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FLKook
Chemspiracy Realist


East Central Florida
1540 posts, Apr 2001

posted 10-28-2003 06:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FLKook     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It isn't worth anyone's while but if any one cares you may decipher binary here...
http://nickciske.com/tools/binary.php

Yawn. Just loses something without the magic decoder ring.

[Edited 1 times, lastly by FLKook on 10-28-2003]

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gaiacomm
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Los Angeles, California, USA
430 posts, Aug 2003

posted 10-30-2003 04:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for gaiacomm   Email gaiacomm   Visit gaiacomm's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
One last entry:


All of you have very important points and they all make sense.
The problem is that none of you has the authority or command to suggest and influence the individuals that have masterminded the Middle East war or any other conflict.
America is very guilty of miss-leading the public at large and others within certain offices to the real reasons why these invasions must take place. It is not religion but control of natural resources and its people to accept democratic policies to absorb and pillage the land and its people for complete control of all to satisfy some revelation that these few should be the masters of the earth and enjoy its fruit.

The Paradigm must rest with us to change these systems of governments and spread the wealth. These people did not appear from some divine intervention but were reared in the same environment as we with one exception they formed an alliance long ago and convinced us with false truths that they would lead us all into freedom and peace. Well now, look around you and see what few bones they have cast down in our pits.

Our own fears and ignorance is what these people rely on and our addictive behaviors to comforts that they place in front of us to grow accustomed to, to the point that we cannot part with them. At that point, it is then used as a tool to corner and control our thoughts and movements. The simple freedoms we have are a small piece to what really is out there for us.

We have only ourselves to blame if we are dissatisfied with the geopolitical politics that plays out each day for our entertainment. The military is controlled by false promise and meager wages. The politians that create wars never are first in line to fight along side with others. Did Bush stand with his troops on the front line and yell charge? Did Tony Blair?

Loss of life for someone else’s gain is not right and should be dealt with by the people affected. We know that Saddam was a mass murderer but the USA helped him into power. Now the USA helped him out of power. In addition, we all sit and throw stones because we feel it is right and we fear of standing up in the crowd and demanding a recall.

We accept that the USA and others hold truth to protect whom? The guilty?
Does anyone really wish to see all of us live together and exchange ideas?

A clear indication that the USA started off on the wrong foot when in its Declaration of Independence it stated that all Men are created equal…. When it should have read all Men and Women are created equal.

We are all intelligent and understand that women are equal to us.

They are HUMAN BEINGS! As for differences, well that is what we all iron out thru discussions and open debate to setup a system that allows for freedom of expression without the fear of reprisal and ridicule. The Planet is not prejudice and provides everything we need to improve ourselves and live free. Every tool, machine, food, weapon, technology, everything we touch came from the earth and was reshaped to our will. We do not have to live as we do, the laws of Physics and Science do not define these rules we live by. We can easily change them with our will! Our brains have the ability to do anything we choose. The computers and internet was formed inside someone’s brain then they went to gather the parts from the earth to make what we see and feel each day.

It is not a religion that controls us but ourselves allowing others to control. If we combine, our intellects together we can accomplish much, but we must all change ourselves from within first then we can proceed. It does not take centuries to change if we all are willing to sacrifice some to gain more lately.

The Media controls us and we accept that because we feel that we can do nothing but talk amongst ourselves and hope that it will get better. Well it will not as long as you all sit on your hands and wait for the other person to take the risk.
We all can debate and write essays all day but outside there are wars, death, poor, sick, uneducated, murder, rape, lies, enslavement, and so many other controls that we have learned to accept by being enabled by our leaders and peers that we put so much faith into.
We can replace and redirect the world events if we work together and demonstrate that we are tired of being tired and as the famous quote from the movie Network, “I am as mad as hell and I am not going to take it anymore

One last thought, if the French had not assisted the USA during the separation from England what would it be like now? If the Black Slaves who numbered 200,000 had not joined, the Union Army would the Civil War’s outcome been different.

Think about it!

Dr. Judah Ben-Hur


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halva
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Greece
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posted 10-30-2003 05:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for halva   Email halva   Visit halva's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There are things that you can do that are more purposeful than posting on this board, but it will involve dealing with others as equals and accepting the same treatment from them. If you can do that, go ahead.

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emfx13
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719 posts, May 2002

posted 10-30-2003 12:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for emfx13   Email emfx13   Visit emfx13's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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gaiacomm
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Los Angeles, California, USA
430 posts, Aug 2003

posted 10-30-2003 12:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for gaiacomm   Email gaiacomm   Visit gaiacomm's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by halva:
There are things that you can do that are more purposeful than posting on this board, but it will involve dealing with others as equals and accepting the same treatment from them. If you can do that, go ahead.


Halva:
I do understand your words. Posting here is a way to keep the general public informed or at least try to.
Times have changed and so have methods. I am no god just a man doing his duty to serve and not be served. We all live on this planet together and we must work together, period!
Keep your eye on Russia...Putin is being a bad boy and must be stopped very soon or the bear will break away from its cage and look for the eagle to eat!

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gaiacomm
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Los Angeles, California, USA
430 posts, Aug 2003

posted 10-30-2003 12:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for gaiacomm   Email gaiacomm   Visit gaiacomm's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by emfx13:
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PRETTY COOL FLKOOK!!YOUR RIGHT IT DOES LOSE SOMETHING WITHOUT THE DECODER RING.HEY GAIACOMM WHERES THE GROUND SHAKING INFO,I HAVE READ EVERYTHING YOU POSTED...I'M READY TO HEAR IT.

Keep in mind that the US is at war with others that wish to destroy and kill you and your family without regard. Now its fun to post here and stay warm in your home while US soliders and others try to protect your freedoms or maybe its not so. This is not JAG or someother TV show that you can just watch and turn off.
I have been given direct instructions to stop even hinting of information that could be used against us all. I am only one of many that have some influenece in the arena of arcane science and we just got out of the "KEEP"!


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halva
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Greece
597 posts, Dec 2002

posted 10-30-2003 01:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for halva   Email halva   Visit halva's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
É don't know what you expect us to do about Putin, Gaiacomm, but in my observation of him there is a direct correlation between the badness of his politics and the closeness of his alliance with the United States.

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gaiacomm
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Los Angeles, California, USA
430 posts, Aug 2003

posted 10-30-2003 04:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for gaiacomm   Email gaiacomm   Visit gaiacomm's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by halva:
É don't know what you expect us to do about Putin, Gaiacomm, but in my observation of him there is a direct correlation between the badness of his politics and the closeness of his alliance with the United States.

Halva: yes I do notice that. I wonder what is really cooking in the oven?
Looks like the days of democracy are numbered in Russia. Seems Putin found a loophole in the system!

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orgonote
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U.K.
22 posts, Sep 2003

posted 10-30-2003 09:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for orgonote   Email orgonote     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi, i'm sorry i've not been able to get back here for a few days. (been very tied up NOT being an agent lately--'eggs' knows what i mean)

Thanks BoomerChick for your kind words--and the viewzone link. That's a new one for me, interesting stuff, cheers.

And JerseyBluEyz for that rense link. That is indeed the article i came across. Some say that the Rense site is largely disinfo, that may well be true. I'm inclined to trust that story, though, because of the Al Ghazali witness--unless he is an assett and wheeled on for credibility. That only shifts it into the area of 'leaking' on purpose just how horrible they are--so all in all, on balance i'm inclined to think the account is true. Nothing to do with haarp it would seem.

A horribly intriguing aspect of that report is how everything was reduced in size--the bus was reduced to the size of a VW and the bodies of adult victims to the size of babies. It's a commonplace even to an unschooled intuitive understanding like mine that every apparent solid that constitutes our physical reality is in fact 'only' the motion of energy occuring in a matrix which is actually mostly space. In micro as the cosmos is in macro. It is as if this appalling weapon has removed the space.

I was discussing this with a friend--now retired, like me--who was an electrical engineer and physicist. He told me of something invented in the 70s, in the uk i think, which became dubbed a Gaser. Like a Laser which amplifies and coheres light this thing did that with gamma-radiation. I hardly know what it means to say it, but he told me this thing had a ferocious appetite for matter--the more and the denser, the better. It quickly disappeared off the scene into the realms of top secrecy. Here we are 30yrs on---things that make you go hmm.

Thank you Gaiacomm for your considered response to my earlier post (and the later one). I'm delighted to think i may not be completely on the wrong lines in my considerations about orgonite. It helps to confirm a sane and useful direction to go with my efforts in that regard.

Here is another small question which may not challenge the secrecy you are again under. Your, mention of possible wireless applications reminds me of a man called Stubblefield (i think that was the name?) who was working about 100 years ago, i think, on wireless propagation via the earths magnetic fields, using ground batteries or something if i remember it right. Essentially 'free energy' so it never caught on, same old, same old. I wonder if you aren't reinventing that again, or is it something entirely different?

I am sorry you won't be able to shed much more light on what you are doing from this point. I can understand the constraints you are under, not because i am an agent, as goo goo, goo joob would assert, but simply because i am conscious on the same planet and have a brain in my head.

I find it richly ironic that we seem to be on the same page as far as my musings are concerned (i read what you wrote about samples and am aware you did little more than *not* dismiss the ideas), which is a very different page than the one the eggman seems to be on. Classic in it's way. "Delutoids" is a good word someone invented and which i came upon today.

I would like to probe that irony a little further, but it would be a bit off topic here. Perhaps on that 'agent fable' 'freeform' thread.

Cheers
phil

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halva
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Greece
597 posts, Dec 2002

posted 10-31-2003 10:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for halva   Email halva   Visit halva's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
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Originally posted by halva:
É don't know what you expect us to do about Putin, Gaiacomm, but in my observation of him there is a direct correlation between the badness of his politics and the closeness of his alliance with the United States.
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Halva: yes I do notice that. I wonder what is really cooking in the oven?
Looks like the days of democracy are numbered in Russia. Seems Putin found a loophole in the system!


WH: Gaiacomm, can you explain again the patriotic aspect of your HAARP activities, because if you can agree with what I said above it is bizarre to me that you are in the employment of the US government in such a purportedly senior position. If you had said that Putin was working not for the US but for the UN or the globalists or something then there might be something to relate to in your utterances. But.....

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gaiacomm
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Los Angeles, California, USA
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posted 10-31-2003 11:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for gaiacomm   Email gaiacomm   Visit gaiacomm's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by orgonote:
Hi, i'm sorry i've not been able to get back here for a few days. (been very tied up NOT being an agent lately--'eggs' knows what i mean)

Thanks BoomerChick for your kind words--and the viewzone link. That's a new one for me, interesting stuff, cheers.

And JerseyBluEyz for that rense link. That is indeed the article i came across. Some say that the Rense site is largely disinfo, that may well be true. I'm inclined to trust that story, though, because of the Al Ghazali witness--unless he is an assett and wheeled on for credibility. That only shifts it into the area of 'leaking' on purpose just how horrible they are--so all in all, on balance i'm inclined to think the account is true. Nothing to do with haarp it would seem.

A horribly intriguing aspect of that report is how everything was reduced in size--the bus was reduced to the size of a VW and the bodies of adult victims to the size of babies. It's a commonplace even to an unschooled intuitive understanding like mine that every apparent solid that constitutes our physical reality is in fact 'only' the motion of energy occuring in a matrix which is actually mostly space. In micro as the cosmos is in macro. It is as if this appalling weapon has removed the space.

I was discussing this with a friend--now retired, like me--who was an electrical engineer and physicist. He told me of something invented in the 70s, in the uk i think, which became dubbed a Gaser. Like a Laser which amplifies and coheres light this thing did that with gamma-radiation. I hardly know what it means to say it, but he told me this thing had a ferocious appetite for matter--the more and the denser, the better. It quickly disappeared off the scene into the realms of top secrecy. Here we are 30yrs on---things that make you go hmm.

Thank you Gaiacomm for your considered response to my earlier post (and the later one). I'm delighted to think i may not be completely on the wrong lines in my considerations about orgonite. It helps to confirm a sane and useful direction to go with my efforts in that regard.

Here is another small question which may not challenge the secrecy you are again under. Your, mention of possible wireless applications reminds me of a man called Stubblefield (i think that was the name?) who was working about 100 years ago, i think, on wireless propagation via the earths magnetic fields, using ground batteries or something if i remember it right. Essentially 'free energy' so it never caught on, same old, same old. I wonder if you aren't reinventing that again, or is it something entirely different? ( THE SAME PRINCIPLE THE SAME TECHNIGUES EXPECT THE PARTS ARE SMALLER AND FASTER AND WE DO NOT NEED THE WINDINGS ANYMORE AND THE CARRIER PIPES ARE FIBEROPTIC IN NATURE AND THE AMPS AND FILTERS ARE MUCH MORE EFFICENT. AND YES IT IS "FREE ENERGY" BUT NOT TO THOSE WHO DO NOT CONTROL IT. UNFORTUNATLY THE POWERS TO BE WILL NOT ALLOW THIS TECHNOLOGY TO BE USED FOR FREE AND WISH ONLY TO TURN A PROFIT. BUT IN TIME IT CAN BE MADE AVALIABLE TO THOSE AT AN AFFORDABLE PRICE AFTER WE DO LIVE WITH THE IDEA THAT THE POWER OF CHANGE IS WITH THE PEOPLE AND NOT THE GOVERNMENT...JUST ASK THE FRENCH!
I am sorry you won't be able to shed much more light on what you are doing from this point. I can understand the constraints you are under, not because i am an agent, as goo goo, goo joob would assert, but simply because i am conscious on the same planet and have a brain in my head.

I find it richly ironic that we seem to be on the same page as far as my musings are concerned (i read what you wrote about samples and am aware you did little more than *not* dismiss the ideas), which is a very different page than the one the eggman seems to be on. Classic in it's way. "Delutoids" is a good word someone invented and which i came upon today.

I would like to probe that irony a little further, but it would be a bit off topic here. Perhaps on that 'agent fable' 'freeform' thread.

Cheers
phil


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gaiacomm
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posted 10-31-2003 11:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for gaiacomm   Email gaiacomm   Visit gaiacomm's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by halva:
quote:

WH: Gaiacomm, can you explain again the patriotic aspect of your HAARP activities, because if you can agree with what I said above it is bizarre to me that you are in the employment of the US government in such a purportedly senior position. If you had said that Putin was working not for the US but for the UN or the globalists or something then there might be something to relate to in your utterances. But.....

Halva:

The haarp project belongs to the ones who finance the project but not entirely by the government. The patriotic aspects of haarp is that it can be used to protect the ones that are under attack which would include greece since it is in good standing with the UN. I am one who supports FREEDOM!
I understand that it seems quite odd that I have taken these stands. But thru history it is always the ones you least expect or the the ones that just don't seem to fit the profile. The history of Greece and Sparta is a good example.
Putin is only for Putin...do not be fooled by the reverse KGB tactics. Putin likes chess and likes to play! The bear is awake once again and is very hungry for food(power)! Ask a true Russian if they are happy and content!
The UN needs to adhere to its rules and not be used as a "bitch"!

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posted 10-31-2003 11:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for halva   Email halva   Visit halva's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, we're going over old ground here.

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gaiacomm
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posted 10-31-2003 12:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for gaiacomm   Email gaiacomm   Visit gaiacomm's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by halva:
Well, we're going over old ground here.


Halva:
I have stupid questions for you...What have you done for freedom lately? What are you doing to help make a change in the system that controls us all? What groups are you with that advocate change? What sacrifices do you make to help others? What contributions do you make to the system at large? Where do you wish to go? What can you do to help? Can you help? Are you willing to give up your life for freedom so others can live in peace?
Would you defend your land with your life?
Are you afraid?

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posted 10-31-2003 01:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for halva   Email halva   Visit halva's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
És this what you're talking about?


Russia Ready to Vaporize the Jewish State
And then kick America out of the Eastern Hemisphere’s oilfields

Copyright Joe Vialls, 28 October 2003

joe.vialls@ntlworld.com




Israeli Dolphin Class attack submarines, unwittingly provided free-of-charge by German taxpayers

"When the end finally comes for Israel, it will all be over in microseconds. Flying faster than rifle bullets,
the Sunburns will approach Tel Aviv and Haifa at twice the speed of sound, detonating in blinding white
200 Kiloton flashes designed to instantly transform animal vegetable and mineral into heat and light."

During the Cold War of the sixties, the only thing stopping American or Russian psychopaths from taking over the entire world was the doctrine of Mutually Assured Destruction [MAD], where a multiple ICBM launch by America on Russia or vice versa, would automatically lead to a "doomsday" response by the nation under attack. Mutual destruction of both America and Russia was thereby guaranteed, resulting in nearly thirty years of unprecedented peace and quiet, caused solely by mutual nuclear fear.
About one month ago, Russia discreetly invoked MAD again, but this time in the Middle East in direct response to hysterical Israeli threats to nuke Iran with submarine-launched American Harpoon missiles. Quietly and with the minimum of fuss, Russia deployed its most advanced tactical nuclear missiles and crews to both Syria and Iran, thereby sending an unmistakable diplomatic signal that if Israel attacked Tehran or Damascus with nuclear weapons, Russia would in return instantly and anonymously vaporize the Jewish State.
This is not an idle or exaggerated threat. The Russian missile type deployed in Syria and Iran is the P270 Moskit [Mosquito], known in NATO circles as the SS-N-22 "Sunburn", once described by Rep. Dana Rohrabacher as "the most dangerous anti-ship missile in the Russian, and now the Chinese, fleet." The ship borne version of this missile is launched from deck mounted quad tubes, but since Rohrabacher made his comments, Russia has adapted the Sunburn for submerged launch from submarines, air launch from Sukhoi 27s, and single surface launch from modified 40’ flatbed trucks. Nowadays, western defense experts unambiguously view all versions of Sunburn as the "most dangerous missiles in the world".




Mach 2.2 Moskit [SS-N-22 Sunburn] Missile

To see exactly how the Zionists drove us to this nuclear flash point, it is necessary to go back a few years to discover how the Jewish State managed to acquire sophisticated German submarine launch platforms, and American nuclear-tipped Harpoon missiles, thereby allowing a bunch of psychotic religious crazies in Tel Aviv to bring the Middle East, and perhaps the entire world, to the very brink of thermonuclear war.
Around 1989 Israel was trying to replace its obsolescent Gal-class submarine fleet, while simultaneously whining that it didn’t have the funds to do so. Predictably perhaps, the Jewish State was looking for a free hand out. Having failed to extract these big-ticket items as gifts from America, in 1991 Israel turned its sights on Germany, perpetually in moral debt to the Zionists because of the brilliantly managed and highly successful holocaust industry.
After a pathetically short period of Zionist arm wrestling in Berlin, Germany caved-in and agreed to build and provide the first two Dolphin class submarines free of charge, and extend a loan to Israel for the third. Naturally this loan was never repaid, meaning that German taxpayers had unwittingly funded Israel’s entire submarine fleet, custom-designed to launch nuclear-tipped missiles from specially designed torpedo tubes.
Obtaining the deadly American Harpoon missiles was relatively easy. For decades American taxpayers have unwittingly provided the Jewish State with enough free "expendable" munitions to crush the Palestinian people in their own country, and the Harpoon missile is classed as an expendable munition. What this means is that Harpoon falls into the same generic category as rifle bullets and hand grenades, so Washington went ahead and gifted the Jewish State with more than fifty nuclear-capable Harpoons.
The nuclear warheads for these missiles can be either American or homegrown Dimona products, but no matter which, Israel had to make it known that the nuclear capability was real, for there is no point making a nuclear threat if you cannot back it up with real nuclear muscle. This was achieved by leaking the information through high profile Israeli media assets, who initially plastered the information all over the Internet. This completed stage one of the exercise, which then had to be swiftly followed by a quasi-official statement of absolute deniability. Think about this one carefully people, think about it very carefully.
If Damascus or Tehran should suddenly turn into heat and light any time soon, the Israelis will instantly get the blame, in the first place because of their leaked high-profile threats, and secondly because of their known hatred of anything even remotely related to Islam or Arabs. We did not have very long to wait for this "on the record" deniability statement, which was issued less than 24-hours after the initial threats.
Former Israeli deputy defence minister Efraim Sneh claimed on Army Radio that, "Anyone with even the slightest understanding of missiles knows that the Harpoon can never be used to carry nuclear warheads". This was swiftly reinforced by Ted Hooton, editor of Jane's Naval Weapon Systems in London, who agreed with Sneh’s assessment, saying problems with payload weight would put the Harpoon out of balance, limiting its range and accuracy, "It seems to me that a nuclear weapon, which is extremely dense, would make the Harpoon nose heavy and significantly reduce its range — in any event well below the (150 kilometers) it is designed for," he said.
While many might doubt the authenticity of Sneh’s claim, who would dare question the measured opinion of Jane’s, widely touted as the most authoritative military publication on earth? Unfortunately Jane’s appears to have made a terrible error, because Hooton’s claim is the exact opposite of reality. Harpoon normally carries a 215-pound conventional explosive charge in its warhead, which can easily be replaced by a 99.2-pound nuclear device, which then needs additional ballast to balance the missile in flight!



Rest assured that the American-Israeli Harpoons are nuclear, and the Zionists have every intention of using them on Tehran and Damascus if they think they can get away with it. Dangerous people do dangerous things in dangerous times, and there is nothing more dangerous that a pack of religious fanatics with their backs to the Mediterranean, facing the imminent destruction of Zion. The Israeli economy is in tatters, Jewish migrants are fleeing Israel in droves, and the Zionist host [America] is fast running out of spare cash and free weapons.
Russia has known all about Israel’s nuclear forward planning for many months, and the only question the Kremlin faced was which deterrent to pull out of its vast nuclear arsenal and deploy in the Middle East. At the same time, Russia was equally determined to send very strong signals to America: signals also designed to make the Zionist crusaders think long and hard before they took any more aggressive action against the former Soviet republics and North Korea.
Deterrent choice for the Middle East was easy, because the Russians already knew the Americans were frightened of the SS-N-22, which the U.S. Navy actually tried to purchase from the Russian Navy in September 1995. In a letter reproduced at the bottom of this page, Vice Admiral Bowes wrote to Russian Commander in Chief Admiral Gromov, "I appreciate the opportunity to convey to you the United States Navy’s interest in acquiring all variants of the SS-N-22 ‘Sunburn’ Anti-Ship Supersonic Ship-to-Ship missile for test and evaluation". America’s naked fear of this unstoppable weapon was thus laid bare, but Russia predictably refused to sell
If the Israelis decide to nuke Tehran or Damascus there is little doubt that some of their Harpoon missiles will get through, though probably only because of the element of surprise. The American-Israeli Harpoon is still vulnerable to defensive systems because it is a relatively old subsonic missile, powered by a small Teledyne turbofan engine. Detectable by radar, cruising relatively high at around 300 feet altitude, and with a range of only 65 miles, the Harpoon can be terminated by one of many different point defense systems. But regardless of these notable shortcomings, and as previously stated, some will reach their targets in Damascus or Tehran.
And that, ladies and gentlemen, is when the real fireworks will start. Within seconds the tarpaulins will be thrown back on a number of 40’ flatbed trucks currently dispersed in classified locations, revealing the dull metal of the 37’ Sunburn launch tubes within. While the hydraulic stabilizer jacks slam into the ground and the launch tubes elevate to the firing position, Russian artillery specialists will confirm the pre-programmed target coordinates, then defer to central command fire control, at the same time retaining unit "dead man" authority to fire on bypass if absolutely necessary.
Each Sunburn will hurtle out of its launcher riding on the white-hot tail of a booster rocket, while its special ramjet lights and cycles up to full thrust. Then rapidly sinking back to an undetectable cruising altitude of approximately 60 feet, each missile will accelerate to Mach 2.2 [1,520 mph] in less than 30 seconds, with a total flight time from Damascus to Tel Aviv of around three minutes. When the end finally comes for Israel, it will all be over in microseconds.


Flying faster than rifle bullets, the Sunburns will approach Tel Aviv and Haifa at twice the speed of sound, detonating in blinding white 200 Kiloton flashes designed to instantly transform animal vegetable and mineral into heat and light. If I was an Israeli general facing this doomsday response on my wife, my family and my synagogue, I would not launch any Harpoons at all, but then I am not a religious fanatic obsessed with killing Muslims and stealing their land. Unfortunately, reading the minds of certifiable lunatics is all but impossible, so the best I can suggest is that perhaps the Israelis will launch, and perhaps they will not.
Worst of all for the Zionists left alive in Washington and New York, is that if the Russians are obliged to launch their counter-strike against Israel, it will be one-hundred-percent deniable. Unlike Israel and its public threats to nuke Iran, Russia has not threatened anyone at all. Because Sunburn flies below the horizon it cannot be detected or logged by radar, and a 200-kiloton hole in the middle of Tel Aviv will yield no clues. Very likely the Russians will copy the Americans, and blame a fictional "rogue state" like Iran, Pakistan or North Korea.
The Sunburns deployed in Syria and Iran are not the only ones currently giving the Zionists recurring nightmares. Although the Russians refused to sell any SS-N-22s to Vice Admiral Bowes in 1995, they later made a very public sale of more than 100 Sunburns to the Chinese, who mounted them on frigates and corvettes, which they stationed near Taiwan. Thus by 2001, both the Russian and Chinese Pacific Fleets were fully equipped with 200+ Sunburns, each and every one of them easily capable of sinking an American aircraft carrier.
Ever since the illegal invasion of Iraq by America earlier this year , Russia has deliberately sent a number of unmistakably harsh diplomatic signals that the days of the Zionist crusaders are numbered, especially in the mid and far east, but predictably all of these signals have been deliberately suppressed by the western media. Russia’s bottom line is completely neutralizing America and Israeli in the Eastern Hemisphere, thereby preventing the U.S. from stealing Eurasia’s strategic oil reserves.
In late May while the illegal invasion of Iraq was in full swing, a small Russian fleet deployed to the Indian Ocean, uncomfortably close to American carrier battle groups transiting in an out of the Persian Gulf. This exercise, the first held by Russia in the Indian Ocean for more than ten years, was extremely uncomfortable for the American commanders, who knew that five of the Russian vessels, including three submarines, were fully equipped with nuclear-capable Sunburn missiles.
The diplomatic signal in the Indian Ocean was blatantly obvious. Though numerically inferior to the American fleet, the Russians had more than enough unstoppable firepower to win any sea battle outright. Billion-dollar American aircraft carriers became obsolete monoliths that day, as did America’s arrogant ability to roam the oceans of the world attacking smaller sovereign nations on Zionist orders. If America pushed too hard in Russian or Chinese spheres of influence, a 93,000-ton American aircraft carrier might "spontaneously" fireball in mid-ocean; in reality removed from the face of the earth by an unheard and unseen Sunburn missile, launched by a submerged Russian submarine more than fifty miles away.
In August and September 2003, the Russian and Chinese navies held large independent exercises in the Pacific, both coincidentally designed to, "Simulate sinking aggressive American carrier battle groups". No prizes for guessing the name of the principal weapon system selected for this challenging task. During September, the Chinese missile destroyer "Fuzhou" fired a Sunburn with a practice warhead, which high-speed cameras then recorded striking the center of the white cross on the hull of the target vessel, located more than 60 nautical miles away from the firing point. Terminal attack profile was Mach 2.05 at an altitude of 22 feet.



These exercises took place while the Zionist media was hyping up public opinion against that nasty "Rogue State" North Korea, allegedly brimming with fictional "Weapons of Mass Destruction" being manufactured specifically for sale to Iran, or so you were led to believe by CNN, NBC, Fox News and many others. In turn, Iran was allegedly itching to mount the fictional weapons on multiple launchers, then fire the lot at poor little Israel, all alone and unarmed at the eastern end of the Mediterranean. Plans were made to intercept Korean ships on the high seas for inspection, and Australia obsequiously offered to send a gunboat. But then Australia always offers to send a gunboat when a lowly clerk in the White House snaps his or her fingers.
Those readers with long memories will recall that the Korean War of the fifties was all about spheres of influence. In other words the Korean War was a surrogate war, with America and Britain backing the south while Russia and China backed the north. Though sixty years have passed since the end of the Korean War, this proxy position has not changed, and North Korea is still viewed by Russia and China as firmly within their spheres of influence. Thus the diplomatic signal generated by the large Russian and Chinese naval exercises was clear and unambiguous: "Hands off North Korea, or else!" Within days of the Chinese Sunburn launch, which was observed and logged by two American spy planes, Washington went uncharacteristically quiet about the Korean peninsula, and remains so today.
Perhaps for the first time in contemporary American history, Washington was being forced to come to grips with a new and very harsh reality. Though the United States was allowed [in fact discreetly encouraged] to become horribly bogged down in Afghanistan and Iraq, it was no longer allowed to interfere anywhere else in the world. Massive American aircraft carriers were no longer free to roam around looking for helpless prey, and Russia or China, sometimes both in tandem, started riding shotgun on all American adventures in the Eastern Hemisphere.
Effectively denied sea [and most land] access to the Eastern Hemisphere, it was not long before the Zionists decided to play what they thought was their trump card, declaring that their absolute right of self-defence allowed them to launch Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles [ICBMs] of sixties vintage, against "terrorist targets" on the other side of the world. Though such weapons might appear to have the advantage of not needing direct sea or land access in the Eastern Hemisphere, this twisted Zionist thinking was quickly proved to be panicky and entirely delusional.
On 17 October 2003, Russian President Vladimir Putin responded to this crude threat, pointing out that although Russia had scrapped hundreds of its ICBMs under various disarmament treaties, it still has a "significant amount" of SS-19 intercontinental ballistic missiles that had never been previously deployed, and thus were not part of disarmament negotiations, which remain mothballed for emergency use. "These are the most powerful rockets in the world", Putin said, adding they would be the perfect weapons for breaking through any potential American missile defense shield. Unconfirmed rumor suggests that Russia has a minimum of two hundred unused SS-19s in storage. Within 48-hours of this stern Russian warning, frantic Zionist talk of firing ICBMs at "terrorist targets" in the Eastern Hemisphere became muted, then stopped completely.
Just one week later on 24 October, President Putin redefined the limits of American access in the Eastern Hemisphere when he opened a new Russian air base at Kant in Kyrgyzstan, just twenty miles to the east of a rented American base at Manas, used for supporting "counter terrorist" operations in Afghanistan. And while a squadron of cutting-edge Russian Sukhoi 27 multi-role aircraft screamed overhead performing complex aerobatics at the opening ceremony, the Chinese quietly moved a squadron of their own Sukhoi 27s up to Kashi air base, which is the closest airfield to their own border with Kyrgyzstan. Completely coincidental timing of course, and anyone who suggests otherwise will be labeled a "conspiracy theorist" by CNN, NBC, Fox News and many others.



Appreciating that his opposite number in America is intellectually challenged, Vladimir Putin said a few words at the opening ceremony designed to be catchy enough to reach the frontal lobes of President Bush’s brain: "By building up an aviation shield in Kyrgyzstan", he said, "we aim to strengthen the security of this region, whose stability is an increasingly significant factor." Vladimir Putin went on to emphasize that Kant air base was now, "a deterrent for terrorists and extremists of ALL kinds". A master of understatement, Putin failed to mention that the Sukhoi 27s assigned to Kant, and landing on the runway in front of him as he spoke, were all equipped with distinctive Sunburn centerline mounts. Presumably the Chinese jets at Kashi are similarly equipped.
The gloves were off, and with American and Israel still unable to steal any oil from Iraq because someone keeps blowing the pipelines, this Russian and Chinese firepower buildup suddenly slammed the door firmly shut on Caspian oil reserves in the old Soviet republics. For more than a decade American oil multinationals have been conducting "joint ventures" in the former Soviet republics bordering the Caspian Sea, with the stated intent of pumping this stolen crude oil out through Turkey, then on to western markets. Now this route has been blocked permanently, and America is in no position to do anything about it, because a large part of the U.S. conventional army is currently bogged down in Iraq, being shot at and killed on a daily basis.



In terms of protecting Eastern Hemisphere oil reserves from the Zionist crusaders, Russia still had one more hurdle to clear, in the form of Moscow-based Zionist Jew Mikhail Khodorkovsky. When the Soviet Union collapsed in 1991, Khodorkovsky acted as the principal Zionist front man, grabbing cheap oil assets in rigged auctions. In 1995 he pulled the same trick again, rigging an auction at which he paid a mere $200 million for Yukos, a Russian oil major worth at least $14 billon.
Control of Yukos made Khodorkovsky very dangerous to Russian national security, because the company controls nearly two thirds of Russia’s strategic oil pipelines, including most of those feeding Eastern Europe. Russia is now the second-largest oil producer in the world, and Khodorkovsky’s actions prove he intended to exploit this, by selling 51% of Yukos to ExxonMobil, America’s largest oil multinational. In turn, this would have placed Russian crude oil reserves under direct Zionist control, a situation the Kremlin was not prepared to tolerate.
Mikhail Khodorkovsky was arrested while en-route to the Russian Far East, though rumor suggests he knew about the plan to arrest him, and actually intended to flee the country via Vladivostok. A spokesman for Yukos said that government security agents rushed Khodorkovsky's private jet at 5am on Saturday during a refuelling stop in Siberia, shouting, "Weapons on the floor or we'll shoot." Khodorkovsky initially faces seven charges including fraud and tax evasion, with possible [consecutive] jail sentences of up to forty years. It could get far worse if prosecutors add the charge of treason, for undermining Russian national security.
Within hours of Khodorkovsky’s arrest, the Zionist media went berserk, stating that the arrest would "damage investor confidence" in Russia, and further claiming that, "without new investors, Russia will be in big economic trouble". This is garbage, because Russia is now the second largest producer of oil in the world, and has eager buyers for all of its oil products. About the last thing Russia needs or wants today, is a pack of Zionist "investors" trying to skim their traditional 10% off Russia’s oil profits.
In slightly more than a single decade, Russia ’s fortunes have come full circle. Back in 1989, General Secretary Mikhail Gorbachev sold Russia and its peoples to the Zionists in return for two gold American Express cards and unlimited free shopping for his wife on Fifth Avenue. During the years that followed, Russians underwent almost unbelievable hardships, with old age pensions vanishing into thin air [or into a New York Zionist bank], and starvation became quite common in the provinces. Russians fared no better under "democratic" Boris Yeltsin, but Vladimir Putin is an entirely different matter. In just a few short years as President of Russia, Putin has turned everything upside down, and probably set in train the final destruction of Zionist influence worldwide.
Put simply, America is now completely broke. The U.S. dollar is falling like a stone and unemployment is climbing through the roof. Most of America’s manufacturing capacity was shifted years ago to "cheap labor" countries overseas, and there is no practical way of getting it back. For nearly twelve months the Dow Jones Index has been rigged by computers, desperately trying to create an illusion of relative wealth. At the beginning of this year the only chance America and Israel had of staying afloat, was to steal and sell oil from the Caspian, Iraq and Russia, but this entire strategy has now either collapsed or been blocked by Russia and China.
Where America and Americans go after this is a very good question, but, as you might expect, the Zionists have a fall back plan, at least for them. When things eventually get completely untenable, the Zionists will fall back on "Fortress Americas", a top-secret initiative designed to change the face of the earth as we now know it. So sensitive is this information, that when a small group of British Marconi defence scientists stumbled on some of the data during the eighties, they very swiftly died in murders dressed up as suicides.
Hopefully I will be writing a detailed report about "Fortress Americas" sometime during the next month, though this particular report may have to be restricted to a prepaid "snail mail" edition, in an attempt to raise limited funds for my work. Currently, research costs are exceeding my disposable income, derived almost entirely from a very small disability pension, which steadily decreases in buying power as each week goes by. If my financial affairs should inexplicably improve during the next few weeks, rest assured that I will post the "Fortress Americas" report openly on this site for free access.

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Halva:

Yes, this is the type of "stuff" I am writing about. There is however one small little detail that was left out and that is there is a weapon more powerful than "sunburn" and does not need to be launched by a missle or submarine and can be controlled and detonated from lets say from Portland, Oregon and destroy all of Russia in 1/1000000000 of a second. With only the ground remaining.
Keep your eyes on the bouncing ball!!!

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Interpretation of Gaicon's last post my toys are bigger than your toys, so don't F*** with me. -/_010011000111001111000001_/-

Hey gaicon, the reptilians are now absent from the English skies, the lemurians demonstrated that fact to me yesterday.

Care to comment?

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Originally posted by suckingeggs:
Interpretation of Gaicon's last post my toys are bigger than your toys, so don't F*** with me. -/_010011000111001111000001_/-

Hey gaicon, the reptilians are now absent from the English skies, the lemurians demonstrated that fact to me yesterday.

Care to comment?


Yes, I can read from your posts that you have no idea what I am writing about! I do not have this weapon at my fingertips, I just know who does and who devloped it when and where, thats all! Your language is quite offensive and rude and you should be ashamed of yourself for allowing yourself to be so offensive. I am no different than anyone else except I wish to help in some way and yes that even means helping you also even though I may not wish too...but you are a human being and that is all, if you were anything else...well I do not wish to be rude as you!

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Joe Vialls is a populist writer I don't much like because of his subscribing to bullshit theories of nuclear deterrence. And Gaiacomm is on the same wavelength. We have had this out before.

Get it straight, Gaiacomm, do you want people to be frightened of Putin, or do you want Putin to be frightened of you?

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Originally posted by halva:
Joe Vialls is a populist writer I don't much like because of his subscribing to bullshit theories of nuclear deterrence. And Gaiacomm is on the same wavelength.(NO I JUST UNDERSTAND WHAT IS WRITTEN. We have had this out before.

Get it straight, Gaiacomm, do you want people to be frightened of Putin, or do you want Putin to be frightened of you?


(I AM NO THREAT TO ANYONE, BUT PEOPLE SHOULD WATCH PUTIN'S MOVEMENTS AND ACTIONS AND ESPECIALLY THE RUSSIAN PEOPLE WHO WILL SUFFER IN THE END! HALVA HAVE YOU FORGOT TO ANSWER MY QUESTIONS FROM MY LAST 2 POSTS AGO?
HALVA WHAT HAVE YOU DONE FOR FREEDOM LATELY?

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Gaiacomm, I have expended energy defending you against charges of being a phony.

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Phony and a troll, wearing my patience thin dragging down this forum.

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Originally posted by halva:
Gaiacomm, I have expended energy defending you against charges of being a phony.

Halva: So have I defending myself as well. So I am finished with this chapter!
You and others like you are also phony as well!

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Originally posted by FLKook:
Phony and a troll, wearing my patience thin dragging down this forum.

Have fun!

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To: Members and Guests:
I know this will not come to you all as a surprise but due to the current situation in Iraq and other hot spots that involve US and its allies in an effort to eliminate terror I have been politely asked to cease all public activities up to and including public forums that involve message boards unauthorized press releases, public comments of opnions and facts from a technical nature. This of course includes haap2 information.I must comply with Homeland Security mandates, period! I am quite aware that I did not disclose entirely the inner workings of haarp and that was due to professional protocol. In the beginning I did strongly consider releases to educate and inform but quickly realized the audience and its lack of real concern was mixing words and quick to critize. Some of you were correct that I did not belong on this forum for whatever reasons. I attempted to use this as a oulet for honest exchange but failed. In short I made a mistake posting on this forum and I apologize to all if I offened anyone in any way. This board is an excellent way to vent frustration at the system and in some cases even make a dollar or two.
The nature of my current project and its relationship with the US has forced me back into the world of the "MATRIX". I know that if I do not return and assist there is a high probability that some of the claims and technology that exists will be developed and possibly used against anyone that forces that objective. I am not alone but have been recalled with others to go back underground for a time. The website and its project will still be there to view but will not disclose confidential information. After careful viewing you can read the advisor and management list that is quite diverse at this point in time. And the list is growing. The front page of the website even displays a small taste of product and technoloy. I have to refrain from disclosing compromising information that could be used to compete.
The chemtrail website is and has been under watchful eye from those that are paid to report abnormal variations in the normal flow. My brief stay here has caused a small ripple that was picked up and acted upon.

I will say that a great majority of information that is posted here has great merit but rememeber that the whole truth is and will never be allowed to make it for the public to see. There are secerts that are kept tighter than you can imagine and only small scraps thrown out to keep the dogs at bay. Of course one thing that cannot be prevented is the individual right to think and reason and that is what keeps the holders of secrets on their toes. We can all think and reason and can be right with our assumptions so what happens is "they" provide dis-informers and the like to keep us confused. And those of us that know we are right nobody cares to listen. So the frustration!
Some of you will accept my words and some of you will not. That is expected.
But I do wish to go on record that I was here and posted all that is here and did give an honest response.
Technology is dangerous if not properly managed and controlled. Such is haarp and other projects like it. The outcome is the slow and painful suffering and eventual death of all creatures on planet earth thru posioned air land and sea! I never thought that water would cost more than fuel!
I will attempt to answer questions and inform where permisable but I guess that does not fullfil the intent of this website.
I am done posting!

So you have your answer!

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