posted 09-25-2003 08:56 PM            

OK a*****e (KNOW THIS) what is my agenda?
I'll quote your b******t in case you forgot.

Professor, go ahead now and tell me just how wrong I am. I'm fully aware of your agenda and couldn't care less.

You know something I don't? usually I don't come off this brash even on Mech, but you seriously don't know what the hell your talking about on any matter that I've read on these forums. And further if I had an agenda for whatever paranoid reason you think why would I waste my time on a forum of all places? frankly I don't care what your response is because to me you have nothing to offer period!

posted 09-25-2003 09:23 PM            

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Originally posted by the professor:
nice to see other sides (unless of your your conservative)
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Glad you are posting professor.
We disagree,
but you post honestly held beliefs and opionions.
That earns my respect.

Always saddened that conservatives are so opposed to other sides' presenting honest opinions and facts.

As Sgt. Gatley said, in 1970
(watching body bags and sacks of drugs being loaded onto Air America transports)

We fight, so they have the freedom to protest against us.
(not quoted because my memory is over 30 years old)

the strength of america was that all had freedom of speech.
not just those cowed into parroting the opinions of the vocal and violent majority,
but also those who held truth above popularity.

"Jet te accuse"
The one lone journalist who protested the wrongful imprisonment of an innocent man on Devil's Island.
the lone Liberal who protested the government's official lie,
to coverup for the guilty and place blame on an innocent instead.
Same as it ever was;
Same as it ever was;
Same as it ever was;

Only difference?
It's in English/American instead of German this time around/IMWIO

posted 09-25-2003 09:25 PM            

Juilian Penrod: [i cant post in the forum the thred is in]

If you view this thread....this is in response to your Dryclone theory, which i must say seems reasonable.

Would that have been a dryclone front that was stretched out along the entire east coast that Isabel ran into?

If as you say those replacement water particles are present along that huge front, Are those particles pulled along with that front?

Makes some sense and logic, why directly spray a Cane when you could possibly deplete its strength by introducing a Huge Dry air mass with said particles that would say decrease its strength faster then a natural dry air mass....

In this same post i cannot say that i agree with the current "chemtrail" terminology but i do admit that things seem different the last cple years especially with that blanket type cloud cover that we get off and on.

posted 09-25-2003 10:01 PM            

On opposite sides of most opinions.

That's America;
like it oughta' be!

"We all love our country;
We all believe in our system of government.

We're just arguing over the details." -Jack Kemp(R) {Dole/Kemp-96}

I think (hope) most of us agree with that.

posted 09-25-2003 10:40 PM               

I read that link the first time and again just now but STILL do not get the idea of friendly fire from it – sorry. Maybe I’m NOT so smart after all (hee, hee).

Shatoga quote:
Ain't no "all about" there.

posted 09-25-2003 11:56 PM            

Always saddened that conservatives are so opposed to other sides' presenting honest opinions and facts.

As Sgt. Gatley said, in 1970
(watching body bags and sacks of drugs being loaded onto Air America transports)

We fight, so they have the freedom to protest against us.
(not quoted because my memory is over 30 years old)
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You were so "right on" to V.W., who may not be a V.W. at all! That was certainly uncalled for and full of the emotion of obvious ignorance. But don't be sad, because many vets are waking up and there are organizations of vets outraged. Why even look at a retired general running for president who rages against the administration and the Iraq invasion! Senators, Congress people, and many, many citizens daily are awakening to the truth! We ain't seen nuffin yet!

Yes, we need a defense system to defend out nation from attack, but we do not need to use our soldiers to overtake poor defenseless countries and sacrifice their lives for oil. Have you read Mech's offerings of Skolnick's research? Now that'll send any huff mommy heil Bushite through the roof! And what's even not funnier is that his theories and investigation might well be the truth! I thought he was nuts when I first read him early last year, but now? It's amazing stuff! Huffington, Moore, Palast, William Rivers Pitt, and all those dedicated investigative journalists are helping to get the truth out and we're helping too! Don't give up!

Even Kucinich knows about chemtrails! Amazing, heh?

I live in the home of Star Wars and NORAD, and do you think it's easy being a liberal minded person here? I love my soldiers and their families, but I don't love seeing them mistreated! I want them home! I didn't want them going over because I knew it wasn't a just and even-handed situation before the order was given. Saddened by those Dems who gave Bush power, it seemed another nail in the U.S. coffin. I cried and I wrote! I even wrote an article that was published!

Don't you think enough truth is coming to the large media surface now that the neocons can't hide it anymore, at least on some obvious surface levels? The U.N. is pulling out of Iraq, the speech flopped, and outrage is undulating across our land and started in Europe and in our peace communities way before anyone else noticed and before the WMD debacle, before the schemes and lies even surfaced! We knew they were such all along! It was comforting to see them caught red-handed and someday they will all be held accountable as the Lord is our witness!

So let's have pity on our ignorant and brainwashed brothers and sisters! We can call a spade a spade once they've lost it, but maybe we could reach someone in our everyday lives, just one person a week who doesn't quite "SEE" by giving them some information. Print out something to give them, talk to them, maybe just listen. Somehow I feel confident that the truth will come out now, ever so increasingly every day! I hold that faith in my heart, I hold that vision in my mind!

And Professor? I don't know what your disagreements are, but I'll keep reading and find out. Maybe we can debate some issue here? I love a great intellectual debate! It's the heart of our freedom!

Tally Ho! All! Keep peace in our hearts!

Boomer Chick

posted 09-26-2003 06:29 PM            

"frankly I don't care what your response is because to me you have nothing to offer period!"

You do care, a whole lot, that's why you responded with such animosity. Hardly the reaction of someone who doesn't care. Anyway, we see just how dedicated you are to your morality. Your just another statistic, a relegious zealot with a foul mouth and a taste for hypocrisy. Without little Seeker and F-walker you are nothing. You're trying so hard to put up one last desperate fight, it's pathetic. Why don't you vanish off for another vacation. In fact, I know the perfect place for you. I'll send you a one-way ticket to hell.

posted 09-26-2003 07:46 PM            

Professor-
On the other hand is someone who honestly believes what s/he posts.

I respect honest beliefs and opinions.

FW and $eeker posted whatever Rush had said that day.

Professor disagrees with my views on almost every subject.
But it is an honest difference of opinion.

I was once a conservative & know many good people of clear conscience are still conservatives.

It's our job to prove to them that neo-cons are neither conservatives nor patriots.

The burden falls on us.

I once changed sides because of overwhelming truths.
Let the doors stay open for others who also value truth above politics.

posted 09-26-2003 10:43 PM            

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Originally posted by shatoga:
It's our job to prove to them that neo-cons are neither conservatives nor patriots.

The burden falls on us.

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Shatoga,

That may be true with some people. Am I correct in that you are Native American (if yes, what tribe?)

Isn't there the story of The Scorpion? The one where a turtle helps a scorpion cross the river on his back. The scorpion asks the turtle why would he help a creature such as himself. "It's my nature", said the turtle.

Half way across the river, the scorpion stings the turtle, and they both start to drown. The turtle asks why did you do that. The scorpion answers, "It's my nature". i think it was on a Star trek episode that i saw it, but my Ukranian/Polish grandma had a similar tale of rabbits and wolves.

I guess my point is, some people cannot be changed, and you either ignore them, or chase them out of your house. Should our energies go to the people who want to share their ideas and love, and not be wasted on people that refuse to see?

posted 09-26-2003 11:16 PM            

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Originally posted by swamp gas:

Shatoga,

That may be true with some people. Am I correct in that you are Native American (if yes, what tribe?)

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Chicora Siouan
underhill/and Welsh mix

& no; I am not he same 'shatoga' (greywolf)
that scalped Custer.

would that I were!