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Mech
Commitees of Correspondence
The Minuteman State
6217 posts, Jun 2001
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posted 07-12-2003 04:30 PM
   
O'LIE-ly is nothing but a TOOL for Rupert Murdock's FAUX NEWS..a perfect tool for the globalists/NWO.
Alex Jones would tear that coward NWO mouthpiece limb from limb in a debate...no contest.
BBC Reporter Greg Palast: " Alex is a national treasure, a light breaking through the electronic Berlin Wall of the US media establishment." 
  Bill O'Reily.." SHUT UP!! "Turn his Mike off!" He's done!" ...In response to his guest whose parents died in the WTC who blamed the event on the Bush admin.... FOR THE REAL NEWS AND COMMENTARY.... http://www.infowars.com
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/index.html
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Fastwalker
Senior Member
832 posts, Mar 2003
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posted 07-13-2003 09:47 AM
Alex Jones is a lying con-artist...I think O'Reilly would have him for lunch.But lest I play the same stupid game of demonizing without fact, let's talk issues. Let's talk specifics. Give me ONE issue where you think Bill O'Reilly lied or is just wrong in your opinion. Let's talk about it... Otherwise, you leftist bags of hot gas don't know what the hell you are talking about. (Sorry for stating the obvious)....
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knowthis
New Member
21 posts, Jul 2003
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posted 07-13-2003 11:03 AM
See, some time ago O'Reilly lied repeatedly about getting a prestigious Peabody Award for "Inside Edition." (It turns out that the show did receive an award, but it was a Polk - and it was a year after O'Reilly left.) Yet for some reason, plain-speaking, "no-spin" Bill has never admitted that he tried to pass off this falsehood as the truth, and instead tries to blow it off like it was some kind of verbal gaffe. So when Franken decided to point this out to Bill, Mr. Fair And Balanced exploded Bill O'Reilly Lied About Calling For The Pepsi Boycott
O'Reilly recently claimed, after bashing the notion of a boycott of Rush Limbaugh's sponsors, that he himself had never called for a boycott. It was yet another in a long string of O'Reilly lies.
"To claim you did not call for a boycott because you, never actually used the word "boycott" is in Bill's own words, spin. He said he is going to stop drinking pepsi, and he urged his viewers to stop drinking it too. No matter how you spin it, that's calling for a fricking boycott..." In the O’Reilly Factor show on May 13, 2003, in an interview with an attorney from the National Law Center, Bill O’Reilly said:
“You know, in Europe, this kind of child molestation and child rape is – you know, they let them do it. They don’t enforce it. And in countries like Denmark, it’s even legal.” – taken from transcript of the show made by FDCH e-media, Inc.
This is not true. Child molestation, child rape and child abuse in any form is illegal in Denmark. Spreading, acquiring or possessing child pornography is also against Danish law.
The Danish Embassy finds it deeply deplorable that a news channel calling itself “fair and balanced” did not find it worthwhile to check the facts before making such grave accusations against a longtime friend and ally of the United States.
The Answer is NO , he did not keep his word, he did not apologize to the nation. On April 22 Bill said "if weapons of mass destruction aren't found,... I will have to apologize because I bought into it... All right, a month from today, we'll do this story again" **On March 18 Bill said "if the Americans go in and overthrow Saddam Hussein and it's clean, he has nothing, I will apologize to the nation, and I will not trust the Bush Administration again" *
On the May 22nd show Bill did discuss the Central Intelligence Agency review to determine whether the American intelligence community erred in its prewar assessments of Saddam Hussein's government and Iraq's weapons programs. However, he did not make good on his promise to have his guest (Retired U.S. Army Lt. Col. Robert Maginnis) return to review the hunt for weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.
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Fastwalker
Senior Member
832 posts, Mar 2003
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posted 07-13-2003 11:24 AM
These are the "big lies" you leftists are whining about? LOL.....comments such as not drinking Pepsi and whether that's a call for a boycott or not? Al Franken the liberal big mouth, professional liar is your big leader on this one? Geez....this is absolutely petty and pathetic and of absolutely no consequence....even humorous, when one thinks about all the really important issues in the world. Makes me like O'Reilly even more.
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knowthis
New Member
21 posts, Jul 2003
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posted 07-13-2003 12:06 PM
A lie is a lie, can you explain to me the difference between a good and a bad one? Your obviously an expert on the issue. The guy lies several times, every show, lies based upon lies. You like him because you enjoy being misinformed, congratulations. Most people wouldn't want to admit to that. Republicans made a career about Clinton and his blowjob. I suppose that's one of those "important" lies right? After all, his sex life has so much to do with running the country. But we got to hear about it incessantly for years after. So yeah, I'm going to point out every little fib and fable, trivial or not. If O'reilly can't tell the truth about the smallest of issues, why should he be trusted with anything period? Compulsive liars have an addiction that cannot be contained, The Factor exemplifies this.
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knowthis
New Member
21 posts, Jul 2003
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posted 07-13-2003 12:29 PM
Good stuff right hereWhy America Sucks
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Motherfucking Fox News
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"FOX is the absolute worst. Fox News, America's Propaganda Machine." "Fox News isn't news. Tragically, most Americans don't even realize it. Fox 'News' is a 24-hour broadcast of opinion. You never see a Fox News reporter on the scene describing what he sees; instead you see these arrogant studio dickheads and puff-brained bitches sitting in front of the camera, all dressed in nice clothes with their hair freshly styled, doing their damnedest to influence you to agree with what they are saying." "This is a very important distinction. They are not informing the audience, the are attempting to persuade the audience." "Hannity and Colmes? That's not news. That's two big-mouthed idiots sitting at a table together telling the world what they think about this or that event." "The O'Reilly Factor? That's one of the most revolting examples of propaganda I've ever seen, rivaling even that of the great swine himself, Rush Limbaugh. The guy's the biggest dickhead I've ever seen! Inviting people to his show so that he can ask them a series of questions, never listening to an answer, interrupting his prey…I mean his guest in mid-sentence to ask them another question, each question serving as a premise that will ultimately support his specious conclusion, which was clearly decided upon well in advance of the interview. I'm not a Bible-beater, but I'm convinced that if there is a hell, Bill O'Reilly is earning himself fare for a one-way ticket every time he opens his mouth on that show." "And Charlie Gibson? One word: weasel. He is a weasel incarnate. I saw him rolling his eyes every time somebody called in and spoke against drilling in Alaska. Rolling his eyes. I was so mad. I still am. He knows full good and well the impact that will have on people, how it will sway people to agree with him that we should start drilling in Alaska. Was there any real information, any real news in his spot? No. Did he tell any of us how that drilling would come about, who would do it, how they would do it, and how they would benefit? No. The U.S. government isn't going to go up there and drill that oil. They're going to lease out the jobs to a company like Shell or Exxon or Occidental, and those private, profit-driven corporations are going to go up there, practically unregulated, free to pollute as they see fit and do nothing about it, and then they're going to sell that oil back to us, the American public, the people who own the oil in the first place, all for a very tidy profit. Rolling his eyes." "Then there was the night on "The O'Reilly Factor" when Billy-boy just blamed the 9/11 Twin Tower disaster on Clinton. Not hard to believe, considering that Fox News is the most blatantly right-wing propaganda machine in network television. He still calls Newt Gingrich 'Mr. Speaker.' That was the night he was bashing the UN. O'Reilly got Newt Gingrich and Jean Kirkpatrick (from the Reagan administration) as guests. That is Fox's idea of 'media diversity.' They have two right-wing commentators offer slightly different opinions of the same event." "Then there was the night they were pushing hard for an eradication of the corporate tax." "Then there was the night when Fox News ran some pieces on how 'unemployment is good." "That piglet O'Reilly was beating up the editor of the People's World Weekly, calling him a propagandist, of all things." "Takes one to know one, I guess…."
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Fastwalker
Senior Member
832 posts, Mar 2003
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posted 07-13-2003 01:07 PM
This intellectual and classy OPINION piece of hypocrisy and profanity is from Franken, I presume? You should state your sources, if you're going to cut an paste. It does have a point however....Much of Fox News is editorial opinions, but Fox Nexs doesn't try to pretend that these shows like Hannity and Colmes or The OReilly Factor are not editorial segments. These segments make no pretense about being objective reporting as the mainstream news channels do. Objective reporting is not their purpose. Fox has other segments that do that. Col. North, embedded with the troops during the war was an example of objective reporting...but Hannity and Colmes or The Factor...is not. They do not pretend to be. They are forums where people with opposing views can state opinion on a given news event. Sean Hannity or Allen Colmes or Bill O'Reilly do not try to hide their perspective or opinions. In fact, they explicitly state what their bias is, but they give others of the opposing perspective a chance to argue their side as well. This is not a hidden agenda...just as Rush Limbaugh does not have a hidden agenda. They have an EXPLICIT and well EXPRESSED agenda and bias. The purpose is to offer a forum for the other side to argue their viewpoints, and argument is the only way to find out which side is spinning or lying. Conservatives realize this fact...that left wing arguments rarely hold up when explored. The purpose of these editorial forums is to explore and challenge leftist spin...and what we find is that they do not hold up under scrutiny. The purpose of these forums such as Hannity and Colmes, The Factor and the Rush Limbaugh show is not to report on news. It is to comment on the news that has already been reported. That's why I'm asking you to stick to a specific issue. We find in almost every case, that leftist comments do not hold up to scrutiny. One benefit of the Fox News channel, is that it has broken the biased monopoly and hidden agenda of the mainstream media. It brings the arguments out into the open and questions the spin. Other news sources such as CNN become better as a result of trying to compete with this. I just saw some excellent interviews on CNN as they try to compete. For example, on live with Wolf Blitzer, I just saw Condoleeza Rice allowed significant time to make an excellent case as to the reality of the spin (about Bush's 14 word State of the Union comment regarding Saddam's attempt to acquire uranium from Africa) that the Democrat party is currently trying to use to discredit Bush. Rice put this spin in perspective and CNN gave her the time and forum to do this. I seriously doubt this kind of equal time would have ever been the case, had it not been for competition like Fox News. Trust me, you do not want to hold a guy like Al Franken, whose limit of intellectual depth goes as far as calling Rush Limbaugh a "big fat idiot", as your spokesman. If you do, I will thoroughly enjoy shooting holes in your arguments and illuminating them for the shallow hit pieces they are. With intellectual leaders like this...the left is making it so easy.
[Edited 1 times, lastly by Fastwalker on 07-14-2003]
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the professor
KNOW YOUR ROLE
heartland USA
1164 posts, Jan 2003
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posted 07-13-2003 01:25 PM
The left always scream we want to be heard, we need the media to be fair and freedom of speech but when fox steps up to the plate they don't like it. The left hate any other opinion than theirs and these forums should also help prove my case.
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knowthis
New Member
21 posts, Jul 2003
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posted 07-13-2003 01:49 PM
Most O'reilly viewers aren't able to distinguish between fact and fiction. They seem to accept his falsehoods as being credible and valid. They quote him like he's some sort of messiah. I suppose these shows are supposed to be just entertainment, but why do they appear on Fox "NEWS"? Where is this news? The O'reilly show is really nothing more than a comedy act, not to be taken seriously. The problem is, too many morons believe everything they hear. I wouldn't mind his show, if he would just admit that it's all just satire. Yet he tries to assume the role of a prestigious journalist. The guy hosted A Current Affair before the Factor for god's sake. Now all of a sudden he's a political figurehead, c'mon. Now all of this other copycat shows are emulating his style for ratings. No conviction or dignity at all, just salivating for those precious ratings. Sacrificing reality all the way to attain them. And O'reilly will even lie about his shows ratings, inflating the numbers and exaggerating them shamelessly. I'm not a liberal, or a democrat or whatever. I feel that all politicians are self righteous zealots that can never be trusted. It's just that democrats seem to be lesser of two evils. Thats the only reason I will vote Democratic all the way. That is if my vote actually counts anyway, but lets not get in to that whole thing again. Anyway, I don't see Bill as being as being responsible, fair, or even likable for that matter. He constantly interrupts people and intentionally leaves out any facts that don't support his argument. His guests are predominantly republican, while claiming to be "fair and balanced". He pretends to be neutral politically when he clearly is not. The guy even lies about his social background, claims to be part of the working class. It's all a major sham, how can one have any respect for such an atrocity of a show?
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the professor
KNOW YOUR ROLE
heartland USA
1164 posts, Jan 2003
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posted 07-13-2003 03:13 PM
So I gather you'll be supporting Hillary when she runs.
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theseeker
One moon circles
Damnit...I'm a doctor jim
3403 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 07-13-2003 04:49 PM
 o'reilly a good guy...fights for what's right... too bad your so indoctrinated you don't know what "right" is anymore... 
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knowthis
New Member
21 posts, Jul 2003
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posted 07-13-2003 04:51 PM
Republicans have a way of banding together like a colony of ants, it's sickening. Where's the raid?
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the professor
KNOW YOUR ROLE
heartland USA
1164 posts, Jan 2003
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posted 07-14-2003 12:44 AM
So now you want to use chemicals against us? I thought you were against that. Unless someone doesn't think like you , you want them gassed. Typical and conservatives are the bad guys.
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Mech
Commitees of Correspondence
The Minuteman State
6217 posts, Jun 2001
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posted 07-14-2003 03:56 AM
No..Conservatives good....NEO-CONS BAD!
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shatoga
Agent Provocateur
1049 posts, Nov 2002
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posted 07-14-2003 04:06 AM
O'Really is a proven liar.
A lie is a lie is a lie is a lie
O'Reilly is a liar.
Real Conservatives like Barry Goldwater GOOD.
Neo-cons = nazis/bad!
Real American patriots good!
Neo-con NWO agents bad!
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ChemCaptain
Senior Member
United States
495 posts, Apr 2003
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posted 07-14-2003 04:39 AM
Real American patriots good! - Everyone who agrees with Shatty's thinking.Neo-con NWO agents bad! - Everyone who doesn't.
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shatoga
Agent Provocateur
1049 posts, Nov 2002
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posted 07-14-2003 04:50 AM
Real American patriots good! -
[/QUOTE]everyone who agrees with a real American Patriot: Barry Goldwater = GOOD Neo-con NWO agents bad! - Everyone who doesn't.
[/B][/QUOTE] Everyone who agrees with Hitler instead = BAD No chance to misunderstand.
Barry always said the truth. Sold out is soulless: (bushed!)
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ChemCaptain
Senior Member
United States
495 posts, Apr 2003
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posted 07-14-2003 05:01 AM
So you've just said that anyone who disagrees with Barry Goldwater is a NWO Agent..First, I know you may not have actually meant it exactlly like that (or maybe you did), doesn't that seem a little crazy to you? Who's the nazi? You're worse than the conservatives on bush shatty. edit: btw fix your quote brackets 
[Edited 2 times, lastly by ChemCaptain on 07-14-2003]
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KNOW-THIS
Senior Member
965 posts, Jul 2003
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posted 07-14-2003 08:59 AM
Chemicals have been proven to be quite useful when used appropriately. Preferably against useless PESTS, like all of you degenerates. How many of these user names are just the same person posting under a different alias? I swear each of your arguments are just a rehearsed version of the prior. I guess it takes ten republican minds to come up with a single thought. Seeker: I'd assassinate your character if you had one to begin with.
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the professor
KNOW YOUR ROLE
heartland USA
1164 posts, Jan 2003
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posted 07-14-2003 07:21 PM
So what are all your names?
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graeme
Senior Member
Sebastopol, CA, USA
171 posts, May 2003
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posted 07-14-2003 08:11 PM
I thought this was appropriate to toss in here:
Doonesbury comic strip, 7.13.03Radio: Fox News- We report, YOU decide!
Liberal (listening to the radio): That has to be the most cynical slogan in the history of journalism!
Conservative (enters the room): Drives you crazy, doesn't it? You know why? Because you liberals are hung up on fairness! You actually try to respect all points of view! But conservatives feel no need whatsoever to consider other views. We know we're right, so why bother? Because we have no tradition of tolerance, we're unencumbered by doubt! So we roll you guys EVERY time!
Liberal (pauses): Actually, you make a good point.
Conservative: See! Only a loser would admit that! Does anyone disagree with that? Makes me sad to be labeled a 'liberal'- being all hungup on fairness and respecting others opinions and all those other terrible things.
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shatoga
Agent Provocateur
1049 posts, Nov 2002
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posted 07-15-2003 02:41 AM
quote:
Originally posted by graeme:
I thought this was appropriate to toss in here:
Doonesbury comic strip, 7.13.03Radio: Fox News- We report, YOU decide!
Liberal (listening to the radio): That has to be the most cynical slogan in the history of journalism!
Conservative (enters the room): Drives you crazy, doesn't it? You know why? Because you liberals are hung up on fairness! You actually try to respect all points of view! But conservatives feel no need whatsoever to consider other views. We know we're right, so why bother? Because we have no tradition of tolerance, we're unencumbered by doubt! So we roll you guys EVERY time!
Liberal (pauses): Actually, you make a good point.
Conservative: See! Only a loser would admit that! Does anyone disagree with that? Makes me sad to be labeled a 'liberal'- being all hungup on fairness and respecting others opinions and all those other terrible things.
You can say that again!
You just did!Them poor Liberals have no Rush to tell them what to think and say on a daily basis. They actually have to think for themselves! That's the difference. Liberals listen to all points of view and decide for themselves.
("what to think" is an individual decision to a Liberal)
Conservatives suppress all opposing points of view.
("what to think" is fed to Conservatives by their leaders){Rush-Hannity-Will-CNN-CNBC-Oh Really!-and other Goebbels clones)
The collective* mind is the conservatives' hive mentality.
(let the leaders tell us what to think) * as Communists and Nazis have established-
Nazis were Germany's rightwing.
Newly freed Russians identify the Communists as Russia's rightwing. The collective* mind is the conservatives' hive mentality. *NWO slave mentality
[Edited 1 times, lastly by shatoga on 07-15-2003]
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theseeker
One moon circles
Damnit...I'm a doctor jim
3403 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 07-15-2003 03:01 AM
Liberals listen to all points of view and decide for themselves.
that's bullshit liberals don't ever listen...they are 9 times out of ten screaming to inflict their opinion and mostly their philosophy on those who would really just like to live their fucking lives without taxes relating to, or influenced by specific government laws passed by liberals telling them they drive the wrong kind of car or are intolerant are too fat or smoke blah blah blah... no political group gets up the ass of the everyday joe sixpack like a liberal... period
[Edited 1 times, lastly by theseeker on 07-15-2003]
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shatoga
Agent Provocateur
1049 posts, Nov 2002
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posted 07-15-2003 03:56 AM
thanks for the proof that:
>Conservatives suppress all opposing points of view.<was correct and right! How you cultists fear the truth!
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ChemCaptain
Senior Member
United States
495 posts, Apr 2003
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posted 07-15-2003 04:31 PM
Come on Shatty, the CTC group oppresses any opposing views faster than anyone I know!You need to stop bullshitting your self- Hell, Mech thinks everyone who disagrees with him is a Nazi, I'm sure you feel the same from your words. I'm fine with different points of views.. That doesn't mean we have to accept bs arguements and false logic
[Edited 1 times, lastly by ChemCaptain on 07-15-2003]
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