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Mech
Resisting the NWO


Northeast USA
3909 posts, Sep 2002

posted 08-20-2003 11:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mech   Visit Mech's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have confered with several people with this now and have confirmed that the following
E-mails sent to various people are from a government source.

If you see any of these subjects in your email box that contain attachments. You have been targetted. DO NOT OPEN THEM!!!

“Thank you!.”, “Details”, “My details”, “Approval”, “Application”, “That
movie”, “Your application”, and “Your details”.


You have been warned folks.

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theseeker
One moon circles


Damnit...I'm a doctor jim
3298 posts, Jul 2000

posted 08-20-2003 11:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for theseeker   Visit theseeker's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
mech, the latest virus info I posted down in the freeform area...throat's thread...

thing is once these things get into the addy books of people they replicate and appear to originate from those areas...

the exact source can be difficult to pin point...

might pop down there and read...

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Mech
Resisting the NWO


Northeast USA
3909 posts, Sep 2002

posted 08-21-2003 12:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mech   Visit Mech's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Okay Seeker.

But according to my research..at least one of those viruses came from a .GOV source.


These are DIFFERENT than the recent Sobig and worm viruses.

[Edited 2 times, lastly by Mech on 08-21-2003]

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theseeker
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Damnit...I'm a doctor jim
3298 posts, Jul 2000

posted 08-21-2003 01:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for theseeker   Visit theseeker's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
most people are not protected...one butthole out there can cause all kinds of trouble....

and they can change the filename of the mails appearing to be new mail from a new source...

if there is any benefit to virus and hacker/crackers is they even in their evil manage to create good....testing the system constantly...keeping the (and I know you don't believe this) *good guys* on their toes...

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Mech
Resisting the NWO


Northeast USA
3909 posts, Sep 2002

posted 08-21-2003 01:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mech   Visit Mech's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
*good guys* my @$$.

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theseeker
One moon circles


Damnit...I'm a doctor jim
3298 posts, Jul 2000

posted 08-21-2003 02:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for theseeker   Visit theseeker's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
there are more good guys than bad mech...

it does seem to take more good to overcome bad these days...

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CONSPIRACY_MAN
Senior Member


Canberra Australia
177 posts, Apr 2003

posted 08-21-2003 03:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CONSPIRACY_MAN   Visit CONSPIRACY_MAN's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
lol i been getting one everyday for a while now. i just been blocking the sender.

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shatoga
Agent Provocateur


588 posts, Nov 2002

posted 08-21-2003 08:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for shatoga     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Old friends who still work 'in the belly of the beast'
speculate that it may be just a fellow employee with too much time on his hands.

No conspiracy needed for several nuts to wreak havoc independent of their' bosses' knowlege.

Lots of overpaid underworked people are in government service.

It's plausible that some of them pursue their own agenda on company time.

"the devil finds work for idle hands"

eg: Hackers who have AOL accounts with us.gov addresses repeatedly try to get past my firewall.


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Proud Veteran
Senior Member


United States
205 posts, Jan 2003

posted 08-22-2003 01:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Proud Veteran     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you want to find out about TRUE hackers, go to www.hackers.com, or www.grc.com.

The last addy directs you to Steve Gibson's site. He has personally told Bill Gate$ about holes in his system. He has some excellent free utilities to check your system or LAN for leaks.

You are right Seeker, there are more good people than bad ones on the net

[Edited 1 times, lastly by Proud Veteran on 08-22-2003]

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theseeker
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Damnit...I'm a doctor jim
3298 posts, Jul 2000

posted 08-22-2003 02:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for theseeker   Visit theseeker's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
gibson's is one of the good guys...there's a utility over there that disables the hidden server running in windows xp...a good firewall will do the same thing...unless your fooled and grant a genuine windows program access...I don't run the messenger...and don't need a hidden server running on my machine...

Meow !

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theseeker
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Damnit...I'm a doctor jim
3298 posts, Jul 2000

posted 08-23-2003 05:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for theseeker   Visit theseeker's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
how about this !

Global hunt to kill off internet virus

By Robert Uhlig, Technology Correspondent
(Filed: 23/08/2003)


High-tech security investigators and police were involved in a global race against time last night to find 20 home computers harbouring a program that threatened to cripple the internet.

Experts discovered only in the early hours yesterday that the Sobig.F virus, thought to have infected tens of millions of PCs in the past week, contained an alarming secret.

Hidden in it was an instruction to make contact at 8pm (BST) with 20 home computers that could be anywhere in the world, all with high-speed broadband connections and each hosting an unidentified program.

"The problem is not knowing what that program is," said Carole Theriault, a security consultant at Sophos, an anti-virus company.

"It could mean that a smiley face bounces across your screen or it could be something massive. It is still under the control of the virus writer."

Possibilities included launching another virus or spam attack, collecting sensitive information, or deleting files stored on an infected computer or network.

Some computer experts believe that a large American crime syndicate is behind Sobig.F, using it and the 20 rogue home computers to extract personal information from people, such as their credit card numbers.

Miss Theriault said that even if the mystery program was written as a joke, the sheer volume of internet data converging on the 20 computers could slow the internet to a crawl.

Although most European businesses had closed for the weekend by the time Sobig.F triggered its potentially devastating payload, the time of 8pm was intended to coincide with the regular business afternoon in America. It will be activated again at 8pm tomorrow.

Computer security experts said that almost all the rogue computers had been identified late last night. Nineteen of the 20 had been shut down; the other was still connected to the internet but was not sending out any damaging programmes, a spokesman for Sophos said.

Expert remained on the alert amid concerns about what the virus might do tomorrow night. The spokesman said the original virus writer could target other home computers.

Since Sobig.F surfaced on Monday it has been crippling corporate email networks and filling home users' inboxes with a glut of messages.

The extent of the damage was unknown, but 20 million PCs in China alone were thought to be infected.

AOL, an internet service provider, said it had stopped more than 23 million copies of the virus, while MessageLabs, an email filtering firm, caught more than three million.

Michael Crawford, a security specialist at PA Consulting, said the week's infections could have cost £500 million.

Most companies never admit that they have been infected by a virus, but known victims include the American navy

Sobig.F swept through Iraq yesterday and the United Nations, the Ministry of Defence and several leading news stations said that their systems had been affected.

London was believed to be the worst-hit European city, with BT's broadband service among the victims.

Paul Wood, the chief information analyst at MessageLabs, said: "Sobig-F is unprecedented in our history. We intercepted more than one million infections in the first day alone."

An investigator at the National Hi-Tech Crime Unit said that officials and police in dozens of countries were seeking the perpetrator. "We want to prosecute," he said.

Investigators were piecing together suspect profiles from strings of computer code to try to trace their destination through a maze of internet addresses.

Last year the FBI and British police tracked down a Welsh virus writer, Simon Vallor, after he named his friends and included comments about Wales in the text of his virus, GoKar.

Vallor was sentenced to two years in jail, the longest sentence yet under the Computer Misuse Act 1990, for spreading his virus to 42 countries.

David Perry, of Trend Micro, an anti-virus firm, said the motives of virus writers often included showing off to girlfriends.


long link to the telegraph UK

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shatoga
Agent Provocateur


588 posts, Nov 2002

posted 08-24-2003 04:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for shatoga     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It could have been a smiley face.
It could have been the video of dubya authorizing Operation Northwoods on 911.

It will happen again.
someday....

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CONSPIRACY_MAN
Senior Member


Canberra Australia
177 posts, Apr 2003

posted 08-26-2003 02:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CONSPIRACY_MAN   Visit CONSPIRACY_MAN's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
does anyone know how to get rid of this?.
someone is spoofing my email and sending these with my email address.
the thing is i dont have a address book and im using hotmail.

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theseeker
One moon circles


Damnit...I'm a doctor jim
3298 posts, Jul 2000

posted 08-26-2003 02:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for theseeker   Visit theseeker's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'd scan your machine to see if you have any of the nasties going on now...and then work on the hostile mails...or let hotmail handle it...

I'd like to see the headers...

heard at the close of business friday the hammer comes down again...

it would be a healty thing for everyone that has this attack happening or the virus to post it here...

http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/w32.sobig.f@mm.removal.tool.html

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sparkyville
New Member


13 posts, Jul 2003

posted 08-26-2003 09:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sparkyville   Email sparkyville     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Conspiracy Man - If you are running XP or Me, make sure you turn off the System Restore option. Windows will prohibit access into the Restore folder to any virus scans or fix-it tools. Also, disconnect your PC from any online connections. Verify that your virus software is up-2-date. Just because you don't use something does not mean it can't cause grief.

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theseeker
One moon circles


Damnit...I'm a doctor jim
3298 posts, Jul 2000

posted 08-26-2003 09:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for theseeker   Visit theseeker's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
uhhh...sparky...if he turns off the system restore...and gets the virus and crashes his machine he will loose all data...including software that may have cost him plenty...bad idea...

virus protection checked daily,a good firewall, close all unnecessary ports, and don't let any program act as a server...

my 2 pennies

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sparkyville
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13 posts, Jul 2003

posted 08-27-2003 07:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sparkyville   Email sparkyville     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
seeker - it comes right from the symantec website. So Conspiracy Man I am not telling you anything wrong. I have run the procedure on over 50 PC's and found the original procedure (given to me from so-called experts) had the restore step not included. I have seen the worm reappear because of this and taken care of it.

Here is the link:
http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/w32.sobig.f@mm.removal.tool.ht ml

Seeker - You have replied to me before and I have tried to be sincere. Please before you rip on someone, do some research yourself. It is always wise.

Hope this helps your Conspiracy Man.


[Edited 1 times, lastly by sparkyville on 08-27-2003]

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theseeker
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Damnit...I'm a doctor jim
3298 posts, Jul 2000

posted 08-27-2003 08:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for theseeker   Visit theseeker's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
sparky, when you take it in the pants TWICE to the tune of about 800 bucks because of some asshole and their pet virus call me....

no rip intended...speaking from experience...

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Wolf_Larson
New Member


The Sea
35 posts, Aug 2003

posted 08-27-2003 10:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Wolf_Larson   Visit Wolf_Larson's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Buy a Mac

(yeah, I know, they can get viruses also, but at a much lower rate)

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