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Ellyn
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760 posts, Jul 2000

posted 08-14-2003 01:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ellyn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.rense.com/general40/americathe4th.htm

America, The Fourth Reich
By Ian Gurney
8-13-3


"Dictatorships start wars because they need external enemies to exert internal control over their own people." -Richard Perle

Americans are the new Nazis. There, that's earned me a lot of enemies very quickly hasn't it?

"How dare you," comes the riposte from the neo-cons in the administration and the right-wing think tanks like JINSA and the PNAC, as well as the "Fox news compliant" brigade whose heads are still stuck up their backsides enjoying the televised view. "America is a democracy, a free country run by a democratically elected government. It is the land of the free, the home of the brave and the protector of the free world," I hear them chorus.

To that I say, bullshit.

To say America is a democracy these days is just stretching things too far. Consider: Bush was not elected by the majority of people in the USA. Admittedly the turnout was low (you do, after all, get the government you deserve if you don't exercise your franchise) but George W didn't get a mandate. To do that more than 50 percent of the voters have to vote for you, and that didn't happen. In fact, Georgie boy lost. However, good old George made sure that, mandate or not, win or not, with a little help from friends and family in Florida he could win it by cheating. Let's not mince words, George W Bush stole the presidency of the United States. He is not the democratically elected leader of America.

It also appears that some unelected officials in the Bush administration may have acquired more power than the president himself. Perle, Wolfowitz, Feith, Bolton, Abrams, Rumsfeld all share the same right-wing neo-conservative views held by organisations such as the Project for a New American Century, the Zionist Organisation of America and the Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs. As members of these organisations, it could be said that this unelected cabal of neo-cons in the White House and the Pentagon have interests other than America at heart. This is not only undemocratic, it is treason.

So, we now see that America is governed by a president who was not democratically elected, supported by an unelected cabal of people with very extreme and in some cases, very un-American views. This cannot, therefore, classify America as a democratic country. A country that is governed by a non-elected power is, as we have seen and heard these last few months concerning Iraq, Iran and North Korea, classed as a "dictatorship". Dictatorships are fascist by nature. Fascism is described as "right-wing dictatorship". Look up the word fascism. See what I mean?

Now let's take a quick look at Germany in the 1930s and '40s as the Nazis reared their ugly heads. Here was a country that was financially crippled with a massive budget deficit owing billions of dollars to the rest of the world. Just like the USA.

In the 1930s Germany was a country where the burning of the Reichstag, Germany's 9/11, engineered by Hitler and his henchmen, was used to create external enemies and to exert internal control over the German people. Hitler then used the media to lie, frighten and deceive the population, allowing a bunch of vicious, extreme, right-wing megalomaniacs to gain power. Just like the USA.

In the 1930s Hitler was surrounded by a group of unelected officials whose sole objective was to take control of Germany for their own ends and with the use of their military might, take control of the assets and prosperity of other, weaker countries. Just like the USA.

In 1939 Hitler embarked on a series of pre-emptive attacks on sovereign nations in the name of "freeing the people" of that country. Just like the USA.

In 1940 the German hierarchy started building special "camps" or detention centres in which to incarcerate and eventually execute those people considered to be "against" their regime. Just like the USA.

As Germany invaded the countries surrounding them during World War II, they found that far from having conquered the country and "liberated" the people, the people of that country formed nationalist "resistance" groups and used guerilla warfare to kill, harass and slowly demoralise the occupying army. Just like the USA.

"History is little more than the register of crimes, follies, and misfortunes of mankind" wrote Edward Gibbon, the British historian in The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire. History should teach us a great many things, but unfortunately the majority of Americans know very little about history, or for that matter, the rest of the world. Don't believe me? Ask an American where Admiral Lord Nelson, one of the worlds greatest naval commanders, died or what nationality Alexander the Great was? Better still, ask an American to point to pretty much any foreign country on a map. Try North Korea.

If you know nothing of history, you cannot learn the lessons history teaches. You continue to make the same mistakes. Hitler's mistake was to wage war on too many fronts at once and underestimate the ferocity of the guerilla wars being fought against him by resistance groups all over Europe. Eventually it was Russia, or to be more precise, the Russian winter and Hitler's hubris, that proved to much for the disillusioned German troops, sick and tired of fighting and dying for a regime that they belatedly realised was illegitimate.

Hitler, in the last desperate act of a cowardly tyrant, committed suicide. Germany, defeated and destroyed, had lost everything. Those who had been instrumental in Germany's war and propaganda machine were tried and executed. Eventually Germany once again became a democracy, but it had taken the deaths of many millions of people to restore that democracy.

Despite Germany's huge arsenal of weapons, it had lost the war because those running Germany were not the democratic leaders of a democratic country, but were fascist, right-wing neo-conservatives: Nazis, who propagated an illegal war through lies and deception and stirred up the anger of all decent thinking people on the planet with their evil deeds.

Just like the USA.

Copyright © 2003 Ian Gurney

Ian Gurney is a broadcaster, journalist and the author of the bestseller, "The Cassandra Prophecy-Armageddon Approaches," published by International Global Press. ISBN: 0953581314. Ian welcomes your comments at info@caspro.com


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Mech
Resisting the NWO


Northeast USA
4063 posts, Sep 2002

posted 08-14-2003 02:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mech   Visit Mech's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Iused to think it was a running joke that America was "becoming the new "Hitler's Germany".

Now I know those so-called "kooks" were right. Especially when you consider how this government is STARTING WARS instead of defending itself like the founding fathers intended. Creating terrorism against its own citizens by passing UNCONSTITUTIONAL laws like the Patriot (SIC) Act and The Victory Act.

Wasn't "Victory" products featured in George Orwells 1984?

In Orwells Book 1984...Emmanuel Goldstein was the "terrorist monster" to be feared and despised by the people..(like Osama Bin laden or saddam).The people were a frightened,flag waving, sleeping populace that despised free speech.Dissidents were "re-educated" through torture or worse.
The ministry of love blamed its own terrorist bombings on Goldstein...a terrorist enemy seemingly impossible to capture. (Sound familiar?) The society was a strict military industrial society (much like our own is becoming) and a police state where cameras watched your every move (sound familiar?)

To me...what the globalists are setting up is exactly what was featured in Orwells book. It's a beast system.Cameras everywhere, a tattle tale society, face scanning,hand scanning, credit instead of cash...you name it.

So if isn't the 4th reich...its certainly something that may fester into something much worse.The warning signs are right in plain view.

We need to tak back our constitutional republic back from these slavemasters. It's not theirs...it OURS.

Lets kick em' out!!!

[Edited 1 times, lastly by Mech on 08-14-2003]

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shatoga
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644 posts, Nov 2002

posted 08-15-2003 09:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for shatoga     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
you BOTH got that right!

so glad someone other than myself understands the truth about the 4th reich.

My thanks... to both of you!

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m3th0d
New Member


Rijeka, Croatia
26 posts, Jun 2003

posted 08-16-2003 06:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for m3th0d     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
We need to tak back our constitutional republic back from these slavemasters. It's not theirs...it OURS.

I'm surprised at how long all this is going on. Other countries get the image of US people being freedom-loving, proud of US constitution trough the media.
And yet it seems you're all weakened and unable to change this situation.
That's what you get to be when ur spending most of your time in front of TV (and that's not just in US of course) - you become weak and aware only of your immediate needs.

This sickens me!

I remember how Iraq war was covered in Croatia - during the actual 'war' we could watch CNN directly (I hated their coverage anyway), and then after about 2-3 weeks NOTHING. It was like it never happened!
And no1 is asking questions!

YUCK!

Please my American friends, do your best...because this is a threat to both you as a nation and us, small nations with no real power!


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'Eric Cartman : Why can't societies just live in peace?'

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Mech
Resisting the NWO


Northeast USA
4063 posts, Sep 2002

posted 08-16-2003 06:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mech   Visit Mech's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You can't peg that one on me. I haven't owned a TV in years.Have a DVD player in my computer but that's it.


Also..I think Political APATHY runs deep on BOTH sides of the ocean.

But you are right.Most Americans are overweight, consumerist zombies that pray to the gods of Wal-Mart and McDonalds.

[Edited 1 times, lastly by Mech on 08-16-2003]

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m3th0d
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Rijeka, Croatia
26 posts, Jun 2003

posted 08-17-2003 10:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for m3th0d     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So basically we agree on everything

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'Eric Cartman : Why can't societies just live in peace?'

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shatoga
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644 posts, Nov 2002

posted 08-18-2003 02:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for shatoga     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The chickenhawks who justify amerika's war against
Iraq,
argued exactly the opposite when the "dictator murdering his own people" was named Milosovic.

The 3rd reich was approving of rightwing police states and even helped Franco establish a rightwing dictatorship.
Mussolini was a dear friend to Hitler.

Our dear Dubya follows the same exact pattern of behavior. (so do his chickenhawk minions)
eg:
Establishing puppet governments led by "Quislings" (who sell out their countrymen for power/ parceled out by the invader who's yoke they serve body mind and soul)
http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/ubb/Forum6/HTML/001346.html

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Wolf_Larson
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The Sea
98 posts, Aug 2003

posted 09-17-2003 10:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Wolf_Larson   Visit Wolf_Larson's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmm, Do I detect a pattern in your posts Ellyn?

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the professor
quit your crying, it's not that bad


heartland USA
813 posts, Jan 2003

posted 09-18-2003 12:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for the professor   Visit the professor's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes she hates jews!

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Mech
Resisting the NWO


Northeast USA
4063 posts, Sep 2002

posted 09-18-2003 12:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mech   Visit Mech's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nah..I dont think she hates Jews...just Zionism.

IE..(see The Elders of Zion manifesto)

There are MANY Jews that are fed up with Zionism. You can't blame them all...moostly it's Sharon and the Likud party and their Mossad agents. Definately NWO shills.

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swamp gas
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Jersey City, NJ
851 posts, May 2002

posted 09-18-2003 09:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for swamp gas     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If someone dislikes Fundamentalist Catholics, does that mean they automatically hate the Irish?

Disliking Zionism IS NOT being Anti-semetic.

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Mech
Resisting the NWO


Northeast USA
4063 posts, Sep 2002

posted 09-18-2003 01:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mech   Visit Mech's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sharon and the Likud party is at a level of fundamentalism only the Taliban or Pol Pot could love.

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the professor
quit your crying, it's not that bad


heartland USA
813 posts, Jan 2003

posted 09-18-2003 05:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for the professor   Visit the professor's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think the Jews in Israel get labeled as zionists as a whole because of the Palistinian conflict. Most Jews there would like it all to end I'm sure, with all the terrorism going on in such a small country I could see why they would want to eradicate all of the Arabs. I don't think zonists are in control of our own country.

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Ellyn
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760 posts, Jul 2000

posted 09-18-2003 06:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ellyn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Zionists use a very old ploy--divide and conquer. If a person shines the spotlight on the harmful and deceitful actions of the Zionists, they point to that person and label him a "Jew hater" (anti-Semite) or a "self-hating Jew." This ploy has worked to silence those critical of Zionist actions for quite some time, but I do believe that the time is coming where many are going to be seeing through this deception, and in my personal view, it cannot come too soon.

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