posted 01-29-2004 02:29 PM            

Nice to know that in principle and platform many here in America believe in the same tenets as the party you reference.

Thanks for this, halva!

posted 01-31-2004 06:33 AM            

1 Timothy 6:10
"For THE LOVE OF MONEY is the root of all evil"
It is the unrestrained robber baron brand of capitalism that is evil.

With sufficient government oversight, free market capitalism is among the best systems possible (IMHO)

Unions representing workers can be the necessary check and balance to the power of the wealthy.
Union pensions can agument Social Security,
union's Health Care can negate the need for medicaid and medicare.

Government regulators keeping down corruption on all sides...

keeping union officials from dipping into the till
and keeping corrupt (ken lay) executives from plundering employees contributions.

of course that begs the question:
"who's watching the watchers?"

As the Bush Administration so blatently proves;

Regulators, who have sold their souls to the highest bidder, do not regulate, they facilitate.

As America's FDA, USDA, DOE, FTC, FBI, and EPA function today like the 1930's Chicago cop who ignored murders but made sure Al Capone always had a parking space.

Some pray that mad cow steaks be served at every Bush fund raising dinner.

posted 01-31-2004 07:11 AM               

The German PDS, which is the core of this new would-be European party, has gone through many transformations. When the Communists took over in post-war East Germany, they absorbed the Social Democrats to become the Socialist Unity party. When East Germany began to collapse they Gorbachevised themselves and became the PDS. They are pragmatists and realpolitiker. They try to sense which way the wind is blowing and adapt. They talk about socialism the way American Republicans talk about the United States constitution and U.S. national sovereignty, i.e. a subject for ceremonial speeches.

They are a survivors' party. But they are firm on one thing, and that is opposition to racism in general and anti-Semitism in particular.

posted 02-04-2004 07:49 AM               

will notice that there is an article on the Czech Communist Party's opposition to the establishment of an all-European party 'of the Left' (to use this traditional terminology).
http://www.spectrezine.org/europe/CPBM.htm

The Greek Communists (but not the reformed 'ex-Communist' Synaspismos) have similar objections to an all-European party.

This debate is not at all irrelevant to Americans, because it is the exact counterpart of arguments in the United States over the powers of the Federal Government versus 'states rights'.

The established political parties in the United States, Democrats and Republicans, are federally organized. One cannot (as far as I know) stand as a Democrat in one's own state and a Republican in Washington, or vice versa, or at least not as a permanently exercisable right involving no stigmatising as a 'turncoat', 'traitor' or whatever.

The European Union pays lip service to something it calls 'subsidiarity', defined as "the principle whereby the Union does not take action (except in the areas which fall within its exclusive competence) unless it is more effective than action taken at national, regional or local level."...."The subsidiarity principle is intended to ensure that decisions are taken as closely as possible to the citizen and that constant checks are made as to whether action at Community level is justified in the light of the possibilities available at national, regional or local level."

Presumably, under the subsidiarity principle, a national party wishing to affiliate to a pan-European party should not be obliged to be affiliated with the same party at the national and local level as well.

If this subsidiarity principle were respected, it is conceivable that that Greek Communist Party could become a member of the all-European Party of the Left, along with Greece's Synaspismos. However it is absolutely inconceivable that Greece's two Communist and/or ex-Communist parties could ever become one party in Greek national politics.

Without real respect for the subsidiarity principle in political party formation the European Union will never be able to become a nation in the way that the United States has. A stable two-party system, like the American Republican-Democrat system, will not be able to develop.

Yet some such system is necessary if the
European Union is to acquire popular legitimacy and thus power.

The model which Europe's present-day rulers are trying to impose on Europe's populations, despite lip service to subsidiarity, is far closer to the Western European centralizing and bureaucratic traditions of the Catholic Church than it is to the decentralizing traditions of local autonomy favoured by Eastern Orthodox Christianity.

But the Eastern model is more feasible and viable for a new self-determining Europe than the Western model is. It is also (by the way) a model closer to popular American conceptions of local autonomy and opposition to 'big government'.

Much may well depend on whether the would-be pan-European party so bravely sketched out in Berlin a few weeks will opt for the Eastern Orthodox (and Protestant American?) model of local autonomy or for the centralized and bureaucratic model of the Catholic West.

posted 02-06-2004 08:38 PM            

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posted 02-06-2004 10:16 PM            

I feel strongly that this wicked Cabal (minority that seeks to drive the majority) is capable of anything and I wouldn't rule out a larger scale killing that this time would be in the tens if not hundreds of thousands. The anti-freedom forces are very much alive and active and just waiting for the right time to further the escalation of the Satanic NWO. The U.S. Constitution is holding back the flood (remember the contract they SWORE to uphold???) and those who seek it's destruction of protections are like salivating wolves at the door. Be not deceived. Many will come as wolves dressed in sheeps clothing. And the very Elect will be Deceived. Don't be one of them.

posted 02-11-2004 07:50 AM               

It is given a somewhat ironical treatment in this account:
http://www.indycymru.org.uk/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=474

The lack of seriousness of the Respect Coalition has led to one of its potential leaders, George Monbiot, distancing himself from it. The British Greens are also cool about having to compete for votes with the Respect Coalition.

The Respect Coalition should be urged to take up the climate change/geoengineering/chemtrails issue.
If they do this, they will pull the rug from under any possible criticism from the Greens.

I have e-mailed the Respect Coalition urging them to pay attention to chemtrails. For background I have cited my article in the Europarliament-based webmagazine Spectre:
http://www.spectrezine.org/global/Hall.htm

Rense has also run it:
http://rense.com/general49/change.htm

I urge them to adopt the theses of ATTAC-Hellas on geoengineering:
http://www.attac-hellas.org/seminars/geoengineering/programmeenglish.htm

Perhaps some Americans can start telling the Respect Coalition to wake up to chemtrails if they want to become a force to be reckoned with in Britain and Europe and to disarm the self-righteous Greens.

Of course, all this is "Left" politics and may not be to the taste of some Conservative Americans.

Patience. We are working on getting a "right-wing" equivalent on the road.

posted 02-15-2004 07:11 AM               

Lothar Bisky, head of the German Party of Democratic Socialism, was given a copy of the ATTAC-Hellas resolution in English:
http://www.attac-hellas.org/seminars/geoengineering/programmeenglish.htm

Nikos Constantopoulos, president of the Greek Synaspismos party,
http://www.synaspismos.gr

said publicly that consideration would be given to the ATTAC-Hellas resolution if it were submitted to the founding conference of the new party of the European Left.

The head of Synaspismos' international relations department, Panos Trigazis, took part in the ATTAC-Hellas seminar.

posted 02-15-2004 08:54 AM            

Are you familiar with the TV/radio broadcast of Democracy Now from Pacifica Radio hosted by Amy Goodman? They generally deal with social justice issues and other civil liberty concerns and would be an excellent source of exposure if they would do a story on the chemtrail/geoengineering projects. They are I believe one if not the largest "free-speech" (not beholden to corporations) news sources here in the states and serve a very large audience.

posted 02-15-2004 06:51 PM            

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Isn't that{garbage can} where Bush,
and the rest of the Neo Con Fascists have placed the Bill of Rights after first running it through the shredder. SmT

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How have the neo-Cons like a deadly virus been able to infect those Libertarian/Republican minded people that use real Freedom and Justice as an underlying guideing principle?? SmT

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The anti-freedom forces are very much alive and active and just waiting for the right time to further the escalation of the Satanic NWO. SmT

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Originally posted by Show-Me Truth:
The U.S. Constitution is holding back the flood (remember the contract they SWORE to uphold???) and those who seek it's destruction of protections are like salivating wolves at the door. Be not deceived. Many will come as wolves dressed in sheeps clothing. And the very Elect will be Deceived. Don't be one of them.

SmT

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Matthew 7:15
Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
(Whole Chapter: Matthew 7 In context: Matthew 7:14-16)

Matthew 24:11
And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
(Whole Chapter: Matthew 24 In context: Matthew 24:10-12)

Matthew 24:24
For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
(Whole Chapter: Matthew 24 In context: Matthew 24:23-25)

Mark 13:22
For false Christs and false prophets shall rise, and shall shew signs and wonders, to seduce, if it were possible, even the elect.
(Whole Chapter: Mark 13 In context: Mark 13:21-23)

"I don't have any respect for the Religious Right." -Barry Goldwater
Flo (insulted): Why, I've never been so insulted in my life!
Hackenbush (after looking at his watch): Well, it's early yet.
a Day at the Races
Remember selection 2000-
with it's careful recounts;
the Republican election official posturing for the cameras-
by holding a "hanging chad" ballot up to the light and turning it about to slow the count.
Remember the Supreme Court anointing Bush by
six Justices turning a lifetime of decisions upside down
as States Rights Judges ruled that Florida Courts couldn't interpret Florida election laws?
The Conservatives' God predicted all that back in 1955!
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"There are numbers I despise;
but I know them & they make wise.
I know what numbers are all about;
I count then carefully, I turn them about.
Six upside down
Helps me put on my crown."
"Satan's voice-from-the-fire"-1955-black mass,
re: "Michelle Remembers" pp236
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Pat Robertson had brainwashed his flock for years
to have a disdain for honest elections.
(in his master's service)
"I think 'one man, one vote,' just unrestricted democracy, would not be wise.
There needs to be some kind of protection for
the minority which the white people represent now,
and they need and have a right to demand a protection of their rights."
--Pat Robertson, "The 700 Club," 3/18/92

What does this have to do with environmentalism?
Democrats are the only truely GREEN party in America Today.
The false prophet Ralph Nader
(anti-corporate crusader nader who owns over 6 million in dorporate stock.
(worships Mammon like all those right wing preachers who preach Republicanism instead of Christianity)
Nader deceived the greens into not voting for Gore (environmental activist far more than long time environmentalist Kerry)

False prophets indeed!

By claiming there is no difference twixt Democrats and Republicans,
Nader enabled Bush to pass the safe forest clear cut logging at taxpayers' expense initiative.
enabled Bush to let Rnron write energy policy and environmental regulations that allowed coal fired power plants to not install scrubbers, but instead to continue to pollute our air and water with methyl mercury.

Europe has begun to protect the environment,
but the USA is still the world's worst pollutor.

posted 02-15-2004 09:57 PM               

In any case if an authentically pan-European two party system is created and succeeds in boosting the European integration process and challenging US global power (not militarily but through economics: the collapse of the dollar, bankruptcy etc.) then there will be a reversal of influence and instead of the right-wing and left-wing parties in Europe modelling themselves on the US Republicans and Democrats the opposite will occur and new right-wing and left-wing parties will arise in the United States.

Perhaps a Nader/Greens style party will replace the Democrats but there will be another European-influenced conservative party replacing the Republicans also.

Mike Ruppert is a politician who in my opinion should play an important role in a new American conservative party. I have tried to get leftists in Europe to support him, but they won't do it, with the exception of that one-off event in Berlin last September which does not look as if it has led anywhere. Perhaps Ruppert has another constituency in Europe.