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Ellyn
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738 posts, Jul 2000

posted 08-15-2003 11:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ellyn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I emailed Dr. Judah Ben-Hur (who formerly worked on the HAARP project) and asked him if he would mind posting on the Chemtrail Central site. Dr. Ben-Hur returned my email and said he had attempted to register, but did not get his password, so he sent me this post to forward on to the members.

See suckingeggs' 8/13 post under the topic: "New HAARP Whistleblower" and the continuing thread, for information on Dr. Ben-Hur's comments about HAARP and chemtrails.

To this group:

I am honored to be included in the discussions on the subject HAARP. You no
doubt will read that I have turned not against the established order, but have
decided to put to rest the speculations and hard evidence to the actual use
and design of HAARP and its relation to chemtrails and other electromagnetic
systems.

I do not mind the poking at me or any other negative comments that will arise from my few posts or any other cut and pasted data on me or gaiacomm and its technology. I am a very serious person and scientist and over the years I have watched and read media on all of the subjects posted on this site. I will expose and demo only in the areas that I am qualified to do. The info that I will present will of course be broadcasted to the media internationally to insure no "blackout" of data.

I am in the process of preparing a report to publish on the net followed by a demo of a protable HAARP system. Many people will be emabarrased and afraid when I go public,
but I figure that it's time you people find the truth and let's see what you do with this power!

Regards,
Dr. Judah Ben-Hur
note: the website (www.gaiacomm.org) should be up in 48 hours or sooner, if not I will inform.



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Lulu
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posted 08-16-2003 12:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lulu   Email Lulu   Visit Lulu's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for posting this ellyn!

>>Dr. Ben-Hur returned my email and said he had attempted to register, but did not get his password, so he sent me this post to forward on to the members.<<

That is odd. Is Dr. Ben-Hur sure he gave the right e-mail adress? This is the only reason I can think of for him not getting his password. Please ask him to try registering again, thanks.

Edited to add~ it appears the gaiacomm is a registered member. Perhaps there has been a delay in sending his password?? Weird, but I will bring this to Thermit's attention...

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Ellyn
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738 posts, Jul 2000

posted 08-16-2003 01:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ellyn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Lulu.

If you need to email Dr. Ben-Hur, he can be reached at gaiacomm@att.net .

Ellyn

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suckingeggs
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283 posts, Mar 2003

posted 08-16-2003 04:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for suckingeggs   Visit suckingeggs's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good idea Ellyn,

I guess he has been monitoring the board, now if the usual suspects leave him alone and don't drive him out we may learn something of value...ever hopeful.

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gaiacomm
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Los Angeles, California, USA
274 posts, Aug 2003

posted 08-16-2003 12:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for gaiacomm   Email gaiacomm   Visit gaiacomm's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Readers:

I appreciate the opportunity to post on this impressive forum site and I will no doubt disclose information that will alram some associates of mine at NSA but I have taken steps to curtail their efforts. What you all must ask yourselves is this question? A Physicist with former Top Secret clearance and access to all classified data and is one grandfather to project HAARP and other arcane technolgies. Has developed parts of WMD and other destructive systems, has developed the nations new military communications systems which will be adopted in a couple of years, and has decided to go public at the risk of having this website shutdown because of national security issues. So before I begin to disclose what I know please everyone this: ask yourselves do you wish to wander around in half truth or do you wish to know the "matrix"? This is serious business and I wish you all to know that be careful what you wish for.
The monitors that monitor sites like these amuse themselves with the varied disscussions about UFO's, chemtrails, haarp, crop circles, etc and then allow tidbits of data to satisfy some questions and keep people guessing.
Its easy for some of you to say, go ahead and give us the info without first knowing that you will not be in Kansas anymore!
So I am putting this board on notice to inform that I will present information that will confirm and scare many of you into submission dismay many and create absolute fear in the rest.
I wish my children to know the truth before my death so they will not waste their time posting on boards that go nowhere and always wondering if we are not alone or is this planet being destroyed by a few!
Please let me know yes or no to what I am about to do!

Regards,
Dr. Judah Ben-Hur

[Edited 2 times, lastly by gaiacomm on 08-16-2003]

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Ellyn
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738 posts, Jul 2000

posted 08-16-2003 05:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ellyn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dr. Ben-Hur, I would like you to present your information. Is there any particular way you would like to be contacted, besides postings on the board, by the other members on this board?

Ellyn

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Deborah
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600 posts, Jul 2000

posted 08-16-2003 07:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Deborah     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am curious. Please post your information.

Thank you,
Deborah

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Catnip57
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408 posts, Apr 2001

posted 08-16-2003 07:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catnip57     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think the public deserves to know the truth... it's about time really. After all we're not children and if there's something bad coming down the pike I prefer to at least have some idea of what it is.

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gaiacomm
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Los Angeles, California, USA
274 posts, Aug 2003

posted 08-16-2003 09:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for gaiacomm   Email gaiacomm   Visit gaiacomm's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
To Members:

I am pleased to be able to be in the company of such great collective minds that wish to know what really happens in OZ. I am humbled by the group of researchers that have dedicated many countless hours to the exposure and explanation of phenomena that is greatly manmade and in some cases created naturally induced by scientific influence.
I am sifting thru pages of data to extract the best of all worlds to present an unbiased view backed by facts on many of your concerns related to HAARP and chemtrails.
As stated in other posts the disclosure of the data that I will present will overstep the boundaries of National Security and expose corporations and individuals that will become quite angry. In addition this website most likely will be pulled from the net and any other network that carries my messages of exposure. As for myself I have no worries because I am part of the problem and solution and unfortunately I cannot be made to disappear. Sometimes knowledge does guarantee power if properly managed.
So for the last time I want to be clear of the ramifications that will occur once I open Pandora’s box.
Some of you know that it was only a matter of time for someone like myself to come forward and deliver what you have been demanding for decades.

For those who wish to contact me by email that would be gaiacomm@att.net, to those who wish to contact me by wireless communications that would be 310.213.1997.
I am very serious of what I am about to do. In a few weeks I will be prepared to come forward and pay my dues to humanity and science. I also hope and pray that some if not all of you can find some place in your hearts to understand and forgive those involved that were ignorant of their ignorance and vanquish those that were not!
The website is still offline for the moment, but you can get a comprehensive view of gaiacomm if you use google as the search engine.
Let the games begin!

Regards,
Dr. Judah Ben-Hur

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Lulu
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posted 08-16-2003 10:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lulu   Email Lulu   Visit Lulu's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
>>In addition this website most likely will be pulled from the net and any other network that carries my messages of exposure.<<

I highly doubt that CTC will be pulled from the net! I am anxiously awaiting what you have to disclose Dr. Judah Ben-Hur Please post your information here for all the members to read....thanks!

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CONSPIRACY_MAN
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183 posts, Apr 2003

posted 08-17-2003 12:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CONSPIRACY_MAN   Visit CONSPIRACY_MAN's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i was wondering what university the doc Graduated at? please be creative ;0)

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gaiacomm
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Los Angeles, California, USA
274 posts, Aug 2003

posted 08-17-2003 12:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for gaiacomm   Email gaiacomm   Visit gaiacomm's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
JP:
Yes you are correct, Criminal charges could be filed against me for disclosing classified information to the general public, but then if I don't who will?
I appreciate the offer for your help, but I also have friends in places other than Washington that can help. You see with information it is a double edge sword. Sometimes its best to disclose some than all to protect those against anarchy. What most likely will happen will be this website will go offline until further notice to prevent me from using this as a "pipe" to leak information to the general public. By the time I do what I do, the info will be out. They have their hands full with Iraq at this time and they think that I would not dare stir up public unrest by disclosing guarded secrets, even if they are only a few.
Yes I may go to prison for trumped up charges of treason, but it only will seem that way! Remember I know where the queen bee is in the hive!

Regards,
Dr. Judah Ben-Hur

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gaiacomm
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Los Angeles, California, USA
274 posts, Aug 2003

posted 08-17-2003 10:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for gaiacomm   Email gaiacomm   Visit gaiacomm's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Magnu:

You are absolutely correct. The RICO ACT applies to only those that are at the bottom or near bottom of the social food chain and in this case would not apply to me because of 30 years of service to various organizations globally that have prostitituted my technology for personal wealth and power to control. And of my associations and affililations globally. Note: I stand corrected on a statement of the website being brought down; only my posts and responses would be directly affected. As stated earlier I have come to terms with myself and do not wish for history to record me as a destroyer of worlds, a patsy for the US government, a cold snitch, a Physicist who did not obey the laws of Nature and a father whom lied to his family to protect a few.
At this moment I have received a note from authorities to cease and desist from disclosure of classified information. I am in the process of responding.
The battle begins, may God have mercy on their souls!

Regards,
Dr. Judah Ben-Hur

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Lulu
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posted 08-17-2003 10:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lulu   Email Lulu   Visit Lulu's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What kind of a note? handwritten, e-mail? can you scan and post it/upload? and who are JP and Magnu?

A member here, Wolf Larson, is asking a few questions regarding HAARP in the CT Science forum, in case you didn't notice Dr. http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/ubb/Forum14/HTML/000066.html

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gaiacomm
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274 posts, Aug 2003

posted 08-17-2003 11:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for gaiacomm   Email gaiacomm   Visit gaiacomm's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lulu;

Yes I did notice and i did reply.
I will post the note as soon as I clear it!

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gaiacomm
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274 posts, Aug 2003

posted 08-17-2003 11:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for gaiacomm   Email gaiacomm   Visit gaiacomm's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Magnetic Booster

To whom it may concern:

Listed below are lab notes that are not in any order to explain Maxwell’s understanding of the Aether and its relationship to Ionsopheric principles, Magnetic anomalies and the way to capture and construct equipment to transmit and receive data signals at any rates known to science. The math has been eliminated to allow the reader to read the words and draw pictures in your mind to see what I and so many others in the past have seen but were afraid to write about and do until now by me the writer. I do not expect the reader to fully comprehend this new science but I ask the chance for the reader to try, to think outside the circle and you will see what I saw.

Let us begin the journey to understanding:

The propagation of electromagnetic waves has some unusual properties in the sense that the wavelength is comparable with the earth’s radius. Global electromagnetic resonance’s may then appear when the frequency is equal to the natural frequency of the resonator formed by the spherical cavity between the earth and the ionosphere.
The electrical conductivity of air is very low at low altitudes. However, it increases rapidly with distance from the earth’s surface and is found to be greater by a factor of several million by the time altitudes of a few tens of kilometers are reached and you reach the beginning layer of the ionosphere. The lower atmosphere is a thin dielectric bounded by good conductors. This defines a spherical wave-guide. In which radio waves belonging to different frequency bands can propagate. The upper frequency limit of the wave-guide channel is determined by the dispersive properties of the ionosphere, which eventually becomes transparent as the frequency is increased at a few megahertz.

There is no lower frequency limit or high frequency limit. The earth ionosphere wave-guide can support the propagation of radio waves of frequencies as low or as high as desired, even down to dc current if needed. The absence of a lower critical frequency can readily be understood by recalling that the wave-guide has no lateral boundaries so that a constant potential difference may exist across it. A dc potential difference of natural origin does in fact exist. There is a charging and discharging of the spherical capacitor formed by the earth and the ionosphere.

The boundaries of the earth ionosphere resonator have a very simple configuration if understood. The earth’s surface is uneven and its electrical parameters are functions of position and are often not constant within the depth of the skin layer. The ionosphere on the other hand is a magneto ionic multicomponent plasma that is inhomogeneous both in the vertical and horizontal direction.

Electromagnetic waves of extremely low frequency can be excited in the earth ionospheric cavity by two types of natural sources, terrestrial and cosmic, and now the third is now by mechanical means.
Spectral processing of ELF and Terahertz signals was performed by a digital processor and by analogue filtration systems. The process to isolate and record for both took quite a bit of time to process. I accumulated long records. I will discuss the ELF portion using digital processing: The synchronously reproduced signals were applied to the two channels of the spectral analyzer. Filters were used in each channel to isolate frequency components, which were received, by the phase detector and the multiplier. One of the channels was provided with a variable phase shifter. The signal at the output of the phase detector is proportional to the phase of the cross spectrum and controls the phase shifter so to reduce the phase shift to zero. The position of the phase shifter rotor gives the phase of the cross spectrum corresponding to the given spectral components. Signals with equal phases are then received by the multiplier and integrated. The output of the integrator is proportional to the modulus of the cross spectrum at the same frequency. Scanning along the frequency axis was achieved by discrete switching of the heterodyne oscillator. The power spectrum was recorded at the output when the inputs were connected in parallel.
All the same accept in an analogue mode was used for the very high-end frequency in the terahertz range.
ELF radio communications has a very low attenuation and the high signal stability is achieved during the propagation in the earth’s ionospheric wave-guide. The large skin layer depth means that radio communications can be established with targets not merely on the earth’s surface but also at various depths below it.
The output power of the transmitter must be increased to maintain radio communications at any depth, high or very low. The frequency dependence of attenuation in the earth ionosphere wave guide channel is known and will not be disclosed in this paper which if known then you can choose the optimum wavelength and the other parameters of the radio communications link.

Rather than continue to further explain I recommend that the reader reference patents of Nikola Tesla to further understand the hardware equipment that will be used to transmit and receive radio signals at 1-29 hertz and 1-29 terahertz and the method of use. The patents of Tesla have been modified to current technology of today in principle. If after reviewing all the this data including the above written data if the reader still does not have a clear understanding then it is clear that the reader does not have the ability to think outside the circle and will always remain inside the circle and wonder.

The above-mentioned equipment is what makes up the equipment needed to build a global wireless communications system. First I would read my White Paper, titled “The Art of Global Wireless Communications” to introduce you to the system and for what purpose it will be used.

Tesla patents: #645,576, System of transmission of electrical energy, patented March 20, 1900. #649,621, Apparatus for transmission of electrical energy, patented May 15, 1900, #1,119,732 Apparatus for transmission of electrical energy, patented December 1, 1914.

Regards,
Dr.Judah Ben-Hur
Physicist

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posted 08-17-2003 11:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lulu   Email Lulu   Visit Lulu's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, I noticed your reply Dr. Judah Ben-Hur, and frankly, I think it is a cop out. A scientist, eager to "blow the whistle", yet refusing to post in a CT Science forum...mighty strange indeed!

>>I will post the note as soon as I clear it!<<

Clear it with whom?

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gaiacomm
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Los Angeles, California, USA
274 posts, Aug 2003

posted 08-17-2003 02:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for gaiacomm   Email gaiacomm   Visit gaiacomm's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lulu;

With all due respect I do not need to clear with anyone just that sometimes too much data to fast can be overwhelming even for someone as intelligent as yourself. Please wait a bit more you will get what you ask.

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gaiacomm
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Los Angeles, California, USA
274 posts, Aug 2003

posted 08-17-2003 02:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for gaiacomm   Email gaiacomm   Visit gaiacomm's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
To Members:

I will attempt to put into simple terms a very complex system of technologies.
First I would like to thank those of you that were not afraid to contact me by wireless phone to introduce yourselves and engage in conversation that was very enlightening for myself. I can tell that there still exists intelligence in this universe after speaking to you few. I encourage the rest to attempt to cut threw the typing and go direct, I won’t bite!
HAARP was originally designed from early patents now expired from N. Tesla. Its intent was to better communicate with subsurface submarines long-range and surface craft and in flight. This new communications technology would better provide our military with stealth wireless gear. Just recently has this technology been modified to be used as a communications system in a few years for ratepayers like us? The other use of HAARP is for weather modification and as a weapon to incinerate sections of the atmosphere by heating particles to the point of a controlled burn, killing and destroying everything to below 400 ft below surface, period. 10,000 plus degrees in seconds over thousands of sq surface miles, jamming communications and destroying the communication infrasrture of whales and dolphins and other animals that use the “band”. A perfect sonar system with no regard to any organism.
Energy required to carry out some global effects would be around 1 billion watts of pulsed/modulated power.

I have the original designs for HAARP with modifications to produce a portable system to be used to disrupt selected systems worldwide or on a case-by-case nature. In other words I can set up shop in California and destroy New York in less than 10 seconds with intense heat.
Please understand that this is no game anymore, I have passed the point of no return and yet you all can sit comfortably in your rooms and post without fear of reprisal and punishment. I am on your side and intend to do as I say, period, with your support or without. The truth is so much easier than lies and yes I have developed technology that murdered innocent people and I am tired of being used as a prostitute. These forums just happen to be in the way when I decided to go public. So it seems that this forum truly will release the truth.
I will provide links to files after I return from Virginia. I have been called to explain myself.

Regards,
Dr. Judah Ben-Hur

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gaiacomm
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274 posts, Aug 2003

posted 08-17-2003 04:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for gaiacomm   Email gaiacomm   Visit gaiacomm's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
suckeneggs:

Yes we all put our lives at risk!
Let me state for the record that I do not deal in false promise!
I will be gone for two days for conference for my actions, but my phone is on if you wish to talk with me.
Also my findings will eventually make it to a book which will not be for sale but for free!
There are no links to classifed data. What is on the net is on the net, what is locked up is locked up and only a few have access, I being one for now!

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CONSPIRACY_MAN
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posted 08-17-2003 07:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CONSPIRACY_MAN   Visit CONSPIRACY_MAN's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
look lulu i wouldnt belive this trash.
i know more about the harrp program then he does.
how many scientists or doctors do you know of that pray for god?
also a Doctor that went to university can write his letters better then that and doesnt use explamation marks to over sensisationalize his letters thats called bad formatting in univeristy.
i dont belive you guys are acctuly fallen for this crap dont make your self look like fools.

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the professor
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posted 08-17-2003 08:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for the professor   Visit the professor's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Likewise, I believe this guy to be a story teller. NSA would never allow it if it were true, not under national defense secrets.

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gaiacomm
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274 posts, Aug 2003

posted 08-17-2003 09:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for gaiacomm   Email gaiacomm   Visit gaiacomm's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, you both are correct in your statements. Nsa would never allow this to happen, or would they? First off you two do not walk in my shoes and have no idea what lies in the land of OZ. As long as you live in cyberspace and use your masks you can always make statements based on ego and uncertain fear of the unknown. So post away, that is your right, but stay clear of others who wish to know!Or just pick up phone and call me if you dare!


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CONSPIRACY_MAN
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posted 08-17-2003 09:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CONSPIRACY_MAN   Visit CONSPIRACY_MAN's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ok ill pick up the phone.
private message your phone number to me.

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posted 08-17-2003 09:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lulu   Email Lulu   Visit Lulu's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
His phone number is posted right here in this thread Conspiracy Man...

quote:
For those who wish to contact me by email that would be gaiacomm@att.net, to those who wish to contact me by wireless communications that would be 310.213.1997

Dr. Judah Ben-Hur states ~

quote:
With all due respect I do not need to clear with anyone just that sometimes too much data to fast can be overwhelming even for someone as intelligent as yourself. Please wait a bit more you will get what you ask.

I can assure you Dr. that my brain will not be overwhelmed. How long is "a bit"? Please be specific on the time frame, thanks.


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