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Boomer Chick
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Colorado 744 posts, Sep 2003
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posted 01-20-2004 01:49 PM
Only new articles, please! From AxisofLogic.com
U.S. News/Comment 9-11 Lawsuit Will Not Be Televised, Axis of Logic Exclusive, January 16, 2003 By Michael Arvey, Contributing Writer to Axis of Logic Jan 16, 2004, 15:23 Undoubtedly the 2005 edition of Project Censored will include a chapter on 9-11 widow Ellen Mariani's RICO Act lawsuit filed against President George Bush and his cabinet on November 26, 2003, in Pennsylvania, charging Bush with foreknowledge of 9-11 and failing to act accordingly. Other than scattered reports throughout Internet news sites, little or no information about this has appeared in the national media.
Since 9-11, the Bush administration has essayed to curtail, cover-up, stonewall and underfund serious 9-11 investigation beyond ascertaining the depth and reach of intelligence lapses. What has evolved into the current 9-11 federal commission remains a token inquiry, considering the attacks were a major crime and presumably should require a criminal and forensics examination. After all, isn't it remarkable that all the WTC rubble was carted off without study? Or that no jet fuel could have caused the fire at the base of the towers to have burned for so long? Or that WTC7 collapsed although it was not hit by a plane? Or that fire fighters in the main towers had radioed the fires there were under control, and yet the towers collapsed as if in a controlled demolition (see www.WTC7.net)? Or that the U.S. Air Force stood down? And why are 9-11 families who accept the Federal Compensation Fund made to promise not to sue the government for 9-11 evidence? Or that on 9-11 at the elementary school, President Bush claimed he saw a plane fly into the first building on a television, but the videotape of this didn't premiere until the next day? And why the shredding of liberties and the quick creation of a police state? To pre-emptively crush and discourage dissent and questions as the administration continues its wars both abroad and at home? Some of the 9-11 widows have found the administration's post-911 stonewalling unacceptable. For instance, Ellen Mariani, whose husband Louis Neil Mariani died on United flight 175, is voicing what many Americans and others around the globe have been suspecting: 9-11 was an inside job and that Bush was, at minimum, aware of an impending attack and yet let it happen without offering any warning to the public, which enabled his administration to pursue political and financial objectives. If true, President Bush and his cabinet would be guilty of treason and high crimes against his own people. The implications of Mariani's lawsuit are simple: It could drive a wedge into the Bush administration's warehouse of secrets hidden under a cloaking device called national security. Worth quoting is part of Mariani's open letter to Bush: "Mr. Bush the time has come for you to stop your control over us. Stop blocking the release of certain evidence and documents that were discovered by the 9-11 Investigation Commission if you have nothing to hide...Your reason for not releasing the material is that it is your personal credibility/security that you are concerned with." She further asserts that Bush et. al. had knowledge/warnings of 911 and failed to warn or take steps to prevent; have been covering up the truth of 911; and have therefore violated the laws of the United States. Heady stuff, but the air needs to be cleared. Among pertinent questions she poses in her letter to Bush are: "Where were 29 pages of the 9/11 committee report personally censored at your request? Where are the 'black boxes' from Flight 11 and Flight 175? Where are the voice recorders [from same]? Where are the airport surveillance tapes that show the passengers boarding the the doomed flights? Why did your brother Jeb (the Governor of Florida) go to the offices of Hoffman Aviation School and order that flight records and files be removed? These files were then put on a C130 government cargo plane and flown out of the country. Where were they taken and who ordered it done?" The Bush administration has claimed that no one could have foreseen planes being used as weapons on 9-11, but another 9-11 widow turned sleuth, Kristen Breistweiser, has flipped this claim on its head. Testifying at the Sept. 2002 Joint Intelligence Commission Inquiry (JICI), she posited some facts: "In 1993, a $150,000 study was commissioned by the Pentagon to investigate the possibility of an airplane being used to bomb national landmarks. A draft document of this was circulated throughout the Pentagon, the Justice Department and the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA)." And, "In September 1999, a report, 'The Sociology and Psychology of Terrorism,' was prepared for U.S. intelligence by the Federal Research Division...stated,'Suicide bombers belonging to al Qaeda's Martyrdom Battalion could crash-land an aircraft...into the Pentagon...the CIA, or the White House.'" She also informs, "Throughout the spring and early summer of 2001, intelligence agencies flooded the government with warnings of possible terrorist attacks against American targets, including commercial aircraft, by al Qaeda and other groups." Other reports corroborate the warnings. For example, according to www.News.telegraph.co.uk, 9/16/2001, "ISRAELI intelligence officials say that they warned their counterparts in the United States last month that large-scale terrorist attacks on highly visible targets on the American mainland were imminent." And Newsweek reported that on Sept. 10 a group of high-ranking Pentagon officials suddenly canceled travel plans for the next morning, presumably for security reasons. Moreover, President Bush apparently was briefed (PDB, Aug 6, 2001) that "a group of bin Laden supporters was planning attacks in the U.S. with explosives." Surely someone could have connected the dots: Explosives, airplanes, buildings. Innumerable anomalies surround the 9-11 attacks that will never be satisfactorily explained without a fully-fledged criminal inquiry. Thanks to the courageous and relentless dedication of some of the widows, a few answers might be forthcoming as a result of Mariani's lawsuit. Interestingly, New Yorkers themselves want answers. On Jan. 4 the NYC Truth Movement unveiled a banner at Ground Zero, which read, "The Bush Regime Engineered 9-11." The simple fact is that President Bush could settle the whole issue tomorrow by fully disclosing all 911-related information. He should have demanded a criminal investigation from the outset--why didn't he? Considering how this administration cheated its way into the White House, how it planned invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq prior to 9-11, and how it has barefacedly lied to the American public regarding Iraq and Hussein, how could its possible dark complicity in 9-11 not draw suspicions? As the old saying goes, if it looks, quacks and walks like a duck, then it probably is one. Certainly the politically far-right Bush administration got what it needed and what it wanted most in this world out of 9-11: War and a host of other items on its wish list. © Copyright 2003 by AxisofLogic.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Read other articles by Michael Arvey:
Code Orange: Al-manacs Alert My Precious--The Politics of Power and Selfishness Exclusive! The Law of Political Diversion, Michael Arvey, December 19, 2003 Exclusive! Who Ghouls There?, Axis of Logic, December 16, 2003 Exclusive! Stealing Watermelons, Michael Arvey, December 17, 2003 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael Arvey is a free lance writer and author in Colorado and a regular contributing writer at Axis of Logic. © Copyright 2003 by YourSITE.com

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Boomer Chick
Senior Member

Colorado 744 posts, Sep 2003
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posted 01-21-2004 09:39 AM
Excellent reference page with 9/11 active links, articles, websites, and activism. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/New_World_Disorder/message/22535 
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shatoga
Agent Provocateur
996 posts, Nov 2002
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posted 01-21-2004 11:15 PM
quote: Originally posted by Boomer Chick: Only new articles, please!
Let me be the jerk that posts a partial list of links to past attempts to discuss this topic: (background and a wealth of pros and cons at these links) by Mech "911 Cover Up Falling Apart" http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/ubb/Forum6/HTML/001809.html "Afganistan war planned BEFORE 9-11" http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/ubb/Forum6/HTML/001811.html "President Bush served court complaint over 9-11" http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/ubb/Forum6/HTML/001785.html "WTC foundations were blasted...'collapse' was actually a controlled demolition" http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/ubb/Forum6/HTML/001445.html by shatoga "WTC II" http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/ubb/Forum6/HTML/001754.html Now that I've 'outed" the old; In with the new! 
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Boomer Chick
Senior Member

Colorado 744 posts, Sep 2003
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posted 01-22-2004 02:10 PM
Good links, shatoga! Will look for more updates today! bc  
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JerseyBluEyz
Trust the Universe

Northeast 755 posts, Jul 2003
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posted 01-28-2004 09:33 PM
A new piece of evidence is revealed. The Flight Attendant of AA Flight 11 was portrayed by the media as being "hysterical with fear". It seems, that was NOT true! http://www.thekansascitychannel.com/news/2798575/detail.html Tape Of Flight Attendant On Doomed 9/11 Flight Aired
POSTED: 7:01 a.m. EST January 28, 2004 UPDATED: 12:30 p.m. EST January 28, 2004 WASHINGTON -- More details are emerging about the final minutes of American Airlines Flight 11, just before it slammed into the World Trade Center on Sept. 11, 2001. Shortly before the crash, the American Airlines operations center received a calm phone call from a flight attendant on board the hijacked Boeing 767. Betty Ong was able to provide a description of what was going on. She told the center, "The cockpit is not answering their phone." She went on to say, "There's somebody stabbed in business class" and that they thought they were being hijacked. The 45-year-old flight attendant was on the American Airlines flight from Boston to Los Angeles when hijackers crashed it into the North Tower of the Trade Center at 8:46 a.m. The 9-11 Commission heard portions of Ong's conversation Tuesday as part of its two-day hearing in Washington. Ong told the operations center, "We can't breathe." She said she thought it might be "Mace or something." The commission has also heard from the operations center worker who received Ong's call. Nydia Gonzalez answered the call that morning and said media accounts of the flight attendant being "hysterical with fear" were wrong. Gonzalez said she believed the crew members on the flight had no idea the fate they would encounter. The panel, which has been investigating the 9/11 attacks for a year and has held seven public hearings, wants Congress to extend its May 27 deadline by at least two months, saying it needs more time to review all the material. 
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Boomer Chick
Senior Member

Colorado 744 posts, Sep 2003
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posted 01-29-2004 12:17 AM
Great post, JBE!  http://www.truthout.com 9/11 Commission Says It Needs More Time By Philip Shenon The New York Times Wednesday 28 January 2004 WASHINGTON, Jan. 27 — The independent commission investigating the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks announced on Tuesday that it was seeking an extension of its deadline to complete the investigation until at least July, raising the prospect of a public fight with the White House and a final report delivered in the heat of the presidential campaign. The White House and Republican Congressional leaders have said they see no need to extend the congressionally mandated deadline, now set for May 27, and a spokesman for Speaker J. Dennis Hastert said Tuesday that Mr. Hastert would oppose any legislation to grant the extension. But commission officials said there was no way to finish their work on time, a situation they attribute in part to delays by the Bush administration in turning over documents and other evidence. The commission said Tuesday that it had not yet received a commitment from the administration for public testimony from prominent White House officials, including Condoleezza Rice, the president's national security adviser. The panel said it was still in negotiations over the possibility of testimony from President Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney. "We are telling the Congress and the president what we need to do the best possible job," said the panel's chairman, Thomas H. Kean, a Republican who was formerly governor of New Jersey, in announcing the panel's decision to seek an extension of at least two months. "Much work remains, and some hard work in finalizing our report." The commission's vice chairman, Lee H. Hamilton, a former Democratic House member from Indiana, said the panel was "mindful of the politics" of an extension, "but if we do not have the extra time, we would not have as many hearings as we would like." The request for an extension came after a day of public hearings in which the panel listened to parts of a taped telephone conversation from the morning of Sept. 11, 2001, in which an American Airlines flight attendant aboard one of the hijacked planes calmly relayed information to the airline about the chaos on board, including the stabbings of two of her colleagues and a passenger. Although the contents of the tape have been previously disclosed, it was the first time it had been played publicly. The flight attendant, Betty Ann Ong, is heard describing how hijackers had forced passengers to the back of the plane and locked themselves in the cockpit. "Our first-class galley attendant and our purser are stabbed," Ms. Ong quickly but calmly told an agent at the airline's reservation office in North Carolina. "We can't get into the cockpit. The door won't open." At the hearing, the panel also sharply questioned former officials of the Federal Aviation Administration over why they had not merged terrorism watch lists that might have alerted airlines to block some of the hijackers from boarding the planes on Sept. 11. The agency's former security chief acknowledged in testimony that he had not known until this week that the State Department maintained a special terrorist watch list, known as Tipoff, that had thousands of names. The administration initially opposed creation of the 10-member independent commission, known formally as the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States. Administration officials have acknowledged concern that Democrats, particularly the Democratic nominee for president, will try to make use of the report's findings to embarrass Mr. Bush, especially if the report contains any suggestion that the White House failed to act before Sept. 11 on intelligence suggesting that a catastrophic attack might be imminent. The White House confirmed news reports last year that an Oval Office intelligence summary presented to Mr. Bush shortly before the attacks suggested that terrorists might be planning an attack using passenger planes. "It smacks of politics to put out a report like this in the middle of a presidential campaign," said a senior Republican Congressional aide, speaking on condition of anonymity. "The Democrats will spin and spin." An extension of the commission's deadline would need to be approved in Congress in the next few weeks, and the Senate authors of the bill that created the panel last year, John McCain, Republican of Arizona, and Joseph I. Lieberman, Democrat of Connecticut, have already said that they are willing to try to shepherd an extension bill through Congress, although both have said they expect a fight with Republican Congressional leaders. "I fully support an extension to ensure that the commission's work is not compromised by the Bush administration's delaying tactics, secrecy and stonewalling," Mr. Lieberman said Tuesday from New Hampshire, where he was campaigning in that day's Democratic presidential primary. "Clearly the president is not interested in a complete and thorough investigation." Prospects for legislation to extend the deadline were uncertain. The White House, which in previous statements had suggested that it strongly opposed an extension, said Tuesday that the final decision would be left to Congress. "Congress is the one who set that deadline when they set up the commission," said Scott McClellan, the White House spokesman. "But we think it's important they move forward as quickly as possible to complete their work," Mr. McClellan said of the commission. ------- bc

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Boomer Chick
Senior Member

Colorado 744 posts, Sep 2003
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posted 01-31-2004 09:22 PM
washingtonpost.com White House Holding Notes Taken by 9/11 Commission Panel May Subpoena Its Summaries of Bush Briefings By Dan Eggen Washington Post Staff Writer Saturday, January 31, 2004; Page A02 The White House, already embroiled in a public fight over the deadline for an independent commission's investigation of the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, is refusing to give the panel notes on presidential briefing papers taken by some of its own members, officials said this week.
The standoff has prompted the 10-member commission to consider issuing subpoenas for the notes and has further soured relations between the Bush administration and the bipartisan panel, according to sources familiar with the issue. Lack of access to the materials would mean that the information they contain could not be included in a final report about the attacks, several officials said. "We're having discussions on this almost hourly or at least daily," said the commission's vice chairman Lee H. Hamilton, a former Democratic congressman from Indiana. "We retain all of our rights to gain the access we need. . . . This is a priority item for us to resolve, and we are working to resolve it." The disagreement is the latest obstacle to face the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States, which is racing to complete its work by a May 27 deadline after months of fighting over access to government documents. The commission has asked that the deadline be pushed back at least two months, but the White House and leading congressional Republicans oppose that idea. Such a postponement would mean releasing the potentially damaging commission report on July 26, in the middle of the presidential campaign. Legislation to be introduced next week in the Senate would extend the commission's deadline until next January, avoiding the election altogether. The latest dispute stems from an agreement reached in November that allowed a four-member team from the commission to examine highly classified documents known as the President's Daily Brief (PDB), including a controversial August 2001 memo that discusses the possibility of airline hijackings by al Qaeda terrorists. The deal allowed the team -- made up of three commission members and Executive Director Philip D. Zelikow -- to take notes on the materials that would be passed along to the rest of the commission, but only after the White House gave its approval. The team completed its work several weeks ago but has been unable to reach an agreement with the White House on how to share its summaries with the seven commission members who were not privy to the material, officials said. The standoff has prompted commission members to discuss using subpoenas to obtain either the summaries or the entire catalogue of President's Daily Briefs, several sources said. Democratic commission member Timothy J. Roemer, a former Indiana congressman, said that "the convoluted and tortuous process set up by the White House has bottlenecked. If it's not resolved within the next few days, I believe we have to pursue other options." Commission member Jamie S. Gorelick, a deputy attorney general during the Clinton administration, who served on the four-person review team, declined to comment on the details of the impasse but said negotiations are continuing. "All I can say is that we have followed the procedure that we contemplated and we are discussing with the White House whether that can be made to work for us," Gorelick said. "We are trying to ensure that we get the information we need, while at the same time respecting the needs and desires of the White House. . . . We have not been able yet to transmit [PDB summaries] to the whole commission." White House officials declined to comment on the details of the negotiations, or to say why administration lawyers have objected to releasing the review team's notes. "The administration has worked closely with the commission, providing unprecedented access to information and documents," said White House spokeswoman Erin Healy. "We continue to have discussions on a number of issues as the process moves forward, and we will continue to do so in a spirit of cooperation." But Kristen Breitweiser, widow of World Trade Center victim Ronald Breitweiser and a member of a group of victims' families who monitor the commission's work, called the White House position "unacceptable." She said the panel should subpoena the documents it needs. "The White House needs to stop being all talk and no action," Breitweiser said. "They say they're cooperating. It's time to show that." After months of delays last fall, the commission issued subpoenas for documents from the Pentagon, the Federal Aviation Administration and the city of New York, eventually working out agreements in all three cases. The panel also threatened to subpoena the White House over the PDB issue, but settled on the compromise because officials said they did not want to get bogged down in a court battle. The White House indicated at the time that it would consider asserting that the PDB documents were covered by executive privilege and not subject to review by outside parties. © 2004 The Washington Post Company http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A64628-2004Jan30.html 
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Boomer Chick
Senior Member

Colorado 744 posts, Sep 2003
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posted 01-31-2004 09:28 PM
September 11 inquiry could become election embarrassment for Bush Fri Jan 30,11:56 AM ET WASHINGTON (AFP) - The White House is resisting pressure to push the deadline of the main inquiry into the September 11 attacks closer to the November presidential election in a move which could embarrass President George W. Bush (news - web sites).
The US Congress originally gave the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon The United States 18 months to finish its investigation into the 2001 hijacked plane strikes. That would take it to May 27. But the commission this week asked for at least two months more to complete its work.
"We are telling the Congress and the president what we need to do the best possible job," said commission chairman Thomas Kean. "Much work remains."
Investigators looking into the attacks on the World Trade Center towers in New York and the Defence Department headquarters in Washington -- which left about 3,000 dead -- have reported several bureaucratic obstacles.
Kean, a former governor of New Jersey state, has highlighted how the Bush administration has refused to give access to some secret documents and for some top officials to give evidence.
The commission has said it still wants national security advisor Condoleezza Rice (news - web sites) to testify.
Evidence given this week by former officials of the Federal Aviation Administration (news - web sites) about security failures reinforced Kean's calls for a deadline extension.
The White House, which opposed the creation of the commission -- made up of five Democrats and five Republicans -- is clearly embarrassed, experts said.
"It's just the closer that it gets to the election the more sensitive the issue becomes, especially for a president who's strong point is national security," said Stephen Hess, a politics specialist at the Brookings Institution in Washington.
Bush, who will seek a second four year term in the November 2 election, is already under pressure over the Iraq (news - web sites) war he ordered last year because of the failure to find weapons of mass destruction.
And Hess said that the president cannot afford to be seen as hindering the September 11 inquiry, which forced a complete rethink of US policies and unleashed the global war on terror. Such an impression would fuel suspicions that the administration is trying to hide something, he added.
Statements from the White House highlight the dilemma.
"This White House is committed to making sure that the commission has all the information they need to do their job," White House spokesman Scott McClellan said this week. "We believe it's important that they move forward as quickly as they can to complete their work."
In Congress, some influential Republicans, such as House of Representatives leader Dennis Hastert are already insisting that the commission should meet its May 27 deadline.
Democratic senators, Joseph Lieberman and John Edwards (news - web sites), both candidates for the Democratic presidential nomination, are saying the inquiry should be given more time.
The Washington Post on Friday joined calls for the extension.
"The administration and congressional Republicans are keen to avoid an extension, apparently because they want whatever damaging facts the commission's report contains to be old news by election day," said an editorial.
"There is simply no good reason to prevent such work from continuing to completion." http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1521&e=5&u=/afp/us_attacks_vote

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Boomer Chick
Senior Member

Colorado 744 posts, Sep 2003
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posted 02-03-2004 08:43 PM
Bush to 9/11 Families: 'Enough Already'By Bill Berkowitz, WorkingForChange.com February 2, 2004 While the Bush Administration never tires of reminding the American people that the president's war on terrorism, his invasion of Iraq, and the Patriot Act I and II are all rooted in the 9/11 attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, it has tired of one little bitty aspect of this post-9/11 period: the investigation by the ten-member bi-partisan independent commission. White House officials, along with House Speaker Dennis Hastert (R-Ill), have decided to oppose extending the time limit for work by the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States, "virtually guaranteeing that the panel" will have to be done with its work by the end of May, the Washington Post reported on January 19. According to the statute that created the panel in late 2002, commission members need to complete a report for the president and Congress by May 27. They will then have another 60 days to issue supplemental documents or tie up loose ends.
After months of stalling on even having a commission, then appointing Henry Kissinger to head it (and having to withdraw that appointment), the administration threw every conceivable roadblock in the commission's path, including the withholding of significant documents. Despite the growing consensus among commission members that they need more time, the president and his congressional allies want to move on and shut the investigation down. The administration appears to be concerned that an ongoing investigation would bleed into the election season and hurt the president's re-election chances.
"With time running short," the Washington Post reports, "the 10-member bipartisan panel [chaired by the former governor of New Jersey, Thomas Kean] has already decided to scale back the number and scope of hearings that it will hold for the public.... [and it] is rushing to finish interviews with as many as 200 remaining witnesses and to finish examining about 2 million pages of documents related to the attacks."
As Joe Conason pointed out in his column in the New York Observer, during in an early-January interview with the New York Times Kean was asked whether 9/11 could have been avoided. "Yes, there is a good chance that 9/11 could have been prevented by any number of people along the way," Kean replied. "Everybody pretty well agrees our intelligence agencies were not set up to deal with domestic terrorism.... They were not ready for an internal attack." Then, Conason writes, the Times asked whether "anyone in the Bush administration [had] any idea that an attack was being planned." Kean: "That is why we are looking at the internal papers. I can't talk about what's classified. [The] President's daily briefings are classified. If I told you what was in them, I would go to jail."
There are a number of high-powered witnesses yet to be heard from, including key Cabinet members in the Bush and Clinton administrations such as Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld, CIA Director George J. Tenet, former secretary of state Madeleine K. Albright, former defense secretary William S. Cohen, and the current and former directors of the FBI. Commission representatives are also negotiating to secure private testimony from President Bush, former president Bill Clinton, Vice President Cheney and former vice president Al Gore. None of the four would likely be asked to testify publicly, the Washington Post reported. (The next hearing "will focus on border and aviation security issues.")
As late as mid-January, the administration was still willing to give the independent commission more time, according to a report by Michael Isikoff in Newsweek, if it would delay its report until after the elections. "Bush officials recently floated a surprise strategic switch," Isikoff wrote, "they might OK a delay, but only if the report were put off until December, thereby 'taking it out of the election,' a commission source told Isikoff.
The administration's decision to shut down the investigation cannot be good news for the victims' families and citizen watchdog groups that have been fighting tooth and nail since the commission was appointed.
"The momentous nature of the event requires that this commission not be rushed to complete its work," said Kyle Hence, co-founder of 9/11 Citizens Watch, a group created to ensure that answers and accountability arise from the Sept. 11 investigation, told GovExec.com.
"The commission is coming up with new information," said Kristen Breitweizer, who lost her husband, Ron, in the collapse of the World Trade Center. "As time goes by and more comes to light, we get a clearer picture of how this terrible thing happened. The commission's report will be the definitive official account. There is only one chance to get this right, so we plan to make sure they get all the time they need."
Another controversial matter arose recently when it was disclosed that Philip Zelikow, the commission's executive director, has ties to national security adviser Condoleezza Rice and other Bush administration officials.
According to the Washington Post, Zelikow "recused himself from issues connected to his role as an administration adviser in the early weeks of Bush's term, but he was also interviewed several months ago as a witness by the commission, officials said." Commission member Jamie Gorelick, a Democrat who served in the Clinton Justice Department, has also been interviewed as a witness.
"We've had it," Breitweiser told the Washington Post. "It is such a slap in the face of the families of victims. They are dishonoring the dead with their irresponsible behavior."
By the end of January, after two days of hearing testimonies about the September 11 terror attacks, the independent commission announced it was formally requesting an extension of its deadline, from May 27 to July. The ball is in your court, Mr. Bush.
Bill Berkowitz is a freelance writer covering right-wing groups and movements. His column appears twice weekly in Working Assets' Working For Change.

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JerseyBluEyz
Trust the Universe

Northeast 755 posts, Jul 2003
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posted 02-09-2004 04:20 PM
I've been stating recently that our Immigration Program needs an overhaul. Forget the fact that some workers might have been told to process paperwork without proper clarification, this article proves the system does not work. The 9/11 Panel found that Immigration "repeatedly missed" identifying fraudulent passports, etc.OK - so, now they’ll blame Immigration for the whole 9/11 fiasco and then they’ll HAVE TO rework our immigration policies. In turn they will insert some provisions which will allow illegals to come crawling over our borders. Sounds a bit pessimistic? I hope so! http://www.visalaw.com/04feb1/15feb104.html Panel Finds Officials Could Have Prevented 9/11 Attacks For the past two years, US officials have contended that immigration officials had no reason to suspect the September 11 hijackers, who legally entered and resided in the US. However, in the seventh hearing held by the September 11th Commission, the body found that the US government repeatedly missed opportunities to prevent thirteen of the September 11 hijackers from entering the US. The report issued by the panel found that immigration agents missed false passports, none of the hijackers filled out their visa forms correctly and that at least three lied on their forms. The passports belonging to eight of the nineteen hijackers had evidence of “fraudulent manipulation” and five had “suspicious indicators.” The report also said that six hijackers, including Mohammad Atta, violated immigration laws either while residing in the US or when entering the US. Five of these were individually questioned by officials, but were eventually allowed to enter the US. Atta was admitted to the US on a tourist visa, despite informing an inspection officer that he was a student in the US. Six of the hijackers had overstayed their visas. The panel was informed that the hijackers had an easy time entering the country because consular and inspection officials were trying to identify those individuals who might try to settle in the US. Identifying terrorists was not a priority. The report did point out that at least five suspected al Qaeda members were prevented from joining the 9/11 plot. Four were denied visas, and a fifth, Mohamed al Qahtani, was sent back to Saudi Arabia. Al Qahtani made his way to Afghanistan, where he was captured; he is now being held in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. Jose Melendez-Perez, the Orlando, FL official who inspected al Qahtani testified that al Qahtani had no return ticket or hotel reservations, and also refused to identify a friend who would provide him with money and assistance on his trip. Melendez-Perez stated that al Qahtani reminded him of a ‘hit man’, because “a ‘hit man' doesn’t know where he is going because if he is caught, that way he doesn’t have any information to bargain with.” Officials believe al Qahtani’s ‘friend’ to be Atta, who was caught on an airport security camera complaining because his friend had been refused entry to the US. Officials believe that al Qahtani was the “twentieth” hijacker – a theory that explains why one of the planes had four hijackers, while the others had five on board. Officials theorize that because Flight 93 had only four hijackers, the passengers were able to overcome their attackers and crash the plane in Pennsylvania, instead of a suspected target in Washington, DC.

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JerseyBluEyz
Trust the Universe

Northeast 755 posts, Jul 2003
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posted 02-09-2004 11:02 PM
I did a search here for “Randy Glass” and came up blank so that’s why I’m posting this. Sorry if you’ve seen this before Boomer Chick, but it was totally new to me. If you haven’t seen this, it’s a must see. It falls into the suppressed information category. This interview was broadcast in Florida October 2002 with Randy Glass (an ex con man turned FBI informant). Apparently he disclosed warnings of a possible WTC attack in the summer of 2001. You’ll see in this broadcast (it’s NOT very long) that his warning was originally confirmed, and then subsequently denied – gee, am I surprised? Talk about a write off! I sure hope the official 9/11 investigation committee has contacted him regarding this! http://www.cooperativeresearch.net/timeline/main/Glass-Graham.html 
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Boomer Chick
Senior Member

Colorado 744 posts, Sep 2003
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posted 02-09-2004 11:43 PM
Definately cool and worth a listen!I've heard of him, but it's great you found an audio on the subject of his communication! Like the panel chosen will even consider it! Who knows -- it might just somehow get into the mix! The truth is rising to the surface! bc  
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Boomer Chick
Senior Member

Colorado 744 posts, Sep 2003
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posted 02-11-2004 12:43 PM
Please go to the link and link to the articles! Every paragraph has an active link article associated! Amazing stuff! http://www.legitgov.org/9_1_1_oddities.html CLG 9/11 Investigation and "Oddities" Information Zone "It was an interesting day." - President [sic] Bush, recalling 9/11 *CLG in no way endorses one or another theory but merely states that Bush is at least criminally negligent for 9-11. Mike Rectenwald believes that the Bush administration is at least criminally negligent in their mis-handling and complete ineptitude regarding 9-11. As Mike wrote, "Mr. Bush was told in the first week of his month-long vacation that terrorists connected to bin Laden were supposed to hijack domestic airliners within the U.S. Why did he not make the proper adjustments and have the FAA secure the airports before 9-11? To use the CEO metaphor he's so fond of, if a CEO of a major corporation were to learn that the most vicious terrorist on the planet was aiming to do something to his company in the very near future, would the said CEO remain on vacation for three more weeks after hearing such a notice? Would a CEO continue to read a children's story to kids in Florida, after his major buildings had been struck by terrorists in domestic airliners? Would such a CEO turn down the plan ["Could 9/11 Have Been Prevented?" by Michael Elliot, Time, August 4, 2002] drafted by the executives from a former CEO's tenure, simply out of political spite? Well, these are some of the facts surrounding the Bush failure that resulted in 9-11." Michael Rectenwald, August 28, 2002 Michael Rectenwald responds to a 9/11 activist Stand and Demand (a Thorough Investigation of 9-11!!!) by CLG Founder and Chair, Michael Rectenwald Was the US government alerted to September 11 attack? A special four-part series from the World Socialist Web Site -- Part 1: Warnings in advance; Part 2: Watching the hijackers; Part 3: The United States and Mideast terrorism; Part 4: The refusal to investigate An Interesting Day: President [sic] Bush's Movements and Actions on 9/11 --by Allan Wood and Paul Thompson --"It was an interesting day." - President [sic] Bush, recalling 9/11 [White House, 1/5/02] The obscure goat story of 9-11 (lawgiver.org) "It is very important to examine the first reactions President [sic] Bush had concerning the events of September 11. You can tell much about the truth by observing the reactions of men... 'In Sarasota, Florida, Bush was reading to children in a classroom at 9:05 a.m. when his chief of staff, Andrew Card, whispered into his ear. The president [sic] briefly turned somber before he resumed reading. He addressed the tragedy about a half-hour later.' - Associated Press, September 12, 2001 [bold emphasis added]." Complicit - Associated with or participating in a questionable act or a crime. --Killtown's 9-11 timeline Killtown's 9-11 Oddities 9/11 (thememoryhole.org) 911 Skeptics Unite Reflections on 9/11 Investigations and post-political aftermath --by Nico Haupt 9-11 Research 9-11 and the IMPOSSIBLE --by "Skydrifter" Map: Hijacked 9/11 Flights and Military Bases (thememoryhole.org) "In this picture, which is worth even more than a thousand words, MediaLab has merged a map of the 9/11 planes' flightpaths with a map of military bases in those areas. The flights went through some of the most heavily militarized parts of the country, yet nothing could be done to stop them?" PentaLawn 2000! Introducing the amazing new Penta-Lawn 2000! The most resilient lawn ever! It's fire proof! It's skid proof! It even repels plane debris! Pentanium Cable Spools! New from the makers of the amazing new Penta-Lawn 2000! comes the virtually indestructible... Pentanium Cable Spools! Wherdy Go? --by Michael Gilson de Lemos Ghost Riders in the Sky An Alternative 9-11 Scenario --by A. K. Dewdney WTC-7: The Improbable Collapse --by Scott Loughrey WTC 7 'Pulled' By Silverstein, FDNY - Were Towers 'Pulled' Too? --from Judy Singer, January 18, 2004 Does something about the 1st WTC impact look fishy to you, too? "There are two, actually: 1) no one saw this video on TV on the morning of 9/11, and 2) there is something fishy about the 1st WTC plane crash." Transcripts of Second Hearings of 911 Commission available at Global Free Press Online petition draws interest Activist requests Congress to probe Sept. 11 'oddities' -- What has Lori Price done to earn so many enemies? She is an Internet activist who, in the space of a few months, has collected more than 15,000 signatures on an online petition (www.petitiononline.com/11601TFS/petition.html). She's Sure 'Bush Knew' A Quiet Internet Activist With an Online Petition Wants Congress to Investigate 'Oddities' About 9/11 (Hartford Courant interview with Lori Price, petition author/CLG General Manager) Online Petition to Senate to investigate Oddities of 9/11, hosted through the Citizens for Legitimate Government surpasses 23,100 signatures *Articles updated Wednesday, February 11, 2004 15:00 GMT Congressman asks for probe of flights of bin Laden kin Waxman looking for 'reassurance' --California Democrat Henry Waxman is calling on Attorney General John Ashcroft to reveal who cleared members of Osama bin Laden's family and other Saudi citizens to leave the country immediately following the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks. Citing press accounts and congressional testimony on the issue, Waxman says the public "needs reassurance" that the Bush dictatorship conducted an "appropriate investigation" of the Saudis that were allowed to leave. 9/11 Panel to Accept Summary of Briefings Legal Challenge Scrapped; Agreement Angers Some Members, Victims' Families --The independent commission investigating the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks backed away yesterday from a threatened legal showdown with the White House, agreeing to accept a 17-page summary of presidential [sic] briefing documents it had sought. The deal will not allow the full 10-member commission to read the original documents, or have access to notes on the documents taken by some of the commission's own members. FSC Statement Regarding the Failure of the 9/11 Independent Commission to Subpoena the White House February 10, 2004 "The Family Steering Committee (FSC) is outraged by the failure of the 9/11 Independent Commission to subpoena the White House for complete access to the Presidential Daily Briefings. The public needs to be aware that the President[sic]'s statements on Meet the Press, on February 8, 2004, were misleading. He stated that he is 'cooperating' with the 9/11 Independent Commission. Yet the Commission has been negotiating for access to these documents for over 10 months with no success. While the Commission negotiates with the Executive Branch, this nation remains at risk." The White House: A New Fight Over Secret 9/11 Docs Commission sources tell NEWSWEEK that 9/11 panel members are fed up with what one calls "maddening" restrictions by White House lawyers on their access to key documents. Unless the panel gets to see the docs, the report "will not withstand the laugh test," a commission official says. The panel is threatening to force a showdown soon—by voting to subpoena the White House. Bob Kerrey Says 9/11 Group Meets With Condoleezza --by Gail Sheehy "National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice has agreed to be interviewed by the bipartisan 9/11 commission on Feb. 7, after weeks of resistance from the White House to the bipartisan panel’s requests, The Observer has learned. In a Feb. 3 interview the newly minted commission member Bob Kerrey, the former Senator from Nebraska, now the president of the New School University, said that Ms. Rice’s interview will not be held under oath, and the results of the interview are not to be made public... Mr. Kerrey, the commission’s unlikely new spitfire, told The Observer he would lobby the commission to request sworn, public testimony from Bush's embittered national security advisor." Panel Reveals U.S. Missteps Ahead of 9/11 At a two-day hearing this week, the federal commission investigating the Sept. 11 attacks revealed U.S. authorities had numerous opportunities to stop the hijackers, including many face-to-face encounters. "The evidence is pretty damning," said Michael Greenberger, director of the Center for Health and Homeland Security at the University of Maryland. "There were many signals to the White House that we were in a state of high danger in the summer of 2001, yet no leadership was exercised to shake the agencies down." White House Holding Notes Taken by 9/11 Commission Panel May Subpoena Its Summaries of Bush Briefings --The White House, already embroiled in a public fight over the deadline for an independent commission's investigation of the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, is refusing to give the panel notes on presidential [sic] briefing papers taken by some of its own members, officials said this week. *Add your name! Petition to Senate to Investigate Oddities of 9/11 22,950 signatures, thus far. 9/11 Panel Faults U.S. For Letting Hijackers In The U.S. government fumbled repeated opportunities to stop many of the men responsible for the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks from entering the country, missing fraudulent passports and other warning signs that should have attracted greater scrutiny, according to a preliminary report released yesterday. Qaeda Military Boss Got U.S. Visa Despite Indictment Suspected Sept. 11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed received a U.S. visa a few weeks before the attacks, despite a 1996 indictment linking him to earlier plots, but there is no evidence he entered the country, investigators said on Monday. Sept. 11 Panel Wants Extension on Report An independent commission investigating the Sept. 11 attacks says it can't finish its final report before late July, putting it at odds with House leaders [and the White House] who oppose a delay that would push the report's release closer to the November s-election. Give 9/11 Panel More Time (Los Angeles Times) "The administration, which initially opposed the commission's creation but then endorsed it, has hampered its research and insists on shortening its life span from 24 months, as originally proposed by Congress, to 18 months. This timetable raises questions of cynical political calculation — whether the administration really wants to know what went awry in the past to fix it or whether it just wants to get any damaging revelations out well before the fall presidential campaign heats up... The commission only recently received copies of the 'president[sic]'s daily brief,' crafted by the CIA. These files could reveal whether President [sic] Bush had been warned before 9/11 of the possibility of terrorist attacks using commercial planes." German trial hears how Iranian agent warned US of impending al-Qaida attack The United States was warned of impending September 11 terrorist attacks by an Iranian spy, but ignored him, German secret service agents testified yesterday in the trial of an alleged al-Qaida terrorist. Justice Department Investigating Leak of Classified NSA Material Regarding Sept. 11 Attacks Probe of Intercepted Messages Focuses on Sen. Richard C. Shelby (R-Ala.) The investigation centers on the disclosure in 2002 that the National Security Agency had intercepted two messages on the eve of the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks signaling that something was to happen the next day. The cryptic messages were not translated until Sept. 12. New evidence halts 9/11 verdict A German court has agreed to allow a new prosecution witness in the trial of an 11 September suspect which appeared to have all but crumbled last month. The dramatic move has delayed the verdict in the case of Abdelghani Mzoudi which was expected this week. Prosecutors gave no details of the new witness but Mr Mzoudi's defence lawyer, Guel Pinar, said the witness was an unidentified Iranian intelligence officer who was claiming to have informed US authorities of an impending attack before September 2001. 9/11 Panel Unlikely to Get Later Deadline Hearings Being Scaled Back to Finish Work by May --Dictator Bush and House Speaker J. Dennis Hastert (R-Nutball-Ill.) have decided to oppose granting more time to an independent commission investigating the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, virtually guaranteeing that the panel will have to complete its work by the end of May, officials said last week. A growing number of commission members had concluded that the panel needs more time to prepare a thorough and credible accounting of missteps leading to the terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon. But the White House and leading Republicans have informed the panel that they oppose any delay, which raises the possibility that Sept. 11-related controversies could emerge during the heat of the presidential campaign, sources said. [Hmm... what 'Sept. 11-related controversies could they possibly be referring to? That 'Bush knew'?] 9/11 director gave evidence to own inquiry The panel set up to investigate why the United States failed to prevent the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, faced angry questions Thursday after revelations that two of its own senior officials were so closely involved in the events under investigation that they have been interviewed as part of the inquiry. Philip Zelikow, the commission's executive director, worked on the Bush-Cheney transition team as the new dictatorship took power [literally, *took* power], advising his longtime associate and former boss, national security adviser Condoleezza Rice, on the incoming National Security Council. FBI Chief Says Tribunals May Try 9/11 Suspects The director of the FBI said yesterday that he expects the accused conspirators in the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, including alleged mastermind Khalid Sheik Mohammed, to be tried by military tribunals rather than by criminal courts. Victims' families renew request for 9/11 records Families of victims of the World Trade Center terrorist attack said Wednesday they will go back to court to find out more about the final hours of their relatives' lives on September 11, 2001. Supreme Court Allows Secrecy of 9/11 Detainees inJustices let stand lower ruling, opting not to consider civil liberties, freedom of information issues. The Supreme Court today allowed the Bush dictatorship to withhold the names and whereabouts of hundreds of people seized in the United States by the government in the immediate aftermath of the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks on New York and Washington. [Click here (.pdf) for original 'Complaint For Injunctive Relief' filed against the Department of Justice, December 5, 2001.] inJustices Uphold Policy of Silence on 9/11 Detainees The Supreme Court on Monday turned down an appeal challenging the secrecy surrounding the arrest and detention of hundreds of people, nearly all Muslim men, in the weeks after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks. Supreme Court Upholds Secret Detentions inJustices decline to hear challenge to post-9/11 jailings The U.S. Whore High Court on Monday allowed the Bush dictatorship to keep secret the names and other basic details about hundreds of people questioned and detained or arrested after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks. Bush wants delay of 9-11 report until after 2004 s-election Federal 9/11 commission spokesman Alvin Felzenberg said that because of alleged stonewalling by the Bush dictatorship and by [Bush's New York Poodle] Michael Bloomberg's office, some commissioners want to extend their probe past the May deadline for the final report, while others are against any extension. The White House proposed greenlighting the extension if the commission would agree to release the report after the November election, but then officials pulled back the offer, Newsweek reported yesterday. Sept. 11 commission will request Bush, Clinton to meet with panel The federal Sept. 11 commission has formally decided to ask Dictator Bush and former President Bill Clinton to meet with the panel and to extend its investigation by several months. NYC 9-11 Truth Takes Back Ground Zero --by Michael Kane --septembereleventh.org, Jan 12, 2004 "Overwhelming Majority of New Yorkers Supports the Truth Movement! Police illegally and forcibly move two people holding a sign NYC calls for International Day of Solidarity – Every Saturday of Every Week! Respectful Dialogue on the Streets of NYC Where’s a Respectable Memorial for those who died at Ground Zero? The NYC Truth Movement permanently, and completely, took back Ground Zero from the Neo-Conservative false-patriotic agenda. In true New York fashion, 911 Truth activists unveiled the now legendary banner, which read, 'THE BUSH REGIME ENGINEERED 9-11' in front of the World Trade Center footprint." Judges Order City to Release More Records About 9/11 A state appeals court has ordered New York City to grant expanded public access to records about its response to the terrorist attack of Sept. 11, 2001. Condi and the 9/11 Commission Poised to convene its first hard-hitting hearings in January, the federal commission investigating the 9/11 attacks continues to be at odds with the White House over access to key information and witnesses. Two government sources tell TIME that National Security Adviser [and Reichwing whackjob] Condoleezza Rice is arguing over ground rules for her appearance in part because she does not want to testify under oath or, according to one source, in public. Democratic presidential candidates take up the cry from 9/11 activists White House stonewalling August, 2001 briefing fuels suspicions --Bush knew? Former Vermont Gov. and current presidential candidate Howard Dean is just the latest Democratic critic of Dictator Bush to suggest that he had foreknowledge of the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks. 9/11 Chair: Attack Was Preventable For the first time, the chairman of the independent commission investigating the Sept. 11 attacks is saying publicly that 9/11 could have and should have been prevented. The North Tower's Dust Cloud Analysis of Energy Requirements for the Expansion of the Dust Cloud following the Collapse of 1 World Trade Center --by Jim Hoffman, October 16th, 2003 Abstract: "This paper uses photographic evidence -- primarily a reference photograph taken from FEMA's report -- to estimate the volume of the dust cloud that grew from the collapse of the North Tower at about 30 seconds after the commencement of the collapse. The paper then estimates the thermal energy required to produce the observed expansion in the volume of the dust cloud, based on the assumption that most of the gasses and suspended solids in the cloud originated from within the building." 911 Victim's Wife, Ellen Mariani, Files RICO Act (prisonplanet.com) (Press Release/Alex Jones interviews Ellen Mariani) "Philip J. Berg, Esquire, announced today that he, attorney for Ellen Mariani, wife of Louis Neil Mariani, who died when United Air Lines flight 175 was flown into the South Tower of the World Trade Center on 9-11 at a news conference regarding the filing of a detailed Amended Complaint in the United States District Court for the Eastern District of Pennsylvania on 11/26/03 in the case of Mariani vs. Bush et al that he is alleging President [sic] Bush and officials including, but not limited to Cheney, Ashcroft, Rumsfeld and Feinberg that they: 1. had knowledge/warnings of 911 and failed to warn or take steps to prevent; 2. have been covering up the truth of 911; and 3. have therefore violated the laws of the United States; and 4. are being sued under the Civil RICO Act. Mayor Agrees to Allow Panel to Examine Sept. 11 Records In an abrupt reversal, Bush Poodle Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg of New York City announced on Wednesday that he had agreed to release records of emergency 911 calls and other materials sought by the federal commission investigating the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks. Mr. Bloomberg's action comes nearly two weeks after the commission announced that it had issued a subpoena to New York City for records related to the attacks. NYC to Challenge 9/11 Commission Subpoena NYC to Challenge 9/11 Commission Subpoena Seeking Documents Detailing City's Response at WTC --Citing 'privacy of Sept. 11 victims' [???!!!], Bush poodle Mayor Michael Bloomberg vowed to fight a federal commission's subpoena seeking documents that detail the city's response at the World Trade Center. 9/11 Commission Orders New York to Hand Over Documents The federal commission investigating the Sept. 11 terror attacks announced today that it had subpoenaed New York City for a variety of police tapes and other material about the attacks. It said that the city's refusal to hand over the material had "significantly impeded the commission's investigation." 9-11 Panel Presses NYC for Documents A federal commission investigating the Sept. 11 attacks has voted to subpoena documents New York has failed to hand over related to the city's response to the World Trade Center attack. Families of Sept. 11 Victims Criticize Deal Between White House, Commission Relatives of people who perished in the Sept. 11 attacks say a federal commission accepted too many conditions in striking a deal with the White House over access to secret intelligence documents. Judge Rules Top Saudis Cannot Be Sued for 9/11 A U.S. judge has dismissed claims against two high-ranking Saudi officials in a lawsuit filed by victims and survivors of the Sept. 11 attacks. What did Bush know before 9/11 attacks? Briefing notes may hold key to crucial question Panel member decries limited access to papers --In capital shorthand, they are known as PDBs, and they may hold the key to one of the great unanswered questions of the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks. Did U.S. Dictator George W. Bush receive — and ignore — advance warning of a plan by Al Qaeda to hijack passenger planes and fly them into buildings in the United States? Deal on 9/11 Briefings Lets White House Edit Papers The commission investigating the Sept. 11 terror attacks said on Thursday that its deal with the White House for access to highly classified Oval Office intelligence reports would let the White House edit the documents before they were released to the commission's representatives. CIA denies seeking pact with bin Laden The CIA rejected as fantasy claims it tried to negotiate a non-aggression pact with Osama bin Laden just two months before the September 11 attacks. Richard Labeviere, author of the Corridors of Terror, says the CIA's Dubai chief approached bin Laden while the al Qaeda leader was being treated for a kidney complaint in the United Arab Emirates. ***** Demand an Investigation of 9-11! How could it happen? What culpability does the Bush mis-ministration have? The Bush energy policy apparently was our Achilles Heel! Over 23,100 signatures -- please add yours! Cynthia McKinney--Vindicated! What "grassy knoll" was that, you blathering bastards!!! 9/11 Archives 
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JerseyBluEyz
Trust the Universe

Northeast 755 posts, Jul 2003
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posted 02-11-2004 01:37 PM
OMG! There is enough information on that site to keep someone busy for weeks on end! Woo Hoo! What an awesome find - I've never come across that site before! Good work Detective Chicka!  
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Boomer Chick
Senior Member

Colorado 744 posts, Sep 2003
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posted 02-11-2004 06:27 PM
Deary! It arrived in my e-mail box! Can't say I'm an investigator, but at least I recognized it! TEE HEE !!! Did I tell you that Lori Price over at legitgov actually knows OB1? It's such a small world! She and he have been e-mailing back and forth for longer than I've known OB1 and have actually met in the past! I joined legitgov on my own and discovered this through one of OB1's forwards! Wild! Truth seekers just tend to aggregate together! bc 
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JerseyBluEyz
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Northeast 755 posts, Jul 2003
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posted 02-11-2004 11:46 PM
quote: Originally posted by Boomer Chick: Did I tell you that Lori Price over at legitgov actually knows OB1? It's such a small world! Truth seekers just tend to aggregate together!
How funny - stories like that just prove it's a small world huh? Yep - truth seekers unite! ha!  
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swamp gas
Bird Man of Hudson County

Jersey City, NJ 1422 posts, May 2002
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posted 02-12-2004 01:05 PM
http://www.prisonplanet.com/020804vonbuelow.html Former German Defence Minister Confirms CIA Involvement in 9/11
I heard this intervew on Alex Jones Comercial Short Wave Program, A Week ago, Which also airs on many AM & FM comercial radio stations. (12172 KHZ 8 to 11 AM EST) This Man was the equivalent of Collin Powell or Condi Rice in Germany. Long but worthwhile. PRISON PLANET.com Copyright © 2002-2003 Alex Jones All r Former German Defense Minister Confirms CIA Involvement in 9/11: Alex Jones Interviews Andreas Von Buelow Please understand that this is a transcript made directly from a live radio interview. It may not conform to exemplary standards of grammar. Mr. Von Buelow's first language is German. Alex Jones: All right my friends. We are already into the third and final hour of this global transmission against tyranny. And, in the last hour we had Hutton Gibson, expert on the New World Order and of course father of Mel Gibson, on talking about the different key issues. In this hour, we are joined by Andreas von Bulow and he was the federal Minister of Defense, or the equivalent of our Secretary of Defense, been in the German government since the 70s. And up until just a few years ago he was also the Minister of Technology and he has written a book that according to Reuters is the best seller in Germany that translates into '9 11 and the CIA.' And he's not the only German minister who has said we are looking at world fascism here and a powerful military industrial complex institution engineering terror attacks to scare us into submission. And, Andre von Bulow, err Andreas von Bulow, we are so honored to have a man of your stature and obvious intelligence and your courage on this show. Thank you for joining us. Andreas von Bulow: Hello and it's wonderful speaking, yes. AJ: Uh, we're going to break here in a few minutes and come back in a longer segment but for those who just joined us, tell us a little bit more about yourself and your book please. AvB: Well I...I have spent over twenty-five years in politics and now I am out. And in the end I was Minister of Technology before I was Secretary of Defense. Then I had to deal in a commission on East-West transactions about the secret service of East Germany. And this was very interesting inside story because of the Western side doing deals violating the laws in Eastern Eur, err, East Germany, European Community and the United States. It was always two parts dealing with East and West and this bought me a lot of insights in the secret service business. AJ: And in fact I remember reading about the huge investigations you did that was massive international headlines concerning the Stasi and how different governments had actually been working with these people. If you would like you are of course welcome to get into that as well. Again folks, the equivalent secretary of defense, minister of defense of Germany, and of course technology, the head of that. Just absolutely amazing. Your best selling book, and I wish there was an English translation because I would certainly buy one. My wife does read German. But please, tell us about your book. AvB: Well I was writing another book and then 9 11 happened. And it was strange to me watching- we all were horrified what was going on and said well that's impossible, how could a crew of people manage do such horrible things? At the first hours, we didn't know who was it, then within hours it came out that probably Usama bin Laden and Al Qaeda was behind it. And then within two or three days these 19 people came out. And my objection was- my looking at it- to whom does it bring good? And I found out that it is rather damaging to the Islamic world and perhaps it might be not only be a terrorist attack but perhaps it might be a covert operation. I watched the scenery, what was going on, what the American government- AJ: Minister, minister, we've got to break; we'll be back in three minutes. Absolutely, we'll go into this in great detail. We are honored to have you. We're talking to Andreas von Bulow. We'll be back. (Fade to bumper music) (Commercial Break) AJ: That's right my friends it's eight minutes ten seconds into this 3rd hour of global transmission. I am so honored to have on Andreas von Bulow former German defense minister, head of their defense department and of course until just a few years ago, head of their technology system which is, that is a very high level post, just as high level as defense minister there in Deutschland. And he's written a best selling book and I've read some quotes out of it that have been translated into English. And the title translated is '911 and the CIA.' And he lays out the evidence of the military-industrial complex carrying out the attacks. Also we have lined up Michael Micher. And he of course was the English environmental minister who resigned over Tony Blair's fraud. He has written articles saying that if they didn't carry it out, they certainly funded and allowed them to take place. So, if you've got a brain, it's clear, and Mr. von Bulow, very intelligent individual has gone over this. So, sir, you've said that on the day of the event you began to look at it, you began to research it. And, from your specific expertise in intelligence and military and technology, you know heading up entire sectors of the world's third largest economy. Please discuss for us your research and how you wrote the book and what really happened on 9 11. AvB: Err, 9 11, I just watched the scenery. And I said there must have- gone something very [wrong]. I watched the TV for example and in the same minute that the TV showed the planes driving into the World Trade Center, you found these Palestinians dancing and laughing. And a few days later one could find out that this was fake. It was made by a TV crew of the defense ministry in Israel and they gave candies to the people and they laughed about it. And, nobody told it. And the question for me was who brought this TV stuff right in time into the national networks like CNN and CBS and so on and so on. And then we look for the, the story came out that this had been done by bin Laden and his Al-Qaeda and these 19 people of Muslim background, which did this. And you could watch the Persian journalist, and nobody showed up. Not one Arabic name was showing up there. And then one is interested to see video because all these 19 passengers must have passed the video, a lot of video cameras in Dallas, and New York, and Logan in Boston, and Portland in the North. You don't get this stuff. And then we're looking for the black boxes and we don't get them. And the story how these, these World Trade Center buildings broke down, they were constructed against an approach by airplanes. And, the firemen of New York, they were able to come to the floor where the fires were burning, and they said, the fire commander said he needed two teams, small, to fight these fires and then it's finished. So the heat, it is impossible that the heat was as high as it has been written in the papers and in all the media. AJ: And then, and then the feds declared that all firefighter tapes malfunctioned, turns out that wasn't true; we've got copies of them. And it did say that the firefighters said the fires were out or almost out. There is video of people standing in the holes of the buildings with no fire around them. And we're going to go over the evidence that's in your book, sir, and why you came to these educated conclusions. AvB: Yeah. AJ: But, first I want to ask you: have you heard the new developments, the owner of the World Trade Center slipped up on TV and said that they blew Building Seven up. The forty-seven story building that wasn't even hit by an aircraft. This just broke two weeks ago, have you heard this? AvB: Sure, I have heard this. I follow the whole scenery. Normally, it's coming out in Germany, but it's coming out in your country. It's a fascinating background to, to do research via Internet because all this stuff is broadly spread over the Internet. So it's very easy to follow, but in the main media you don't get to hear about this. AJ: Well tell you what, later this hour, it's only three minutes of audio clips, we will air from the PBS documentary 'America Rebuilding,' where they admit they blew up WTC 7. Now, that's important because they said that building fell from fire even though it wasn't hit by a plane. And now, he slips up and says we decided to demolish it on 9-11, but then the mainstream media just ignores that. This is a public admission, sir. AvB: Yeah, yeah especially that the CIA headquarters in New York was in, was within this building. I think the- how do you call it- the emergency center for the governor, the major, err, mayor was- AJ: Mayor and governor. AvB: -mayor was in this building. So, it was not hit by a plane, and the fire was very low. And the surrounding steel constructions were left over and didn't collapse. But, the Building 7 collapsed in late afternoon at 5 o' clock I think. AJ: Well, from our internal sources, they were running the attacks sir, out of the building and so conveniently got rid of the evidence in one fell swoop. AvB: This is one theory, it might be. It's convincing but one has to get the whole proof. But the problem is that the elements for proof are destroyed. AJ: Also- AvB: You will find them in Japanese cars and in ships of the American Navy. AJ: Also, sir, we have NORAD standing down for an hour and twenty five minutes but when we had the golfer Payne Stewart went off course for fifteen minutes, he was surrounded in eighteen minutes by five F-16s so why did NORAD stand down? AvB: Well, this is a big question because it happened in 2001 more than 60 times. That, fighter[s] went up to clear what has been done to airplanes that showed some irregularities. At 9 11, four planes for two hours were able to drive around, fly around even one hour in the direction going toward the west and then turn around and then comeback. The military air force was not able to interdict them. It's [un]imaginable. And the whole story is totally unclear what happened between the Federal Aviation Agency (Administration) and NORAD. AJ: Absolutely, now I don't know if you've seen the associated press but the CIA was running a drill 15 miles from the World Trade Center that day of flying jets into buildings in New York and DC. My internal sources inside the Pentagon, the lawyers who represent them have said on this show that they were told to stand down because it was quote 'just a drill.' That's how you get the good military to stand down; you tell them it's just a drill. And, that drill was going on at 830 in the morning. Is that not obvious, sir? AvB: It's quite obvious, yeah. It's quite, it's so strange and the most strange thing for me is that after two years you don't have a white book which is documenting everything. If you are looking for the timetable for example you have to make a medium between two or three or five newspapers and radio and TV announcements. So everything is unclear. On the other hand, the American government is running as the call it a world war against possibly sixty nations without really showing the background of 9/11. It's- for me, it's impossible. AJ: Now by that they admit that nine of the nineteen hijackers, the BBC says seven but it's nine, are still alive. Bin Laden has not been convicted, bin Laden is known CIA, you've got [George H. W.] Bush meeting with the head bin Laden that morning in DC at the Ritz Carleton, you've got the General of Pakistan, the head of their intelligence, meeting with the House and Senate chairs of the intelligence committee at 8:30 that morning, his second trip in his life to the United States. You've got the FBI paying for the houses, the cars, the credit cards of the supposed hijackers. I mean, sir, you start- you've got public officials, Mayor Willie Brown, Joint Chiefs of Staff told not to fly to New York that day. That's all admitted; what do you say to that? AvB: Well, it's all admitted. So for me, since the official version- it's not credible at all, it's totally incredible. The second solution for me is a covert operation. And this is a way to influence, to brainwash the American people into long, long, ongoing conflict with the Muslim world and all that you get to, for example the oil companies, the last oil reserves which we need for the next decades before the oil age is going out. And probably behind this is a geopolitical thinking that finally China has to be taken out. China is too big and you have to be able to- this is put down in the New American Century, which has been written by a lot of people who are now in government like Cheney, like Rumsfeld and others. AJ: And now, sir, we've got to break. We're going to get into the Project for a New American Century and Operation Northwoods. Were you aware of a US government plan to carry out 9 11 style attacks? AvB: You mean, Northwoods? AJ: Yes, sir. AvB: Yeah sure I know. AJ: Is that not a key piece of evidence? AvB: Well, this is a key piece, a key piece of evidence of the thinking of probably the military in dialogue with politics. Probably, I think Kennedy decided not to do it but I think it was, it was all of the- AJ: Tell you what, stay there. We've got to break; we'll be right back folks. (Fade to music) (Commercial Break) AJ: All right my friends, I'm Alex Jones your host. For the rest of the hour we are honored to have Andreas von Bulow, former Defense Secretary and former head of technology, Department of Technology in Germany. And he's just gotten out of government a few years ago and he's just written a best selling book '9 11 and the CIA' and we have info on that at Infowars.com and PrisonPlanet.com. We will also be posting this interview on the Website in the next few days as well. There are so many facets to this- Mr. von Bulow, continuing with you waking up to what happened on 9 11 and researching it, what are some of the other key points that clearly show that it is impossible that these nineteen people did this; we know that is a fraud. It is a conspiracy theory to say that they did it alone. From your intensive research and your understanding of high-level government activities, what do you think really happened on 9 11? AvB: Well, nobody can prove what happened 9 11 directly because it has been a covert operation and you don't find proof; you will find only indications. And one of the indications- the indication that everything is right with these nineteen people and Usama bin Laden is that the government is free to show all the prove that is on the table that is on the street that lays on the ground of the World Trade Center and so on and so on. If you have a covert operation the probability is always that the leftover pieces of proof are taken away immediately and a lot of secrecy, a band of secrecy, has taken over everything. And, this has happened with 9 11. AJ: And that also happened- where you aware the New York Times and Chicago Tribune reported this in '93, the FBI cooked the bomb and trained the driver[s] and had an Egyptian security agent doing it for them, had two retarded Muslims, literally retarded, drive the truck and park it, let the bombing go forward. At Oklahoma City, the same company that destroyed the remnants of the World Trade Center, blew up the remnants of Oklahoma City [and] had that buried under machine gun guard at a private landfill to this day. And they hauled the rubble away from the W T C to China! They wouldn't let you take photographs. Yes, exactly. AvB: Yeah, then at the beginning the engineers weren't allowed to go up to the steel truss [debris] and had a lot of problems- there was very scarce money. And you know, to clear up the story with Bill Clinton and Monica Lewinsky, the Republican majority gave out sixty million dollars, I think it's seventy now, and they started out with 600 000 dollars to try to figure out what happened on 9 11. And, they were taken away from doing research and so on and so on and they are upset. And, Fire Engineer Magazine said it was totally unbelievable what happened with this examination of 9 11. AJ: Well, they say it was a criminal cover up and now, sir, we've turned into a police state. They can secretly arrest citizens, secretly execute us. They are building admitted prison camps all over the country, this is in our news. We're turning into something like the Soviet Union here. AvB: Well, I can't comment on this but what's going on in Guantanamo is like that. I think the problem is that if you put people, who ever you like in Guantanamo in Cuba, you take them away for one or two years without letting a lawyer to them, without showing them what you are reprising to them, without having contact from their family- they tell in all court processes what the FBI is wanting from them- AJ: Well, sir- AvB: And so you get fake evidence from these kinds of people, if you behave like that. AJ: And sir, sir. Our mainstream news says that torture is good and they say they are torturing people, that's the Washington Post. Is that a concern that our government now admits it's torturing? AvB: Well, I'm informed- I don't know whether they are torturing, keeping them is a kind of a torture, but I am told there is an agreement with a lot of states to put these people to Egypt and other states where torture is accepted and is done and you get the final outcome of this torture and you can produce this in front of German courts and American courts and try to bring about final judgment. AJ: Well that's it. We'll be back; long segment coming up and we'll get more into your book. We're honored to have you, Andreas von Bulow. Stay with us. (Fade) (Commercial Break) AJ: All right folks. We're talking with Andreas von Bulow and to make this clear, up until about two years ago he was the head minister over the Department of Technology and before that he was the head of his party's group on defense. Now, we're going to take calls coming up here in just a few minutes, your chance to talk to Andreas von Bulow and the toll free number to join us on air is 1 800 259 9231. 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Because, if we don't expose the Globalists who clearly carried the attacks out, they're going to carry out more terror. And, they are setting up this police state; the survival of America and frankly the world is at stake because if the Globalists can use our military as their arm to attack sixty-three countries, it's over. So again, that's 1 888 253 3139. The films are 25.95 a piece, twenty buck if you buy three or more, my book is twelve dollars. Again: Inforwars.com or 'net or 1 888 253 3139. Now, going back to Andreas von Bulow, sir, we were talking during the break and I said what are some of the other key points that you would like to go over. You mentioned the CIA and insider trading and the Anthrax attacks. Please discuss it. AvB: Well, the insider trading, everybody knows that there [was] news about insider trading. I think altogether fifteen billion dollars. And, there was speculation about going down, of United Airlines and American Airlines; both airlines which were attacked by 9 11 and other things. So, normally you could find out because I think the American- the CIA together with the financial department, the Treasury, they developed this – watching the markets to find out speculation about going on terrorist attacks. So, they could immediately find out if there were something going on- and they could find out. And, in this case, they- 9 11- the NSA people which are the guys watching via satellites the whole of the transactions going on, on Earth, they said, they told the people to destroy the tapes. They had tapes about this interior trading and they said they had to destroy them so they are not any longer proof. AJ: Now again, interior trading that's a good term for it, insider trading. So again, insider trading or interior trading going on here and fifteen billion dollars, I think that's a low estimate. It came out the first week, Germany reported on it, France reported on it, the US, 'we're going to catch them!' Record put options against United and American; not against other airlines but specifically against these and it leads back to the CIA and suddenly they destroy the evidence. Again, again another smoking gun. Then, you get into anthrax attacks; Bush on Cipro, the most weaponized anthrax ever seen. Tell us about that. AvB: Well, there the question just is who has the responsibility for this! You know, it overlaid the whole public debate of what was the background and reason for 9 11 for weeks because these attacks were going on for weeks and weeks and weeks. And, finally nothing came out. We have no report on who was responsible, who did it and this again is amazing. I think it belongs probably to the cover up of the psychological cover-up of the whole scenery. And then, the vice-President and the President asking Congress not to go into too much detail about the background of 9 11. What does this mean? And until now it's what the President knew before 9 11 is a total secret. I think there is no secret service around the world which gave no hints to the American secret service community, the CIA, the DIA and so on and so on. They did nothing out of it. The most disturbing thing is that these guys that knew about something in coming up 9 11, were cutout before. I mean the local level of the FBI offices, they knew quite a lot and they tried to force the central organization to go into the details about Arabs taking lessons in flight schools and so on. And, the guy who decided on top, I think the second man who was in the FBI he [said] 'no we don't do this' and he got promoted after 9 11. AJ: By the way, the US embassies that allowed supposed Al- Qaeda back in got record cash bonuses. The FBI agents who ordered other FBI agents not to stop Al-Qaeda, they go bonuses. Bush signed W199I months before 9 11 ordering FBI not to stop Al-Qaeda. They threatened to arrest FBI Robert Wright if he tells us what he knows. I've interviewed his lawyer David Schippers who knew about the attacks beforehand. He went to Bush; Bush wouldn't talk to him, Ashcroft wouldn't talk to him. And you said something very astute, sir, you talked about the anthrax being a psychological cover-up of the scenery. That is, all these questions coming out in the early days about 9 11 got blacked out by the anthrax attacks and that's absolutely why that happened. We've tracked that back to Fort Detrick, Maryland. And they said it wasn't weaponized anthrax, it turned out it was the most weaponized ever seen. AvB: Yeah, that's absolutely correct and the wars which were reasoned to be fights against terrorism, the war against Afghanistan to put out the Taliban it was decided long before and I think in June before 9 11. The Afghanistan government- no, the Pakistan government and the Indian government [were] told there would be an intervention in October. AJ: Also, 44 000 US troops, 18 000 US troops were in Tajikistan and Uzbekistan, Bush had the battle launch orders on his desk two days before 9 11. AvB: That's exact, that's exactly- AJ: And sir, I want to digress back to torture for a minute because you have been, you've impressed by, I mean you know so much about this, you've researched it so well- On the torture issue, General Rick Baucus quit Guantanamo because he quote 'refused to torture the people there' and the CIA section chief bragged in the Washington Post that they fly them to foreign countries and then the CIA tortures them themselves so they do admit the torture. AvB: (Pause) Sure. I can't comment on this [but] it's obvious; all the court proceedings against for example against Moussaui I think it was the 20th nominally- it was supposed in each aircraft to have five hijackers and this one was taken into prison by the FBI. I think the process was made in Alexandria, Virginia and I think the judge said that if you don't give the proof [of] these guys who are running Al- Qaeda and give these people for cross-examination then I can deliver a judgment. The same is true in Germany; we have people who are related to Al-Qaeda-and probably Al-Qaeda is an artificial, err, [de]nomination of- AJ: CIA fiction. AvB:- a ruse of elements of Islamic people. In Hamburg, the trials are failing because the A | |