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suckingeggs
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posted 08-06-2003 04:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for suckingeggs   Visit suckingeggs's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
August 2, 2003
Who Forged the Letters that Sucked Us into War?
Israel, Yellowcake and the Media
By JERRY KROTH

Can you name a country in the Middle East suspected of developing nuclear
weapons, refusing to open itself to international inspection, and one that
probably possesses chemical and biological weapons of mass destruction?

Iraq, perhaps, Iran, maybe, but most definitely Israel. Indeed, while its
official spokespersons still deny it, Israel is thought to possess as many as 240
nuclear weapons along with awesome biological weapons.

During Bush's successful ejaculatory tweaking of American war hysteria over
Iraq which aroused 73% of the American electorate to ignore world opinion,
flout the UN, and support going off to war, not a single levelheaded American
journalist seemed at all interested in this obvious oversight. It was as if Iraq's
development of weapons of mass destruction had nothing to do with Israel's
arsenal. Gosh, what an irrelevancy!

The left incriminated that the reason the Bush couldn't stop salivating over
the prospect of invading Iraq was for its oil: ah yes, greedy Republicans,
Texas oil magnates, Halliburton, insider wheeling and dealing. Sounds good, but
was there anyone opining that the real reason we invaded Iraq was to keep
Israel as the sole nuclear power in the Middle East? The discussion never moved in
that direction. And it did not move there probably because the issue was never
put on the table. George Will was too busy quarrying into somber ethical
issues like whether "French" fries and kisses should be rethought, and Dianne
Sawyer couldn't tear her investigative self away from the Dixie Chicks long enough
to even think about it.

Now I know how paranoid 'media conspiracy' sounds---but isn't it curious how
in all the words that flowed off those deeply embedded lips of Ted Koppel, he
never mentioned Israel's nuclear weapons or its biological capabilities in all
the time he was dressed up like a soldier? Isn't that taking
don't-ask-don't-tell to a new level entirely?

Today with Niger's yellowcake and David Kelley's death, the media are all
flummoxed about what Bush knew or didn't and whether Blair used 'sexed up'
intelligence. "Did the Bush or Blair administration lead their countries into war
using faulty intelligence?" That is how the media from CNN to Michael Eisner's
executive producers are trying to reframe and define the issue for us. Hmmm! Is
that really the issue Michael?

Hold on! Hans Blix, even before we went to war, said those Iraqi letters
seeking to buy yellowcake uranium were false. They were more than false, he said;
they were forgeries! Those letters which made it into the State of the Union
message to stir up American testosterone and gather up enough mojo for us to
launch our first Tomahawk. . . they were forgeries!

The tainted letters surfaced in Italy. They used the Iranian word
'hemisphere' instead of the proper Iraqi word "dome," and Blix said the documents were
not written by an Iraqi at all.

Now fantasize for a moment the world learned that it was Iran that was behind
the forged letters. What was their gain? To bring the US war machine right to
their own borders? Not a very interesting theory.

What would it mean if Israel's Mossad forged them? Well, it would show that
Israel falsely dragged Britain and the U.S. into invading its major adversary
and with yellowcake all over its face, relations with that country just might
be in for some serious review.

What if the CIA falsified the documents? Well, if George knew they were
forgeries and presented such mendacity to the American public as the basis for
invading a foreign country, charges of treason and impeachment would be nipping at
his coattails. Similarly if the forgery came from Tony Blair's camp, whilst
beseeching his citizenry to go off to war, another government collapse and
charge of treason would likely be the outcome.

It is not a question of using faulty intelligence, but of using forgeries to
lead a country off to war, no small issue by any means, but the biggest
curiosity of our time is that the source of the forgery is not of interest to any of
the mainstream media. It is not the focus of 60 Minutes or 60 Minutes II.
Barbara Walters is too interested in how tall Senator John Kerry is. Stone
Philips has too many serial killers deal with, and Dan Rather is thinking too much
these days of Laci Peterson. No one is interested!

Now I don't favor the thought that our corporate media giants collectively
conspire to keep things under wraps. I can't help but observe that tonight Ted
Koppel will suit up as master of ceremonies of that pseudo-intellectual circus
he hosts where one guest shouts down his opponent yelling and screaming high
decibel epithets---kind of like a Jerry Springer show for the slightly scho
larly---and whatever tonight's topic, we can be quite sure it will not deal with
America's increasingly long list of taboo subjects:

Does Israel have hydrogen bombs? Did the U.S. ever secretly test Israeli
nuclear weapons on American soil? And, of course, the most recent question to add
to the list:

Who forged the letters that sucked us into this war?

Jerry Kroth, Ph.D.is an Associate Professor of Counseling Psychology at Santa
Clara University. Kroth is the author of one of the most popular recent
stories on the CounterPunch site: Symbol and Synchronicity in the Crash of the
Space Shuttle Columbia
. He can be reached at: anya@sj.znet.com

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http://www.tbrnews.org/Archives/a576.htm

Brigadier General Says Israel is the problem not Iraq Jan 7, 2003
by James J. David a retired Brigadier General


(James J. David is a retired Brigadier General and a graduate of the U.S.
Army's Command and General Staff College, and the National Security Course,
National Defense University, Washington, DC. He served as a Company Commander with
the 101st Airborne Division in the Republic of Vietnam in 1969 and 1970 and
also served nearly 3 years of Army active duty in and around the Middle East
from 1967-1969.)

Question: Which country alone in the Middle East has nuclear weapons?

Answer: Israel.

Question: Which country in the Middle East refuses to sign the nuclear
non-proliferation treaty and bars international inspections?

Answer: Israel.

Question: Which country in the Middle East seized the sovereign territory of
other nations by military force and continues to occupy it in defiance of
United Nations Security Council resolutions?

Answer: Israel.

Question: Which country in the Middle East routinely violates the
international borders of another sovereign state with warplanes and artillery and naval
gunfire?

Answer: Israel.

Question: What American ally in the Middle East has for years sent assassins
into other countries to kill its political enemies (a practice sometimes
called exporting terrorism)?

Answer: Israel.

Question: In which country in the Middle East have high-ranking military
officers admitted publicly that unarmed prisoners of war were executed?

Answer: Israel.

Question: What country in the Middle East refuses to prosecute its soldiers
who have acknowledged executing prisoners of war?

Answer: Israel.

Question: What country in the Middle East created 762,000 refugees and
refuses to allow them to return to their homes, farms and businesses?

Answer: Israel.

Question: What country in the Middle East refuses to pay compensation to
people whose land, bank accounts and businesses it confiscated?

Answer: Israel.

Question: In what country in the Middle East was a high-ranking United
Nations diplomat assassinated?

Answer: Israel.

Question: In what country in the Middle East did the man who ordered the
assassination of a high-ranking U.N. diplomat become prime minister?

Answer: Israel.

Question: What country in the Middle East blew up an American diplomatic
facility in Egypt and attacked a U.S. ship, the USS Liberty, in international
waters, killing 34 and wounding 171 American sailors?

Answer: Israel.

Question: What country in the Middle East employed a spy, Jonathan Pollard,
to steal classified documents and then gave some of them to the Soviet Union?

Answer: Israel.

Question: What country at first denied any official connection to Pollard,
then voted to make him a citizen and has continuously demanded that the American
president grant Pollard a full pardon?

Answer: Israel.

Question: What Middle East country allows American Jewish murderers to flee
to its country to escape punishment in the United States and refuses to
extradite them once in their custody?

Answer: Israel

Question: What Middle East country preaches against hate yet builds a shrine
and a memorial for a murderer who killed 29 Palestinians while they prayed in
their Mosque.

Answer: Israel

Question: What country on Planet Earth has the second most powerful lobby in
the United States, according to a recent Fortune magazine survey of Washington
insiders?

Answer: Israel.

Question: Which country in the Middle East deliberately targeted a U.N.
Refugee Camp in Qana, Lebanon and killed 103 innocent men, women, and especially
children?

Answer: Israel

Question: Which country in the Middle East is in defiance of 69 United
Nations Security Council resolutions and has been protected from 29 more by U.S.
vetoes?

Answer: Israel.

Question: Which country in the Middle East receives more than one-third of
all U.S. aid yet is the 16th richest country in the world?

Answer: Israel

Question: Which country in the Middle East receives U.S. weapons for free and
then sells the technology to the Republic of China even at the objections of
the U.S.?

Answer: Israel

Question: Which country in the Middle East routinely insults the American
people by having its Prime Minister address the United States Congress and
lecturing them like children on why they have no right to reduce foreign aid?

Answer: Israel

Question: Which country in the Middle East had its Prime Minister announce to
his staff not to worry about what the United States says because "We control
America?"

Answer: Israel

Question: What country in the Middle East was cited by Amnesty International
for demolishing more than 4000 innocent Palestinian homes as a means of ethnic
cleansing.

Answer: Israel

Question: Which country in the Middle East has just recently used a weapon of
mass destruction, a one-ton smart bomb, dropping it in the center of a highly
populated area killing 15 civilians including 9 children? style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff"

Answer: Israel

Question: Which country in the Middle East routinely kills young Palestinian
children for no reason other than throwing stones at armored vehicles,
bulldozers, or tanks?

Answer: Israel

Question: Which country in the Middle East signed the Oslo Accords promising
to halt any new Jewish Settlement construction, but instead, has built more
than 270 new settlements since the signing?

Answer: Israel

Q. Which country in the Middle East has assassinated more than 100 political
officials of its opponent in the last 2 years while killing hundreds of
civilians in the process, including dozens of children?

Answer: Israel

Question: Which country in the Middle East regularly violates the Geneva
Convention by imposing collective punishment on entire towns, villages, and camps,
for the acts of a few, and even goes as far as demolishing entire villages
while people are still in their homes?

Answer: Israel


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posted 08-26-2003 01:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ellyn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Israeli Mossad Motto: "By way of deception we shall do war."

Over and over again for many years, just when some progress is about to be made between the Israelis and Palestinians, or some diplomat is due to arrive in the region, a horrible incident takes place in Israel, which allows the Israeli government to renege on the plans and goals which were hoped for by those desiring peace in the region. In many cases, the political position of the Israeli government has been enhanced over that of the Palestinians--as has been the case with this last bombing of the bus in Israel.

When something like this occurs, I always ask the question: Who stands to gain the most by this occurrence? I am also very aware that Ariel Sharon and his Stern and Irgun gangs (presently called the Israeli Likud party) were responsible for blowing up the King David Hotel and killing numerous Jews when they were Israeli "freedom fighters," (not "terrorists") because they thought it would further their goals.

Our media tells us that there is no such thing as Israeli terrorists or Israeli government-sponsored terrorism: only the Palestinians are terrorists, even though three to four times as many Palestinians have been killed as Israelis, and upwards to over 25,000 Palestinians have been injured by the Israeli military over the years, and thousands of Palestinians have been imprisoned for years--many with no charges being made against them, and hundreds of Palestinian homes have been blown up in the name of collective punishment, and acres and acres of Palestinian land, such as their olive groves, has been bull-dozed and destroyed; and in recent times, Palestinian lives being controlled by Israelis to such a degree that they cannot educate their children or shop or live their lives with any sense of freedom at all--a very fertile ground for the creation of suicide bombers.

I recently watched the film "The Quiet American," which takes place in Vietnam in the early 1950s when the French were involved in Vietnam. They brought out how top Vietmanese military officials and the CIA were involved in blowing up Vietnamese communities and blaming these atrocities on the Communists in order to bring the U.S. into the conflict. It reminded me a lot of activities in which the Israeli government and the Mossad have been involved for many years. Victor Ostrovsky discusses much of this in his book, BY WAY OF DECEPTION: THE MAKING OF A MOSSAD CASE OFFICER, and his following book, THE OTHER SIDE OF DECEPTION, A ROGUE AGENT EXPOSES THE MOSSAD'S SECRET AGENDA.


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http://www.abc.net.au/worldtoday/content/2003/s892129.htm

The World Today - Israel severs ties with BBC over 'biased' documentary
ARCHIVE ABOUT EMAIL Eleanor Hall hosts The World Today's lunch hour of current affairs, with background and debate from Australia and the world. Monday to Friday, 12:10pm, ABC Loc ... BBC, over a documentary on the Jewish state's alleged weapons programs. The documentary is called "Israel's Secret Weapon" and in recent days it's been rebroadcast internationally, after an earlier showing in Britain in

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BBC Transcript of "Israel's Secret Weapon" (part 1)
Transcript, BBC World Service, 29 June 2003 http://electronicintifada.net/v2/article1665.shtml

BBC Transcript of "Israel's Secret Weapon" (part 2)
Transcript, BBC World Service, 29 June 2003 http://electronicintifada.net/v2/article1667.shtml

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http://www.rense.com/general40/100.htm

Israel Destroys Entire
Commercial Market In One Day
PENGON/Anti-Apartheid Wall Campaign Press Release
8-22-03


Over 100 Shops And 5 Homes Demolished In Nazlat 'Isa For the Building Of The Wall

OCCUPIED WEST BANK -- Marking the single largest demolition of buildings in years, the entire commercial area of Nazlat 'Isa was today razed to the ground as some 15 bulldozers, accompanied by large numbers of military and border police, entered the community at 5:00 AM and destroyed over 100 shops and 5 homes. The market, which was previously targeted in January of this year with the destruction of 82 or close to one half of its shops, has been the commercial center for the entire region.

The bulldozers began the demolitions early in the morning and continued unabated until the late hours of the night.

The commercial area, just east of the Green Line in the Occupied West Bank, has been leveled for the building of an "isolation barrier" - an extension or offshoot of the Wall - that will entrap the community and the surrounding areas between it and the Wall to ensure complete isolation. Commercial areas along the Green Line have been consistently targeted with the building of the Wall in what assures that communities trapped between the Wall and the Green Line (the Wall in this case is located 2 km inside the West Bank) will have no infrastructure for survival.

Today, Nazlat 'Isa saw countless tragic images of people clearing their shops and hurriedly removing goods and produce to safeguard their investments and livelihoods. Everyone interviewed in the area was unaware of today's arrival of the military and demolitions. The aluminum factory demolished, which was the largest distributor of aluminum for the area and for clientele inside Israel, managed to have the immediate presence of an attorney to postpone the demolition for a few hours in order to remove its raw material prior to the total destruction.

In late January of this year, the demolition of 82 shops of the same commercial area received worldwide media attention - and condemnation - and was called by the foreign press "the biggest West Bank demolition in years." Today's lack of media presence was profoundly noticeable, as most media was dispersed in other areas of the West Bank covering an extra-judicial assassination and aerial and land attacks by the Israeli military in major West Bank cities.

Tens of villages in the area acknowledge that this is a major step by Israel in sealing their fate and making survival on their lands and in their homes impossible.

The Anti-Apartheid Wall Campaign emphatically reiterates that this act is a crime and calls for the worldwide declaration to Stop the Wall!

For more information or for high resolution images of the demolitions and destruction, contact:

PENGON/Anti-Apartheid Wall Campaign +972-67-465350 +972-2-6565890 +972-52-285610

©2000-2003 electronicIntifada.net
http://electronicintifada.net/v2/article1851.shtml

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btw eggs it is "israel"...and they have every right to defend themselves...

the below list is not up to date (july 7th 2003)...but serves as a sobering reminder that if the violence does not stop on the palestinian side soon their people will suffer the consequences of their corrupt leaders actions...

how much shit can israel put up with ?

how many innocents have died ellyn ?

Suicide and Other Bombing Attacks in Israel Since the Declaration of Principles
(September 1993)


Apr 6, 1994 - Eight people were killed in a car-bomb attack on a bus in the center of Afula. Hamas claimed responsibility for the attack.

Apr 13, 1994 - Five people were killed in a suicide bombing attack on a bus in the central bus station of Hadera. Hamas claimed responsibility for the attack.

Oct 19, 1994 - In a suicide bombing attack on the No. 5 bus on Dizengoff Street in Tel-Aviv, 21 Israelis and one Dutch national were killed.

Nov 11, 1994 - Three soldiers were killed at the Netzarim junction in the Gaza Strip when a Palestinian riding a bicycle detonated explosives strapped to his body. Islamic Jihad said it carried out the attack to avenge the car bomb killing of Islamic Jihad leader Hani Abed on Nov 2.

Jan 22, 1995 - Two consecutive bombs exploded at the Beit Lid junction near Netanya, killing 18 soldiers and one civilian. The Islamic Jihad claimed responsibility for the attack.

Apr 9, 1995 - Seven Israelis and one American were killed when a bus was hit by an explosives-laden van near Kfar Darom in the Gaza Strip. The Islamic Jihad claimed responsibility for the attack.

Jul 24, 1995 - Six civilians were killed in a suicide bomb attack on a bus in Ramat Gan.

Aug 21, 1995 - Three Israelis and one American were killed in a suicide bombing of a Jerusalem bus.

Feb 25, 1996 - In a suicide bombing of bus No. 18 near the Central Bus Station in Jerusalem, 26 were killed (17 civilians and 9 soldiers). Hamas claimed responsibility for the attack.

Feb 25, 1996 - One Israeli was killed in an explosion set off by a suicide bomber at a hitchhiking post oustide Ashkelon. Hamas claimed responsibility for the attack.

Mar 3, 1996 - In a suicide bombing of bus No. 18 on Jaffa Road in Jerusalem, 19 were killed (16 civilians and 3 soldiers).

Mar 4, 1996 - Outside Dizengoff Center in Tel-Aviv, a suicide bomber detonated a 20-kilogram nail bomb, killing 13 (12 civilians and one soldier).

Mar 21, 1997 - Three people were killed when a suicide bomber detonated a bomb on the terrace of a Tel Aviv cafe. 48 people were wounded.

Jul 30, 1997 - 16 people were killed and 178 wounded in two consecutive suicide bombings in the Mahane Yehuda market in Jerusalem.

Sep 4, 1997 - Five people were killed and 181 wounded in three suicide bombings on the Ben-Yehuda pedestrian mall in Jerusalem.

Oct 29, 1998 - One Israeli soldier was killed when a terrorist drove an explosives-laden car into an Israeli army jeep escorting a bus with 40 elementary school students from the settlement of Kfar Darom in the Gaza Strip.

Nov 2, 2000 - Ayelet Shahar Levy, 28, and Hanan Levy, 33, were killed in a car bomb explosion near the Mahane Yehuda market in Jerusalem. 10 people were injured. The Islamic Jihad claimed responsibility for the attack.

Nov 20, 2000 - A roadside bomb exploded at 7:30 in the morning alongside a bus carrying children from Kfar Darom to school in Gush Katif. Miriam Amitai, 35, and Gavriel Biton, 34, were killed and 9 others, including 5 children, were injured, 5 of them seriously.

Nov 22, 2000 - Shoshanna Reis, 21, of Hadera, and Meir Bahrame, 35, of Givat Olga, were killed, and 60 wounded when a powerful car bomb was denotated alongside a passing bus on Hadera's main street, when the area was packed with shoppers and people driving home from work.

Dec 22, 2000 - Three soldiers were injured in a suicide bomb attack at the Mehola Junction roadside cafe in the northern Jordan Valley. The terrorist, who detonated a belt of explosives strapped to him, was killed in the blast.

Jan 1, 2001 - A car bomb exploded near a bus stop in the shopping district in the center of Netanya. About 60 people were injured, most lightly. One unidentified person, apparently one of the terrorists involved in the bombing, died of severe burns. Hamas claimed responsibility for the attack.

Feb 8, 2001 - A powerful car bomb exploded at 4:40 PM in the ultra-Orthodox neighborhood of Beit Yisrael in Jerusalem, causing mild injuries to four people.

Feb 14, 2001 - Eight people were killed and 25 injured when a bus driven by a Palestinian terrorist plowed into a group of soldiers and civilians waiting at a bus stop near Holon, south of Tel-Aviv.

Mar 1, 2001 - One person was killed and 9 injured when a terrorist detonated a bomb in a Tel Aviv to Tiberias service taxi at the Mei Ami junction in Wadi Ara.

Mar 4, 2001 - Three people were killed and at least 60 injured in a suicide bombing in downtown Netanya.

Mar 27, 2001 - A car bomb exploded at 7:40 in the morning in the Talpiot industrial/commercial zone in Jerusalem. Seven people were injured, one moderately. The Islamic Jihad has claimed responsibility for the attack.

Mar 27, 2001 - 28 people were injured, two seriously, in a suicide bombing directed against a northbound No. 6 bus at the French Hill junction in Jerusalem. Hamas claimed responsibility for the attack.

Mar 28, 2001 - Two teenagers were killed and four injured, one critically, in a suicide bombing at the Mifgash Hashalom ("peace stop") gas station several hundred meters from an IDF roadblock near the entrance to Kalkilya, east of Kfar Saba. Hamas claimed responsibility for the attack.

Apr 22, 2001 - A terrorist detonated a powerful bomb he was carrying near a group of people waiting at a bus stop on the corner of Weizman and Tchernichovsky streets in Kfar Sava. One person was killed and about 60 injured in the blast, two severely. The terrorist was also killed in the explosion, for which Hamas claimed responsibility.

Apr 23, 2001 - Eight people were lightly hurt in a car bombing in Or Yehuda, a few kilometers north of Ben-Gurion Airport, which senior police officers said could only be described as a "miracle" in an area packed with pre-Independence Day shoppers.

Apr 29, 2001 - A car bomb blew up close to a school bus travelling near the West Bank city of Nablus. There were no injuries in the attack. The body of the suicide bomber was found in the car. Hamas claimed responsibility for the attack.

May 18, 2001 - A Palestinian suicide bomber wearing an explosive vest detonated himself outside the Hasharon Shopping Mall in the seaside city of Netanya. Five civilians were killed and over 100 wounded in the attack. Hamas claimed responsibility for the attack.

May 25, 2001 - 65 people were injured in a car bombing in the Hadera central bus station. The two terrorists were apparently killed in the explosion. The Islamic Jihad claimed responsibility.

May 27, 2001 - A car bomb exploded in the center of Jerusalem shortly after midnight. There were no injuries. The Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine claimed responsibility.
A bomb exploded at 9:00 in the morning near the intersection of the capital's main Jaffa Road and Heshin Street. The bomb included several mortar shells, some of which were propelled hundreds of meters from the site of the explosion. 30 people were injured, most suffering from shock. The Islamic Jihad claimed responsibility.

May 30, 2001 - A car bomb exploded shortly before 16:00 outside a school in Netanya while a number of students were still in the building studying for matriculation exams. Eight people were injured, suffering from shock and hearing impairment. The Islamic Jihad claimed responsibility.

June 1, 2001 - 21 people were killed and 120 wounded when a suicide bomber blew himself up outside a disco near Tel Aviv's Dolphinarium along the seafront promenade just before midnight on Friday, June 1, while standing in a large group of teenagers waiting to enter the disco.

June 22, 2001 - Sgt. Aviv Iszak, 19, of Kfar Saba, and Sgt. Ofir Kit, 19, of Jerusalem, were killed near Dugit in the Gaza Strip as a jeep with yellow Israeli license plates, supposedly stuck in the sand, blew up as they approached. Hamas claimed responsibility for the attack.

July 2, 2001 - Two separate bombs exploded at about 8:20 Monday morning in cars in the Tel-Aviv suburb of Yehud. Six pedestrians were lightly injured. Police sources say the bombs were probably set by terrorists. The Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine, a radical PLO faction, claimed responsibility.

July 9, 2001 - A Palestinian suicide bomber was killed in a car-bombing attack near the Kissufim crossing point in the southern Gaza Strip, causing no other casualties. Disaster was averted as the bomb exploded without hitting any other vehicles. Hamas claimed responsibility for the attack.

July 16, 2001 - Cpl. Hanit Arami, 19, and St.Sgt. Avi Ben Harush, 20, both of Zichron Yaakov, were killed and 11 wounded - 3 seriously - when a bomb exploded in a suicide terrorist attack at a bus stop near the train station in Binyamina, halfway between Netanya and Haifa, at about 19:30 Monday evening. The Islamic Jihad claimed responsibility for the attack.

Aug 8, 2001 - A suicide bomber was killed when he detonated his car bomb, lightly wounding one soldier, at a roadblock near the B'kaot moshav in the northern Jordan Valley shortly after 9:00. One soldier was lightly wounded.

Aug 9, 2001 - 15 people were killed, including 7 children, and about 130 injured in a suicide bombing at the Sbarro pizzeria on the corner of King George Street and Jaffa Road in the center of Jerusalem. Hamas and the Islamic Jihad claimed responsibility for the attack.

Aug 12, 2001 - 21 people were injured in a suicide bombing in the Wall Street Cafe in the center of Kiryat Motzkin at 17:30. The terrorist was killed. The Islamic Jihad claimed responsibility for the attack.

Aug 21, 2001 - A bomb placed under a car exploded at 14:15 near the Russian Compound in downtown Jerusalem; one woman was treated for shock. A second, very large unexploded bomb was discovered inside the car and dismantled.

Sept 4, 2001 - 20 people were injured when a suicide terrorist exploded a powerful charge on Hanevi'im Street near Bikur Holim hospital in central Jerusalem shortly before 8:00 AM. The terrorist, disguised as a Jew in ultra-orthodox clothing, aroused the suspicion of passersby due to the large backpack he was wearing. As two Border Police officers approached the man, he detonated his shrapnel-packed bomb. Both officers were wounded - one critically. The terrorist was killed in the blast. Hamas claimed responsibility.

Sept 9, 2001 - Three people were killed and some 90 injured, most lightly, in a suicide bombing near the Nahariya train station in northern Israel. The terrorist, killed in the blast, waited nearby until the train arrived from Tel-Aviv and people were exiting the station, and then exploded the bomb he was carrying. Hamas claimed responsibility for the attack.

Sept 9, 2001 - A car bomb exploded at the Beit Lid junction near Netanya, injuring 17 people. One person killed in the explosion is believed to be the terrorist bomber.

Oct 1, 2001 - A large car bomb exploded in the Talpiot neighborhood of Jerusalem. Several people were lightly injured.

Oct 7, 2001 - Yair Mordechai, 43, of Kibbutz Sheluhot was killed when a Palestinian suicide terrorist affiliated with the Islamic Jihad detonated a large bomb strapped to his body near the entrance of the kibbutz in the Beit She'an Valley.

Nov 26, 2001 - A Palestinian suicide bomber killed himself and lightly wounded two Border Policemen at the Erez crossing point in the Gaza Strip. The bomber joined workers waiting to be cleared for entry into Israel. Hamas claimed responsibility for the attack.

Nov 29, 2001 - Three people were killed and nine others were wounded in a suicide bombing on an Egged 823 bus en route from Nazereth to Tel Aviv near the city of Hadera. The Islamic Jihad and Fatah claimed responsibility for the attack.

Dec 1, 2001 - 11 people were killed and about 180 injured when explosive devices were detonated by two suicide bombers close to 11:30 P.M. Saturday night on Ben Yehuda Street, the pedestrian mall in the center of Jerusalem. A car bomb exploded nearby 20 minutes later. Hamas claimed responsibility for the attack.

Dec 2, 2001 - 15 people were killed and 40 injured, several critically, in a suicide bombing on an Egged bus No. 16 in Haifa shortly after 12:00. Hamas claimed responsibility for the attack.

Dec 5, 2001 - A suicide bomber exploded a powerful bomb shortly after 7:30 AM on King David Street in Jerusalem. A number of people waiting at a nearby bus stop were lightly injured. The terrorist was killed in the blast. Police are investigating whether the bomb, packed with nails and shrapnel, went off prematurely. The Islamic Jihad claimed responsibility.

Dec 9, 2001 - A suicide bomber exploded a powerful bomb near a bus stop at the Checkpost Junction in Haifa shortly after 7:30 AM. About 30 people were injured, most lightly and suffering from shock. A second explosive device was found and detonated nearby. The terrorist was killed.

Dec 12, 2001 - Four people traveling in two cars were lightly wounded in an attack at 18:00 PM by two suicide bombers near the Gaza Strip community of Neve Dekalim.

Jan 25, 2002 - 25 people were wounded when a Palestinian suicide bomber detonated explosives outside a cafe on a pedestrian mall near Tel Aviv's old central bus station at 11:15 AM on Friday.

Jan 27, 2002 - Pinhas Tokatli, 81, of Jerusalem was killed and over 150 people were wounded, four seriously, in a suicide bombing on Jaffa Road, in the center of Jerusalem, shortly before 12:30. The female terrorist, identified as a Fatah member, was armed with more than 10 kilos of explosives.

Feb 16, 2002 - Two teenagers were killed and about 30 people were wounded, six seriously, when a suicide bomber blew himself up on Saturday night at a pizzeria in the shopping mall in Karnei Shomron in Samaria. A third person subsequently died of his injuries. The Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine claimed responsibility for the attack.

Feb 18, 2002 - Policeman Ahmed Mazarib, 32, of the Bedouin village Beit Zarzir in the Galilee, was killed by a suicide bomber whom he had stopped for questioning on the Ma'ale Adumim-Jerusalem road. The terrorist succeeded in detonating the bomb in his car. The Fatah al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades claimed responsibility for the attack.

Feb 27, 2002 - A Palestinian suicide bomber blew herself up at the Maccabim roadblock on the Jerusalem-Modi'in highway Wednesday night, injuring three policemen.

Mar 2, 2002 - Ten people were killed and over 50 were injured, 4 critically, in a suicide bombing at 19:15 on Saturday evening near a yeshiva in the ultra-Orthodox Beit Yisrael neighborhood in the center of Jerusalem where people had gathered for a bar-mitzva celebration. The terrorist detonated the bomb next to a group of women waiting with their baby carriages for their husbands to leave the nearby synagogue. The Fatah Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigade took responsibility for the attack.

Mar 5, 2002 - Maharatu Tagana, 85, of Upper Nazareth was killed and a large number of people injured, most lightly, when a suicide bomber exploded in an Egged No. 823 bus as it entered the Afula central bus station. The Islamic Jihad claimed responsibility for the attack.

Mar 7, 2002 - A suicide bomber blew himself up in the lobby of a hotel in the commericial center on the outskirts of Ariel in Samaria. 15 people were injured, one seriously. The PFLP claimed responsibility for the attack.

Mar 9, 2002 - 11 people were killed and 54 injured, 10 of them seriously, when a suicide bomber exploded at 22:30 PM Saturday night in the crowded Moment cafe at the corner of Aza and Ben-Maimon streets in the Rehavia neighborhood in the center of Jerusalem. Hamas claimed responsibility for the attack.

Mar 17, 2002 - A suicide bomber exploded himself near an Egged bus no. 22 at the French Hill junction in northern Jerusalem. 25 people were lightly injured.

Mar 20, 2002 - Seven people, four of them soldiers, were killed and about 30 wounded, several seriously, in a suicide bombing of an Egged bus No. 823 traveling from Tel Aviv to Nazareth at the Musmus junction on Highway 65 (Wadi Ara) near Afula. The Islamic Jihad claimed responsibility for the attack.

Mar 21, 2002 - Three people were killed and 86 injured, 3 of them seriously, in a suicide bombing on King George Street in the center of Jerusalem. The terrorist detonated the bomb, packed with metal spikes and nails, in the center of a crowd of shoppers. The Fatah al-Aqsa Brigades claimed responsibility for the attack.

Mar 27, 2002 - 30 people were killed and 140 injured - 20 seriously - in a suicide bombing in the Park Hotel in the coastal city of Netanya, in the midst of the Passover holiday seder with 250 guests. Hamas claimed responsibility for the attack. The terrorist was a member of Hamas from Tulkarem, on the list of wanted terrorists Israel had requested be arrested.

Mar 29, 2002 - Two people were killed and 28 injured, two seriously when a female suicide bomber blew herself up in the Kiryat Yovel supermarket in Jerusalem. The Fatah Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades claimed responsibility for the attack.

Mar 30, 2002 - One person was killed and about 30 people were injured in a suicide bombing in a cafe on the corner of Allenby and Bialik streets in Tel-Aviv. The Fatah Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades claimed responsibility for the attack.

Mar 31, 2002 - 15 people were killed and over 40 injured in a suicide bombing in Haifa, in the Matza restaurant of the gas station near the Grand Canyon shopping mall. Hamas claimed responsibility for the attack.

Mar 31, 2002 - An MDA paramedic was very seriously injured along with three other people at 17:00 Sunday afternoon in a suicide bombing at the emergency medical center in Efrat, in the Gush Etzion bloc south of Jerusalem.

Apr 1, 2002 - A police officer was killed in Jerusalem when a Palestinian suicide bomber heading toward the city center blew himself up in his car after being stopped at a roadblock. The Fatah al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades claimed responsibility for the attack.

Apr 10, 2002 - Eight people were killed and 22 injured in a suicide bombing on Egged bus #960, en route from Haifa to Jerusalem, which exploded near Kibbutz Yagur, east of Haifa. Hamas claimed responsibility for the attack.

Apr 12, 2002 - Six people were killed and 104 wounded when a woman suicide bomber detonated a powerful charge at a bus stop on Jaffa road at the entrance to Jerusalem's Mahane Yehuda open-air market. The Al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades claimed responsibility for the attack.

May 7, 2002 - 16 people were killed and 55 wounded in a crowded game club in Rishon Lezion, southeast of Tel-Aviv, when a suicide bomber detonated a powerful charge in the 3rd floor club, causing part of the building to collapse. Hamas claimed responsibility for the attack.

May 19, 2002 - Three people were killed and 59 injured - 10 seriously - when a suicide bomber, disguised as a soldier, blew himself up in the market in Netanya. Both Hamas and the PFLP took responsibility for the attack.

May 20, 2002 - A suicide bomber, apparently bound for Afula, killed himself after Border Policemen approached him for questioning at a bus stop. There were no other injuries.

May 22, 2002 - Two people were killed and about 40 wounded when a suicide bomber detonated himself in the Rothschild Street downtown pedestrian mall of Rishon Lezion.

May 23, 2002 - A bomb planted by terrorists exploded underneath a fuel truck at the Pi Glilot fuel depot north of Tel Aviv. The truck burst into flames, but the blaze was quickly contained.

May 24, 2002 - A security guard opened fire on a terrorist attempting to ram a car bomb into the Studio 49 Disco in Tel Aviv. The terrorist was killed and five Israelis slightly injured when the bomb exploded prematurely.

May 27, 2002 - A grandmother and her infant granddaughter were killed and 37 people were injured, some seriously, when a suicide bomber detonated himself near an ice cream parlor outside a shopping mall in Petah Tikva. The Fatah Al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades claimed responsibility for the attack.

June 5, 2002 - 17 people were killed and 38 injured when a car packed with a large quantity of explosives struck Egged bus No. 830 traveling from Tel-Aviv to Tiberias at the Megiddo junction near Afula. The bus, which burst into flames, was completely destroyed. The terrorist was killed in the blast. The Islamic Jihad claimed responsibility for the attack.

June 11, 2002 - A 14-year-old girl was killed and 15 others were wounded when a Palestinian suicide bomber set off a relatively small pipe bomb at a shwarma restaurant in Herzliya.

June 18, 2002 - 19 people were killed and 74 injured - six seriously - in a suicide bombing at the Patt junction in Egged bus no. 32A traveling from Gilo to the center of Jerusalem. The bus, which was completely destroyed, was carrying many students on their way to school. Hamas claimed responsibility for the attack.

June 19, 2002 - Seven people were killed and 50 injured - three of them in critical condition - when a suicide bomber blew himself up at a crowded bus stop and hitchhiking post at the French Hill intersection in northern Jerusalem shortly after 7:00 P.M., as people were returning home from work. The Fatah Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades claimed responsibility for the attack.

July 16, 2002 - Nine people were killed and 20 injured in a terrorist attack on Dan bus no. 189 traveling from Bnei Brak to Emmanuel in Samaria. An explosive charge was detonated next to the bullet-resistant bus. The terrorists waited in ambush, reportedly wearing IDF uniforms, and opened fire on the bus. While four terror organizations claimed responsibility for the attack, it was apparently carried out by the same Hamas cell which carried out the attack in Emmanuel on Dec 12, 2001.

July 17, 2002 - Five people were killed - two Israeli and three foreign workers - and about 40 were injured, four seriously, in a double suicide bombing on Neve Shaanan Street near the old central bus station in Tel Aviv. The Islamic Jihad claimed responsibility for the attack.

July 30, 2002 - Five people suffered light to moderate injuries in a suicide bombing at a felafel stand on Hanevi'im Street in the center of Jerusalem. The bomber, who was killed, apparently exploded prematurely.

July 31, 2002 - Nine people were killed and 85 wounded, 14 of them seriously, when a bomb exploded in the Frank Sinatra student center cafeteria on the Hebrew University's Mt. Scopus campus. The explosive device was planted inside the cafeteria, which was gutted by the explosion. Hamas claimed responsibility for the attack.

Aug 4, 2002 - Nine people were killed and some 50 wounded in a suicide bombing of Egged bus No. 361 traveling from Haifa to Safed at the Meron junction in northern Israel. Hamas claimed responsibility for the attack.

Aug 5, 2002 - A bomb exploded in a car at the Umm al-Fahm junction in northern Israel, killing the terrorist and wounding the driver, an Arab Israeli resident of Nazareth.

Sept 18, 2002 - Police Sgt. Moshe Hezkiyah, 21, of Elyachin was killed and three people were wounded in a suicide bombing at a bus stop at the Umm al Fahm junction. The terrorist, who was apparently planning to detonate the bomb after boarding a bus, set the charge off early when approached by the police for questioning. The Islamic Jihad claimed responsibility for the attack.

Sept 19, 2002 - Six people were killed and about 70 wounded when a terrorist detonated a bomb in Dan bus No. 4 on Allenby Street, opposite the Great Synagogue in Tel-Aviv. Hamas claimed responsbility for the attack.

Oct 10, 2002 - Sa'ada Aharon, 71, of Ramat Gan was killed and about 30 people were wounded when a suicide bomber blew himself up while trying to board Dan bus No. 87 across from Bar-Ilan University on the Geha highway (Route 4). Hamas claimed responsibility for the attack.

Oct 21, 2002 - 14 people were killed and some 50 wounded when a car bomb containing about 100 kilograms of explosives was detonated next to a No. 841 Egged bus from Kiryat Shmona to Tel-Aviv, while traveling along Wadi Ara on Route No. 65 toward Hadera. The bus had pulled over at a bus stop when the suicide bomber, from Jenin, driving a jeep, approached from behind and exploded. The Islamic Jihad claimed responsibility for the attack.

Oct 27, 2002 - Two IDF officers and a non-commissioned officer were killed and about 20 people were wounded in a suicide bombing at the Sonol gas station at the entrance to Ariel in Samaria. The victims were killed while trying to prevent the terrorist from detonating the bomb. The terrorist was identified as a member of Hamas.

Nov 4, 2002 - Two people - a security guard and a teenage boy, both recent immigrants from Argentina - were killed and about 70 were wounded in a suicide bombing at a shopping mall in Kfar Sava. The Islamic Jihad claimed responsibility for the attack.

Nov 21, 2002 - Eleven people were killed and some 50 wounded by a suicide bomber on a No. 20 Egged bus on Mexico Street in the Kiryat Menahem neighborhood of Jerusalem. The bus was filled with passengers, including schoolchildren, traveling toward the center of the city during rush hour. Hamas claimed responsibility for the attack.

Jan 5, 2003 - Twenty-two people were killed and about 120 wounded in a double suicide bombing near the old Central Bus Station in Tel-Aviv. The attack was apparently carried out by two members of the Fatah Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades, with the help of the Islamic Jihad.

Mar 5, 2003 - Seventeen people were killed and 53 wounded in a suicide bombing of an Egged bus #37 on Moriah Blvd. in the Carmel section of Haifa, en route to Haifa University. Hamas claimed responsibility for the attack.

Mar 30, 2003 - Over 40 people were wounded in a suicide bombing on the pedestrian mall at the entrance to the London Cafe in the center of Netanya. The bomber was killed. The Islamic Jihad claimed responsibility for the attack.

Apr 24, 2003 - Alexander Kostyuk, a 23-year-old security guard from Bat Yam, was killed and 13 were wounded, two seriously, in a suicide bombing outside the train station in Kfar Sava. Groups related to the Fatah al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades and the PFLP clamied joint responsibility for the attack.

Apr 30, 2003 - Three people were killed and about 60 peoople were wounded when a suicide bomber blew himself up at a beachfront pub "Mike's Place" in Tel Aviv. The Fatah Tanzim and Hamas claimed responsibility for the attack, carried out as a joint operation. Investigation revealed that the two British Muslims involved in the suicide bombing were dispatched to perpetrate the attack by the Hamas military command in the Gaza Strip.

May 17, 2003 - Gadi Levy and his wife Dina, aged 31 and 37, of Kiryat Arba were killed by a suicide bomber in Hebron. Hamas claimed responsibility for the attack.

May 18, 2003 - Seven people were killed and 20 wounded in a suicide bombing on Egged bus no. 6 near French Hill in Jerusalem. Hamas claimed responsibility for the attack.
A second suicide bomber detonated his bomb when intercepted by police in northern Jerusalem. The terrorist was killed; no one else was injured.

May 19, 2003 - Three IDF soldiers were lightly injured when a Palestinian on a bicycle detonated explosives next to a military jeep near Kfar Darom in the southern Gaza Strip. The bomber was killed. Hamas claimed responsibility for the attack.

May 19, 2003 - Three people were killed and about 70 wounded in a suicide bombing at the entrance to the Amakim Mall in Afula. The Islamic Jihad and the Fatah al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades both claimed responsibility for the attack.

May 22, 2003 - Nine Israelis were injured when a roadside bomb was detonated next to a bus near Netzarim in the Gaza Strip.

June 11, 2003 - Seventeen people were killed and over 100 wounded in a suicide bombing on Egged bus #14A outside the Clal building on Jaffa Road in the center of Jerusalem. Hamas claimed responsibility for the attack.

June 19, 2003 - Avner Mordechai, 58, of Moshav Sde Trumot, was killed when a suicide bomber blew up in his grocery on Sde Trumot, south of Beit Shean. The suicide bomber was killed. The Islamic Jihad claimed responsibility for the attack.

July 7, 2003 - Mazal Afari, 65, of Moshav Kfar Yavetz was killed in her home on Monday evening and three of her grandchildren lightly wounded in a terrorist suicide bombing. The remains of the bomber were also found in the wreckage of the house. The Islamic Jihad claimed responsibility for the attack.

http://www.mfa.gov.il/mfa/go.asp?MFAH0i5d0

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To be fair lets look at the other side of the coin: http://www.jerusalemites.org/statistic.htm

Palestinian Human and Material Losses Inflicted by Israel during the Intifada (Uprising)
September 28, 2000 - June8, 2003

Palestinians killed by Israeli security forces and Jewish settlers
Total number of Palestinians killed: 3213
Palestinian activists and political figures assassinated by Israeli 'death squads': 125
Bystanders killed during Israeli assassination operations: 60
Men: 22

Women: 10

Children: 28
Gender Distribution of Deaths:
Total number of Palestinian males killed: 1959
Total Number of Palestinian females killed: 188


Age distribution of Palestinians killed:
Number of Palestinian children up to 17 years old: 571
Number of Palestinian adults between 18 and 65 years old: 1491
Number of Palestinian elderly between 66 and above: 27


Number of Palestinians injured by Israeli security forces and settlers:
Live ammunition: 5,787
Rubber-coated steel bullets: 5,636
Tear Gas: 5,368
Miscellaneous: 5,394
Total: 22,183


The total disabilities (both partial and permanent) in the West Bank and Gaza Strip:

55213


Israeli assaults on Palestinian schools, school children, and teachers:
Number of Palestinian students killed by Israeli forces: 688
Number of Palestinian students injured by Israeli forces: 2690
Number of Palestinian schools shelled and invaded by Israeli forces: 197
Number of Palestinian schools transferred into military base: 3
Number of Palestinian schools transferred into detention centers: 25
Number of students detained: 366
Number of teachers detained: 75


Number of children suffering from malnutrition:
Children aged 6-59 months suffering from chronic malnutrition: 252,400 45%
Children aged 6-59 months suffering from mild chronic malnutrition: 201,000 36%
Children aged 6-59 months suffering from acute malnutrition: 180300 32.5%
Children aged 6-59 months suffering from mild acute malnutrition: 150000 27%


Deaths and Births at Israeli Checkpoints:
Total Deaths: 56
Men: 23
Women: 19
Children: 14
Stillbirths: 9
Total Births: 43


Note: Households of reported psychological difficulties in one or more family members is estimated to 90% in addition to various cases of reported psychological traumas.


Israeli assaults on journalists:
Palestinians journalists killed by Israeli forces: 8
Palestinian and foreign journalists injured by Israeli forces: 254
Foreign journalists killed by Israeli forces: 2


Israeli assaults on medical staff and facilities:
Total Personnel Killed: 24
Total Personnel Injured: 192
Total attacks on ambulances to-date: 216
Total ambulances damaged: 107
Denial of Access to ambulances logged: 614
Number of ambulances damaged beyond repair: 28


Israeli assaults on Palestinian infrastructure:
Partial Damage to Residential Buildings: 36,380
Substantial Damage to Residential Buildings: 2,639
Damage to Public Building: 118
Damage to Governmental Buildings and Security Installations: 411


Palestinian houses demolished during Israeli incursions:
West Bank: 9750
Gaza Strip: 2349


Palestinian houses demolished following Israeli municipal and/or military decision:
West Bank: 269
Gaza Strip: 748
East Jerusalem: 150
Houses sealed in east Jerusalem: 18


Impact of Israeli-imposed multiple siege on Palestinian economic life:
Unemployment rate in the West Bank: 63.3%
Unemployment rate in the Gaza Strip: 50%
Palestinians living below poverty line in the West Bank: 55%
Palestinians living below poverty line in the Gaza Strip: 70%
Overall losses to Palestinian economy: $8.269 billion
Overall losses in the Agricultural sector: $800 million
Overall losses in the industrial sector: $25 million
Numbers of trees uprooted: 720031
Land confiscated in east Jerusalem: 596 acres
Land confiscated in West Bank: 39756.5 acres


Note: Pressure is exerted on the Palestinian economy in excess of 80 million dollars yearly in aid to families in crisis.

Sources:

The Palestinian Red Crescent Society
The Ministry of Health
The Palestinian Central Bureau of Statistics (PCBS)
The World Bank and the International Management Group
Office of the United Nations Special Coordinator (UNSCO)
United Nations Children's Fund (UNICEF)
The Ministry of Education
The Palestinian Journalist Syndicate
Defense for International Children - Palestine Section
Ministry of Agriculture
PECDAR
Arij
UN Economic and Social Committee for Western Asia




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nice try dervid...let's see a verification of that list somewhere else...

these sources are way past suspect...biased more like it...

The Palestinian Red Crescent Society
The Ministry of Health
The Palestinian Central Bureau of Statistics (PCBS)
The World Bank and the International Management Group
Office of the United Nations Special Coordinator (UNSCO)
United Nations Children's Fund (UNICEF)
The Ministry of Education
The Palestinian Journalist Syndicate
Defense for International Children - Palestine Section
Ministry of Agriculture
PECDAR
Arij
UN Economic and Social Committee for Western Asia

C'MON !

oh I will say this, atleast I didn't see any reports of israeli's in your C/P, strapping bombs to themselves and blowing up people while they eat or shop...

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The name is David

Nothig is suspect about the sources, except in your closed mind.

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dervid, you are blind...and not even nancy and planet x can rectify it...

show us something from say...reuters...you know people who don't have a vested interest in inflating the body count...

ellyn said the jenin deal was 500 or a 1000 dead...and it was more like 50...

get it ?

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The Myth of Tiny, Little Israel: Zionist Tentacles Everywhere

Sam Hamod, Ph.D.

06/26/03: (todaysaltnews.com) No decent human being in this world can see Sharon and his zionist minions killing women, children and elderly, destroying their homes, schools and hospitals and not feel a moral repugnance. There are many Jews as well as others who abhor this, in fact, these Jews are among the most heroic in fighting this brutality that is being used against the Palestinians and the espionage Mossad is perpetrating all over the world. This group includes such people as Nurit Peled (the winner of the Sakharov Prize for Peace in Israel), Anthony Lewis, Professor Naom Chomsky, Rabbi Michael Lerner and many other courageous and moral people. So let it be known that we must get past the myth of "tiny, little Israel" to see the truth about Israel and her supporters whose tentacles have spread throughout the world.

This article pertains to those who are zionists who support the brutal tactics of Sharon and his predecessors in Palestine and in the U.S.; it is this group that has infiltrated American politics, media and military policy ( and the policies of other nations as well) through secret agents, those who carry dual citizenship but are more loyal to Israel than to the US or other nations, through the Mossad agents that have been hired for security reasons in various nations who then branch out to recruit others who then become agents for Israel, and through the academics whose political connections and media connections that make them overnight “authorities” so as to be an asset to Israel (Daniel Pipes, Frank Gaffney, Richard Perle, Bernard Lewis to name but a few).

Too few people in the world realize that this “little nation” of Israel has its tentacles throughout the world, in terms of its political action committees, appointees and elected officials in governments and the hiring out of its active or retired Mossad agents. I write this article to awaken people to the reality of what is actually going on, so that they may wipe away the myths spread by the Israeli propaganda machine that has mainline access to American media (newspapers, TV, radio and film) and enormous influence on the politics and economies of many nations, among them, America, Britain, Venezuela, Germany and others.

Here are but a few examples:

1. Many airport checkers at the Frankfurt, Germany, airports are members of Mossad; this has been attested to by many Arab and Arab American travelers who have been harassed by them (many of the guards spoke Hebrew to one another during checking).

2. Many new hires in the U.S. Department of Homeland Security, the CIA and FBI, this according to people working in those agencies and even reported briefly in some newspapers are former, or on loan, Mossad agents;

3. Iraqis report Hebrew speaking troops with the American troops in Baghdad, even American papers have reported that Israel is “aiding America” in its search for WMD; the methods being used by American troops in Iraq are exactly like the Israeli methods used in Palestine—shooting heavy weaponry at a house, then breaking down the door and bursting in, even without evidence, and arresting young men and fathers in the house and taking them away to unknown locations, or simply destroying homes with tanks, mortars or missiles simply because of a “tip” that “terrorists” or “pro-Saddam” people are there

;4. It is common knowledge that Mossad trained the apartheid South African regimes police and military that terrorized Blacks and Browns in that country for years, Israel also sold the weaponry and technology to South Africa that was banned by the UN and the USA that helped hold the African natives of the region and nation in check; experts on Africa say there are others operating in Africa at this time in Nigeria and Kenya.

What is interesting also is how much Israel and its agents have infiltrated American intelligence and politics. It is a known fact that Wolfowitz, Fleischer, Perle, Lantos and some others have dual citizenships between Israel and America. Some of their behavior helps reinforce this loyalty to Israel; at times, Lantos asks for more funds for Israel than for the poor in America or even in California (his district and state). It is well known by every literate person in the world that Wolfowitz and Perle were two of the prime movers for an attack on Iraq and continue their pressuring for attacks on Iran, Syria and Lebanon (which are at the top of Israel’s hit list). AIPAC, the American Israel Political Action Committee uses millions of dollars of its funds to get billions in aid for Israel through donations and political pressure on American presidents, congress people and senators.

The pro-zionist groups also have powerful influence in the media through ownership of the NY Times (the Sulzberger family), Washington Post, others who owned ABC Goldenson)CBS(Paley) and NBC (Sarnoff)—all of whom were loyal zionists and their donations to AIPAC is legendary. Fred Friendly, the first president of NPR and PBS was a known supporter of Zionism when he was at CBS and carried this over to NPR, where a majority of the newscasters and analysts are pro-Israel (Scott Simon, Dan Shorr, Linda Gradstein, just go down the list and see how many Arabs, Muslims, real Latinos /not those who are part Latino and part Jewish/, Linda Wertheimer, Seigel—the list goes on and on). Thus, at every turn in America, from the overt media and money usage to the mythology that is perpetrated by our movies and TV shows that Arabs and Muslims are terrorists and Jews and Israelis are always victims, and that all Jewish men are warm and generous and never hard faced businessmen, mafia (the only bad mafia guys are Italian, even on the Sopranos, the myth is perpetrated because Tony and the boys always go talk with the Jewish godfather friend of Tony’s father—this is pure hogwash to any true Mafiosi or anyone who has worked in the “Business” as it is really called, the Italians only talked with the Italians, and especially the Sicilianos, they were in endless, brutal competition with the Jewish criminal gangs headed by Lansky, Siegel and others—but when Bugsy or Lansky are shown in a TV or movie fiction, they are always good guys who went wrong or old men just trying to make their way in the world).

Even the Pollard case, a spy in our military intelligence unit of the U.S. Navy, was downplayed; the constant request by Israel for his release has also been hushed up.

In the Washington, DC, during the Pollard matter, the media often showed his crying wife who kept saying, “He’s not a spy,” even after they had hard evidence on him; the newspapers covered it but soon put it on the back pages if at all. Even some rabbis came forth asking that he be sent to Israel for trial! Imagine, sending a spy back home to be tried for spying for his home country; amazing.

Of course, the Israelis are only out to defend themselves, that is why they bulldoze homes in Palestine (no, not in Israel itself), continue confiscating land from Palestinian farmers (who must be terrorists, otherwise why would they use the disguise of being a shepherd in a field of sheep or a farmer with olive trees—obvious cover-up disguises!), confiscate Palestinian funds in Israeli banks, ask America to freeze bank accounts of Palestinian humane charities, never shoot children or women, and if they do, it is only by accident or with rubber tipped metal bullets (which also kill and maim, like metal bullets, but not as rapidly), and the missiles they send in to hospitals, schools and ambulances are because the children must have done a terrorist act secretly while they were in school—I make these absurd statements because they are no more absurd than some of the press releases and public pronouncements the Israelis make after killing people and excusing it (never apologizing), but always “launching investigations” that never seen to be finished and never come up with any Israeli guilt under any circumstances.

Of course, those Israeli soldiers who get sick of this behavior and these lies are branded as “traitors” and “liars” and shunned, put in prison, and God knows what other punishments they undergo (this from Felicia Langer when I spoke with her some years ago who, as a Holocaust survivor, is one of Israelis top defense lawyers who often defends Palestinians and Jews for peace or military men who refuse to continue to participate in this myths and cruelty of the Israeli politics of brutality, and others who have come to America and spoken of these cruel and inhuman acts, Nurit Peled (the winner of the Sakharov Prize for Peace in Israel), her brother Miko and others who participate in the peace dialogues in San Diego and other cities in America—people who genuinely want peace and what is best for their own Jewish brethren and for the Palestinians (their blood cousins, see Blood Brothers by Chacour).

We need not mention Sharon’s assault on the Palestinians in Lebanon, and his assisting the Phalangist group that carried out the horrible and unforgiveable massacres at Sabra and Shatilla Refugee Camps, while Israeli military men stood by hearing the cries and seeing bloodied and children running from the camps asking them for help, shining their flood lights for the Phalangist Gemayal families and their allies while they did the killings; nor the constant destructions of villages, homes and human beings under Sharon’s government, nor the lies of Bill Clinton and Barak when they kept saying “we’re giving the Palestinians 80% of what they want”—when in fact, Barak, with Clinton’s knowledge was building settlements as fast as they could be built on seized and occupied Palestinian territory.

The facts go and on, one has but to look at UN reports on these matters of Israeli abuses to see that it would take me dozens, nay hundreds of pages to cite all the abuses of even the last dozen years—not to mention the previous and ongoing atrocities being committed in the name of “security”—very much like Hitler needing more and more land for German’s “security”.

Of course, the more you expand, the more other land you need to keep security in the newly taken land that was allegedly for our “security”—an ultimately expanding, never receding state. All the time, American presidents, congress and media look the other way; the American people know little of the truth of this because the truth comes out only at the UN or in such limited outlets as the National Geographic (which has the very best article on Israeli settlements and how they have destroyed any sense of a Palestinian “west bank” and Gaza and a contiguous Palestinian state (see Andrew Cockburn in the October 2002 issue of National Geographic for excellent maps, commentary and factual materials on this theft of land, resources and culture).

Finally, there are the WMDs and atomic weapons. America, since the 50s, has allowed Israeli scientists into Oak Ridge and Los Alamos; they have had carte blanche access.

Israel at this time has a huge stock of atomic weapons, thanks to our assistance. Israel also has major supplies of anthrax and other poison weapons, again, thanks to the assistance of the U.S. Government who at one time feared Arab attacks on Israel. These are the reasons that Israel will not allow atomic inspectors into Israel and will not sign the vaunted American pushed, Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty that America wants everyone else to sign, and uses pressure to achieve this, but never on Israel. As to the poison weapons, neither America nor Israel will sign this accord banning poison weapons because they have so many in their security vaults. Thus, to many experts in the world, the U.S. attack on Iraq for WMD and poison weapons, was very much a bald-faced farce, without merit, when two of the biggest abusers of atomic proliferation and poison weapons were the ones calling for the war, America and Israel (and of course, followed by the poodle himself, Tony Blair, who has his own weapons secrets that have not yet seen the light of day).

It is time the myths of “poor Israel” be laid to rest. It is time for Americans to wake up and look clearly and honestly at one of the prime movers of terror in the world, Israel.

It is time that American citizens be told by their government and by their media the truth about why so many Arabs and Muslims throughout the world are now becoming, not just anti-Bush, but anti-American, because of Israel’s cruelty toward their fellow Arab and Muslims, the Palestinians, and the brutal unnecessary take-over of Iraq (which was number one on the Israeli agenda and thus the influence of key congress people and appointees such as Wolfowitz, Perle, Feith and others to help achieve Israel’s goals through that way—not to mention that Israel is now going to get cheap Iraqi oil, courtesy of America). Unless America comes clean about Israel, I can speculate with some accuracy, that the war between Arabs and Muslims and America will never come to an end until this problem of Palestine/Israel, and in addition now, prompted by Israel and the pro-Israeli influences in America, the Iraq/America-British occupation, is settled justly—all of us will suffer from terrorism and the fear of terrorism—physically, emotionally and financially ( the financial costs are beyond speculation, just see what it has done to our airlines, our manufacturing, our tourism—every sector of our economy and the economies of other nations—all because we refuse, in America especially, to face up and to deal with the Israel/Palestine problem in a just way—because of the long reach of the Israeli tentacles, I would say that even American presidents and congress people are afraid to speak openly or to act strongly against Israel because they may fear either exposure that would ruin their career (as happened to Nixon when he suddenly put pressure on Israel to desist in its settlements and threatened to cut off funds by executive order, and to Carter when he lost the support of the entire Democratic Party and a lot of funds in his re-election campaign because he was trying to force Begin to abide by the Carter/Begin/Sadat agreements of Camp David), be tarred and feathered as was done to Pat Buchannan because he refused to shut up about Israeli abuses of American funds and weapons and their killing of Palestinians, to the point that even Robert Novak, an internationally respected journalist, has recently been attacked as a “self-hating Jew” because he condemned Sharon’s behavior an the settlements and breaking of peace negotiation deals. Others politicians up to presidents, according to FBI agents I spoke with in the 80s while I was Director of the Islamic Center in Washington, DC, were afraid of assassination by Mossad or their related agents within even the American security apparatus. Some may scoff at this because they’ve never been inside this big game, but having seen it at work close up, one has to see it to believe it.

But newsmen who have worked in South Africa and other parts of the world, especially the Middle East know the verity of what I speak. Israel is not this “poor little nation, just wanting to survive,” but is a small nation, with a huge big brother who protects it because many from Israel and its sympathizers have a knife to the jugular of its American big brother, and when anyone in America decides to let the truth be known, their career in politics, show business, economic, or academic affairs is short-lived except in very few exceptional cases—and these tentacles, as I said earlier, reach out throughout the world, supported by massive funds, discreet placements for influence and media power beyond compare (Rupert Murdoch at this time controls all satellite transmissions to the world’s media save one transmission line; if the FCC rulings are not reversed and he is allowed to buy this last line of satellite transmission, he will own them all—and Murdoch is a long-time Zionist of the first order; one has but to watch his Faux News or read his newspapers to understand how committed he is to Israel and to his anti- Arab, anti-Muslim positions, aside from attacking any politician anywhere in the world who has, or should dare, say a thing against “tiny Israel.”

Finally, even in the religious arena, the Zionists have been hard at work. Their major new alliance is with the ultra-rightist, Evangelical Christian movement that is praying for Armageddon and the final war that will bring about the return of Christ. In order for this to take place, Israel must triumph over its adversaries; to this end, the Evangelical movement has sent many people to Israel to prepare for this soon-coming day, GW Bush has enlisted his support as has Billy Graham, Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell and this has translated into bonds between this new alliance and the Republican Party and especially support for any and all of GW Bush’s actions. Of course, since Sharon is the head of the Israel heading for Armageddon, Bush allows him carte blanche in his killing of Palestinians and refuses to see Sharon’s terrorism, according to Bush, only Hamas and such are “terrorists.” Yes, the world is aghast at this twisting of the Christian Gospel, but few of the actual Christian Church scholars from established seminaries or universities are allowed to speak on television or radio in America, and few are published in major newspapers—rather, the ignorant and crazy right wing has control of these media—so you get Falwell, Graham and son, Robertson and others putting forth their nonsense on a nightly, weekly and monthly basis for the consumption of the gullible American public.

It has gone so far in the religious arena that some of these right-wingers have called Islam a “religion of evil,” have branded Muhammad, the prophet of Islam, as a pedophile based on “evidence” they say (but the evidence is from one of their own wacko right-wingers or a zonist “scholar”). Many of the Zionists and ultra-right evangelicals have tried to keep Muslim scholars and speakers out of interfaith forums and out of university speaking engagements. This type of apostasy is allowed to go on in the name of a false brand of Christianity and Judaism. Thus, it has gone from politics to the politics of religion, a base type of behaviour that is immoral and certainly is an insult to any God they allegedly believe in. I sometimes wonder if any of these groups have any God but the almighty God of power, just another extension of the Golden Calf that Moses, Jesus and Muhammad railed against.

There you have it, this “tiny, little, poor nation of Israel, just struggling to survive.” Let us now get rid of this myth; let us face the reality. This Israel is not the Israel Moses would have wanted, nor Jesus, nor the God these religions profess to believe in. For this Israel is a powerhouse of intrigue, lies, brutality and cunning with only destruction of others in mind—with lessons the Ashkenazim Jews learned from Hitler—so that even to this day, the Falasha (Ethiopian Jews), the Sephardic (the true Mediterranean Jews) are treated like second and third class citizens in their own land (they have lived there for thousands of years, the Ashkenazim of Europe, descendents of the Khazars, converts from Slavic tribes to Judaism, have only come to the Middle East in the 20th century), and of course, the Palestinians (Philistines in Arabic and Hebrew) who have lived there for several thousand years are being brutalized so that Sharon and his minions may push them out of this false Israel, aided by their ignorant American “Christian” allies who hope that when Armageddon comes, all the Jews will convert to Christianity.

Fat chance—just more mythology—but we’ll save that for another day.


Sam Hamod is an expert on world affairs, especially the Arab and Muslim worlds. He writes often for www.CounterPunch.com and www.todaysaltnews.com ; he is a former advisor to the U.S. State Department and served as editor of Third World News in Wash, DC. He may be reached at shamod@cox.net.


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Facts scare you. The sources stand as do the numbers.

BTW have you read this thread: http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/cgi-bin/Ultimate.cgi?action=agree

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well if all else fails and you can't produce a quality arguement...just cut and paste your way out of it...eh ellyn ?

really hate those jews don't cha...

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The topic is the ZIONIST GOVERNMENT OF ISRAEL. Many, many Jews are not Zionists.

The Hidden History of Zionism
By Ralph Schoenman
http://www.marxists.de/middleast/schoenman/

[The author requires permission to repost, so I am just posting the URL.]


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well excuuuuuse me ellyn...I thought this was a discussion board...not a cut and paste board...

no one reads your hate filled stuff anyway...maybe I shouldn't either...

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The topic is Zionism AND MONEY, the some $3 trillion dollars that U.S. businesses and U.S. taxpayers have lost to Israel since its inception. (See the June 2003 Issue Special Report, pages 20-23, in the Washington Report on Middle East Affairs: The Costs to American Taxpayers of the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict: $3 Trillion.)

We the people have a right to know where our money is going, and we don't have to like our Israeli bought and paid for U.S. politicians.

Here is an article by a Jew who does not consider himself a Zionist:
http://www.rense.com/general37/10qs.htm

A Rabbi's Ten Questions
To The Zionists
By Rabbi Michael Dov Weissmandl ZT"L
Dean of Nitra Yeshiva
5-9-3

IS IT TRUE that in 1941 and again in 1942, the German Gestapo offered all European Jews transit to Spain, if they would relinquish all their property in Germany and Occupied France; on condition that: a) none of the deportees travel from Spain to Palestine; and b) all the deportees be transported from Spain to the USA or British colonies, and there to remain; with entry visas to be arranged by the Jews living there; and c) $1000.00 ransom for each family to be furnished by the Agency, payable upon the arrival of the family at the Spanish border at the rate of 1000 families daily.

IS IT TRUE that the Zionist leaders in Switzerland and Turkey received this offer with the clear understanding that the exclusion of Palestine as a destination for the deportees was based on an agreement between the Gestapo and the Mufti.

IS IT TRUE that the answer of the Zionist leaders was negative, with the following comments: a) ONLY Palestine would be considered as a destination for the deportees. b) The European Jews must accede to suffering and death greater in measure than the other nations, in order that the victorious allies agree to a "Jewish State" at the end of the war. c) No ransom will be paid

IS IT TRUE that this response to the Gestapo's offer was made with the full knowledge that the alternative to this offer was the gas chamber.

IS IT TRUE that in 1944, at the time of the Hungarian deportations, a similar offer was made, whereby all Hungarian Jewry could be saved.

IS IT TRUE that the same Zionist hierarchy again refused this offer (after the gas chambers had already taken a toll of millions).

IS IT TRUE that during the height of the killings in the war, 270 Members of the British Parliament proposed to evacuate 500,000 Jews from Europe, and resettle them in British colonies, as a part of diplomatic negotiations with Germany.

IS IT TRUE that this offer was rejected by the Zionist leaders with the observation "Only to Palestine!"

IS IT TRUE that the British government granted visas to 300 rabbis and their families to the Colony of Mauritius, with passage for the evacuees through Turkey. The "Jewish Agency" leaders sabotaged this plan with the observation that the plan was disloyal to Palestine, and the 300 rabbis and their families should be gassed.

IS IT TRUE that during the course of the negotiations mentioned above, Chaim Weitzman, the first "Jewish statesman" stated: "The most valuable part of the Jewish nation is already in Palestine, and those Jews living outside Palestine are not too important". Weitzman's cohort, Greenbaum, amplified this statement with the observation "One cow in Palestine is worth more than all the Jews in Europe".

There are additional similar questions to be asked of these atheist degenerates known as "Jewish statesmen", but for the time being let them respond to the ten questions.

These Zionist "statesmen" with their great foresight, sought to bring an end two two-thousand years of Divinely ordained Jewish subservience and political tractability. With their offensive militancy, they fanned the fires of anti-Semitism in Europe, and succeeded in forging a bond of Jew-hatred between Nazi-Germany and the surrounding countries.

These are the "statesmen" who organized the irresponsible boycott against Germany in 1933. This boycott hurt Germany like a fly attacking an elephant - but it brought calamity upon the Jews of Europe. At a time when America and England were at peace with the mad-dog Hitler, the Zionist "statesmen" forsook the only plausible method of political amenability; and with their boycott incensed the leader of Germany to a frenzy. And then, after the bitterest episode in Jewish history, these Zionist "statesmen" lured the broken refugees in the DP camps to remain in hunger and deprivation, and to refuse relocation to any place but Palestine; only for the purpose of building their State.

The Zionist "statesmen" have incited and continue to incite an embittered Jewish youth to futile wars against world powers like England, and against masses of hundreds of millions of Arabs.

AND THESE SAME ZIONIST "STATESMEN" HEEDLESSLY PUSH THE WORLD TO THE BRINK OF ANOTHER TOTAL WAR - REVOLVING ENTIRELY AROUND THE HOLY LAND.

What may befall the Jewish inhabitants of Palestine, of the Arab crescent, Europe, or the USA; is of no concern to these Zionist leaders. The rising anti-Semitism in the Western World is the product of their "statesmanship".

Under the guise of "love of Israel", the Zionist "statesmen" seduced many Jews to replace devotion to the Torah and its Sages with devotion to the scoundrel who founded Zionism. It is of no little significance that Herzl originally sought conversion of the Jews as a solution to the problems of the Diaspora. When he realized that this was not acceptable to the Jewish masses, he contrived Zionism as a satisfactory alternative!

A look into history reveals that this very same type of "statesmen" opposed the call of Jeremiah the prophet to yield to the minions of Nebuchadnezzar at the destruction of the first Temple. Five centuries later, Rabbi Yochonon Ben Zakai appealed to the people to surrender to Titus the Roman to avoid bloodshed. The "statesmen" rejected this appeal, and the second Temple was destroyed by the Romans. --- And now for the past fifty years, the Zionist "statesmen" rebuff the leadership of our Sages; and continue in their policy of fomenting anti-Semitism. When will they stop?? Must every Jew in America also suffer?? - Even the Nazi monsters had more sense, and gave up their war before all Germany was destroyed. The Zionist "statesmen" ridicule the sacred oath which the Creator placed upon the Jews in the Diaspora. Our Torah, in Tractate Ksubos, folio 111, (Jeremiah 29 : 7,8,9)specifies that the Creator, blessed be He, swore the Jews not to occupy the Holy Land by force, even if it appears that they have the force IT IS COMMON KNOWLEDGE THAT ALL THE SAGES AND SAINTS IN EUROPE AT THE TIME OF HITLER'S RISE DECLARED THAT HE WAS A MESSENGER OF DIVINE WRATH, SENT TO CHASTEN THE JEWS BECAUSE OF THE BITTER APOSTASY OF ZIONISM AGAINST THE BELIEF IN THE EVENTUAL MESSIANIC REDEMPTION.

Yidden - merciful sons of merciful fathers - how much longer must holy Jewish blood continue to be shed??

The only solution is: The Jewish people must reject, outright, a "Jewish State".

The Jewish people should accept the US compromise.

We must depose the atheist-Zionist "statesmen" from their role as Jewish leaders, and return to the faithful leadership of our sages.

We beseech the Nations to open all doors to immigration - not only the doors of Palestine.

Peaceful, non-Zionist religious personalities in Palestine, (particularly from the native population) and their counterparts in the Diaspora, should engage in responsible, face-to face negotiations on behalf of the Jewish people, with the British and the Arabs; with an aim of amicable settlement of the Palestine issue.


Every Jew is obliged to pray to the Blessed creator, for in Him lies all our strength. Let us bear in mind that our prayers be forthright. One should not entreat the Creator to provide a banquet on Yom Kippur, and one can not perform a ritual ablution with a dead bug in his hand. Similarly, we should avoid the untenable position of the robber who prays for Divine help in carrying out his crime. We should pray that Zionism and its fruits vanish from the Earth, and that we be redeemed by the Messiah with dispatch.

A prisoner is released only when he has served his time, or if he is pardoned by the President for good behavior. If he attempts escape and is apprehended, his term is lengthened, besides the beating he receives when he is caught.

Faithful Jews- for over three and one-half thousand years, in all parts of the world, through all trials, our grandfathers and grandmothers marched through seas of blood and tears in order to keep the Faith of the Torah unswervingly. If we have compassion for ourselves, for our women and children, and for the Jewish people, we will maintain our golden legacy today. We have been sentenced to exile by the King of Kings because of our sins. The eternal blessed be He, has decreed that we accept the exile with humble gratitude until the time comes, or until we merit His pardon through repentance if we seek to end the exile with force, G-d will catch us, as our sages have forewarned, and our sentence becomes longer and more difficult.

Many times in the past have segments of our people been defrauded by false messiahs - but none of the false messiahs has been as fallacious and delusory as the lie of Zionism. With our historical experience as our guide, no retribution has been or will be greater than the retribution for giving credence to Zionism. If we wish our exile-sentence commuted, we must appeal through repentance; and through total physical and spiritual observance of the Sabbath, laws of family purity, and study of Torah.

Let it be clearly understood that never in Jewish history (even in the time of Jeroboam or Achav) have such hostile atheists stood at the helm of the Jewish people as today.

How can we plead to the Almighty for mercy while we tolerate these vile, "wicked" leaders as spokesmen! Beloved brothers - let us cleanse our ranks and cleanse our midst; let us entreat the Almighty through prayer, repentance, and fulfillment of mitzvos that He alone redeem us, immediately.




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one more thing sweetie...just keep that cut and paste hate speech out of my threads here K?