posted 07-13-2003 10:33 AM            

If not, then what do you hope to gain by demonizing conservatives and the right?

What do you think the effect would be of getting Bush out of power? Don't you realize that if Bush were not there, a liberal Democrat would be...perhaps Kerry, perhaps Hillary? Do you feel America would be better served by a liberal Democrat as president? If not, then why are you using all the propaganda and talking points originating from the Democrat party to demonize the right?

If you want liberals back in power, how do you feel they would do a better job?

posted 07-13-2003 12:38 PM               

I've got my fingers crossed on this one

posted 07-13-2003 01:25 PM            

I'm going to hold to the subject of this thread,. Will you answer the questions, honestly, without cut and paste diversionary tactics?

It is interesting to see how correct I am in my assessment of you guys. I know you better than you know yourselves. My bet is that you won't have the guts or intellectual honesty to answer my questions. Like most leftists, you hate and have tremendous fear of logical arguments because you know that your whole philosophy is not based on logic or truth…and…damn, I haven’t even got to the arguments yet. I’m simply asking what you think…and you won’t even do that. Thanks for helping me illustrate....

posted 07-13-2003 01:47 PM            

damn that's funny !

asking a liberal to think...lol !

posted 07-13-2003 03:34 PM            

You want to categorize everyone into either "left" or "right" that's YOUR gig.

A significant percentage of the population simply doesn't fit into your very limited black-and-white parameters. And these same people are hip to the kind of manipulation that goes with this divide-and-conquer orientation.

posted 07-13-2003 04:34 PM               

How many people are mentally disabled enough to do this.....................
http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/images/blbushbinoculars.htm

posted 07-13-2003 04:38 PM            

yep yep

btw knowthis apparently rightwingers can post pictures on the net and you can't ! I just love when folks claim to be more enlightened than I, yet they don't seem to possess the basic skills of a checkout clerk...

(symbolic picture the dog is the government and the pigs are liberals...course you knew that already)

posted 07-13-2003 04:55 PM            

I never knew these things...

3000 post in 3 years...mech did it in six months....and your point is ?

I been through a bunch of human waste like yourself...you'll have to work harder to aggravate me little one...

posted 07-13-2003 05:53 PM            

if you ever get an "issue" above charater assassination...maybe discussion would be possible...probably not...

pip pip

posted 07-14-2003 03:06 AM            

Notice that no leftist, liberal and/or Bush hater here has yet to answer my questions which are the topic of this thread. They are not trick questions. They are not rhetorical...given that I am asking for an answer. They are simply meant to allow people to get their views on the table to build a foundation for conversation, and lead the leftists here to a logical conclusion by forcing a logical thought process (something that is proving extremely difficult…Seeker is absolutely right about liberals and their inherent inability to think)...But I’m a persistent guy. I have faith (misguided faith perhaps) in you libs. Let's try again. Here are those questions again;

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Do you want liberal Democrats back in power, controlling the presidency, the majority in the House and Senate, and the judicial branch?
If not, then what do you hope to gain by demonizing conservatives and the right?

What do you think the effect would be of getting Bush out of power? Don't you realize that if Bush were not there, a liberal Democrat would be...perhaps Kerry, perhaps Hillary? Do you feel America would be better served by a liberal Democrat as president? If not, then why are you using all the propaganda and talking points originating from the Democrat party to demonize the right?

If you want liberals back in power, how do you feel they would do a better job?

Any leftist here, including Mech and Crazy Larry want to try and answer these questions honestly? Let's have a dialogue….(amazing that I still think a dialogue is possible, isn’t it?)

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posted 07-14-2003 12:20 PM            

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It's a fake? Yeah ok, Rush Limbaugh has been showing the picture AFTER he removed the lens covers. The picture was as real as day, repubes are always in denial. It's so much easier to just pretend that it isn't true. I cannot believe how gullible you are.
Wake up from your stupor, the president is an embarrassment to society.

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Denial is something you obviously know well, as I will point out here. Even if the picture was true, it would be no big deal, nor would it be an indication of a person’s intelligence anyway. Think about it;

A.He was just handed a pair of binoculars by someone who is pointing out something to him. If a person hands you a pair of binoculars and says “look at that” the normal, human assumption is that the lens caps are off…..Duuuhhh. What kind of idiot hands another person a pair of binoculars to look at something with the lens caps on? Only an idiot liberal hypocrite would make such a big deal out of something so ordinary in human nature.

B. I do know that this was, in fact, a doctored photo. It is not denial…it is reality….a concept leftist are extremely challenged with accepting. And like all liberals or leftists, you get it 180 degrees wrong the majority of the time… Clinton was an example of an embarrassment to others of the human race and gender in particular…Bush, on the other hand, is a source of pride. But tell me, in your opinion, why you think the man is an embarrassment. The answer to that should be interesting.

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Higher scores in special ed maybe? Thats comparing apples to oranges though.

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No…Higher grades at Yale and higher scores on SAT tests than Gore. This is a matter of public record. Obviously you are in denial….Gore flunked out of divinity school, which one could almost pass by just showing up and breathing.

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DUUUH-bya Bush is a mental midget, a puppet, you can see the strings attached.

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Like I said, it takes a mental midget such as yourself not to recognize intelligence in others. Stated another way, it takes intelligence to recognize it when you see it.

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You idolize a man(term used loosely) with the mind of a primate, I'm surprised he even walks fully upright and has thumbs. Monkey see, monkey do.....repube mindset.

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The comments above are obviously not intended to be anything but juvenile, hateful rhetoric….a strong indication that KT never has had any intention in engaging in honest, adult, intellectual discussion. This is typical of a leftist or liberal who has no substance or fact or even reason to back up their opinions or commentary. They resort to insult because they have nothing else. Again, these are the qualities that KT demonstrates that he/she possesses but tries to attribute to others….but don’t take my word for it, let’s explore KT’s own words further….

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He regurgitates information, unaware of the meaning of his own words. That is why he rarely makes appearances, he doesn't have anything to say.

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He regurgitates information?…..Oh, let me write this down. I thought you guys were saying he was a liar. Which is it? Does he regurgitate INFORMATION or does he lie? If he regurgitates information, then he is informing. This is not consistent with your next statement in which you irrationally accuse him of having nothing to say. And I think Bush has had a lot to say that liberals don’t seem to like, if you‘ve been watching the news. The man has been making constant appearances….Just recently in Africa. Do you pay attention to the news?

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And god forbid someone should ask him a question that the croney Cheney hasn't already prepared him for with a vague, generic response.

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Let’s get specific…What questions would those be? I suppose, in your twisted mind (or facsimile thereof), Clinton was less vague……(It depends on what the meaning of IS is) or maybe you prefer the clear answers of Gore, the inventor of the internet…and pathological liar. And it takes a fairly stupid person to think that Cheney is writing Bush’s speeches or planning his strategy. Do you know who Karl Rove is? Do you know who appoints Bush’s strategists? Do you know who approves final strategies and press commentary?

You see, you leftist idiots want it both ways, and that’s why you are disingenuous and very dishonest, and really dishonorable, disgusting human beings who are not interested in reality or truth, only the demonization of a good man whose views you disagree with. On the one hand, you want to say Bush lies….and then on the other hand, you want to say Bush just regurgitates everything he is told. A lie takes conscious knowledge, in order to manipulate the truth. This is logically inconsistent. Either Bush understands everything he says……(which he would need to do in order to consciously lie)…or he doesn‘t. On the one hand, you liberals want to blame him for mindlessly repeating questionable CIA approved intelligence regarding Saddam’s attempted purchase of Uranium from Africa…..but on the other hand you want to accuse him of consciously distorting the facts. Which is it?

It takes a person with a fairly severe lack of intelligence or care for detail not to realize their own inconsistency in their own arguments. One way I would define intelligence is having some form of consistent, logical reasoning process. Obviously, as I have pointed out, we can see that there is very little logical reasoning process in your commentary…..nor is it consistent or truth based.

Let’s summarize here;

A. You first assume a possibly faked photo is true, without question, without any investigation……and you accuse Republicans of being gullible. You attribute to others those qualities which you possess (as demonstrated in your very accusations here) such as gullibility and a state of denial to others. This is an old tried and true liberal tactic. It is a quality so consistent among liberals, a tactic so often used, that I’m beginning to think it must be genetic.

B. You make the assumption that a joke photo is an indication of person’s intelligence, and draw irrational implications as to Bush’s ability as a leader, which indicates your lack of intelligence, btw. Once again, you are attributing qualities that you possess, such as stupidity, and irrationality, to others where it does not apply.

C. You accuse Bush of being stupid but ignore the facts that he actually got higher scores than your liberal “idol” , Gore, in school. You ignore the facts that he has literally run circles around the best Democrat strategy to demonize and destroy him. (Hardly, the accomplishment of a person lacking intelligence). He has led several of the most successful and astonishing military victories in human history, with strategic implications that leftists still fail to see or even comprehend, despite repeated attempts to explain it to them. Once again, you are attributing qualities that you possess, such as stupidity, and an inability to think logically to others where it does not apply.

But this final quote sums it up best, I think;

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And hell no I'm not going to carry on about politics with any of you idiots. It's not about politics, it's about the difference between me and you. I don't need to degrade myself by lowering down to your sub-human levels of futile discourse.

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So, let’s get this straight; KT is talking on a thread where the subject is political, with no intention to engage in rational discussion and answer honest questions regarding the subject of the thread? KT feels that by simply identifying his/her political reasoning and bias that this is somehow degrading by lowering to sub-human levels of futile discourse? (What does this say about his/her political bias?)

posted 07-14-2003 01:18 PM            

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Hey Fastwalker, what's your age?

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That's irrelevent and classified information. I could tell you, but then I'd have to have you dipped in a hot vat of bacon grease, and forced to listen to ten years of taped Rush Limbaugh shows over the course of 2 months.....unless, of course, you are a fellow member of the vast right wing conspiracy.