posted 08-20-2003 03:38 PM            

I think you regulars should be asking yourself am i being setup for a fall.Some of you seem to actually think this guy could possibly be legit and i dont guess thats way bad it happens alot on a variety of subjects throughout the internet.But if this guy was legit he would never get a cease and desist for national security reasons...more like a slit wrist and some morphine and the next days headlines another Dr commits suicide.I havent posted in a long time but i still observe, but i couldnt help posting on this.

posted 08-20-2003 05:05 PM            

broke my own rule and visited a yahoo chem-group...found this...

From: "Judah Ben-Hur"
Date: Tue Aug 19, 2003 6:20 pm
Subject: Re: [Chem Trail Tracking USA] Re: OT - Something Strange.... typos

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Istari;

Excuse me I forgot: there are a series of books published in America with those
type titles...ie Microsoft for dummies, msdos for dummies, etc. In know way am
I impling that anyone here is stupid! The report will be a EBOOK so anyone can
download it, even people not as smart as you!

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/chemtrailtrackingusa/message/98778

my my an excellent way to spread virus...

posted 08-20-2003 05:39 PM            

My main question is this phone #...one poster said they talked to Hur from that phone # yet another poster said they called the number and got a recording asking for the desired extension for the party you wish to reach....hmmmmm??? Would the poster that talked to him like to reveal the extension number plz?

And lastly, Mr. Hur what kind of point are you trying to make by posting some email you say you recieved on here, in none of those post of your emails did any of the authors authorize you to repost their email.Ill let the others bash you on teh does and donts of reposting private emails on forums, but you know whats up Hur, you can fool most of the ppl some of the time, but you messed around and found the whole thorn bush here.

MR Hur....you suck at mind games,not everyone here hinges on your every post like you wish they would,yet we await the chance to keep pointing out the flaws in your setup.

I for one wont be calling you, emailing you, only laughing at your attempt to discredit this board with your useless banter.

Thats is your agenda now isnt Mr Hur?

posted 08-20-2003 05:53 PM            

LOL

there's something about that site...heard complaints about it...have not had a chance to visit though...

btw hatchet heard that tampa is doing away with the "spy cams"...said they were worthless in fighting crime...

posted 08-20-2003 06:11 PM            

Late last night about midnight CST a storm was rolling in from Lower alabama and ceased to produce much rainfall, not unusal at all, but what was unusal was 2 intense thunders that made me get up and go outside to confirm it was thunder, i mean ive never heard thunder in such a way and being 29 and in teh panhandle ive had plenty of exp with thunderstorms, the first was a low constant rumble that increased in loudness. Much longer then most thunders we hear. about 5 mins later and even lower deep rumble started and increased teh same way as teh first but was twice as long, i stood outside and smoked half a cig thru the second one....at first i thought it was bombing on Eglin, but even the MOAB which blew my open window blinds to teh cieling that day didnt carry that much rumble....I dunno maybe some others here live in my area that could confirm that crazy thunder last night.

posted 08-20-2003 06:26 PM            

Whew, that's a relief.

I saw a post somewhere in here regarding someone's computer receiving a bunch of hack attacks from CA.

posted 08-20-2003 10:13 PM               

To answer your question about being hacked - yes, I visited the Gaiacomm website and the critical settings of my programs immediately went crazy (sorry, but I don’t want to reveal my software). There was also an attempt to download a virus. I contacted my digital cable company and am going to have the whole evening traced and reported. Let’s see what they come up with. I haven’t run the log reports yet or studied them the way I want to, but approximately 80% of the critical hits originated in CA. At first they came straight through, then they routed through other servers in the U.S., then eventually through servers in South America and then even Europe. It was an interesting night needless to say. And yeah, it WAY annoyed me so now I will have no mercy with my opinions – at first I gave the Dr. the benefit of the doubt.

What exactly are in the posts that can’t already be found either in a book or on the internet? What was the purpose of citing the articles of the Paris Convention (World Intellectual Property Organization)? I understand a patent is necessary to cover an inventor’s rights, but why was that included in the lesson? Not all countries are party to the Paris Convention, the Hague Convention, or bound by PCT rules. Besides, how is IP knowledge going to help us understand how HAARP and chemtrails are related to the alleged project?

We are all capable of studying any aspect of background knowledge the Dr. lays before us if we do not understand something. I also can copy and paste articles. Dr., if you do not have information to give us, why bother dangling the carrot before our eyes? Why weren’t you prepared to offer something of substance right away? In my opinion YOU are playing mind games. The conquer and divide tactic will probably work on some, but not on the truth seekers. Is that your agenda – to find out who the “difficult” cases are? Why do you use mind-control “trigger” words. Did you think no one would notice or know the difference? Do you even know what hours of the day or night they hit the switch on HAARP? I can tell you.

I do not expect you to answer any of my questions because you have not answered any to date. Do not accuse me of acting out of fear, or that you will settle my mind for me. All aspects of love RULE my life and keep my mind clear. I will be sure to surround myself continuously with the proper energies and colors to stay this way.

OK, enough of that. Guess I let the other night’s aggravation take “control” of me! Mission accomplished, huh? (hee, hee).

Someone I know and trust was a part of the Montauk Experiments (not the author). My friend was "recruited" for specific government mind-control experiments which ended up enhancing many of his natural abilities. The things I have learned from him over the years! I thank God for sending him to my family. This article explains the mechanics of mind-control. Here is the next to the last paragraph of the article:

posted 08-20-2003 10:57 PM            

I've pretty much got your game down and will be content to sit and watch you drag everyone around by the nose until they finally get sick of your crap, like those who fell before them...

time...time...time...

posted 08-20-2003 11:26 PM            

quote:

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Originally posted by gaiacomm:
Honored Members:

I will continue posting information that will lead to answers that are required to get closure. I will not respond to people who suffer from paranoid episodes and enjoy casting stones from the roof and then run and hide like cowards.

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posted 08-20-2003 11:58 PM            

yep...and good call....

so your from the part of florida that KNOWS how to vote !

I certainly won't question your intelligence...

posted 08-21-2003 12:29 AM               

These two sure look like cut and paste to me – besides being duplicate information. Maybe he forgot he quoted the Paris Convention already? If I know anything Dr., its my IP (intellectual property)!

****************************************************************** http://fletcher.tufts.edu/multi/texts/BH004.txt

PLEASE NOTE: Someone forgot to highlight the “U” of U.N.T.S. No. 11851 (sloppy work)

Copied from Ben-Hur’s Post:
N.T.S. No. 11851, vol. 828, pp. 305-388
PARIS CONVENTION
FOR THE PROTECTION OF INDUSTRIAL PROPERTY OF MARCH 20, 1883,
AS REVISED AT BRUSSELS ON DECEMBER 14, 1900,
AT WASHINGTON ON JUNE 2, 1911, AT THE HAGUE ON NOVEMBER 6, 1925,
AT LONDON ON JUNE 2, 1934, AT LISBON ON OCTOBER 31, 1958,
AND AT STOCKHOLM ON JULY 14, 1967
Article 1
(1) The countries to which this Convention applies constitute a Union for
the protection of industrial property.

http://www.bitlaw.com/source/treaties/paris.html
Copied from Ben Hur’s post:
PARIS CONVENTION
FOR THE PROTECTION OF INDUSTRIAL PROPERTY OF MARCH 20, 1883,
AS REVISED AT BRUSSELS ON DECEMBER 14, 1900,
AT WASHINGTON ON JUNE 2, 1911, AT THE HAGUE ON NOVEMBER 6, 1925,
AT LONDON ON JUNE 2, 1934, AT LISBON ON OCTOBER 31, 1958,
AND AT STOCKHOLM ON JULY 14, 1967
U.N.T.S. No. 11851, vol. 828, pp. 305-388
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posted 08-21-2003 12:31 PM            

quote:

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Originally posted by gaiacomm:
I only respond to serious people not cyberjunkies who make fun of others!
Science is serious and not for children!

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You only respond to ppl that dont question your authority that you claim you have on this Haarp subject, Hur no one called you the first damn name until you labeled everyone that questions your authority a coward casting stones and hiding, well were not hiding hur, im right here and will continue posting and reading this forum long after you have been proven a disinformation whore.

Isnt that right Hur, Disinformation leads to misinformation, then the whole process loses crediablitly, Hur you dont change this Gov by proclaiming this crap to a website, actually if you had an ounce of brain you wouldnt even be posting your crap here, you would be in front of a senate sub committe explaining yourself.

So hur quit playing on these ppl's fears and stop this charade, you know its only a matter of time until we dig up the right piece of info on you.

Why dont you tell us your real name cause there seems to be a lack of documented science studies with your name on them.

Seeker, ive already informed everyone i know that i will not be voting again until these electronic voting machines are taken down.

HUR YOU HAVE BEEN TROLLED, JUST LIKE OLE PHX.

Also while im at it, a close relative of mine is a retired NSA intelligence officer, HUR you obviously dont know what your talking about that was very obvious after a 5 min conversation with said relative.

And your still spamming the same post to multiple threads you should be banned for that alone.

You claim that you and you only hold all this technology of destruction is so funny that i cant help but fall out my chair laughing at your claims.

So you gonna keep claiming to be posting all this old info so we can understand, then you'll claim the cease and desist[already have] then what hur, DOS this forum and claim the gov shut it down?

posted 08-21-2003 03:16 PM               

Aww, c'mon man. Whats with the dig at me?

But seriously, Ive really been impressed with the majority of you as of late regarding Ben-Hurs charade. I would have figured that you guys would have latched onto anything this guy threw around. But alot of you have shown a good amount of restraint and clear thinking.

posted 08-21-2003 03:29 PM            

quote:

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Originally posted by gaiacomm:
Excellent!

Game over, you lose!

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you mean your done playing games Hur??

exaclty what did i lose??

Plz inform me with your intellect as to what i lost, the only one here losing anything is you and your creditability.

Hmmm...Hur if you dont respond to your so called delusional person's i sure did strike a chord with you and you did respond which leads us back to the point. You dig your own grave, ill gladly shovel the dirt in the hole once your gone.

Phx....you know you love it, you and kocky are the main reasons the activist forum is passworded, not that i care, i havent apllied for a password, just thought id let you know. whahahaha...also its the same clear thinking that see's thru your attempts to debunk everything sky related.

posted 08-21-2003 03:33 PM               

Oh, Im quite aware of that. No big deal though, Kocky and I are strong enough to let it go.

posted 08-21-2003 03:39 PM            

quote:

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Originally posted by gaiacomm:
Some take advantage of our fears and post comments on virus in your computer, phone taps, Indians in the trees at night, and other paranoid delusions that subliminally affect some of you.

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Are you trying to tell us subliminally that your playing mind games HUR?

Its easy to see.

posted 08-21-2003 03:46 PM               

Now-a-days its more because I'm bored that I hang around here. My duty, huh? *looks in logbook*

But, really, I dont want to get on anyones bad side right now. If you havent noticed, Ive been a little lighthearted in my previous posts. Im not trying to ruin your day, I just want to have a little friendly banter. Just loosen up a tad.

posted 08-21-2003 03:46 PM            

and giacomm's world wide corp. is operating out of a residential dwelling...can't see any antenna though...

I doubt mr. hur will comment...

wild bill strikes again !

http://pub31.ezboard.com/fcontrailsandchemtrails22884frm1.showMessageRange?topicID=1878.topic&start=21&stop=27

I imagine the next pic will be of mr. hur delivering the morning paper...pulling his lil' red wagon...

as with anything...believe it...or not...