posted 11-09-2003 09:53 PM            

Are the zionists the same people as the NWO?

What about the Illuminati? are they the same people?

posted 11-09-2003 10:34 PM            

http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/ubb/Forum6/HTML/001442.html

But its too obvious you don't believe us....

JUST LIKE you don't believe the US GOVT was responsible for 9-11.

So...why don't YOU do the research, genius...after all it's CRYSTAL CLEAR that you are DELIBERATELY trying to make light of a SERIOUS topic.

posted 11-10-2003 12:22 AM            

Makow - Rothschilds Conduct 'Red Symphony'
The 20th Century Unveiled
By Henry Makow PhD
11-9-3

posted 11-10-2003 10:17 AM            

Ellyn’s articles indicate that it is the ultimate goal of the Zionists to force Armageddon upon us. Is that what the NWO wants also? Are the Christian Zionists looking for “Rapture?” What about profit and power? How will the NWO be able to maintain their power and “Elite” status after Armageddon and the Rapture?

If Bush and his NWO cronies are trying to take over Iraq, why are the Zionists, working against that goal?

Once again, aren’t the Zionists in control of the western Media and key parts of the U.S. government?

If Al queda is fighting against the Zionists and the Bush government, and you are against the Bush Government, doesn’t that make you an ally with the terrorist?

posted 11-10-2003 10:46 AM            

Just keep wavin' the Chinese slave made plastic desecrated American flag Wolf.

Like I said...YOU do the research.

posted 11-24-2003 12:54 AM            

Makow - Why the Bankers Love The Left
Anti Capitalism, Anti Semitism Are Diversions
By Henry Makow PhD
11-23-3

Count Cherep-Spiridovitch was a Czarist general who battled the Bolsheviks in the 1917 Russian Revolution.

In 1926 he published a book entitled "The Secret World Government" which shows how the Rothschilds' plan for world tyranny ("the Jewish Conspiracy") dominates modern history.

Secret World Government is generally considered "right wing" and "anti Semitic."

The "right wing" and "anti Semitic" smear is revealing:

1) It shows the extent society already has been brainwashed and subverted.

2) It reveals how the bogus issue of anti Semitism is used to deflect attention from a genuine and mortal threat to humanity.

3) It explains the true meaning of "right wing" and why the Left is an instrument of the Bankers.


LOOK AT THE US CIVIL WAR

Compare the treatment of this war in "The Secret World Government" with "A Peoples History of the United States" by Howard Zinn, a Leftist.

Cherep-Spiridovitch cites an interview with the German chancellor Otto von Bismarck in 1876. Bismarck explained that the Rothschilds who controlled Europe were afraid the United States would become independent of them if it remained one nation.

"They foresaw tremendous booty if they could substitute two feeble democracies indebted to the Jewish financiers to the vigorous republic confident and self providing. Therefore they started their emissaries in order to exploit the question of slavery and thus to dig an abyss between the two parts of the republic." (180)

The Illuminati used the Masonic "Knights of the Golden Circle" formed in 1854 by George W. L. Bickley, to spread racial tension by making slavery an issue. Members included Lincoln assassin John Wilkes Booth, Confederate President Jefferson Davis, and his adviser Judah P. Benjamin, the Confederate Secretary of War, a Rothschild agent.
The plan was to divide the United Sates between England controlled by Lionel Rothschild and France, controlled by James Rothschild. France was to take over the whole South while Canada annexed the defeated North. In 1863 France and Spain invaded Mexico with 30,000 troops. The embattled Confederate States actually offered Louisiana and Texas to France in exchange for its assistance.

Britain, France and other European powers were ready to enter the war but were deterred by Russia, the only European power not in the Rothschild's thrall. Czar Alexander II sent his fleets to New York and San Francisco and declared that an attack on Lincoln was an attack on Russia.

Meanwhile Lincoln created "greenback" dollars to finance the war and escape indebtedness to the foreign financiers. "They understood at once that the United States would escape their grip," Bismarck said." The death of Lincoln was resolved upon. Nothing is easier than to find a fanatic to strike." (180) (See also The Civil War and Control of Money. http://user.pa.net/~drivera/14controlmoney.htm)

Compare this with Howard Zinn who although a Leftist, makes no mention of European financiers. His book, a soap opera of oppression, depicts the war as a clash of "elites."

"The Northern elite wanted economic expansion.... The slave interests opposed all that. " (189) Again, "The American government had set out to ... retain the enormous national territory and market and resources. " (198)
In other words "capitalism" in general and not the Rothschild Illuminati caused this heinous war that cost 500,000 soldiers' lives and eight billion dollars. Is it any wonder these bankers, who are the real establishment, love the Left? Is it any wonder they populate our universities with pious Leftists (and Feminists) who never question why they are pulling down big salaries if they are really defying the establishment?

Another Leftist Pied Piper is Noam Chomsky who attributes all evil to capitalism and American imperialism. As far as I know, he never mentions the Rothschilds, the lluminati, the Council on Foreign Relations or the New World Order. He pretends that Oklamhoma City and 9-11 were not inside jobs.

"We shall erase from the memories of men all facts of previous centuries which are undesirable to us," say the Protocols of the Elders of Zion. "And leave only those which depict all the errors of the government of the goyim." (Protocol 16)

The problem is not American capitalism but the control of the nation's credit by a small private international group, which has used this advantage to build a monopoly in every key industry. This international group is behind western imperialism. Its totalitarian occult agenda (a.k.a, globalism) is now the corporate policy of the world.

The victim paradigm typically purveyed by socialists like Zinn and Chomsky creates internal division and diverts attention from the Illuminati bankers and their cartels. It places the blame on capitalism and the US, which has been under their control for almost a century. It teaches each new generation to be alienated from their country, culture and economic system, and to become dysfunctional and impotent.

The bankers want Big Government that they control through debt. They need the global police state to ensure that no nation defaults or rebels. The invasion of Iraq is another step in creating the bankers' "1984" tyranny.


ANTI SEMITISM

Like Anti Americanism, Anti Semitism is another tactic to divert attention from the Rothschild's Satanic plan for world tyranny. Let's stop pretending it isn't real. It is the real source of Communism, the real cause of mankind's moral paralysis and demise.

Cherep-Spiritovitch concludes:

"According to Bismarck the awful Civil War in America was fomented by a Jewish Conspiracy, and Abraham Lincoln the hero and national saint of the United States was killed by the same Hidden Hand which killed six Romanov Czars, ten kings and scores of Ministers only to easier bleed their nations." (181)

He is not talking about Jews in general but only those who belong to the Rothschild Illuminati agenda. His book makes an appeal to righteous Jews, and recognizes that many gentiles have sold out.

"The Jews should bring to bay the 'Satanists' who corrupt the countries in which they have found asylum," the Preface says: " the Gentiles should render every Judas who accepts the bribes of the Jews."

Why do so many Jews think they are responsible for the Rothschilds and the Illuminati? They are not. They should stop acting like they were. It looks suspicious.

The bankers' Satanic Conspiracy is the source of anti Semitism. The sooner Jews rise up to oppose it; the sooner anti Semitism will end.

Obviously many so-called Christians are involved. When I criticize Rockefeller, no one says anything about "anti Christianism."
Who actually is behind the terrorist attacks in Turkey last week, including those on synagogues? Throughout history the Illuminati have used terror to control people and incite war. A CIA agent was maimed preparing a bomb in the Philippines recently. These attacks may be designed to prove the war on terror is genuine rather than a flimsy pretext for a police state. http://www.jihadunspun.com/intheatre_internal.php?article=84691&list=/home.php&


CONCLUSION

The Rothschild Illuminati Conspiracy is the essential challenge facing mankind. It must be addressed loudly and squarely. Attacks on American imperialism, capitalism and "hate" (anti Semitism) are cynical diversions.

The world is in the advanced stage of a diabolical multi generational conspiracy. The general method and goal have been revealed in The Protocols of the Elders of Zion. http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/przion1.htm Our educators, leaders and media have largely been subverted.

A "right wing crackpot" is anyone who favours individual freedom and self-reliance, family, nation, race, and God. These are the things that the Illuminati conspiracy needs to destroy.

As one time US Presidential candidate Norman Thomas said, "The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism. But under the name of 'liberalism' they will adopt every fragment of the Socialist program, until one day America will be a Socialist nation, without knowing how it happened." Substitute "Communist" for "Socialist" and you can see what is happening.

There is a curse that says may you "live in interesting times." This is our curse and our challenge. Let us rise to it.

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Henry Makow Ph.D. is the inventor of the board game Scruples and the author of "A Long Way to go for a Date." His articles on feminism and the new world order are stored on his web site www.savethemales.ca He enjoys receiving comments at henry@savethemales.ca

posted 11-26-2003 01:55 AM            

"This report will shock and upset some; it is one I have put off for over 4 years. After struggling with it I have decided now is the time to write it. Knowing it could be misunderstood as anti-Semitic. God forbid that I a Jew should ever say or do anything that would be remotely considered as such, but I must admit this report does not come easy for me. The fact still remains that an evil force has been put into place in Jerusalem and has spread throughout Israel, in preparations for the end time and the seat of the anti-Christ. For if we are to believe that the anti-Christ is to have his seat on the Temple Mount, then we must come to grips with some truths not being preached today. One such truth is the foundation for such a move of the Devil must be underway even as we speak if this is to happen. Or we simply are not in the end days. This report will prove that such a move is underway and has been for quiet some time. It will be accepted by some and rejected by others, but that is the way it goes."

"For those who may think this article is anti-Semitic I ask you to read an article on (The House Of Satan) http://www.thegoldenreport.com/articles.asp?id=00135 for there are those who call themselves Jews but who are of the house of Satan. And many have found their way into the Israeli Knesset."