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Topic: Exposed: The Carlyle Group | Topic page views:
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JerseyBluEyz
Trust the Universe
Northeast
256 posts, Jul 2003
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posted 12-22-2003 12:49 AM
  
Here is a 45 minute video on the Carlyle Group. Here’s the translation of the first minute (it’s in Dutch - the rest is in English). This will give you an idea of it’s subject matter. Apparently, this was broadcast in the Netherlands. Wonder why it was not broadcast here?
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article3995.htm The war in Iraq is over. The rubble is still smoking while the first dozers are already entering the country.
After the coalition forces destroyed Baghdad it is now primarily American companies who are to rebuild Iraq. An interesting point is that these companies usually have people on the payroll who have been politicians. Is this a conflict of interests or a new (global) way of doing business? One of the corporations that work this way is the Carlyle Group. On their payroll are people like : George Bush (Sr.), James Baker III and old premier John Major. The Carlyle Group is a private investment bank which doesn't come to the publics attention very often but it is one of the biggest American (ed: USA) investors of the defense industry, telecom, property and financial services. What is the Carlyle Group? Who are the people behind the name? And how much power does Carlyle have?
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Mech
Dont sacrifice liberty for security
Northeast USA
4949 posts, Sep 2002
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posted 12-22-2003 01:01 AM
Lets not forget the Bin Laden Family are on the Carlyle take as well.Thanks for the link...I'll have to watch the video soon.
[Edited 1 times, lastly by Mech on 12-22-2003]
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whitemajikman
Senior Member
76 posts, Dec 2003
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posted 12-22-2003 01:09 AM
the carlyle group also has the bin-ladens of suadi-arabia........and half the industrialists and movers and shakers of the financial community world-wide.........what you are failing to mention is that if a conspiracy lies in the carlyle group by all those individuals world-wide.....is that their might be a concensus.......and speculating if it is good or bad is just that speculation......nothing less, nothing more......unless you have undeniable,unequivicol........PROOF.................all of the speculation in the world will not make it true.......and that is where debate comes in dont you agree.....?
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Mech
Dont sacrifice liberty for security
Northeast USA
4949 posts, Sep 2002
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posted 12-22-2003 01:12 AM
Sorry....I'm not a fan of Greedy, Unaccountable private entities that do great harm to people andd control political destinies.No debate needed.
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whitemajikman
Senior Member
76 posts, Dec 2003
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posted 12-22-2003 02:52 AM
no debate required....huh......you know that is the most idiotic......prejudicial,single-mindeded un-balanced statements i have heard in a long,long time........you have truly proved by your statements and reactions that you cant even distinguish....... reality from fantasy......fact from fiction......or speculation from un-bridaled truth..........your hatred for all things not in your spectrum of thinking is evident........and you continually hide behind your position as a council member.....to further your agenda on this site as well as others.......it is true their is no room for hatred on this board or any other board for this is the year 2003......not 1962.......and you in your fanatacism and blind patriotism ....have become the thing you fear most.......your hatred is evident.........why hide it anymore or even try to rationalize it........you mech and your sidekick.....swampass....are blind patriot fanatics......or single-event fanatics.....or maybe just FANATICS........the more you talk the more evident it becomes......
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Mech
Dont sacrifice liberty for security
Northeast USA
4949 posts, Sep 2002
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posted 12-22-2003 02:55 AM
And you are bordering on both baiting and trolling.
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mark sky
~just_ice_ob~server~
south coast of oregon
3086 posts, Oct 2000
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posted 12-22-2003 03:23 AM
and the original subject was
~ba bing~
the CARLIELE group
but you have forgoten that by now
~FlA`Sh~
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whitemajikman
Senior Member
76 posts, Dec 2003
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posted 12-22-2003 03:24 AM
and you havent tried to manipulate the situation one bit.........not just you but swampgass too.......im not just a majikman im a poet too.and by the way whom judges your behaviour on this board.......?there must be somebody whom you are accountable to .......or have you relegated yourself supreme commander.......and if there is whom may that person be.........?for i wish to contact them as moderator im sure you can devulge that information........?
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Dionysus
New Member
Kingdom of Nye
24 posts, Nov 2003
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posted 12-22-2003 03:40 AM
here's how it works:subject started subject debated lines were drawn points were made that cannot be refuted by the party in power the party in power (here) starts threatening expulsion if conformity is not adhered to by the opposition party not the slightest bit of bias here...no no no...defenders of the constitution you call yourselves. mr. sky made a clever observation I see not much has changed since the last time I visted, except the kook entity has yet to ban someone... guess the night is still young right mech?
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the professor
KNOW YOUR ROLE
heartland USA
1100 posts, Jan 2003
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posted 12-22-2003 01:00 PM
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swamp gas
Bird Man of Hudson County
Jersey City, NJ
1130 posts, May 2002
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posted 12-22-2003 01:14 PM
quote:
Originally posted by whitemajikman:
there must be somebody whom you are accountable to .......or have you relegated yourself supreme commander.......and if there is whom may that person be.........?for i wish to contact them as moderator im sure you can devulge that information........?
Here's the guy in charge of this site, and his helpers. You can contact him:
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whitemajikman
Senior Member
76 posts, Dec 2003
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posted 12-22-2003 01:25 PM
swampgass ........so thats what you think of the council....?or who ever is in charge........bit by bit.....your prejudice and hatred....and your lack of clarity will be your undoing.......keep talking ....prove my point some more.....
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JerseyBluEyz
Trust the Universe
Northeast
256 posts, Jul 2003
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posted 12-22-2003 02:16 PM
quote:
Originally posted by whitemajikman:
swampgass ........so thats what you think of the council....?or who ever is in charge........bit by bit.....your prejudice and hatred....and your lack of clarity will be your undoing.......keep talking ....prove my point some more.....
Do you not see that the accusations you are throwing at Mech and Swamp are proving YOU to be the fanatic, unstable, unbalanced, etc. Swamp is not mocking anyone here on the board with posting that photo. If anything, he’s trying to lighten up the hatred that is seeping through the threads of this board right now. Now for some symbolical insight – this is not meant as an attack. Mech and Swamp are simply a mirror of what YOU subconsciously see within your own soul but will not admit. Instead, you project the various aspects of your own fears onto others. I’m sorry, but you are casting stones in a glass house. Fear takes on many forms be it hatred, prejudice, dishonesty, jealousy, any negative emotion or action. You came here like a rabid dog on the attack. Please reread some of the words you’ve posted – I hope you will see the mirror’s reflection.
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Mech
Dont sacrifice liberty for security
Northeast USA
4949 posts, Sep 2002
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posted 12-22-2003 02:19 PM
ROFL!!!Magic man..clam up will ya! I never saw someone with so much self-importance.
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swamp gas
Bird Man of Hudson County
Jersey City, NJ
1130 posts, May 2002
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posted 12-22-2003 02:23 PM
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whitemajikman
Senior Member
76 posts, Dec 2003
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posted 12-22-2003 02:51 PM
i will not lighten up.....and i will not be diverted.....you have made many claims and distinctions......that are fanatical....and your hatred is evident......oh and jersey ...thats not the message my e-mail is overflowing with........in fact ....a lot of people here are starting to see the light ....regarding mech and swampgas....and their 1sided fanatical views........so remember...your view is only one of many.......and in trying to shield mech and swampgas......from them being accountable for their actions......in my oppinion......is a tactic...at best....
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Mech
Dont sacrifice liberty for security
Northeast USA
4949 posts, Sep 2002
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posted 12-22-2003 02:53 PM
No..YOU are "fanatical"...2 faced, and a liar who makes Threats.You are starting to become a Troll.
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whitemajikman
Senior Member
76 posts, Dec 2003
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posted 12-22-2003 03:00 PM
i think you are full of fear of exposure and are unable to debate your position....so you are running....and now your hatred is definitely shining thru.......so whom is the troll........?
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Mech
Dont sacrifice liberty for security
Northeast USA
4949 posts, Sep 2002
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posted 12-22-2003 03:04 PM
No I just don't debate with someone whose INTENTION is to attack me personally instead of my ideas.I'm "exposed" all over the place at CTC.I let it all hang out.
[Edited 1 times, lastly by Mech on 12-22-2003]
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whitemajikman
Senior Member
76 posts, Dec 2003
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posted 12-22-2003 03:15 PM
your fear of debate is staggering in its implications.........you are your worst own enemy.......and i kind of find it a little disturbing that a moderator that supposedly stands by his ideals.....will not debate those ideals in public.........you are the troll and the liar and the one who has no ethics........for you hide behind that false patriotism.......and cant even back up your position when called upon......i started a debate thread but you dont debate.......you just wish i would leave before everyone knows.....that mech and swampgas are indeed un-balanced prejudiced,hate mongers......whom care about nothing ......but your own personal agenda......screw the facts.......twist the history.......use your hateful battle cries.....to further a delusional outlook of what you think is un-bridaled truth.....when obviously it is pure speculation.......nothing more nothing less........
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Mech
Dont sacrifice liberty for security
Northeast USA
4949 posts, Sep 2002
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posted 12-22-2003 03:20 PM
Your opinion...nothing else.I just don't like you magic man. You are 2 faced. I want nothing to do with someone like that.
[Edited 1 times, lastly by Mech on 12-22-2003]
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swamp gas
Bird Man of Hudson County
Jersey City, NJ
1130 posts, May 2002
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posted 12-22-2003 03:21 PM
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Dionysus
New Member
Kingdom of Nye
24 posts, Nov 2003
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posted 12-23-2003 04:36 AM
just figured I would give mech another chance to reply:/// here's how it works: subject started subject debated lines were drawn points were made that cannot be refuted by the party in power the party in power (here) starts threatening expulsion if conformity is not adhered to by the opposition party not the slightest bit of bias here...no no no...defenders of the constitution you call yourselves. mr. sky made a clever observation I see not much has changed since the last time I visted, except the kook entity has yet to ban someone... guess the night is still young right mech?
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Mech
Dont sacrifice liberty for security
Northeast USA
4949 posts, Sep 2002
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posted 12-23-2003 04:38 AM
Keep it up.
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Dionysus
New Member
Kingdom of Nye
24 posts, Nov 2003
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posted 12-23-2003 04:55 AM
whaaa...gonna attempt to ban me too!all by your lonesome..like WMM! truth hurts the ones who try to supress it
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