leave out anything? Yeah, you left out plenty of anything that couldn’t come out of the mind of a high school freshman. That seems to be your mentality on just about any subject. Is that the best you can do with that hastily thrown together list, Pip-Squeeker. You fight like a little girl with your hissy fits. Nice spin on the ship tracks, butthole. Where have all the monster swarms gone that we all came to know and love? Haven’t seen anything close to them in almost a couple of years. Never did before that, either. I thought they were such a common sight. Hell, even DogBreath couldn’t answer key questions on the GDSCP. You somehow left that out of your notes. You really do have a short attention span (among other things), anyway. Don’t bitch at me about the witch and the wart thing. Everyone knows how that had Reynolds scared shitless. And you bet I was paying attention to firewall hits three years ago. I just got through being stalked and terrorized, you worthless POS. It wasn’t my fault that The Saturn Project happened to be a name shared by two separate entities. A BIG coincidence that one of them happened to be an atmospheric research program.
http://home1.gte.net/quakker/documents/hotbot_results_saturn_project.html
http://home1.gte.net/quakker/documents/saturn_reverse_lookup.html The only thing you may be free to laugh at is the nowhere lawsuit. Shit, the FBI wouldn’t even give Chickie Deb the time of day when her life was threatened. But speaking of “the rabbit...the phone call...” In case you missed it previously, I don’t have any sense of humor over what you have claimed to be a deception on my part. You get this straight, Greggy Boy, your accusations and you making light of things aren’t the least bit funny. If I had just “pissed off someone” – as you put it – to the point they would terrorize my household for three months, I would have remembered that. As it stands, I led an uneventful life until I got interested in the chemtrail issue. Yeah, I pissed off some people, all right. And with or without your permission, it most likely happened the way I suggested that it did. If it’s too “circumstantial” for you, you might want to borrow a two-year-old somewhere who can show you how to connect the dots, ya dumb f---. As for the phone call, it was witnessed by my co-workers and was investigated by Boeing Security. If you want to verify any of that, you can call ’em yourself. Otherwise, you can just ESAD. But since you seem to think the whole thing is so funny, I’m gonna finish by repeating something for you and I don’t give a shit if you like it or not. What you deserve is to have someone – not necessarily a crazed chemmie – who decides to stalk you, inflict bodily harm, and be so professional about it that your little peashooter won’t do you a damned bit of good. Maybe that would take the grin off your pathetic little face...
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theseeker
One moon circles
Damnit...I'm a doctor jim
3297 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 06-26-2003 09:57 AM
your just weird man...and I doubt reynolds was scared the least bit...As it stands, I led an uneventful life until I got interested in the chemtrail issue. yeah that's what YOU say...too many have come and gone and stayed in this issue...for folks to be harrassed... I think maybe YOU bobB and sonny gowl have had problems of terrorism of which you seem to be advocating yet again...what is it with you chemmies anyway...it's a running joke that sonny ain't real and has been jeking you people's chain for awhile... in a similar respect only a few of you "researchers" have ever done anything to try and test the validity of your aerosol induced fantasy's...unless you count search engines... not one chemmie showed up for this party... http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/ubb/Forum15/HTML/000091.html
and no it does not surprise me...
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David
Chemtrail Information Agent
1245 posts, Oct 2000
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posted 06-26-2003 10:08 AM
"YOU have performed many meanspirited posts....a good majority of them towards women."BS seeker, I have not made 'meanspirited posts' toward women, it would be one woman, nasty mouthed looloo...and she got what she deserved. Her posts to me speak for themselves. I give what I recieve.
Again you lie and twist unable to tell the truth.
Your constant bashing, false accusing and innuendos is again breaking the forum rules.
As far as mean spirited posts go greg, you do that on a daily basis.
Your life must suck big time for you to try and bolster your sagging ego and very low self esteem by constantly bashing others.
I actually feel sorry for you greg.
[Edited 1 times, lastly by David on 06-26-2003]
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poison
Senior Member
Upper Sandusky Ohio USA
39 posts, Sep 2001
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posted 06-26-2003 11:27 PM
Seeker seems to be an uninformed trouble maker just here to piss off the hard working people!
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theseeker
One moon circles
Damnit...I'm a doctor jim
3297 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 06-27-2003 12:28 AM
maybe poison could point out where I'm uninformed ?
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