posted 07-16-2003 10:58 PM            

What Happened to Conservatives?

(R) Ron Paul Tx.

July 14, 2003

The so-called conservative movement of the last 20 years, starting with the Reagan revolution of the 1980s, followed by the 1994 Gingrich takeover of the House, and culminating in the early 2000s with Republican control of both Congress and the White House, seems a terrible FAILURE today. Republicans have failed utterly to shrink the size of government; instead it is bigger and costlier than ever before. Federal spending spirals out of control, new Great Society social welfare programs have been created, and the national debt is rising by more than a half-trillion dollars per year. Whatever happened to the conservative vision supposedly sweeping the nation?

One thing is certain: those who worked and voted for less government, the very foot soldiers in the conservative revolution, have been deceived. Today, the ideal of limited government has been abandoned by the GOP, and real conservatives find their views no longer matter.

True limited government conservatives have been co-opted by the rise of the neoconservatives in Washington. The neoconservatives- a name they gave themselves- are largely hardworking, talented people who have worked their way into positions of power in Washington. Their views dominate American domestic and foreign policy today, as their ranks include many of the President’s closest advisors. They have successfully moved the Republican party away from the Goldwater-era platform of frugal government at home and nonintervention abroad, toward a big-government, world empire mentality more reminiscent of Herbert Hoover or Woodrow Wilson. In doing so, they have proven that their ideas are NEITHER NEW NOR CONSERVATIVE.

Modern neoconservatives are not necessarily monolithic in their views, but they generally can be described as follows:

-They agree with Trotsky’s (COMMIE) idea of a permanent revolution;
-They identify strongly with the writings of Leo Strauss;
-They express no opposition to the welfare state, and will expand it to win votes and power;
-They believe in a powerful federal government;
-They believe the ends justify the means in politics- that hardball politics is a moral necessity;
-They believe lying is necessary for the state to survive;
-They believe certain facts should be known only by the political elite, and withheld from the general public;
-They believe in preemptive war and the naked use of military force to achieve any desired ends;
-They openly endorse the idea of an American empire, and hence unapologetically call for imperialism;
-They are very willing to use force to impose American ideals;
-They scoff at the Founding Father’s belief in neutrality in foreign affairs;
-They believe 9/11 resulted from a lack of foreign entanglements, not from too many;
-They are willing to redraw the map of the Middle East by force, while unconditionally supporting Israel and the Likud Party;
-They view civil liberties with suspicion, as unnecessary restrictions on the federal government;
-They despise libertarians, and dismiss any arguments based on constitutional grounds.

posted 07-17-2003 12:32 AM            

They got brainwashed by a NWO media's bias:

Understanding US and Britain's Neo-nazis

What Liberal 'news' media?

When was the last time you read of "Managment Problems"

The conservatively biased 'news' media skew coverage towards the corporate neo-con right...and always have!

"Labor Problems/ Labor Disputes'- never Managment problems/ Managment Disputes.

It's always Management makes "offers" and Labor makes "demands";

Offers: such as lower wages, longer hours, less benefits,
Management stealing Pension Funds (as ENRON proved beyond doubt)

Demands: (historically)
safe working conditions
an end to child labor
the 40 hour work week
overtime pay
health care
retirement/pensions

A Liberal media would have
exposed the greed of management
and championed the plight of overworked underpaid Americans and foreign nationals (imported as cheap labor)

A neo-con Conservatively biased media would do exactly as NBC-CBS-ABC-CNBC-CNN have done...

Take the side of the corporations with editorializing within the 'reporting'
by using such skewed terms as "Labor Disputes" (when UPS execs were trying to get their greedy hands on UPS employees Union controlled pensions.

The Federal government watches unions like hawks, but trusts management to
just
do the right thing, without any oversight.
a la ENRON (who invested pension funds to inflate stocks
so management's stock options could make the thieves richer as the workers lost everything.

It's the American way!

Peaceful demonstrations are falsely reported as riots after Police attack peaceful demonstrators,
some of whom fight back against the police state's unjustified violence.

What happened?
It's gotten to the point that many citizens are so brainwashed that they see only one side of all issues.

Which side do they see?

Why the side the media they loath tells them to look at!

As rightwing media 'reporters' tell him how the 'Liberal' media is lying.
They themselves are that media they bash.

And some people aren't bright enough to see the contradictions:

Star Trek episode:
Kirk:
"Everything I say is a lie."
Norman: "If you're telling the truth, you must be lying..."

Oliver North used this skewed logic successfully during the Iran Contra coverup.
Testified that he'd lied to congress, yet swore he was telling the truth when he testified that he had lied to them before.

'Conservatives' (neo-cons/ not true Conservatives like Goldwater) will believe any lie from their own side!

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That is what's most bewildering.

They know the media is lying,
yet they believe the lies the media tells them.

(FW will soon reply to prove the above comments.)

posted 07-17-2003 09:08 AM            

#2..I don't give a damn what you think I am.

posted 07-17-2003 01:10 PM            

Keep dreaming $#!Tball.