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JerseyBluEyz
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Northeast
839 posts, Jul 2003

posted 12-22-2003 01:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for JerseyBluEyz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh boy! This idea had better get squashed and QUICK!
http://www.sltrib.com/2003/Jul/07162003/nation_w/75857.asp?q=q

WASHINGTON -- Sen. Orrin Hatch wants to terminate the constitutional prohibition against foreign-born citizens such as Arnold Schwarzenegger and others from becoming president.

Article II of the Constitution says that, "No Person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of president."

Hatch is seeking to amend the Constitution to remove the ban, allowing anyone who has been a citizen of the United States for two decades to run for the country's highest office.

"This restriction has become an anachronism that is decidedly un-American," Hatch, the chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee and one-time presidential candidate, said when he introduced the change last week.

But retired University of Alabama history professor Forrest McDonald said the prohibition made sense when it was included in the Constitution "and I'm not sure the reasoning is entirely outdated."

He said that 15 years before the Constitution was written, foreign operatives from Russia, Prussia and Austria conspired to get a favorable monarch elected to lead Poland. Once in place, the country was divided up among the three powers.

"The American Fathers were acutely sensitive to the prospect," McDonald said. He said it is unlikely, although not inconceivable, that something like that could happen today.

His other argument against the amendment: Arnold Schwarzenegger.

The "Terminator" star has been flirting with running as a Republican for governor of California, and with money, charisma and name recognition could make a strong candidate for president -- but he was born in Austria.

"I'm scared of the man," McDonald said.

Hatch spokeswoman Margarita Tapia said the bill wasn't crafted to help Schwarzenegger.

"It was a policy judgment. It wasn't associated with a particular individual," she said.

Arkansas Rep. Vic Snyder, a Democrat, is sponsoring a similar version in the House that would require foreign-born citizens to wait 35 years before becoming president. Rep. Barney Frank, D-Mass., sponsored a constitutional amendment during the last Congress, but it didn't make it through the House Judiciary Committee.

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Mech
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The Minuteman State
5797 posts, Sep 2002

posted 12-22-2003 01:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mech   Visit Mech's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Gropen-Fuhrer (as some austrians call him) as President?

Boy...I don't know what to think.

I do know that it's ILLEGAL as the laws stand now.

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JerseyBluEyz
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839 posts, Jul 2003

posted 12-22-2003 01:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for JerseyBluEyz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
They've chopped up everything else lately, what's one more little law anyway?

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JerseyBluEyz
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posted 03-27-2004 01:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for JerseyBluEyz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Looks like they’re still at it! That’s right, just keep on passing those Amendments to the Constitution. Pretty soon we won’t even recognize it. Who am I fooling, it’s already unrecognizable!

http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/local/states/california/northern_california/8243259.htm


Posted on Sun, Mar. 21, 2004
Sen. Kennedy says Schwarzenegger should be allowed to run for president
Associated Press

WASHINGTON - Sen. Edward Kennedy believes his niece's husband, California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, should be allowed to run for president. Whether he would cross party lines to endorse him is another matter.

Kennedy, a Massachusetts Democrat, said on NBC's "Meet the Press" Sunday he supports a constitutional amendment allowing anyone who has been a U.S. citizen for at least 20 years to run for the White House.

But Kennedy stopped short of endorsing the husband of his niece, Maria Shriver.

"I watched him on your show, and I think you would agree Arnold's able, and he's smart, and he's doing a good job out there," Kennedy told host Tim Russert. "And he is married, he is married to one of the most wonderful people, Maria Shriver. And I'm still hopeful that, as things go along, that Maria will have more and more influence on Arnold. That's what I'm keeping my fingers crossed for."

The Austrian-born Schwarzenegger, a Republican, has said the constitutional amendment proposed by Sen. Orrin Hatch, R-Utah, "sounds really good."

Schwarzenegger, who became a U.S. citizen in 1983, previously told Russert he has not thought about running for president in the future. The Constitution says only natural-born citizens of the United States are eligible for the country's highest office.

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FLKook
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East Central Florida
1619 posts, Apr 2001

posted 03-27-2004 08:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FLKook     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've been following this too Jersey. It is a very bad idea but as you know TPTS have their own agenda. Have you visited the Schwarzenegger page on Alex Jones' site?
http://www.infowars.com/print/nwo/shwartz_section.htm

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JerseyBluEyz
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839 posts, Jul 2003

posted 03-27-2004 09:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JerseyBluEyz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks FLKook! I've seen some of that info but not all of it. I didn't know that was there! Can you imagine a Schwarzenegger and a Hillary Clinton ticket in 2008? woo hoo! I'd move out of this country for sure!

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