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Dry Cough
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Salem OR Marion
62 posts, May 2001

posted 07-06-2003 04:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dry Cough     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I believe this story is on afghannews.net - I will try to get the link and post it in a separate post - this and what is going on at Guantanamo is why these people have no qualms about spraying poison on OUR heads or preparing SR 89 to draft all your children ages 18-26 (some say the Repubicans want it 18-59 which would include most of US) for two years mandatory service in the military or as citizen spies for Vaterland Security. I'm waiting for Bush to start integrating the swastika into the American flag or put a nice big phoenix in there somewhere - we already have the illuminati pyramind in DARPA.
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Another detainee dies in US custody in Afghanistan
Wednesday, July 2nd, 2003

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WSWS.org (By: Rick Kelly) - US military authorities reported last week that a man detained in Afghanistan had died on June 21. In a brief statement, media spokesman Colonel Rodney Davis reported that the Afghan detainee died while imprisoned at a US “holding facility” near Asadabad in the eastern province of Konar.

Military authorities refused to release any information on the deceased man’s identity, or on any of the circumstances surrounding his death. “The man was taken under control June 18 [and] transported to the holding facility at a security compound, where he stayed until his death,” the statement read. “The man’s death is under investigation.” No explanation was given as to why the man was detained or the conditions under which he was held.

The military’s efforts to bury the story of the highly suspicious death have been assisted by the media’s complete lack of interest. Apart from brief stories by Associated Press and the Washington Post, the unexplained death of an unnamed prisoner, arrested without charge and denied access to a lawyer, has been passed over in silence. No one has asked what happened between the man’s capture on June 18 and his death three days later.

While it remains possible that the man died of natural causes, it is the least likely of the alternatives. The vast majority of the people detained in Afghanistan have been young men. If this prisoner was suffering from a serious illness or injury or was wounded during his capture, then the US military is criminally negligent. The man should have been receiving treatment in a hospital rather than being held in a military facility.

The only other possible explanation for the man’s death is that he died as a result of the interrogation techniques used by the US military and the CIA. If this were indeed the case, this man would not have been the first person to be tortured to death by US interrogators in Afghanistan. Moreover, it would explain the reluctance of the military authorities to provide even the most elementary facts concerning the dead man.

In separate incidents last December, two other men died while being interrogated by US personnel in the Bagram air base, headquarters for US forces in Afghanistan. While the military initially claimed that the men had died of natural causes, its own pathologists subsequently revealed that both men had suffered blunt force trauma and classified the deaths as homicides. More than six months after these deaths the official investigation is still being dragged out.

The torture of hundreds of detainees has been a common US practice in the “war on terror” in Afghanistan. Military and intelligence officials have openly admitted to depriving prisoners of sleep, shackling detainees for extended periods, selectively withholding medical treatment, and forcing prisoners to stand in painful positions for hours at a time.

The Bush administration denies that this treatment constitutes torture, and insists that “stress and duress” techniques are legitimate interrogation techniques. Human rights groups and authorities on international law have refuted this claim. The US treatment of prisoners that is defended by military and intelligence officials is actually illegal under the UN anti-torture convention as ratified by the US Congress in 1994.

Washington’s complete disregard for most basic democratic rights of detainees ensures that US interrogators can act with complete impunity. Men detained in Afghanistan are routinely classified as “enemy combatants” and, as such, denied all access to legal counsel or even contact with their families and friends.

In these conditions, the treatment of detainees under interrogation goes beyond what is cynically referred to as “torture-lite” in US intelligence circles. There is a mounting body of evidence demonstrating that US officials use physical violence while interrogating prisoners. Earlier this year, a US intelligence official told Associated Press that on top of the standard “stress and duress” techniques, interrogators at Guantanamo Bay in Cuba are allowed “a little bit of smacky-face”, since “some Al Qaeda just need some extra encouragement”.

The Bush administration has been widely criticised by human rights groups for its cruel and degrading treatment suffered by the people it holds in detention. There have been repeated calls for the US to respect international law and the basic human rights of detainees. Amnesty International has previously reported: “Deaths in custody and suicide attempts raise grave doubts about conditions of detention and methods of interrogation that are not only beyond the pale, but also beyond the law”.

Contemptuous of such criticism, President Bush marked the UN’s Torture Victims Recognition Day last week by declaring that the US did not torture or treat cruelly any detainees. “The United States is committed to the worldwide elimination of torture and we are leading this fight by example. I call on all governments to join with the United States and the community of law-abiding nations in prohibiting, investigating, and prosecuting all acts of torture and in undertaking to prevent other cruel and unusual punishment,” he said.

The cynicism is breathtaking. Not only has the US failed to recognise the basic democratic rights of detainees or to provide any explanation for three recent deaths in custody in Afghanistan, but the CIA is known to “render” prisoners to third countries such as Jordan and Egypt for torture under US supervision. Moreover, as the US-based Human Rights Watch recently noted, officials in countries with a record of torturing prisoners now counter criticisms by declaring that they are acting no differently to the Bush administration.

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theseeker
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Damnit...I'm a doctor jim
3297 posts, Jul 2000

posted 07-06-2003 05:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for theseeker   Visit theseeker's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
oh well...maybe they will stop bombing innocent civilians...

muslims can't be happy suppressing their own population and brutalizing women...they had to pick on the U.S...

they get what they get...

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Dry Cough
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posted 07-06-2003 05:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dry Cough     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.afghannews.net/news.php?topicid=1831

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Dry Cough
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posted 07-06-2003 05:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dry Cough     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Seeker - I don't go along with those items you mentioned but I don't buy into the "official" story of who carried out 9-11 - before you totally buy into it yourself, you should at least give yourself a chance to view Alex Jones video 911: The Road to Tyranny or Erik Huffschmeid's video about 911, to name just two. Our government has a long practice of either allowing things to occur to get us into a war as they did with the bombing of Pearl Harbor, or carrying it out themselves and then blaming foreign governments for it in order to get us into a war, as they have themselves admitted in the Northwoods document which even the mainstream media covered regarding the Maine. I for one wonder why did Bush et al order NORAD to stand down when all of this was occuring, while little old golfer Paine Stewart's plane was immediately surrounded, etc.? These are the same guys who spray chemtrails on our heads - not to mention that there is evidence that the Pakistani guy who headed up Al-Qaeda was breakfasting in D.C. the morning of 9-11 with house and senate leaders, Ari Flesicher's admittal that the entire Bush cabinet was on Cipro September 10th, etc etc etc. Just like all the live coverage of the Oklahoma City Murrah building all talked about the three bombs INSIDE the building, then after about a half hour of initial coverage, all of a sudden it was a "truck bomb." My relative who is a structural engineer, says there is NO WAY the Murrah building could have come down with only a fertilizer bomb - plus the photos of the area show NO CRATER where the truck was, though the area was quickly demolished so that people would not remember and only remember the official "drawings" demonstrating a crater when the pix taken before the demolition showed NONE.

ALSO, the live 911 tapes of the NY firefighters discuss how there are "bombs going off" inside the Trade Towers - audio tapes that Rudy Giuliani seized and refused to make public for "security" reasons - but the firefighters who know better have come forward and complained. Wasn't it nice that building number 7 that wasn't even hit by a plane came down smoothly just like the trade towers did, ala professional demolition style, instead of big chunks falling off awkwardly and raining down or crashing into surrounding buildings, as would have happened had there perhaps been only the planes at fault? Not to mention that a good portion of the fuel was burned on impact, and that firefighters also said on the audio tapes to their colleagues who have testified that it "wasn't bad" up there where the fire was?

Seek the truth, Seeker - you won't be disappointed - don't buy into everything you hear in the mainstream media, whose interest of telling YOU or anyone else the entire story is slim indeed. Have they told us the truth about chemtrails? NO - enough said.

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