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Topic: Dr. Judah Ben-Hur's message to Chemtrail Central Members | Topic page views:
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CONSPIRACY_MAN
Senior Member

Canberra Australia 183 posts, Apr 2003
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posted 08-17-2003 09:52 PM
lulu that number looks more like a ip number for wireless network. not a phone number.
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Mech
Resisting the NWO

Northeast USA 3956 posts, Sep 2002
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posted 08-17-2003 10:12 PM
"Too much Data"Come on!!! What's that all about?
Anytime I get my hands on some hot article or news that doesn't get enough press..I post those puppies far and wide all over the net ASAP. If I had some data that produced incredible implications that could change the world..i'd leak it out instantly before someone stopped me.
Mr Ben Hur doesn't seem to be in a hurry so it must not be that earth shattering (pardon the pun). Just my 2 cents.
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Lulu
ice behaving badly

right here 2459 posts, Dec 2000
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posted 08-17-2003 10:55 PM
Looks like an area code and phone number to me conspiracy Man...310 is for Englewood, CA...ask suckingeggs though, he already talked to him. quote: So I rang Dr Ben Hur and he is a very affable funny guy, still a physicist not an ex one as mentioned by me in the start of this thread. We will have to wait and see what he can provide.
http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/001893-2.html 
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gaiacomm
Senior Member

Los Angeles, California, USA 274 posts, Aug 2003
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posted 08-17-2003 11:07 PM
My phone number is area code 310.213.1997, Los Angeles, California,USA I am extending a greeting to all to let you come in. I am allowing anyone to contact me direct to ease doubt of my sincerity.

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gaiacomm
Senior Member

Los Angeles, California, USA 274 posts, Aug 2003
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posted 08-17-2003 11:08 PM
To all here:Well it seems that I must explain to you all why I have such strong political and religious convictions. First gaiacom is spelled GAIACOMM, which stands for earth communications. I have had the honor to visit many countries on this planet and make many friends some of which are from Islamic faith in Iraq and other countries. Saddam and the USA murdered many during both wars. If any of you have ever lost someone you loved and respected then you can relate. I will not defend my statements made on any other site or any published essay that I have written. I stand by my words completely and without compromise. I have learned to appreciate life but it took time for me to understand. Now I will protect it. It seems very impersonal to write messages to each other until someone takes down the veil and reveals themselves to us all. Allow me to be the first one to remove my cloak and become visible. I wish to stay in one forum out of respect for others that wish it so. As stated by others that they will transpose your comments and questions to the other board for response or you can pick up your phone and dial in and talk to a person. I have nothing to hide, do you?

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the professor
quit your crying, it's not that bad

heartland USA 795 posts, Jan 2003
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posted 08-17-2003 11:18 PM
I'm sure you'll be getting a call from Jay Reynolds.
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gaiacomm
Senior Member

Los Angeles, California, USA 274 posts, Aug 2003
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posted 08-18-2003 10:15 AM
Halva:Anyone that uses secret names like darth vader or dark sheild I would be suspious of. This cloak and dagger stuff are for people who like 007 fantasy or Man from UNCLE worlds. All I know is that in government its like a football league where each team is moving for position to recieve more funding for more projects. The one that gets the most is the leader of the pack. So it is prudent that the right does not know what the left hand is doing! Let me explain again, I have nothing to hide for myself, my name and who I am, my personal phone number and my email address. I am placing myself and my family in arms way by coming forward in time to dispell rumors and speculators as to the HAARP and Chemtrail connections and their relationships and destructive nature, and how to fix the problem. I was part of the problem now I am the solution. Remember that your Senators and President passed the bills needed to fund these projects with your tax dollars and other sources of income. Continue gathering data and exchange with each other to support the foundation that you all have built over the years to open the eyes of many to these crimes against humanity. My flight leaves shortly and I will carry my laptop with me. I will be on a military transport to go back east, so I can have communications in flight. I may not be able to respond as quickly for at least 3 days. 
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gaiacomm
Senior Member

Los Angeles, California, USA 274 posts, Aug 2003
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posted 08-18-2003 10:41 AM
Lulu:Now go to www.gaiacomm.org and read more. The website is back online. Oh yes I stand by my words, period! 
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gaiacomm
Senior Member

Los Angeles, California, USA 274 posts, Aug 2003
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posted 08-18-2003 02:28 PM
If anyone of you would like to know more just pick up the phone and call me at 1.310.213.1997. Or is that too intense? That would spoil the fun! Its too easy! Maybe we all like to hide in cyberspace and pretend. How many of you have exchanged phone numbers to talk? Maybe we need to start trusting. Let me be the first to extend my hand!
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CONSPIRACY_MAN
Senior Member

Canberra Australia 183 posts, Apr 2003
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posted 08-18-2003 06:23 PM
why not just post it on the net the phone is the same government tapped technology. come on out with it i wanna know more!
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gaiacomm
Senior Member

Los Angeles, California, USA 274 posts, Aug 2003
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posted 08-18-2003 11:05 PM
To: All Members and GuestsI can read from the various posts that my presence on this board is not appreciated. And I can understand everyone’s point of view. Sometimes we make mistakes and learn from them. I made a mistake by posting on this board. I am not an authority on chemtrails but I am on HAARP and Gaiacomm and many other related projects. You can see from the selections of data that has been posted that I am a very busy person. Once you convince the CIA, FBI, NSA, DOD, NASA, The White House and many other agencies to give you data on me you might be surprised that I was just trying to help. I gave you all my phone number and encouraged anyone to call. Operations for Gaiacomm will be moving to Jacksonville, Florida and I will be overseeing and building another HAARP system to be demonstrated to the Military and other commercial users. This will be sometime in the early part of next year. Just in time for the re-election campaigns. The Gaiacomm website will be changing in a day or two to reflect staff changes and other info. Funding is complete and we are set. I will propose to demo and bring attention to chemtrails while in Washington next week. As you can see by the various media releases that the US government allows me to ramble on. I appreciate those that took the time to contact me direct and as promised I will expose and educate the public of all of your concerns and I will demand that the chemtrails will cease. I will trade something for that. Then we will present preventive methods to be used while we use our system to rid the atmosphere of these poisons. I will refrain from posting here anymore so as not to offend or confuse anyone. Note: When you have 30 years of secrets it just does not make sense to shotgun info into space. I tried and I will seek another method to get rid of this burden. I wish you all the best and I respect you all! Sincerely, Dr. Judah Ben-Hur

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the professor
quit your crying, it's not that bad

heartland USA 795 posts, Jan 2003
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posted 08-18-2003 11:55 PM
I called the number, you know what I got? a voice mail directory where you had to know an extension for the party your looking for. Anybody could pose they are from a tech corp and write down the corps number. Stringing people along for fun isn't too constructive and even know there are some gullable folks here who fall for almost anything I don't think they've bitten your bait. You've made several posts here claiming to reveal top secretive secrets yet you've said nothing of the sort. Basically if your going to drop a bomb on us then state the point it is your trying to convey. So far you've basically said nothing! I do however notice a writing style and thought process much like sucking eggs. You should take your posts to the science forum where more people that are free to post there would like to engage you more with questions. Myself, you sound like you should be writing science fiction.
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gaiacomm
Senior Member

Los Angeles, California, USA 274 posts, Aug 2003
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posted 08-19-2003 01:00 AM
Wolfwomen:You are right, why should I let a few that like to turn up a little mud in the pond bother me? I usually ask myself in times of intense decisions, What would Jesus do? And because you came forward and said that you understand, and it only takes one! I will do what I can to help this group get answers and corrections to these chemtrails and other manmade mistakes that are affecting us all. And Lorie I know in your heart you mean well, and its ok to be you! A phone number that can be used is on the gaiacomm website. There are allot of sick people that need to be healed and forgiven, I will do my best to help. So I resend my former statement and I will help. Give it some time to unfold. Allot of people are already taking notice, just look at all of the statements and essays I have written! There is a storm coming! ---------------------------------------------------- This mailbox protected from junk email by Matador from MailFrontier, Inc. http://info.mailfrontier.com
----- Original Message ----- From: "wolfwoman454" To: Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 21:36 Subject: Thank you, Dr Ben-Hur > I'm a member of ChemTrailTrackingUSA, but I never post to forums > like that just as a personal preference. However, I believe what > you say and would like to thank you for trying to help them. You > know, with a lot of folks, you are just "casting your pearls before > swine." > > I'd like to apologize for these people's rudeness toward you. > > Sincerely yours, > > Beth > >

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Lulu
ice behaving badly

right here 2459 posts, Dec 2000
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posted 08-19-2003 02:05 AM
quote: I will refrain from posting here anymore so as not to offend or confuse anyone.
For someone so eager to "blow the whistle" and give up his life for Truth, you sure turn and run when confronted, even though you encourage confrontation, Dr. Judah Ben-Hur. You have hung yourself it would seem. It is not appretiated you jerking our chain and wasting our time with deception. I see you have started posting over at Method of Destruction. Wonder how long you will string them along before they are on to your lies?? Thanks for nothing. Press on....

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CONSPIRACY_MAN
Senior Member

Canberra Australia 183 posts, Apr 2003
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posted 08-19-2003 02:11 AM
yeh i never belived him. harrp is not a chemtrail related program. i have alot of infomation on both subjects.

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CONSPIRACY_MAN
Senior Member

Canberra Australia 183 posts, Apr 2003
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posted 08-19-2003 04:36 AM
ahhhh bad news i downloaded that .doc of his website its a trojan or something. i had to close it down with crtl alt delete it was chewing up memory in the background.
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gaiacomm
Senior Member

Los Angeles, California, USA 274 posts, Aug 2003
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posted 08-19-2003 09:10 AM
Pondurega:I appreciate your kind words of support and I will finish what I started and help you all get peace of mind! I spoke with a kind lady on the phone that is part of this group and we had our first date! She is very smart! I gave her some insight on chemtrails and the dumping of "trash" in the upper layers. I also agreed with her to publish a report titled" HAARP for Dummies" to explain the inner workings of the system. I also told her that I have been charged with the responsibility to design and construct another HAARP facility in Florida next year. Phone does work! Regards Dr. Judah Ben-Hur ---------------------------------------------------- This mailbox protected from junk email by Matador from MailFrontier, Inc. http://info.mailfrontier.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Pondurenga Das To: chemtrailtrackingusa@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 23:30 Subject: Re: [Chem Trail Tracking USA] Re: Dr. Judah Ben-Hur's message to Chemtrail Ce... brightnewwings@aol.com wrote:
> Everyone should really pay attention to what Gale is saying. She has > hit the > nail on the proverbial head. The reason I was saying back off the Doc > was so > he could show himself. He has. > > Laura > Please be kind. Bright, rebelious people, both young and old, can become paranoid, delusionary and unstable under the pressure of living in our American culture of greed fear and violence. "Dr. Ben-Hur" clearly has tremendous mental capacities. Just notice how he overwhelmed and dominated our group for a time. Imagine this shining brilliance applied constructively, and release your compassion toward the confused, tormented person who just passed thru our lives like a burning meteor. This man seems to be one of the many good-hearted human beings who are unable to deal effectively with the world into which they were born. I send him my love and my blessings. ChemTrail is a tremendously resilient group. Let us forgive and move on. Love & Blessings, Pondurenga Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.

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gaiacomm
Senior Member

Los Angeles, California, USA 274 posts, Aug 2003
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posted 08-19-2003 10:23 AM
To Members:Lets all break bread together! Lets do this, before I publish my report, "HAARP for Dummies" I ask that one person be the focal point for all to send questions to for me to answer if I can. If I cannot answer I will find the ones that can. If you all can compile your questions and send them to a spokeperson to then send them to me then I will respond. Ask away and for those who wish their answers to be quick, then pick up the phone and dial me direct. Don't be afraid of the dark! Remember it will be a first date this time! I am waiting! Regards, Dr. Judah Ben-Hur

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gaiacomm
Senior Member

Los Angeles, California, USA 274 posts, Aug 2003
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posted 08-19-2003 11:38 AM
Try not redirect people by making statements that are based on emotion and lack of fact. It only leads to confusion and hate. Eastlund is a fine scientist and has almost retired. His son is in charge of the business and they are using de-classified data to build and promote his work. I am still an active member and yes I am on the team to build a new HAARP station. Eastlund is finished. The dummies comment is not directed at anyone, but if you are insecure with your intellect then so be it! Your demands fall upon deaf ears. I will do as I say in my timeframe not yours. Compile your questions and pass it on to the one that will pass it to me. You will not force me to compromise my postion and remember I co-designed HAARP. Your futile attempts to flush me out are to avail. I am in charge of me not you!. I am the one that will publish a report titled: HAARP FOR DUMMIES". It will be for free! And I will take my time until complete. Its the best I can do for the group to help solve these problems. And I suugest you use your energies for peace and harmony than to throw stones. I wonder if you contribute to the chemtrails by flushing solvents down the drain to the ocean to be later absorbed and sprinkle down in the rain on your skin and plants, etc. Ask yourself what do you do for the environment? Or is it easier to point fingers at someone when your own house is on fire!
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gaiacomm
Senior Member

Los Angeles, California, USA 274 posts, Aug 2003
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posted 08-19-2003 12:18 PM
LuLu;I find you quite interesting. After pulling your file on the database I find that you have differnt profiles and can move like a shadow. You expose others and milk both sides. Judging from your background I am surprised that you spend so much time attempting to control this board. You do need to get a better firewall because you are still exposed and your computer needs to be updated with the lastet fixes. hackers can still get inside. Anyway I am not spamming just floating around like you, looking at the various posts you posts around this board. If you were more experienced the CIA could use a double agent like you! 
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gaiacomm
Senior Member

Los Angeles, California, USA 274 posts, Aug 2003
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posted 08-19-2003 02:02 PM
Lulu:After careful research on this board I see that you post in several topics, is that not what I did? Is that spamming or informing or do we need to follow LULU? Or is LULU losing control and LULU should be banned? I am attempting to ad data to help and you seem to wish me to go away because you cannot control me or expose what you desire. I can go someplace else and turn the control back over to you or let the control rest with the people not you. You seem to debunk your own creation, which tells me that your trustfulness is questionable and should be evaluated by the masses. If you wish control you will not get it from me and you will not ban me from the Internet, maybe this board and maybe not! You should have more consideration with your flock. Now to answer another question: Yes I protect the DOD and other agencies because I get paid to. But I have decided to expose with respect the infractions that have been and will be committed against us all. I challenge you LULU and others to call me and put to rest any doubt. If you cannot even do that then your influence on this board should be dissolved and you should banish yourself! Judging by your attitudes and sophomoric responses do you think I would hand you a loaded gun?

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Lulu
ice behaving badly

right here 2459 posts, Dec 2000
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posted 08-19-2003 02:13 PM
I don't post the identiacal post in two or more forums here Dr. Judah Ben-Hur, and I ask you nicely, for you not to do this as well. Post your topic, in just one thread, in one forum, thank you.When will you deliver the goods as promised? Eagerly awaiting.... 
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gaiacomm
Senior Member

Los Angeles, California, USA 274 posts, Aug 2003
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posted 08-19-2003 02:46 PM
LULU:Ok! As for report on HAARP for DUMMIES It will take a week or so to compile, after all I cannot cut and paste it from the internet! By the way I have gotten over 30 calls so far from all of you, Thank you! I see that and over 200 emails to date. Thank you! 
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the professor
quit your crying, it's not that bad

heartland USA 795 posts, Jan 2003
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posted 08-19-2003 06:45 PM
Your phone number is a sham much like your posts that are repeated in other topics.
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CONSPIRACY_MAN
Senior Member

Canberra Australia 183 posts, Apr 2003
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posted 08-19-2003 06:53 PM
nah really i told you guys it doesnt look like a real phone number thats why i diddnt bother calling it.

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