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letxa2000
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Mexico
128 posts, Dec 2003

posted 01-13-2004 12:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for letxa2000     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
From http://www.elnorte.
com/monterrey/articulo/379461/ (Paid subscription required unfortunately).

My translation is provided with the original article in Spanish at the end. In the English translation I have inserted some comments in brackets to help people understand things that those in Monterrey might not understand. I have also highlighted several phrases in boldface print.

Essentially, your heroes in Mexico are destroying and defacing public and private property.

Your heroes aren't just against free trade, they are anarchists.

The American and foreign businesses that were attacked are owned by Mexicans (at least 51% by law) and employee Mexicans.

As I suggested last night, many of the protestors are from Mexico City. You combine the "PT" party with "from Mexico City" and I can assure you most of them WERE PAID to be there.

It's fun watching what I stated last night be confirmed by today's news.

*** ENGLISH TRANSLATION:

Monterrey, Mexico (13 January 2004).- A protestor climbed with ease a wall and activated his spray: "Liberated territory" he wrote on the wall with red paint.

It was the first graffiti by the antiglobalization protsters in the Alameda Mariano Escobedo [a public park near downtown], where they setup their geranl base camp, and where the march began.

"The only thing I asked them was that they not create grafiti," said the administrator of the Alameda when he was notified of the graffiti at the monument.

The graffiti was a recurring action along the entire course of the protest, which ended near the Fundidora Park, in the Obrera neighbor, where the American Summit began yesterday with the participation of 31 heads of state.

During the course of the protest, some of the protesters--the most radical--left their marks on businesses and banks.

The "A" with a cirle around it, symbol of anarchy, was left on 7-11 and American fast food restauraunts that found themselves along the path of the protestors.

A soft drink distribution truck also received a "souvenir."

"Stop to Capitalism genocide" and "Monterrey says no to the Organization of American States" were other phrases that the protestors left on banks located on Juarez Aveue and on the curbs of Madero Avenue, where they marched, coming from collectives and groups of antiglobalization from Monterray AND MEXICO CITY.

The issue of the graffiti provoked friction with the state police that escorted the protestors. Despite positioning security forces, the agents were easily and quickly overrun by the protestors.

The passing of the protestors provoked distrust and uneasiness among the owners and employees of businesses that, at the request of police, shut their doors and lowered metal protecting doors.

The official banners of the Summit [that were hung by the city from lightposts] were also destroed by some protestors. Some of them were completely ripped from their posts and the pieces of wood [that held the banners to the posts] were used to form a security perimeter to prevent the police and journalists from entering the area.


*** ORIGINAL STORY IN SPANISH:

Monterrey, México (13 enero 2004).- Un manifestante trepó con habilidad al muro y accionó su spray: "Territorio Liberado", escribió en la pared con pintura roja.

Era la primera pinta de la jornada y los simpatizantes de la antiglobalización la habían realizado en la Alameda Mariano Escobedo, donde está montado su campamento general, y donde comenzó una marcha.

"Lo único que les pedí fue que no rayaran", dijo el administrador de la Alameda al percatarse del graffiti en el monumento.

Las pintas fueron una acción recurrente a lo largo de toda la manifestación, que concluyó en las inmediaciones del Parque Fundidora, en la colonia Obrera, donde ayer arrancó la Cumbre Extraordinaria de las Américas con la participación de 31 Jefes de Estado.

Durante el trayecto de la marcha, algunos de los manifestantes, lo más radicales, dejaron la huella de su movimiento en negocios y bancos.

La A, rodeada de un círculo, símbolo del anarquismo, quedó plasmada en los Seven Eleven y en los restaurantes de comida rápida de origen estadounidense, que se cruzaron en el camino de los marchistas.

Un camión repartidor de refrescos también se llevó su recuerdo.

"Alto al Capitalismo Genocida" y "Monterrey dice no a la OEA", fueron otras frases que los manifestantes dejaban en los bancos ubicados en la Avenida Juárez y en el camellón de Avenida Madero, donde desfilaron, provenientes de colectivos y grupos de antiglobalización de Monterrey y de la Ciudad de México.

El asunto de las pintas fue lo que provocó la fricción con los agentes de la Policía regia, que escoltaban la marcha. Pese a montar dispositivos de seguridad, los uniformados eran rebasados por la habilidad y rapidez de los manifestantes.

El paso de los manifestantes provocó desconfianza e inquietud entre los propietarios y empleados de los negocios, que, a petición de la Policía, cerraron sus puertas y bajaron sus cortinas metálicas.

Los pendones oficiales de la Cumbre de las Américas también fueron dañados por algunos de los marchistas. Varios de ellos fueron arrancados de los postes y sus palos de madera fueron utilizados para formar una valla de seguridad para impedir que policías y periodistas ingresaran a su espacio.

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JerseyBluEyz
Trust the Universe


Northeast
359 posts, Jul 2003

posted 01-13-2004 01:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JerseyBluEyz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by letxa2000:
Essentially, your heroes in Mexico are destroying and defacing public and private property.

Your heroes aren't just against free trade, they are anarchists.


Oh boy! I think you may have been out in that hot sun a little too long Mister.

NO ONE has claimed the protestors in Mexico as heroes. Get it through your head – the information provided on this site is just that – INFORMATION! We share it and discuss it. You quite close mindedly accused us of not reading or listening to “other” news last night. You don’t actually think that what is posted here is all we read now do you? As mentioned in the other Mexico thread (where this article would have been appropriately posted) you are listening to what appears to be mainstream media Bushite-type information. Again, same as what was fed about the Miami incident. Sounds to me like there are some pi$$ed off Mexicans that are fed up with the American way – plain and simple. I’d like to read some of the reports from alternative Mexican sources also or are you stopping at this source because it confirms your theory?

quote:
Originally posted by letxa2000:
It's fun watching what I stated last night be confirmed by today's news.

Really now?

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letxa2000
Senior Member


Mexico
128 posts, Dec 2003

posted 01-13-2004 01:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for letxa2000     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
NO ONE has claimed the protestors in Mexico as heroes. Get it through your head – the information provided on this site is just that – INFORMATION! We share it and discuss it.

Great. I hope the information I provided above was useful to you, as well as my clarifications yesterday regarding the photos that were inaccurately portrayed by those that posted the stories.

quote:
You quite close mindedly accused us of not reading or listening to “other” news last night. You don’t actually think that what is posted here is all we read now do you?

I would hope not. But that people here tend to post things that are often less than accurate does make me wonder what sources they read and what "information" is of interest to them.

Again, I hope the corrections I made to yesterdays posts and pictures regarding anti-war demonstrations in Monterrey (false) was helpful. There was no anti-war demonstration yesterday. I also hope that my insight regarding the PT often being an organization that is literally funded by interests to get people out on the street also puts the marches in perspective.

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As mentioned in the other Mexico thread (where this article would have been appropriately posted) you are listening to what appears to be mainstream media Bushite-type information.

Uh... I live here in Monterrey Mexico. There is no Bushite-type information, and the press isn't particulary nice to Fox either. Plus my posts were based on first-hand information as I was out in the city taking care of business yesterday and dealt with this stuff first-hand.

quote:
Again, same as what was fed about the Miami incident.

Except that I KNOW the negative spin that is being put on the demonstration yesterday is inaccurate. I was there. Period. I'm not depending on even local news for my information (though I do cite them for your benefit). I was out and about in the city yesterday. Can I make it any more clear?

quote:
Sounds to me like there are some pi$$ed off Mexicans that are fed up with the American way – plain and simple.

Hahah, sounds like YOU are listening to some seriously spun information yourself.

Fed up with the American way? Is that why so many Mexicans slip into the U.S. for a better way of life? Is that why everyone that has an American visa goes to Laredo TX or San Antonio to do their Christmas shopping rather than do it here? Because they are fed up with the American way?

Lots of Mexicans pissed off? As I mentioned in the other thread, most of the demonstrators are most likely paid or given a free breakfast. They're hungry, they're not pissed off at the U.S. The fact that the newspaper article today indicated that many came from Mexico City only confirms what I said yesterday--that most of them were probably paid to be here since that tactic is extremely common in the PT in Mexico City.

quote:
I’d like to read some of the reports from alternative Mexican sources also or are you stopping at this source because it confirms your theory?

Uhm... my source is *ME*. I live here. I was there. I don't need a news source or an alternative news source to tell me what to think or confirm my "theory." I saw it. I lived it. And, as a result, when it comes to this subject I will be VERY stubborn because no-one, mainstream or conspiracy, can say that I am wrong.

I was there.

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swamp gas
Bird Man of Hudson County


Jersey City, NJ
1153 posts, May 2002

posted 01-13-2004 02:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for swamp gas     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by letxa2000:
Uhm... my source is *ME*. I live here. I was there. I don't need a news source or an alternative news source to tell me what to think or confirm my "theory." I saw it. I lived it. And, as a result, when it comes to this subject I will be VERY stubborn because no-one, mainstream or conspiracy, can say that I am wrong.

I was there.


So what you are saying is there are two types of news sources, legit and "conspiracy". A veiled attempt at saying that only Letxa and mainstream are the only credible sources.

You are beginning to sound like some of the banished debunker pilots that used to POSITIVELY know what every other pilot in the world does or doesn't spray on the populace. You KNOW what every Mexican thinks?

Letxa, I've said this before to you and other people who are opposed to Peace, you are "Coincidence Theorists", whose only function seems to be to stick your foot out to trip people up.

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