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Topic: Dr. Judah Ben-Hur's message to Chemtrail Central Members | Topic page views:
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gaiacomm
Senior Member
Los Angeles, California, USA
274 posts, Aug 2003
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posted 08-21-2003 03:26 PM
    
Some take advantage of our fears and post comments on virus in your computer, phone taps, Indians in the trees at night, and other paranoid delusions that subliminally affect some of you.
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Mech
Resisting the NWO
Northeast USA
3956 posts, Sep 2002
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posted 08-21-2003 04:47 PM
Uhhhh...BenThose computer Viruses are REAL...not anyones "paranoid delusions". Many people in this forum have been targeted. That is a FACT.
By the way..the Council of 9 has issued you a WARNING not to Re-post articles in seperate threads..that is considered spamming.
[Edited 2 times, lastly by Mech on 08-21-2003]
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gaiacomm
Senior Member
Los Angeles, California, USA
274 posts, Aug 2003
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posted 08-21-2003 05:11 PM
Whatever!
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Mech
Resisting the NWO
Northeast USA
3956 posts, Sep 2002
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posted 08-21-2003 05:49 PM
Well... if you can't abide by the forum rules...more drastic measures will be introduced.It's as simple as that. I don't care if you are a PHD or a 6th grade dropout. The rules apply to everyone posting here.
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gaiacomm
Senior Member
Los Angeles, California, USA
274 posts, Aug 2003
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posted 08-21-2003 05:52 PM
So What!
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gaiacomm
Senior Member
Los Angeles, California, USA
274 posts, Aug 2003
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posted 08-21-2003 05:58 PM
Its obvious that someone is reading this board judging by the number of views at over 1400 in just under a week! Well I will be winding down the prelim documents and will start posting essays on HAARP using original notes, etc. But I wish to make sure that everyone has a subject covered so when we dive into the physics behind magnetics and bio-physics we will understand law and we will have a basic understanding of communications.
For the rest of you that wish to play and mock I will just pass over and continue on and give you no energy!
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Mech
Resisting the NWO
Northeast USA
3956 posts, Sep 2002
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posted 08-21-2003 07:31 PM
Thats fine with us DOCTOR.Post away. Just make sure you follow the rules and while you are at it..show some respect to the board members that have been here longer than you have. One more thing... Did it ever occur to you that people are viewing this thread other than the reasons why YOU think they are viewing it?
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ScaredForTheFuture
Senior Member
Orange County, CA,USA
91 posts, Jan 2003
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posted 08-21-2003 08:06 PM
quote:
Originally posted by gaiacomm:
...Well I will be winding down the prelim documents and will start posting essays on HAARP using original notes, etc. ...
OMG! Shut up and DO IT ALREADY THEN. I'm serious. So far you've only posted to "defend". Why don't you just start posting your "facts" and let us decide what we can or cannot digest? So far I've only read promises and hot air. I'm already bored with it.
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bigjoe
Senior Member
Western New York
131 posts, Dec 2002
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posted 08-21-2003 08:14 PM
I agree. Please stop all the BS, Doc, you're just wasting all of our time. If you have something that may be of value here, then please present it to us NOW. PLEASE... no more BS.
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gaiacomm
Senior Member
Los Angeles, California, USA
274 posts, Aug 2003
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posted 08-21-2003 10:07 PM
Did it ever occur to you that people are viewing this thread other than the reasons why YOU think they are viewing it?yes!
I'm serious. So far you've only posted to "defend". yes I have! Doc, you're just wasting all of our time. If you have something that may be of value here, then please present it to us NOW. PLEASE... no more BS. Only wasting the time of those who wish it so!
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halva
Senior Member
Greece
477 posts, Dec 2002
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posted 08-21-2003 10:18 PM
So far I see no evidence that Dr Judah Ben Hur is wasting our time more than the majority of posters. What is distinctive about him is the expectations he initially aroused. Some are growing impatient because they feel they are not being fulfilled. Think a little bit about this. What do we do with any information we may be provided with here? The idea of taking it to the United Nations is laughable. Mobilisation has to start much lower down, perhaps at the level of local government. Dr Ben Hur can't help in this. All he can do is give us information, if he has it. It would be good for it to be as brief and succinct as possible.
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gaiacomm
Senior Member
Los Angeles, California, USA
274 posts, Aug 2003
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posted 08-21-2003 10:34 PM
Asked him a question concerning the spikes in the HAARP magnetometer on Aug 14, and the fact that they were coordinated with the time of blackout (4 PM EST). So far, no answer................................................... HAARP had nothing to do with the blackout back east. As a matter of fact you should be more concerned with what HAARP is doing now by altering the jet stream for purposes of over the horizon communications. The magnetometer readings you speak of if they were public would record fluctuations in the magnetosphere because of the permutations that are being created by the heating and cooling of the upper layers, which is causing a slight shift in the geomagnetic field alignment.
When you inject joules of energy into the biosphere it reacts by attempting to compensate for the variation in electron flow, i.e. Compton effect, and reattaches and reforms new structures of energy particles. These particles are then absorbed into the hierarchy of elements that make up the various layers and the results are mutated particles of matter, which in turn disrupts the eco-systematic structure that controls the dynamics of the earth’s bio-engine.
To get better results and more control over the geomagnetic field the antenna array must be modified to a Isotropic antenna array and the power output can be reduced to less than 600 Kilowatts, that is because the magnetic field of the earth will be used as an additional amplifier to boost the signal output. What you get is the use of the earth’s natural waveguide properties to respond as a transponder but globally, thus allowing HAARP to control all communication on band specific frequencies and to alter the atmosphere to control weather patterns selectively and remotely to isolate an area at will to control its environment.
The United Nations is aware of HAARP!
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halva
Senior Member
Greece
477 posts, Dec 2002
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posted 08-21-2003 11:31 PM
Although this is considered spamming, I am going to put this message in CT Science too, so that it can be read by those who can't access the chemtrails forum.The climate is becoming so nasty in the Judah Ben Hur threads that I am going to make the following proposal to the Council. Firstly that Judah Ben Hur's postings be readable on this site only in a thread to which Council members and Council members only have access. If there are any other people here who want to read him, Dr Judah Ben Hur will be asked to provide a URL where he will post the information that he would have posted here for Council and non-Council members alike. This will satisfy the demand of those who wish to get rid of him from CTC. He will be no longer visible here except to Council members, who will of course be under no obligation to read his postings.
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Ellyn
Senior Member
738 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 08-22-2003 03:32 AM
I have been looking at Dr. Ben-Hur's material. If he is going to continue posting to this board, I would like to have the opportunity to continue reading his posts.A separate URL address, however, would also seem reasonable due to the shere volume of material being presented.
[Edited 2 times, lastly by Ellyn on 08-22-2003]
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dmeskauskas
New Member
crockett,ca. USA
4 posts, Aug 2003
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posted 08-22-2003 04:27 AM
This man has stated how, when, & under what conditions He is willing to distribute
His information. I have spent a lot more time reading posts in the past 5 years that have produced far less tangible facts.
All that has been said on the CT subject in the physics dept. has been on the mark and I can see where He is going with the 600kw. min input thus utilizing the potentials in nature to efficiently operate
the antennae array.Sure would enjoy getting this stuff spoon fed as We should all be.Who knows it could arm Us with the foundation We have all , at one time or another, needed in conveying Our CT message to sheeple & disbelievers.
[Edited 1 times, lastly by dmeskauskas on 08-22-2003]
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suckingeggs
Senior Member
283 posts, Mar 2003
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posted 08-22-2003 04:53 AM
quote:
Originally posted by halva:
So far I see no evidence that Dr Judah Ben Hur is wasting our time more than the majority of posters.
Do you not think halva, that someone who is being honest and truthful would not need to fake an NSA e mail with all the typos, whos house is the business address and who was dsummoned to a meeting but never went etc?Come on Dan Thomas own up, you have had your 15 mins.
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halva
Senior Member
Greece
477 posts, Dec 2002
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posted 08-22-2003 08:30 AM
There are degrees of eccentricity and phoniness. I would like of course to see your questions answered, Mark. But I don't want to be bulldozed either by you or (of course) by debunkers and enemies into removing this man (prematurely) from CTC.
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gaiacomm
Senior Member
Los Angeles, California, USA
274 posts, Aug 2003
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posted 08-22-2003 10:48 AM
Sukingeggs:For someone who picked up the phone and contacted me from the UK to ask some questions and I answered them and you never posted them for all to see is quite interesting. The energy and time everyone spends attempting to discredit me should be used to gather more data and hard evidence to expose and educate the general public at large. Making statements and accusations will only cause more confusion. I came in this board to post what I think is relative info on what I know and only what I know. I never will claim to have all the answers. Now I guess it is odd to have an email from NSA placed on this website and I guess I should not have done it because its never been done before. And I guess someone was with me on my trip back east and was able to say that I did not go. And the Initial address to Gaiacomm Corporation was a home address while we were seeking a location, which we found, and the State of California is slow in making updated changes. But we have closed shop and will be moving to Florida.
Poking fun of misspelled words and sentence structure is a waste of time and demonstrates to me that someone is not really interested in facts just making slanderous remarks.
If I am banned from this board so be it, at least I tried. And judging from what you know already I will resurface someplace else and continue my journey.
I respect each and every one of you good or bad because after all we our god’s creation and we are stuck on this tiny planet together and none of us can get off.
Now, I will continue broadcasting until the signal is dropped!
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gaiacomm
Senior Member
Los Angeles, California, USA
274 posts, Aug 2003
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posted 08-22-2003 11:21 AM
To: Honored Council and MembersI have no doubt caused some speculations and doubt as to the authenticity of my experience and background. I cannot convince those who do not really wish to know.
I feel that if the council and members appoint one person to channel reasonable questions to me I then can answer them within a reasonable period of time thus refocusing the attention on the subject at hand. This would eventually eliminate debunkers and stone throwers. It also will get answers to questions that are relative to this board on HAARP and Chemtrails. Right now we are wasting precious time in playing ping-pong with messages.
The questions should be filtered by you all and then presented to me for answers. You should start a new thread that is dedicated to those questions and answers only thus eliminating the negative comments and other misleading statements. It also will eliminate voluminous info being posted on your space.
I will wait for your decision before I post any more information. I do not wish to waste anyone’s time or feed egos of ignorance.
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Catnip57
Senior Member
Central Washington
408 posts, Apr 2001
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posted 08-22-2003 01:31 PM
Quote:I have been looking at Dr. Ben-Hur's material. If he is going to continue posting to this board, I would like to have the opportunity to continue reading his posts.
A separate URL address, however, would also seem reasonable due to the shere volume of material being presented.I have to say that I agree with Ellyn on this one. I don't want the information that Dr. Judah is posting to be seen only by the council members. That in my opinion defeats the purpose of this forum. I've been here too long at this forum as I'm sure others have too... we don't want to be left out!
[Edited 1 times, lastly by Catnip57 on 08-23-2003]
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halva
Senior Member
Greece
477 posts, Dec 2002
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posted 08-22-2003 02:45 PM
Well, there hasn't been much in the way of response to my proposal in the Council anyway.I think whatever decision we take or don't take here it would be a good move for Dr JBH
to post at a site of his own so that he can do his own moderating. The problem here is that at the open forums where there are debunkers, the level of discussion is atrocious. Even here in the Chemtrails forum, where there are supposed not to be debunkers, people are losing their cool. On the other hand restricting debate to the Council is an idea that some here object to, and not even the Council is responding to, so far.
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gaiacomm
Senior Member
Los Angeles, California, USA
274 posts, Aug 2003
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posted 08-22-2003 04:46 PM
Group:I will be posting a HAARP course section to answer all questions and remove all doubt.
The new website with current changes is now up at www.gaiacomm.org
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gaiacomm
Senior Member
Los Angeles, California, USA
274 posts, Aug 2003
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posted 08-22-2003 10:45 PM
Out of all fairness, I would like to start the HAARP essay with three, (3) intelligent questions that are relative to HAARP. I will use them as my intro into the body of my text. So I am asking someone here to present three questions so we can get some closure and hush the bashers from bashing and build confidence with me and others that will follow. If I have offended anyone, I wish to apologize. If my opinions are too radical, I do not apologize. I stand by my words and actions and I respect everyone here on this board no matter what is written. Therefore, I respectfully await the three questions!
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gaiacomm
Senior Member
Los Angeles, California, USA
274 posts, Aug 2003
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posted 08-22-2003 11:06 PM
GAIACOMM; Hope you will answer this question now. In the event the news you have to relate is detrimental to the well being of man and all of earth, is there anything we as individuals can do to halt these projects? Do you foresee, those perpetrating these things, HAARP and Chemtrails owning up to it and going public???The information that I am attempting to release will expose the guilty and exonerate those that were falsely accused and imprisoned or silenced.
We the public outnumber the few that control us all and as long as we can put our fears on hold and sacrifice certain privileges we will prevail! The information that I will present will not jeopardize any of the innocent that has no knowledge of HAARP. It will only re-enforce what has been speculated and commented on for decades. At this stage there is nothing that can be done by individuals not directly involved with such projects.
As I stated before the only proof that anyone will have will be a HAARP unit at close range not protected by military forces.
The only way to expose in this arena is to educate, inform and then hardware!
I am waiting for three questions to continue. Thank you for sharing your concerns.
[Edited 2 times, lastly by gaiacomm on 08-22-2003]
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halva
Senior Member
Greece
477 posts, Dec 2002
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posted 08-23-2003 09:43 AM
I'm afraid I don't see anything other than business as usual at Gaiacom.This technology can't be used for any liberating purpose, any more than nuclear weapons could be. I don't see any evidence yet that Dr. JBH is preparing an alternative site to host the information he wants to put up.
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