posted 09-12-2003 06:28 PM
The faux nuclear scientist/inspector David Kay has been consumed with 2 overriding passions:1) Begging the United States to topple Saddam and it's necessary ancillary objective 2) Bailing out the Bush family when their lies ,like little chicks, come home to roost. In 1991 Kay made a general ass of himself whilst posing as a nuclear inspector in Iraq. His MO: Conduct media driven publicity stunts to provoke Saddam into taking harsh, retaliatory measures . Kay admits hustling Spooks from all over the world to spy on the Iraqi dictator. Kay also" discovered" mountains of documents implicating Hussein in all manner and forms of evil. Have a familiar ring to today's headlines? Do you remember the Pentagon's now ironic PR slogan: Iraqi WMD :" A History of Denial and Deception." ? http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/library/news/iraq/2002/iraq-021008-dod01.htm They directly stole that from Kay's "famous" article: "Denial and Deception Practices of WMD Proliferators : Iraq and Beyond" (Washington Quarterly Winter 1995) Knowing full well that there was nothing in Iraq remotely resembling a real WMD programme, Kay has resorted to a desperate fallback position,ie; the real danger comes from the technical expertise of Iraqi scientists. Does Kay want these men to commit suicide so they can can relieve his "worry"? He is also going to make the case that many of Iraq's factorys are WMD facilities in disguise. I guess Kay wants the Iraqis to destroy what's left of their economy to prevent him from experiencing sleepless nights. Bribed up to the teeth, Iraqi scientists will "verify" Kay's amazing plan of "denial and deception". Make no mistake where Kay is coming from. Until last October he was VP for the CIA/DOD megacontracter , SAIC. SAIC is making a small killing rebuilding the "New Iraq". SAIC employed Wolfowitz's "Government in Exile" until the people of Iraq,once again, got saddled with these embezzlers,liars and looters. Kay has had a long time to envisage his dreams of what he thought Saddam might be up to. Read the first question and his subsequent response made during his presentation to his buddies at JINSA in 1997: http://www.jinsa.org/articles/print.html?documentid=344 Kay has apparently turned Iraq into his field of dreams. His 1997 "premonition" is in exact accord to what he will soon report to the nation; http://www.suntimes.com/output/novak/cst-edt-novak10.html In fact, David was made privy to TOP SECRET "Iraqi Missile blueprints" supposedly "discovered" by British officers after the fall of Saddam. The Daily Telegraph(aka;MI5/MI6 News) hailed the find as the much sought after "Smoking Gun" . http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2003/05/25/wirq125.xml Who would doubt the veracity of Lord Conrad Black's Daily Telegraph? David Kay and his cohort, Richard Perle, are now making noises that real WMD will be found VERY SOON. I can't wait.
David Kay : Raiders of the lost WMD!
Here we are, going on 2 years after 9-11, months into the invasion of Iraq, and nobody, not the US Army, not the UN inspectors, not Hans Blix, not Scott Ritter, NOBODY, has actually found any of the weapons of mass destruction Bush insisted Iraq owned and the threat of which was the justification to invade Iraq and steal it from the Iraqi people.
Yes, there were some items found that were claimed to be weapons of mass destruction, like the "chemical weapons" that turned out to be ordinary pesticide, or the supposed mobile bioweapons labs that turned out to be weather balloon support trailers Great Britain had sold to Iraq some years back. There were those aluminum tubes claimed to be part of a uranium enrichment system that turned out to be rather conventional components of rather conventional and legal) missile systems. There were those few bits and pieces from a gas centrifuge saved by a scientist, and buried under a rose bush, but all those few components proved was that the actual gas centrifuge facility (normally several hundred acres of plumbing) had in fact been dismantled and never rebuilt.
The bottom line is that if Saddam Hussein had possessed any weapons of mass destruction, he would have used them to halt the US invasion of his country. That is, after all, what such weapons are used for, to deter and if need be halt an invasion by an enemy bent on conquest. At the time when Iraq fell to the invaders, Saddam would have had no reason NOT to use such weapons, had he possessed them. The conclusion is inescapable: the fact that Saddam did not use weapons of mass destruction on the invading enemy, coupled with the failure of that enemy to find any weapons of mass destruction either before or after the invasion, makes a solid case that Iraq did not in fact have the weapons of mass destruction cited as the "need" for the invasion. They just were not there.
The absence of weapons of mass destruction is a severe political handicap for the President, especially as he prepares to expand the conquests of Afghanistan and Iraq into Saudi Arabia, Iran, U.A.E., etc. Americans do not like to think of themselves as invaders, conquering other people's lands and pillaging the wealth to be found there. Americans like to think of themselves as the good guys, and good guys don't do to other people's countries what the US has done to Afghanistan and Iraq, march in under force of arms to conquer with no other reason than greed and lust for power and blood.
More to the point, good guys don't vote for Presidents who lie to them, in order to trick the nation into doing what the US has done to Afghanistan and Iraq, march in under force of arms to conquer with no other reason than greed and lust for power and blood. That's a severe problem for Bush heading into an election year. Americans don't vote for known liars, and although Bush might prop up the economy by dumping more fiat paper on the streets, and even with the help of Diebold, the failure to find those much promised weapons of mass destruction in Iraq is an election-killer. Bush 43 is looking like a one termer, just like Bush 41. Unless the weapons suddenly, unexpectedly, dare we say "miraculously", turn up.
Which brings us to David Kay.
David Kay has been sent to Iraq by President Bush to find weapons of mass destruction. David Kay has the job only because Dr. Kelly, originally tapped to head the new weapons inspection team, was "suicided".
Actually, in a Freudian slip from last July, Bush substituted "we will bring the weapons" for "we will find the weapons" while answering a press question on the long-overdue Iraqi WMDs. From this, it would appear that David Kay's mission to find weapons of mass destruction in Iraq is not likely to be impacted by whether or not such weapons are actually there. Already David Kay is leaking claims that he has found numerous weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, although for some reason he cannot actually show them to us until September.
So, who is David Kay?
Well, David Kay is NOT a scientist. His degree is a Masters in International Relations (which sounds like a cover for a spy) and he admitted connections to US Intelligence agencies at the same time that he worked for Hand Blix. After Kay was fired for conflict of interest (observers wondered why he had been chosen as a weapons inspector in the first place), he led the public attack on his former boss, Hans Blix.
It has been suggested that Key's presence in the Blix inspection team was based on prior experience under the first Bush Presidency, experience that was not without suspicion of fraud.
8/11/03 "it was never about a smoking gun," by david kay
8/13/03 Flashback: Iraq accuses UNSCOM of cover-up Unscom "discovered" traces of VX on Iraq missile warheads. Tests on the same missiles conducted by France and Switzerland found NO traces of VX. Iraq demanded that samples of VX in the hands of the Unscom team be tested to see if they were the source of the traces of VX found on the missile warheads. Unscom refused to allow any tests and destroyed their samples. David Kay was part of Unscom during this fraud.
8/14/03 Flashback: No nerve gas on Iraqi missiles The US was caught tring to frame Iraq for possessing banned weapons. http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=story_12-8-2003_pg1_9
David Kay Links ...
Sorry, couldn't find the one you were looking for but here are the ones I have:
What is David Kay up to in Iraq?
http://www.xymphora.blogspot.com/2003_08_01_xymphora_archive.html#105989678454847406
Did David Kay Engineer WMD Evidence for Bush I -and Now Bush 2?
http://baltimore.indymedia.org/newswire/display_printable/4430/index.php
Bush's Top WMD Inspector David Kay is NOT a scientist of any kind
http://baltimore.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/4522
Do you trust this guy: Inspectors certain Iraq will use its deadly weapons
http://news.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2002/09/08/wirq208.xml
... From one year ago: US expert promises WMD 'surprises'
http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/mpapps/pagetools/print/news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3115035.stm
THE MAN THE US IS SENDING INTO IRAQ TO 'DISCOVER' WMDS WAS AT THE HEART OF THE ATTEMPT TO FRAME IRAQ IN 1999
http://www.cin.org/archives/cinjust/199907/0074.html Karl Rove's stenographer Robert Novak writes, "Former international weapons inspector David Kay, now seeking Iraqi weapons of mass destruction for the Pentagon, has privately reported successes that are planned to be revealed to the public in mid-September. Kay has told his superiors he has found substantial evidence of biological weapons in Iraq, plus considerable missile development. He has been less successful in locating chemical weapons, and has not yet begun a substantial effort to locate progress toward nuclear arms. Senior officials in the Bush administration believe Kay's weapons discoveries should have been revealed as they were made. However, a decision, approved by Bush, was made to wait until more was discovered and then announce it -- probably in September." Get ready for a new Bushit propaganda offensive, full of alleged "evidence" that the corporate media reports in its headlines as PROOF of Saddam's WMD, which will all prove to be yet more Bushit. http://www.townhall.com/columnists/robertnovak/rn20030809.shtml Quoted from www.mirror.co.uk: http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/allnews/content_objectid=13282493_method=full_siteid=50143_headline=-MoD-OFFICIALS-SLAM-DOSSIER-SPIN-name_page.html "...And allegations that Dr Kelly, 59, was a Walter Mitty fantasist were trashed by the revelation that the "superb and impressive" expert was about to lead the hunt for Iraq's weapons of mass destruction..." It seems entirely possible that Dr Kelly 'suicided' so that David Kay could take the lead in the hunt for WMD... How someone with no scientific background intends to find WMDs though, I don't know. It seems he wouldn't recognise them if he fell over them, let alone planted them himself... http://www.guardian.co.uk/iraq/story/0,2763,1016856,00.html David Kay admits he hasn't found a trace of chemical weapons, and the US officials say ALL Iraq scientists insist that all WMD were destroyed! Interesting that David Kay who's not even a scientist seems to be the only person who knows about Saddam's WMD's for the past 12 years! P.S. I believe that when Bush claimed in a speech last year that intelligence said Iraq had 500 liters of VX that he was quoting Kay, I'll check more on that later tonight, oh, there's plenty on David Kay, the thing is it's the same stuff that only he knows over and over and over and over again, really if it were not for people quoting David Kay and Charles Duelfer these past many years there wouldn't even have been the perception of WMD in Iraq ! His latest bit of total lunacy.The stupidity of this "evidence" speaks for itself. http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,1016856,00.html Bush's Top WMD Inspector David Kay is NOT a scientist of any kind http://baltimore.indymedia.org/newswire/display/4522/index.php http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2003/07/268143.shtml Did David Kay Engineer WMD Evidence for Bush I - and Now Bush II? what period are u talking about with the kay/biological weapons/testing thing? Saddam ordered chemical attack, inspector to claim Saddam 'ordered chemical attack' Julian Borger in Washington The former UN inspector hired by the Bush administration to find evidence that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction will claim in a report next month that Iraqi forces were ordered to fire chemical shells at invading coalition troops, according to US reports. But David Kay, who heads the 1,400-strong Iraq Survey Group, has admitted he has found no trace of the weapons themselves, and cannot explain why they were never used. One possibility is that the orders were part of an elaborate bluff, in the hope that they would be intercepted by the US and deter an attack. .. The Boston Globe reported that Mr Kay, who was hired by the CIA in June to direct the search, had made the claim in a classified briefing to two Senate committees. The newspaper quoted officials who had seen a summary of his report as saying that Republican Guard commanders had been ordered to launch chemical-filled shells at troops. "They have found evidence that an order was given," a senior intelligence official said, adding there was no explanation of why the weapons were not used. .. It is not clear what evidence Mr Kay will present to support his claims. At the time he was hired by the CIA to direct the hunt for weapons, Mr Kay was working for a hi-tech engineering firm and appearing regularly on television to argue that the Iraqi dictator had a significant arsenal. Some of his former UN colleagues have said he has a powerful personal incentive to show he was not entirely wrong. After the war he suggested that the weapons had been dumped in the Tigris and Euphrates rivers but no evidence of this was found to back up the allegation. .. The Bush administration is hoping that the Kay report will bolster its defences against an expected onslaught of Democratic party criticism over the Iraq war once as the 2004 presidential election campaign gathers pace next month.. http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,1016856,00.html Nuclear weapons expert warns of Hamza evidence David Albright is a nuclear weapons expert. He is the president of the Institute for Science and International Security in Washington and he was on the International Atomic Energy Action team from 1992 to 1997. In June of '96 he became the first non-governmental inspector of the Iraqi nuclear program. TONY JONES: Yeah, I'm wondering about this because other experts have pointed to the procurement pattern that's shown in the Blair dossier, for example 60,000 aluminium tubes. Now one of your weapons inspectors, former weapons inspectors, David Kay, says that points to a very large centrifuge program. If they could get that going they could produce fissile material and get a bomb. DAVID ALBRIGHT: Well as an example of why - we're not just looking at Hamza, we're looking at all cases. The Administration said those aluminium tubes were specific to a specific uranium technology - gas centrifuge. We have concluded that they're not and it was encouraging to see in the British report they agree with us - that there's no intelligence information linking those aluminium tubes to any Iraqi nuclear program. And I think that's another case where information is hyped up. The nuclear card is played to get people to support going to war or to attack inspections and I think we need to challenge that information. And that's actually one of the indications that it's NOT for gas centrifuge - it's a ridiculously high number for a gas centrifuge program. http://www.abc.net.au/lateline/s686055.htm Is Iraqi Intel Still Being Manipulated? The sad and secretive tale of an Iraqi scientist By Michael Hirsh Former U.N. inspector David Albright, who got to know Obeidi in the mid-'90s in Iraq and acted as middleman in putting him in touch with the CIA in mid-May after Operation Iraqi Freedom, spoke with him on June 29. Albright says Obeidi told him then that he thought his asylum would be granted by early July and was "in the final stages." But another month passed. As recently as Aug. 5, the last time Albright spoke to him, Obeidi did not know when he would be allowed to leave for the United States, Albright said. Asked about the Obeidi case, CIA spokesman William Harlow said Friday, "We don't issue green cards . We never said he was coming here. We never made a promise." (In fact, the agency does on occasion arrange asylum for useful informants). Later, Harlow called back to say that Obeidi was not "cooling his heels" in Kuwait any longer and that "we're not unhappy with him." But Harlow would not say where Obeidi had been sent or whether he had been granted asylum in the United States. "We just don't discuss asylum cases," Harlow said. Albright and others suggest that, with the Obeidi case, the message being sent by the Bush administration to Iraqi scientists being interrogated in Iraq is a troublesome one: if you don't tell us what we want to hear, you won't be rewarded. In fact, things might even get a little unpleasant for you. As Albright points out, provisional green cards can be arranged very quickly; among those so favored, for example, was the Iraqi man who tipped off the U.S. military to the whereabouts of Pfc. Jessica Lynch. "I think they're just keeping him under wraps," said Albright. The treatment of Obeidi has in turn raised questions about whether even fresh intelligence from Iraq is being manipulated in advance of the report being prepared by David Kay, which is intended as the definitive account of Iraq's WMD program. One Capitol Hill legislator told NEWSWEEK that the administration's plan is to put out a vast compilation of data about Saddam's decades-long effort to build weapons of mass destruction and "hope the issue will go away." And several Democrats say they are disturbed by what Sen. Dianne Feinstein told NEWSWEEK was the "very vague and nonprecise" nature of Kay's testimony when he appeared at closed sessions of two congressional committees last week. "Signs of a weapons program are very different than the stockpiles of biological and chemical weapons that were a certainty before the war," said Sen. Jay Rockefeller, ranking Democrat on the Senate Intelligence Committee. "We did not go to war to disrupt Saddam's weapons program, we went to disarm him." President Bush himself in late July said Kay would require a long time to analyze "literally the miles of documents that we have uncovered." While suggesting that more surprises are to come, especially on biological weapons, Kay also indicated last week that the most "amazing" evidence he was uncovering involved not caches of weapons, but new details of efforts by the Iraqis at deceiving U.N. inspectors. State Department spokesman Philip Reeker, asked Friday about the allegations that the forthcoming Kay report might amount to less than the full story, said that Kay "has been very clear that he's doing a very thorough and methodical look at all of this." http://www.msnbc.com/news/950224.asp?0dm=s20Nk http://216.239.39.104/search?q=cache
src="http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/ubb/smile/biggrin.gif">AldOZB_kjkJ:www.emergency.com/ chembio9.htm+Kay+WMD&hl=en&ie=UTF-8 http://216.239.53.104/search?q=cache:s- R1uOZk048J:xymphora.blogspot.com/ 2003_06_01_xymphora_archive.html+%22David+Kay%22+SAIC&hl=en&ie=UTF-8 http://www.apfn.net/messageboard/7-03-03/discussion.cgi.88.html This has some good info on Kay, I noticed where it states his degrees that none seem to be related to science, interesting that he was on the IAEA from 1983 to 1992 without being a scientist ! He has a Masters in "International Affairs", I have noticed many spies claim this degree, sounds made-up to me ! http://www.thehollandsentinel.net/stories/102798/new_nervegas.html This is a very good one, shows evidence of framing Iraq, has lot's of good stuff in it. David Kay tries to say Iraq tampered with samples. It also shows that the evidence Kay cites could just as easily been from detergent. Remember it wasn't even actual VX traces that the US was using in it's accusations, also remember how the other UN nations scoffed and only partially came around to helping the US out of it's own mess, even though that in itself is easily disproved and was basically language games, back to the hunt ! http://www.useu.be/categories/globalaffairs/iraq/jan1903iraqsmokinggunkay.ht ml This is from January this year, let's see if he tries to tell us he has the "smoking gun" in mid-September. It is clear that his conclusion has already been made here. The war was sold to the American people based on multiple "smoking guns", to say otherwise now is a complete after the fact shift in justification! There's plenty on David Kay, this makes a good opener, I do know he was selling the 12 scud missile lies last year, I'll find some stuff on that, and there's a neocon group he belongs to, the name escapes me at the moment, but I'll find it, I'll also check on your specific request ! WASHINGTON -- Former international weapons inspector David Kay, now seeking Iraqi weapons of mass destruction for the Pentagon, has privately reported successes that are planned to be revealed to the public in mid-Septembe http://usembassy-australia.state.gov/hyper/2002/0912/epf406.htm In this article the creepy David Kay outlines his heroic and amazing ability to find Iraq's "Nuclear Weapons" Programme in 1992 . Would you believe it ,no intelligence agency had a clue of this massive undertaking until Ole Dave shows up and finds a "Mother-lode of documents". As Kay points out there were no facilities to destroy but a MASSIVE PROGRAMME built for DECEPTION. His boss at the time
addy Bush. Fast forward 11 years and Baby Bush dispatches David Kay to find the Phantom Iraq WMD programme that no one else can find. 3 days on the job and the Amazing Kay unearths a piece of an Iraqi Centrifuge .The purpose: to show how tricky and diabolical these evil Iraqis are. http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/06/25/sprj.irq.centrifuge/ Days after that, Kay replicates his immaculate conception of 12 years ago. A another mother-lode of documents are found in the Cradle of Civilisation.WOW! Talk about having the MIDAS Touch! It's amusing to notice the similiarity between his Congressional Testimony in the fall of 2002 and the current statements he's making today. Was he rehearsing his script back then -preparing for his lead role in the sequel to his earlier Oscar Award winning performance : "The Saving of Bush's Privates". http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30200-12702893,00.html http://www.rense.com/general40/ound.htm