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theseeker
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posted 09-04-2003 09:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for theseeker   Visit theseeker's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
greenwashing...hmmm...

thing is if everybody voted, politicians would not be able to play the green game, the race game, socialized healthcare game, special interest game,big corp game, class warfare and all that...

they would have to talk to all of us...speak everyone's language to a degree...and get something done besides pandering....

time for some sleep the floor is yours

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HMMMMMM....YES Arnold Must be a "Conservative" if he posed for Robert Mapplethorpe.

Hmmmm.
http://www.drudgereport.com/arnold.htm


CAMPAIGN CHASES EROTIC MAPPLETHORPE NUDE PHOTOS OF SCHWARZENEGGER

**World Exclusive**

As the final days of the historic California recall election near, another historic development has unfolded behind the scenes. Campaign operatives are scrambling to contain full nude erotic photographs taken by controversialist Robert Mapplethorpe -- full nude photographs of Arnold Schwarzenegger!

The shocking nudes of Republican Schwarzenegger have been kept under lock at the Estate of Robert Mapplethorpe in New York, the DRUDGE REPORT has learned.

Mapplethorpe, whose infamous self-portrait with a bullwhip inserted in his CENSORED as well as many photographs of CENSORED and men engaging in CENSORED acts, considered Schwarzenegger one of his favorite subjects, sources close to the late artist tell DRUDGE.

Voters have never seen an elected official in such detail.

Developing...

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McClintock pressed to quit race: Neo-con elite rally behind Bohemian Grove Arnie

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A61194-2003Sep24?language=printer


Prominent California Republicans are sharply increasing the pressure on state Sen. Tom McClintock to drop out of the gubernatorial recall election, clearing the field for Arnold Schwarzenegger after a poll showed the actor's performance in Wednesday night's debate was well-received.



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posted 09-27-2003 05:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for swamp gas   Visit swamp gas's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't understand why Davis just doesn't resign, then Bustamante takes over, and no recall.

Simple solution.

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Anyway you slice it...the elite win.

The little people lose.

In fact..I expect the next GOV to continue the same policy of giving in to BIG ENERGY as its policy that got California into its mess in the first place.

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Full Disclosure on Full Disclosure
By RICHARD BLOW

Published: September 27, 2003


Last week Arnold Schwarzenegger proclaimed his desire for greater openness in politics. "We need to throw open the doors and windows of government," he said. At the same time, however, Mr. Schwarzenegger has forced his campaign staff to sign strict confidentiality agreements. Under threat of termination, staff members must agree not to disclose information about "Arnold Schwarzenegger and his family, friends, associates and employees." The policy, first described in The Los Angeles Times, stipulates that Mr. Schwarzenegger can obtain an injunction against anyone trying to break it and a fine of $50,000 per violation.

A campaign aide later promised that if elected, Mr. Schwarzenegger would abandon the policy. In the meantime, his use of confidentiality agreements shows how, as celebrity candidates are becoming more common in politics, so too are the dubious mechanisms of celebrity image control.

Confidentiality agreements were once primarily used to protect commercial secrets. More recently, celebrities have adopted these contracts to protect themselves against checkbook journalism and embittered assistants. This isn't such a big deal. But increasingly, confidentiality agreements ban their signers from revealing information that furthers more meritorious public debate. The Catholic Church, for example, used them to silence victims of sexual abuse by priests, possibly allowing that crime to continue longer than it otherwise might have.

These agreements aren't made merely out of a concern for privacy. Confidentiality agreements have become a tool used by the rich and powerful against people who can't afford to turn down a job, as a way to stifle public discussion of embarrassing issues, and as a means of ensuring that a whistle-blower can't throw a wrench into the image-making machinery of a public figure.

They're also something I have firsthand experience with. After the death of John F. Kennedy Jr., I decided to write a book about him and his magazine, where I had been executive editor. Some of the staff members, including me, had signed confidentiality agreements. But could that prohibit me from writing about a man who was no longer alive?

It very possibly could have. When a well-known First Amendment lawyer told one magazine that the document was enforceable, my publisher hastily backed out of an agreement to publish the book. Fearing a legal morass, no other house would touch it.

Stunned, I paid a series of short visits to $500-an-hour lawyers I couldn't possibly afford. No one had ever litigated a case asking whether a confidentiality agreement survived the death of a celebrity journalist. For a sum in the mid-five figures, these lawyers would write a brief arguing my position — but they could guarantee nothing.

That wasn't very promising. So I abandoned the legal route and spent a year writing without a contract, falling deeply into debt. When the manuscript was done, I managed to find a publisher certain that no one would sue over my laudatory book. But in a way, I was lucky: if the project had been less commercially viable, it would have been killed before a word was written.

However one regards the import of a memoir about John F. Kennedy Jr., the implications of my experience should be disturbing. What if Lyndon Johnson had required his staff to sign confidentiality agreements — and after his death, Lady Bird chose to enforce them? Or if Senator Hillary Clinton ran for president and compelled the silence of her staff in perpetuity? These are not far-fetched possibilities. (Mrs. Clinton, for instance, required the ghostwriters of her autobiography to sign such documents.) How much valuable information would be lost to history? And how much more easily could political candidates project an image of themselves that covered up a less-flattering reality?

Arnold Schwarzenegger is running for governor of a state with 34 million people and the world's fifth-largest economy. Whether he is qualified is for the state's voters to decide. But they won't be able to judge his fitness for the job if he uses legal intimidation to suppress information about himself.

Confidentiality agreements allow Mr. Schwarzenegger to enter the public arena with very little of the risk that every other noncelebrity politician must live with: that the public will learn unfortunate truths about him. If a candidate isn't willing to take that chance, perhaps he shouldn't be running in the first place.

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MEDIA GOING EASY ON SCHWARTZENEGGER......WERE THEY THREATENED?????????


TABLOIDS STARRY-EYED FOR SCHWARZENEGGER
By Dion Nissenbaum
Mercury News Sacramento Bureau

SACRAMENTO - Arnold Schwarzenegger's decision to run for governor was expected to unleash the kind of screaming tabloid headlines that have dogged high-profile politicians from Bill Clinton to Gary Hart.

But supermarket checkout lines have been virtually Arnold-free. Until now.

America's leading tabloid publisher, which last year reached a lucrative business deal with one of Schwarzenegger's earliest business partners, has filled checkout stands not with salacious tales of alleged womanizing -- but with a glowing tribute to the Republican candidate and Hollywood star.

American Media, which publishes the National Enquirer and Star tabloids, has produced a 120-page glossy magazine called ``Arnold, the American Dream.'' The $4.95 magazine is crammed with flattering photographs and auspiciously hit the streets as Schwarzenegger heads into the final lap of his campaign for governor in the Oct. 7 recall election.

The company -- which never identifies itself in the ad-free magazine -- has spread a half-million copies around newsstands and supermarkets across California and the rest of the nation.

While the publication comes across as a slick advertisement for Schwarzenegger's campaign, political-reform experts said it doesn't qualify as an independent expenditure supporting the actor because it's for sale.

``This may be a first of its kind in the country,'' said Robert M. Stern, head of the Center for Governmental Studies in Los Angeles. ``I can't think of a candidate that has been so popular that they were actually selling something like this.''

Last year, American Media reached a lucrative deal with Schwarzenegger business partner Joe Weider to buy his muscle-and-fitness publishing empire -- which includes Muscle and Fitness, Shape and Men's Fitness magazines -- for $350 million. Weider, one of the actor's mentors, brought Schwarzenegger to America from Austria in the late '60s and helped make the aspiring star a bodybuilding icon. Schwarzenegger still writes an ``Ask Arnold'' column for Muscle and Fitness, and Weider is supporting his longtime friend's campaign.

Last month, Weider told the New York Daily News that American Media owner David Pecker assured him last winter that the tabloids were going to ``lay off'' Schwarzenegger and not dig up any dirt -- a conversation Pecker denied. Neither man returned calls Thursday for comment.

American Media spokesman Richard Valvo said the company, based in Boca Raton, Fla., produced the magazine not to help the candidate but to boost its profits.

``We're out to sell books and make money,'' he said. ``We have no other agenda with Arnold that I know of.''

Valvo said he didn't know why the magazine contained no identification of American Media as the publisher and said it was rushed into production because ``Arnold is hot.''

Many people expected U.S. tabloids to dig up unflattering stories about Schwarzenegger's alleged affairs the same way they introduced America to Clinton lover Gennifer Flowers and Gary Hart paramour Donna Rice.

Over the years, American Media's papers have splashed unflattering stories on Schwarzenegger across their covers. Two years ago, the Enquirer ran a sensational story about the actor's alleged seven-year affair with an actress.

But since the actor has entered the race, Schwarzenegger has been virtually absent from the pages of American Media's top-selling tabloids. The Enquirer and Star have run no negative stories on the actor or even reprinted their scandalous allegations about Schwarzenegger's affairs and mistreatment of women in the entertainment industry.

Instead, one American Media tabloid, the Weekly World News, this week ran an ``exclusive'' about a politically savvy space alien throwing his otherworldly support behind Schwarzenegger. Under the screaming headline ``Alien backs Arnold for governor!'' the extraterrestrial not only lauds the actor, but vows to help amend the U.S. Constitution so the Austrian-born candidate can someday run for president.

Valvo said the fact that the tabloids had produced no scandal stories had nothing to do with the company's links to Weider or Schwarzenegger, and everything to do with what sells.

``What's on our covers is hot stories of the week,'' he said. ``Him on a political campaign is not a hot story.''

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Many Heads Could Roll if Schwarzenegger Wins

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A22842-2003Sep30?language=printer


Reuters
Tuesday, September 30, 2003; 2:44 PM

By Michael Kahn

SAN FRANCISCO (Reuters) - Arnold Schwarzenegger's promise to clean house if he wins California's recall election for governor next week has many nervous state appointees worried their jobs could soon be terminated.

While uncertainty is a trademark of any job in politics, California's Oct. 7 recall election could lead to the unusually quick removal of Gov. Gray Davis and many of his estimated 3,000 appointees less than one year after the Democrat won a second term last November.

It is a daunting prospect in an uneven economy -- a core reason for the electoral drive to remove Davis -- for employees who recently bought homes or moved to the state capital, Sacramento, with a job promise of at least another four years.

"When Schwarzenegger says he wants to clean house, it makes people think," said one appointee who declined to give her name. "Some people are very nervous."

Employees with jobs on the line include more than 100 employees in the governor's office, Cabinet members, department heads and staff at places like the Department of Finance and the Office of Emergency Services. There are about 200,000 workers in state government.

Davis is facing a Republican-led recall vote over his handling of the state's budget crisis and is unpopular partly because of his cool personal style.

Recent polls show a majority of Californians want to oust Davis and replace him with Republican "Terminator" star Schwarzenegger who has vowed to shake up Sacramento.

"If it is a change of administration from Republican to Democrat or Democrat to Republican, the appointees are generally replaced," said appointee Cliff Allenby, the director of the state's Department of Developmental Services. "If you planned to be here and you moved here and it is over in a year, it could be very difficult."

Allenby, who has survived six administrations dating back to Democratic Gov. Pat Brown in 1963, added every governor had a different take on who should stay or go. Republican Gov. George Deukmejian, for example, installed mostly his own people when he took over, no matter the political affiliation, Allenby said.

'ODD SITUATION'

Another appointee who has outlasted a number of administrations said a key to success was staying above the political fray and doing a good job. This time even that may not be enough.

"This is an odd situation," said the appointee, who declined to be identified for fear of jeopardizing potential employment in a new administration. "At the end of the term, you plan for it, but this is different because it is very, very uncertain."

One person sure to lose out in a new administration is Davis spokesman Steve Maviglio, who noted appointees such as officials negotiating gaming compacts with American Indian tribes, and the state's Homeland Security director could also soon be out of work.

The former three-term state lawmaker from New Hampshire predicts that a changeover that could occur within days would be "chaotic," but he realizes the fickle nature of life in the political arena.

"In politics you never have job security," he said.

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Who writes Arnold's script if he wins?


SCHEER: It's Who You Know
By Robert Scheer, AlterNet
September 30, 2003

http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=16864

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Schwarzenegger Apologizes to Women


By Adam Tanner


SAN DIEGO, Calif. (Reuters) - Arnold Schwarzenegger, facing potentially damaging new allegations about sexually harassing women, issued an extraordinary apology on Thursday as he set off on the last phase of his campaign to become California governor.

The superstar actor, who has been dogged throughout the recall campaign over allegations about sexist attitudes toward women, said that although many of the stories were politically motivated, "where there is smoke there is fire."

"Yes, I have behaved badly some times, yes it is true that I was on rowdy movie sets ... and I have done things I thought were playful that now I recognize that I have offended people," Schwarzenegger told a rally in San Diego to kick off a four-day bus tour of the state.

"I want to say to them that I am deeply sorry about that, and I apologize because that is not what I was trying to do. When I am governor I will prove to women that I will be a champion for women. I hope you will give me the chance to prove this."

Schwarzenegger, who is leading opinion polls as the man to replace Democratic Gov. Gray Davis), was reacting to a front-page Los Angeles Times story on Thursday in which six women gave detailed accounts of being groped or harassed by the actor over the last three decades.

His press aides had earlier called the story politically motivated and insisted he did not engage in improper behavior.

Peter Ragone, a spokesman for Gov. Davis in the campaign, said neither Davis or any one in the anti-recall movement had anything to do with the Times story.

The actor's apology was clearly aimed at defusing the issue and concentrating the last few days before the Oct. 7 election on what he planned to do in his first days in office.

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ARNIE THE GROPER.......


I GUESS IT'S THE "CONSERVATIVE" THING TO DO.



Arnie 'groped' TV girl
By James Langton in New York, Evening Standard
2 October 2003

A British TV presenter today describes how she was groped by Arnold Schwarzenegger.


In a devasting interview that could sink the Hollywood actor's bid to become the next governor of California, LWT presenter Anna Richardson claims he ran his hand over her breast in a suite at the Dorchester Hotel.

Richardson, who presents a film programme, is one of six women identified in a major investigation by an American newspaper into the actor's alleged sexual misconduct towards women.


She tells the Los Angeles Times that Schwarzeneggger, who faces the polls in just five days, first asked her "If your breasts are real."

The encounter came in December 2000 when Richardson was interviewing the star on The Big Screen about his new film, The Sixth Day.

In an interview with the LA Times, she says that in early encounters the actor had been "a perfect gentleman." "This time was quite different," she says. "He was already kind of hyped up. He kept looking at my breasts, kept asking if I worked out.

"I went to shake his hand and he grabbed me onto his knee and he said, 'Before you go, I want to know if your breasts are real'."

Richardson, who was 29 at the time, said she looked around the room for help, but no one came to her assistance. "At that point, he circled my left nipple with his finger and he said, 'Yes they are real'," she concludes.

Schwarzenegger's campaign team insists that it was Richardson who provocatively approached the star, cupping her right breast and saying, "What do you think of these?"

In other interviews, three of the women describe their shock when the actor-turned-politican grabbed their breasts. Another claimed Schwarzenegger reached under her skirt and grabbed her buttocks.

One woman described an attempt by the star to take off her swimming costume in an hotel lift, while the sixth said he had pulled her onto his lap during filming of Terminator 2 and, the newspaper reports, "asked whether a certain sexual act had ever been performed on her".

The incidents are said to have started in the 1970s, with the latest in 2000.

The revelations will be seen by Schwarzenegger's team as a "dirty tricks" campaign. They believe Democrats are increasingly desperate as opinion polls show the Republican star pulling ahead in the opinion polls before next Tuesday's election.

The actor's campaign spokesman, Sean Walsh, said Democrats "are using this to hurt Arnold Schwarzenegger's campaign." But he did not deny the allegations, saying only that the Terminator star would not be commenting.

Four of the women insisted on anonymity before speaking out, with one saying: "Did he rape me? No. Did he humiliate me? You bet he did."

In the earliest incident, the ex-wife of bodybuilder Laine Stockton says Schwarzenegger came up behind her and put his hand under her T-shirt, cradling her breast.

Another woman, a waitress and beach volleyball player, says he promised her "a lot of fun in half an hour" before grabbing her.

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SEX, LIES AND A COMPLICIT MEDIA.


Women demanding Arnolds "Total Recall."


Once upon a time, Hollywood was the most influential force in shaping people’s attitudes about hot-button issues. Think Gentleman’s Agreement (religion), The Man With the Golden Arm (drugs), The Defiant Ones (race), Bob & Carol & Ted & Alice (sex). Politics came a distant second. Now, in the Schwarzenegger candidacy, there’s a confluence of both cultural catalysts. Just one problem: The Running Man and the media are walking away from this historic moment. Whether Schwarzenegger is made to publicly account for his past behavior may turn California’s recall election into a national test that decides once and for all if messy private lives are off-limits as campaign issues.

It’s not shocking that sex would surface in this post-Clinton gubernatorial recall election — especially given the movie star’s penchant for baring his butt and simulating coitus for the camera. After all, we remain fixated on everything in the entertainment industry that’s most sensational or scandalous because it’s the unifying prism through which we view the world, from Britney tongue-kissing Madonna, to Denzel’s and Halle’s Best Actor Oscars, to Robert Downey Jr.’s addiction saga.

But what is surprising right now is the continuing way that the media coverage remains muffled about each new explosive Arnold revelation. Not just the political bomb that he boasted about a gangbang and drug taking in a 1977 Oui magazine interview. It’s also the orgy he described in a 1981 Penthouse interview, the groping and fondling ascribed to him by a 2001 Premiere magazine interview, his Nazi father’s real wartime activities unearthed by the Los Angeles Times last month, the broken campaign promises he made in recent weeks, and then, last weekend’s report of alleged racist statements.

All of this smacks of celebrity worship or semicollusion with Schwarzenegger’s Republican campaign (demonstrating just how monolithic Big Media’s POV really is despite the FCC’s recent claims to the contrary). It’s also a case of squeamishness on the part of men (who don’t see a gangbang as any big deal whereas for women it’s another minefield in the Mars/Venus battle of the sexes). Certainly it’s not stupidity deserving a pass (especially since the same forces snuffing out Arnold’s 25-year-old outrageous past are fanning the flames of Cruz Bustamante’s long-ago collegiate affiliation with MEChA).

What’s going on here is easy to explain to anyone familiar with Hollywood: The Schwarzenegger campaign is the replica of the worst kind of movie junket, replete with the same media manipulation, controlled access and make-believe message. No wonder the only debate Arnold wants to join is the one that submits all questions in advance. That’s a comfortable setting for an actor accustomed to memorizing lines.

On Fox News Sunday, Schwarzenegger’s skin-mag admissions were not discussed. Meanwhile, ABC News reportedly is delaying an on-camera interview with a former Mr. Universe, now a Caribbean newspaper publisher, accusing Schwarzenegger of making insensitive racial comments years ago, like “If you gave these blacks a country [like South Africa] to run, they would run it down the tubes.”

This week, Gloria Allred was booked on MSNBC’s The Abrams Report, but only to talk about the Laci Peterson murder and not to repeat the R word (“sounds as though it was a rape”) she expressed to the L.A. Weekly last week about the gangbang. “The press for the most part is reducing it to a footnote,” Allred complained on Tuesday.

And, one day after he denounced California’s Democratic Party chairman, Art Torres, for raising the P word (“sexual predator”) during a screaming match on KNX radio with Schwarzenegger campaign chair, Representative David Dreier, MSNBC’s Chris Matthews — broadcasting from the left coast through the October 7 election — could deliver no better qualified Californian to discuss the recall than, get this, ex-Nixon cohort and Ferris Buehler bit-part player and game-show host Ben Stein.

And that’s not even counting all the hours upon hours of local right-wing talk-radio time whose suck-up interviews (yes, KABC’s Larry Elder and KFI’s John and Ken, we’re talking about you) Schwarzenegger has used like paid advertising. While in the pages of the Los Angeles Times, even just the semblance of a debate has been ripped out of news reporters’ hands and relegated to the marginal turf of columnists.

Then there’s what Hollywood likes to call the “character arc” that’s written into the best scripts. So this recall could be a referendum on how much of a “work in progress” voters will tolerate in their candidates, especially one that’s a movie star. Supporters argue that Schwarzenegger’s flip-flopping on the issues is merely part of his maturation process. But that doesn’t explain going back on pledges not to take special-interest money or attack his opponents personally. It also doesn’t excuse remembering, then forgetting, then remembering again, giving that 1977 Oui magazine interview.

With a startling specificity of language, Schwarzenegger fondly recounted one several-guys-and-one-lone-gal orgy: “Bodybuilders party a lot, and once, in Gold’s — the gym in Venice, California, where all the top guys train — there was a black girl who came out naked. Everybody jumped on her and took her upstairs, where we all got together.”

Asked by the interviewer if this had been a “gangbang,” Schwarzenegger said, “Yes, but not everybody, just the guys who can fuck in front of other guys.”

Allred said of his description: “I am disgusted, appalled, revolted, sickened, disturbed and troubled.” On Labor Day, in a luncheon speech to the National Foundation of Women Legislators meeting in Las Vegas, she read from a letter she sent to Schwarzenegger demanding it is “imperative” that he stop his “evasive and simply unacceptable answers about this serious issue. The comments attributed to you appear to both condone and make light of the victimization of a woman. A group sexual assault of a woman is no joke and no laughing matter. It is reprehensible, repulsive and injurious to women.” Added Allred, “Sexually targeting women for ‘relief’ is the act of bullies and men who have no regard or concern for women or girls and the long-lasting harm that such conduct may inflict on them. If you were involved in such behavior we call on you to take full responsibility for your actions.”

Although two local stations covered Allred’s speech — one CBS affiliate, the other Fox — the feed has not shown up in Los Angeles or on any national broadcast. Yet major news was made when Fox TV bounced Frenchie Davis as an American Idol contestant because she once posed nude for an Internet porn site. Talk about a major disconnect.

But the Oui interview wasn’t a she-accuses, he-denies allegation like Juanita Broderick vs. Bill Clinton. This was a he-bragged-about-what-he-did situation. No one may ever know what really happened until the woman involved is heard from. Yet it’s also clear that no one will get any clarity on the subject courtesy of Schwarzenegger.

And no one supporting Schwarzenegger has yet to explain that March 2001 Premiere magazine article which recounts more recent moviemaking allegations of groping and fondling by Schwarzenegger, including one claiming that “Arnold went up to the woman, put his hands inside her blouse, and proceeded to pull her breasts out of her bra.” According to the article, the woman ran off and became hysterical, but refused to press charges for fear of losing her job. “Stories of his boorish behavior can no longer be routinely erased,” the magazine said. “Then again, he’d make a helluva politician.” A lawyer for Schwarzenegger denied the accusations but never sued.

Yes, the U.S. Supreme Court recently confirmed what most Democrats had been saying during the Clinton scandals: that people’s sex lives are their own personal business. But sex as a political sniper is disarmed only as long as the sex is consensual and all parties are willing participants. As for this self-described gangbang: In the eye of the beholder, was Schwarzenegger a youthful sexual hijinxer or craven sexual predator? Or, put into Hollywood parlance, was this a scene out of American Pie or The Accused?

Even in the sexually liberated 1970s, the term gangbang had then, still has and will always conjure up an image of an act of sexual aggression. And the description of several heavily muscled men at one time having a sexual encounter with a single woman, where words like jump and took are used to describe it, suggests roughness even if the woman found it pleasurable. Even in terms of contemporary morality when attitudes careen from politically correct feminism to Howard Stern’s she’s-asking-to-be-treated-like-a-ho humor, it’s a rare set of circumstances to equate a gangbang to a “party,” as Arnold does.

At first, Schwarzenegger had only this to say about the article: It was not the type of interview he would give today. “I never lived ‰ my life to be a politician. I never lived my life to be the governor of California,” and so forth. By Friday, he developed amnesia overnight, claiming at a public appearance that he had no recollection of who, what, where, when. When that didn’t fly, Schwarzenegger tried to give the impression that the sex talk was a publicity stunt.

The Oui question-and-answer interview, which took place when Schwarzenegger was 29 years old and already a minor celebrity (having appeared in two movies, Stay Hungry and Pumping Iron, the documentary about the 1975 Mr. Olympia contest, which Schwarzenegger won), first came to light on the Internet last Wednesday. By evening, some of California’s TV newscasts made general references to Schwarzenegger’s “graphic” description of his “wild” past without fleshing out the lurid details.

Last Friday, the author of the Oui interview, Peter Manso, told Pacifica Radio’s Democracy Now! show that Schwarzenegger’s attitude back then was “to put it bluntly, women are hunks of meat, no more, no less.” It was clear in a 1981 Penthouse interview that Schwarzenegger, then dating Maria Shriver, had become more politically correct. But he still expressed a belief that “I was introduced to sex in the right way, so I didn’t develop any hang-ups about it” — this, after describing “a very pleasurable scene” of serial group sex where, in his native Austria, he joined a group of fellow bodybuilders who “said that women were really just there to have sex with, and at 15 I believed them. On Sundays, they went out to train at a lake near town, took their weights and some female companions,” and had “very free and open sex” during which “nobody knew who belonged to whom.”

There was an eerie silence about the revelations, especially among those blanket-covering the recall, including talk-radio and television gadflies not exactly known for being shy about shouting their opinions. On Thursday morning, conservative commentator Bill O’Reilly referred to the Schwarzenegger interview on his radio show only in passing to opine that “People’s personal lives have nothing to do with their political lives.” Yet O’Reilly had been among those many pundits and politicians who consistently maintained that the details of Bill Clinton’s sexual past were appropriate fodder for political attacks and press probes — a position vigorously opposed by both liberals and even moderates. At the same, some Democrats who had wanted everyone to keep silent about Clinton’s blowjobs were ready to stir the political pot and watch Schwarzenegger boil. Amazing that the media would slap down such sensationalism.

By Friday, shock had turned to show. But as the holiday weekend continued, fewer radio and television commentators were discussing the content and context of the interview with politicians and pundits. That’s because a tacit consensus had been reached among these men, not just Schwarzenegger’s supporters but even conservative Republicans who would have been expected to voice indignation, that it would be a mistake to exploit this bump in his political path for “partisan” reasons.

The only mistake here was the media’s, for not making all these hot-button issues into Topic A. Hollywood, ever alert for the next big story, would have known better.

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SCWARTZENEGGER ADMIRED HITLER SAYS NY TIMES.

I GUESS ITS THE "CONSERVATIVE" THING TO DO.

film producer who chronicled Arnold Schwarzenegger's rise to fame as a champion bodybuilder in the 1970's circulated a book proposal six years ago that quoted the young Mr. Schwarzenegger expressing admiration for Adolf Hitler.

The book proposal by the producer, George Butler, included what were presented as verbatim excerpts from interviews with Mr. Schwarzenegger in the filming of the documentary "Pumping Iron." In a part of the interview not used in the film, Mr. Schwarzenegger was asked to name his heroes — "who do you admire most."

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"It depends for what," Mr. Schwarzenegger said, according to the transcript in the book proposal. "I admired Hitler, for instance, because he came from being a little man with almost no formal education up to power. And I admire him for being such a good public speaker."

In addition to the transcript, Mr. Butler wrote in his book proposal that in the 1970's, he considered Mr. Schwarzenegger a "flagrant, outspoken admirer of Hitler." In the proposal, Mr. Butler also said he had seen Mr. Schwarzenegger playing "Nazi marching songs from long-playing records in his collection at home" and said that the actor "frequently clicked his heels and pretended to be an S.S. officer."

Mr. Schwarzenegger, in a telephone interview on Thursday, said he did not recall making any of the comments attributed to him or engaging in any of the behavior described by Mr. Butler.

"Let you tell you something: it's one of those things that if you come from that background, you get accused a lot of times of being that, of being a Nazi," said Mr. Schwarzenegger, who grew up in Austria and whose father was a member of the Nazi Party.


FULL STORY.......

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/10/03/national/03BOOK.html?ex=1065758400&en=60e7a8c51d702e16&ei=5062&partner=GOOGLE

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LOL!!!!!!


PUMPING IRONY

http://www.markfiore.com/animation/irony.html

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Couldn't resist--- my brothers! Snarf !

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ARNOLD UNPLUGGED
It's hasta la vista to $9 billion if the Governator is selected

by Greg Palast
Friday October 3, 2003

It's not what Arnold Schwarzenegger did to the girls a decade back that
should raise an eyebrow. According to a series of memoranda our office
obtained today, it's his dalliance with the boys in a hotel room just
two years ago that's the real scandal.

The wannabe governor has yet to deny that on May 17, 2001, at the
Peninsula Hotel in Los Angeles, he had consensual political intercourse
with Enron chieftain Kenneth Lay. Also frolicking with Arnold and Ken
was convicted stock swindler Mike Milken.

Now, thirty-four pages of internal Enron memoranda have just come
through this reporter's fax machine tell all about the tryst between
Maria's husband and the corporate con men. It turns out that
Schwarzenegger knowingly joined the hush-hush encounter as part of a
campaign to sabotage a Davis-Bustamante plan to make Enron and other
power pirates then ravaging California pay back the $9 billion in
illicit profits they carried off.

Here's the story Arnold doesn't want you to hear. The biggest single
threat to Ken Lay and the electricity lords is a private lawsuit filed
last year under California's unique Civil Code provision 17200, the
"Unfair Business Practices Act." This litigation, heading to trial now
in Los Angeles, would make the power companies return the $9 billion
they filched from California electricity and gas customers.

It takes real cojones to bring such a suit. Who's the plaintiff taking
on the bad guys? Cruz Bustamante, Lieutenant Governor and reluctant
leading candidate against Schwarzenegger.

Now follow the action. One month after Cruz brings suit, Enron's Lay
calls an emergency secret meeting in L.A. of his political
buck-buddies, including Arnold. Their plan, to undercut Davis
(according to Enron memos) and "solve" the energy crisis -- that is,
make the Bustamante legal threat go away.

How can that be done? Follow the trail with me.

While Bustamante's kicking Enron butt in court, the Davis
Administration is simultaneously demanding that George Bush's energy
regulators order the $9 billion refund. Don't hold your breath:
Bush's Federal Energy Regulatory Commission is headed by a guy proposed
by … Ken Lay.

But Bush's boys on the commission have a problem. The evidence against
the electricity barons is rock solid: fraudulent reporting of sales
transactions, megawatt "laundering," fake power delivery scheduling and
straight out conspiracy (including meetings in hotel rooms).

So the Bush commissioners cook up a terrific scheme: charge the
companies with conspiracy but offer them, behind closed doors, deals in
which they have to pay only two cents on each dollar they filched.

Problem: the slap-on-the-wrist refunds won't sail if the Governor of
California won't play along. Solution: Re-call the Governor.

New Problem: the guy most likely to replace Davis is not Mr.
Musclehead, but Cruz Bustamante, even a bigger threat to the power
companies than Davis. Solution: smear Cruz because -- heaven forbid!
he took donations from Injuns (instead of Ken Lay).

The pay-off? Once Arnold is Governor, he blesses the sweetheart
settlements with the power companies. When that happens, Bustamante's
court cases are probably lost. There aren't many judges who will let a
case go to trial to protect a state if that a governor has already
allowed the matter to be "settled" by a regulatory agency.

So think about this. The state of California is in the hole by $8
billion for the coming year. That's chump change next to the $8
TRILLION in deficits and surplus losses planned and incurred by George
Bush. Nevertheless, the $8 billion deficit is the hanging rope
California's right wing is using to lynch Governor Davis.

Yet only Davis and Bustamante are taking direct against to get back the
$9 billion that was vacuumed out of the state by Enron, Reliant,
Dynegy, Williams Company and the other Texas bandits who squeezed the
state by the bulbs.

But if Arnold is selected, it's 'hasta la vista' to the $9 billion.
When the electricity emperors whistle, Arnold comes -- to the Peninsula
Hotel or the Governor's mansion. The he-man turns pussycat and curls
up in their lap.

I asked Mr. Muscle's PR people to comment on the new Enron memos -- and
his strange silence on Bustamante's suit or Davis' petition. But
Arnold was too busy shaving off his Hitlerian mustache to respond.


To receive more of Greg's investigative reports click here: http://www.gregpalast.com/contact.cfm

Greg Palast is author of the New York Times bestseller, "The Best
Democracy Money Can Buy" as well as "Regulation and Democracy" (with
Theo MacGregor and Jerrold Oppenheim), the United Nations guide to
utility deregulation. Read Palast's commentaries at http://www.GregPalast.com. Reprints permitted. Contact:
media@gregpalast.com. The Enron memos were discovered by the
Foundation for Taxpayer and Consumer Rights, Los Angeles, http://www.ConsumerWatchdog.org
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Wow...great article.

I knew he was muckedy muck with globalist Illumnati like Amel Rothschild and Warren Buffet but Palast's article is quite a revelation.

Guess I was right in guessing he would continue the California energy swindle.

I guess the corruption meter went up in a big way!

Ka-Ching!

Ka-Ching!

They want to have ALL the bases covered.

Its too obvious now.

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http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2003/09/14/IN292723.DTL


....the inner circle of Schwarzenegger's "populist" crusade looks like a Bohemian Grove toga party: Donald Bren, George Shultz, David Murdock, Warren Buffett, and so on.


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California Recall a Referendum on Schwarzenegger

2 hours, 25 minutes ago

By Gina Keating and Adam Tanner

SAN DIEGO/PLEASANTON, Calif. (Reuters) - California Gov. Gray Davis (news - web sites) charged into the final stage of the state's wild recall battle on Sunday energized by fresh charges of sexual harassment against Arnold Schwarzenegger, his chief rival for the state's top job.


At least 15 women have alleged Schwarzenegger groped or harassed them, as recently as 2000, with four fresh allegations emerging on Saturday, the Los Angeles Times reported.

What began as a grass roots protest over Davis' handling of the state's ailing economy has become a referendum on the bodybuilder turned Hollywood star.

Davis stopped short on Saturday of calling for a criminal investigation of the former Mr. Universe, but warned a women's forum in Oakland, California the state may be on the verge of saddling itself with a governor with a criminal past. Groping is viewed as criminal sexual assault in California.

Schwarzenegger, a Republican, has accused Davis and others of waging "puke politics" and, in an interview released on Sunday by ABC, told interviewer Peter Jennings the late revelation "is campaign trickery and it is dirty campaigning.

"Many of those things are not true. Like, for instance, I despise anything and everything that Hitler stands for."

Davis appeared emboldened by an internal poll suggesting support for the recall -- though still just above 50 percent -- is slipping as the heat remains on Schwarzenegger, with 48 percent opposed in the poll of 500 registered voters.

While the momentum was moving in Davis' favor, the question remained whether he had enough time before Tuesday's poll to pull from behind for a victory. "I feel good about this campaign," Davis told Reuters in an interview in San Diego on Saturday. "Elections are always a leap of faith. ... This has been a crazy election. There have been some wild swings."

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ARNOLD, OR HIS ACCUSERS, LYING?

The allegations against Schwarzenegger "raise serious questions about whether he can govern California," Davis told supporters on Sunday at a rally in Los Angeles at a hospital where he signed health care legislation that extends health insurance benefits to 1 million uninsured workers.

"The question gets down to this: Are 15 women and their families lying, or is Mr. Schwarzenegger not telling the truth?," Davis told supporters

Schwarzenegger finished up a four-day bus tour on Sunday outside the state capital in Sacramento after a sometimes rowdy barn-storming trek across the state. Thousands of supporters and a few hecklers gathered on the lawn of the state capitol, where he gave his stock campaign speech holding up a broom at one point and promising to "sweep out Gray Davis."

Performing at the rally was Dee Snider, lead singer of rock group Twisted Sister, a middle-aged rocker in frizzy shoulder-length blonde hair who performed the campaign's anthem "We're not gonna take it" -- three times, no less.

The actor closed the rally by exiting from the stage into the state capitol building as though he already had run of the place. "I think he should be forgiven, people make mistakes," said real estate agent Irene Rubalcaba. "It's terribly mean spirited. I don't believe in looking into people's pasts."

Protestors carried signs like "Arnold release the Hitler tapes," a reference to out takes from the movie "Pumping Iron" in which he apparently expressed admiration for Hitler, and "Arnold, are your daughters pieces of meat?"

One supporter made light of the groping charges with the placard: "Gray groped our ASSets."

Lethal Weapon actor Danny Glover flew with Davis to a rally at a San Jose union hall, where he told union members "I'm very disturbed by what is happening in this state."

Glover said he had taken his only day off this week to lend his celebrity to help Davis stave off his ouster.

While delivering his usual stump speech Davis paused to inject rare humor. After listing his accomplishments after five years as governor, he asked wonderingly, "Why would they want to recall a guy like me? I don't get it."

The governor planned to end his day in Los Angeles with an hour-long interview with CNN's Larry King.

In Tuesday's vote, Californians will decide whether they will oust Davis in the second such recall in U.S. history. The second part of the ballot lists 135 replacement candidates.

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http://www.rense.com/general42/dsdt.htm

It's Hasta La Vista To $9 Billion If The
Governator Is Selected
By Greg Palast
10-3-3


It's not what Arnold Schwarzenegger did to the girls a decade back that should raise an eyebrow. According to a series of memoranda our office obtained today, it's his dalliance with the boys in a hotel room just two years ago that's the real scandal.

The wannabe governor has yet to deny that on May 17, 2001, at the Peninsula Hotel in Los Angeles, he had consensual political intercourse with Enron chieftain Kenneth Lay. Also frolicking with Arnold and Ken was convicted stock swindler Mike Milken.

Now, thirty-four pages of internal Enron memoranda have just come through this reporter's fax machine tell all about the tryst between Maria's husband and the corporate con men. It turns out that Schwarzenegger knowingly joined the hush-hush encounter as part of a campaign to sabotage a Davis-Bustamante plan to make Enron and other power pirates then ravaging California pay back the $9 billion in illicit profits they carried off.

Here's the story Arnold doesn't want you to hear. The biggest single threat to Ken Lay and the electricity lords is a private lawsuit filed last year under California's unique Civil Code provision 17200, the "Unfair Business Practices Act." This litigation, heading to trial now in Los Angeles, would make the power companies return the $9 billion they filched from California electricity and gas customers.

It takes real cojones to bring such a suit. Who's the plaintiff taking on the bad guys? Cruz Bustamante, Lieutenant Governor and reluctant leading candidate against Schwarzenegger.

Now follow the action. One month after Cruz brings suit, Enron's Lay calls an emergency secret meeting in L.A. of his political buck-buddies, including Arnold. Their plan, to undercut Davis (according to Enron memos) and "solve" the energy crisis -- that is, make the Bustamante legal threat go away.

How can that be done? Follow the trail with me.

While Bustamante's kicking Enron butt in court, the Davis Administration is simultaneously demanding that George Bush's energy regulators order the $9 billion refund. Don't hold your breath: Bush's Federal Energy Regulatory Commission is headed by a guy proposed by Ken Lay.

But Bush's boys on the commission have a problem. The evidence against the electricity barons is rock solid: fraudulent reporting of sales transactions, megawatt "laundering," fake power delivery scheduling and straight out conspiracy (including meetings in hotel rooms).

So the Bush commissioners cook up a terrific scheme: charge the companies with conspiracy but offer them, behind closed doors, deals in which they have to pay only two cents on each dollar they filched.

Problem: the slap-on-the-wrist refunds won't sail if the Governor of California won't play along. Solution: Re-call the Governor.

New Problem: the guy most likely to replace Davis is not Mr. Musclehead, but Cruz Bustamante, even a bigger threat to the power companies than Davis. Solution: smear Cruz because -- heaven forbid! -- he took donations from Injuns (instead of Ken Lay).

The pay-off? Once Arnold is Governor, he blesses the sweetheart settlements with the power companies. When that happens, Bustamante's court cases are probably lost. There aren't many judges who will let a case go to trial to protect a state if that a governor has already allowed the matter to be "settled" by a regulatory agency.

So think about this. The state of California is in the hole by $8 billion for the coming year. That's chump change next to the $8 TRILLION in deficits and surplus losses planned and incurred by George Bush. Nevertheless, the $8 billion deficit is the hanging rope California's right wing is using to lynch Governor Davis.

Yet only Davis and Bustamante are taking direct against to get back the $9 billion that was vacuumed out of the state by Enron, Reliant, Dynegy, Williams Company and the other Texas bandits who squeezed the state by the bulbs.

But if Arnold is selected, it's 'hasta la vista' to the $9 billion. When the electricity emperors whistle, Arnold comes -- to the Peninsula Hotel or the Governor's mansion. The he-man turns pussycat and curls up in their lap.

I asked Mr. Muscle's PR people to comment on the new Enron memos -- and his strange silence on Bustamante's suit or Davis' petition. But Arnold was too busy shaving off his Hitlerian mustache to respond.

The Enron memos were discovered by the Foundation for Taxpayer and Consumer Rights, Los Angeles, www.ConsumerWatchdog.org
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My insticts tell me he will be SE-lected

not elected.


Just like an election we all remember.

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Arnie toons

http://cagle.slate.msn.com/news/Schwarzenegger/1.asp

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Hard to verify an anonymous, but here it is:
http://memes.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=2021&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0

BUSH WHITE HOUSE/CARLYLE/SAUDIS & 9/11 CONNECTION
Posted by: Anonymous on Oct 06, 2003 - 12:56 PM


As most realize, James Baker is currently the senior attorney for The Carlyle Group. The same James Baker was the Secretary of State for "Daddy Bush" as well as senior counsel to "Boy George's" Florida recount legal team. IN addition, the same James Baker is a senior partner in the law firm of Baker Botts, in Houston, Texas. The same James Baker is currently defending the Saudi Defense Minister, Prince Sultan bin Abdul Aziz, and the Saudi Govt, from the lawsuits filed by hundreds of husbands and wives of 9/11 victims alleging Saudi complicity in the 9/11 catastrophy through it's funding and political support for the 9/11 terrorists.

PS: Prince Sultan Aziz is the same Saudi that offered Rudi the $10,000,000 saying that America had only itself to blame for 9/11. It is the SAME Prince Sultan Aziz that is business partner with Arnold Schwarzenneger in Planet Hollywood or should we rename it "Planet Saudi"!


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http://www.truthout.com

(*Editors Note | While Davis's call for a criminal investigation has political overtones with the recall election less than 48 hours away, the issue will remain potent after the election regardless. Under California law any non-consensual sexual contact is unlawful. With 15 women now accusing Schwarzenegger of such acts the allegations would undoubtedly follow him to the Governor's mansion. For Republicans both in California and nationally this carries big potential risks. For the moment the game plan seams to be, 'gain power now, no matter what the cost.' How it will be possible for the Republican party to distance itself, in a national election year, from behavior that makes Bill Clinton look like a choir boy, remains to be seen. -- ma)
Davis Wants Criminal Investigation
Robert Salladay and Zachary Coile
San Francisco Chronicle

Sunday 05 October 2003

Gov. Gray Davis, spending the final days of the recall campaign surrounded by women and prominent Democrats, suggested Saturday that actor Arnold Schwarzenegger committed a crime of sexual battery and should be investigated by law enforcement.

The governor's comments were a significant escalation of his rhetoric against his chief Republican rival in Tuesday's recall campaign. The allegations about Schwarzenegger's conduct with women, and statements he is reported to have made about Adolf Hitler, provided the Davis campaign with a dose of optimism -- mixed with astonishment at the extraordinary events over the past couple of days.

Davis aides insist that internal polls show support for the recall has dropped dramatically since the allegations surfaced three days ago, and they are using the events to their fullest without trying to sound gleeful. They said a forum Saturday highlighting Davis' support for women was planned well before the Schwarzenegger controversy erupted, but it clearly fit into the governor's urgent need to mobilize women and Democrats to vote against the recall.

Standing in front of a video screen with the words, "Respecting Women's Rights," and surrounded by Sens. Dianne Feinstein and Barbara Boxer, House Democratic leader Nancy Pelosi, and his wife, Sharon Davis, the governor offered his harshest comments to date about Schwarzenegger.

"Some of those events are clearly a crime," Davis told an audience of mostly women. "Electing a governor who might have committed a crime is obviously going to distract the state from the work it has to do."

Later, when asked what crimes Schwarzenegger may have committed, the governor suggested "sexual battery" and implied that police, Attorney General Bill Lockyer or local prosecutors should investigate the actor. It should be up to them to determine if the statute of limitations expired on the alleged incidents, the campaign said.

"Authorities have all the authority they need to review any matter that they might deem to constitute a crime," Davis said. "I believe authorities should do their jobs. They should review the fact. On the completion of that review, they should follow their own laws."

Schwarzenegger spokesman Rob Stutzman responded to statement by saying: "Davis' desperation continues to escalate in the final hours of his political career."

Ashtray Incident
Schwarzenegger supporters also raised issues about Davis' volatile temper, including an incident in which he allegedly threw an ashtray at a staff worker who later had to take a stress leave. Davis called the longtime employee and apologized on her answering machine, according to news reports of the incident.

Peter Ragone, spokesman for the governor, said comparing an incident in which Davis "may have thrown an ashtray to conduct Arnold Schwarzenegger already has admitted to shows their campaign is in a free fall."

Davis began a three-day blitz of the state that took him by a chartered 737 jet Saturday from Burbank to Oakland to Fresno to San Diego. Independent candidate Arianna Huffington traveled on one leg with the governor, chatting amiably with her former rival. The Rev. Jesse Jackson spoke in Oakland, which took place at a union hall where dozens of Davis supporters were mobilizing to work the phones in the final days of the campaign.

The Davis campaign said they would begin a series of paid telephone messages to the homes of hundreds of thousands of Californians, featuring former President Bill Clinton, actress Barbra Streisand, Jackson and actor Martin Sheen asking people to vote against the recall.

But the events in Oakland were all about women, and about Schwarzenegger. The Davis campaign now is completely fixated on challenging the Republican candidate -- and they believe their change of strategy three weeks ago to highlight the recall as a two-person race between the governor and Schwarzenegger will pay off now that the actor is under attack.

Brought together for a staged town hall forum with easy questions -- such as "What does it mean to you to be a pro-choice leader?" -- several women at the event expressed shock at Schwarzenegger's comments. Nearly every speaker mentioned the allegations, including Assemblywoman Ellen Corbett, D-San Leandro, who called Schwarzenegger the "gropinator."

"I'm Jewish and I'm a woman and the combination right in the middle of the (Jewish) high holidays, to have the revelations come forward really have weighed on my consciousness," said Tracy Salkowitz of San Francisco, a women's rights activist who attended the forum. "I'm feeling scared and dispirited."

Feinstein Comments
Feinstein also offered her strongest comments to date against Schwarzenegger, questioning why any "decent American" would ever say they admired Hitler. She said the women who have accused Schwarzenegger said he did things that "really denigrate and deprecate women." She asked women to think twice before voting for the recall.

"Do we really want this man to be governor of our state?" Feinstein asked. "Do we really want him to be the role model for our children?"

After the day's developments, Democratic strategists said Davis is simply doing the smart thing politically by stepping up his attack. He is using the scandals over Schwarzenegger's treatment of women and his alleged admiration of Hitler to raise question about the actor's character and his ability to lead -- the same questions Schwarzenegger has asked about Davis.

"In this type of atmosphere, where you have several major scandal stories, it's important to focus voters on what is the key, core, underlying issue here, and the real issue is: Is Arnold fit to be governor?" said Chris Lehane, a Democratic strategist who is working against the recall.

Democratic strategist Darry Sragow, who isn't working for any of the campaigns, said Davis must tread a fine line: He has to remind voters of the seriousness of the charges without alienating them by telling them how they should react to the scandal.

"It's appropriate to express concern and outrage because the behavior is outrageous and arguably is criminal behavior," Sragow said. "But the critical factor is that voters will have to make up their own minds."

Democrats say their polling is showing the race tightening in the final days. Overnight polling by the state Democratic Party pegged support for the recall at 48 percent to 47 percent -- a dead heat -- while Davis' pollster Paul Maslin showed the recall with a minuscule edge, 50 percent to 48 percent, Maslin and Davis campaign officials said.

Pelosi said the new numbers show Davis still has a good chance to survive.

"The people had their fling in California," Pelosi said. "Now they are coming home."


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