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Topic:   Bush military records released...shows he IS guilty of Military Crimes

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Mech
Commitees of Correspondence


The Minuteman State
5967 posts, Jun 2001

posted 02-05-2004 09:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mech   Visit Mech's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

American Gulf War Veterans Association

Joyce Riley vonKleist, RN,BSN spokesperson

P.O. Box 85, Versailles, Missouri 65084

(573) 378-6049 (573) 378-5998 fax
http://www.gulfwarvets.com , gulfwar@dam.net

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE:

February 5, 2004

RELEASE OF PRESIDENT BUSH’S MILITARY RECORDS PROVE HE IS GUILTY OF MILITARY CRIMES

The American Gulf War Veterans Association can no longer remain silent on the subject of George W. Bush’s military records. FOX NEWS reporter Sean Hannity stated Wednesday evening that this was a question that had been resolved. Guest Howard Wolfson responded by saying that the President should release his records. If the media had been doing their homework they would know that the records have already been released. It is because of the actual content that these military records are not being disclosed.

Joyce Riley, spokesperson of The American Gulf War Veterans Association revealed on air in a two hour “white paper” report yesterday, Feb. 4, 2004, on The Power Hour radio show, (www.thepowerhour.com) that George W. Bush’s military records indicate that he was not present for his entire six year required service to the military. Even more shocking and significant is that he did, in fact, deny a direct order, during time of war, and was suspended from flying. The debate may rage on the major networks about whether or not he was AWOL, however the documentation exists and is available at http://users.cis.net/coldfeet/document.htm

Riley, who has also been a testifying expert in medical malpractice trials for fifteen years states: “There is no question he is guilty of major military crimes and should be held accountable. The military records confirm these accusations. No matter how many of his “buddies” they “pull out of a hat” to say he was present, the records speak for themselves. Thousands of veterans, from Atomic Veterans, Vietnam War, Project Shad, and Gulf War I have been denied compensation because the V.A. and Department of Defense state that their “records” don’t prove exposure to chemicals, biological agents, experimental vaccines and depleted uranium. ( www.gulfwarvets.com/ao.html ), Project Shad and Gulf War victims now suffer and cannot prove their records exist. (www.projectshad.org.) Mr. Bush’s records do prove without a doubt that he denied a direct order during time of war, and this, by definition is Treason.

The AGWVA will provide FOX NEWS, CNN, ABC, CBS, NBC and BBC with copies of these documents by contacting this organization. The millions of prior service personnel who served proudly will be outraged when they read what the present Commander in Chief is guilty of —and is not being held accountable for. Innocent troops that are simply protecting their health and their families from the anthrax vaccine are being court martialed. How can the President stand before them when he is guilty of so much worse? Full reports on the military records of George W. Bush will be available at: www.gulfwarvets.com and www.thepowerhour.com.

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Mech
Commitees of Correspondence


The Minuteman State
5967 posts, Jun 2001

posted 02-05-2004 01:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mech   Visit Mech's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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JerseyBluEyz
Trust the Universe


Northeast
1141 posts, Jul 2003

posted 02-05-2004 01:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JerseyBluEyz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Mech:
The AGWVA will provide FOX NEWS, CNN, ABC, CBS, NBC and BBC with copies of these documents by contacting this organization. The millions of prior service personnel who served proudly will be outraged when they read what the present Commander in Chief is guilty of —and is not being held accountable for.

Such a fine example he is for our servicemen! It will be interesting to see which mainstream media news station, if any, even bothers to carry this story. Maybe if one station jumps on the bandwagon they all will (one can only hope!). Just like everything else, this will probably make international news headlines and we'll have our typical media blackout! ha!

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Mech
Commitees of Correspondence


The Minuteman State
5967 posts, Jun 2001

posted 02-05-2004 02:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mech   Visit Mech's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
They are complicit in this whole affair.

I PRAY that someday the YUPPIES will finally wake out of their stupid selfish slumber and WAKE UP.

Otherwise they are being COMPLICIT...we will lose this country without a wimper.

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shatoga
Agent Provocateur


1087 posts, Nov 2002

posted 02-08-2004 07:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for shatoga     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In 2000,
I watched and listened to the media parrot:
"Nobody has come forth and said they personally saw Bush use drugs."

(in 2000) I called ten reporters and made the same offer to each.

"Arrange a polygraph test by state police;
Then accept my affidavit that I saw with my own eyes...(then let me give you five others who also saw W doing drugs/ same deal)

>I was in a house in the Montrose section of Houston, buying a pound of pot (statement against self interest)
I stood in the kitchen,
and looked through the doorway into the dining room;
There I saw the Democratic Mayor of Houston and 'the Congressman's son' ('dumb as dirt W' as he was known back then)
snorting lines of coke from the glass topped coffee table.

I had campaigned for his daddy George HW Bush, and knew the out of control son on sight.


Only one reporter called me back.
She said: "I have been removed from political reporting.
I now cover garden parties and flower shows."

"My editors says: 'Nobody cares about Bush's fdrug use anyway.'"

I commented about how 'conservatives spent eight years consumed with concern about whether Clinton had ever smoked a joint.

She informed me that staying alive is better than getting the goods on a politician.
***

since 01;
i have visited every american Legion Post in the deep south.

Goal is to find a legionaire/ former Alabama National Guardsman/
who can honestly swear to having seen W at even one al;abama Guard meeting during the year he was a deseryter.

7 thousand dollars offered for anyone who saw W at a Buard meeting during that year.

NO takers.
Nobody willing to lie, even for seven thousand dollars.

The deserter-in-chief
is abandoned by veterans who,
despite being rabid rightwingers.
still will not lie for the deserter in the white house



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Mech
Commitees of Correspondence


The Minuteman State
5967 posts, Jun 2001

posted 02-09-2004 09:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mech   Visit Mech's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bush's missing year
In 1972, George W. Bush dropped out of his National Guard service and later lied about it. With the media finally paying attention, will he now come clean?

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By Eric Boehlert

http://salon.com/news/feature/2004/02/05/national_guard/index_np.html


Feb. 5, 2004 | In 1972, George W. Bush simply walked away from his pilot duties in the Texas Air National Guard. He skipped required weekend drill sessions for many months, probably for more than a year, and did not take a mandatory annual physical exam, which resulted in his being grounded. Nonetheless, Bush, the son of a well-connected Texas congressman, received an honorable discharge.

If an Air National guardsman today vanished for a year, military attorneys say that guardsman would be transferred to active duty or, more likely, kicked out of the service, probably with a less-than-honorable discharge. They suggest the penalty would be especially swift if the absent-without-leave guardsman were a fully trained pilot, as Bush was.

Bush's National Guard record, long ignored by the media, has surfaced with a vengeance. If the topic continues to rage, and if the media presses him, Bush may finally be forced to release his full military records, which could reveal the truth. By refusing to make all those records public, Bush has until now broken with a long-standing tradition of U.S. presidential candidates.

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Mech
Commitees of Correspondence


The Minuteman State
5967 posts, Jun 2001

posted 02-11-2004 06:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mech   Visit Mech's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
GEORGE W. BUSH RELEASES MILITARY SERVICE RECORDS. IT BACKFIRES.

President George W. Bush has had the White House release his disputed military pay records, and the results are not what George Bush obviously hoped for and what his PR man is spinning so superficially. Looking closer, the military service pay and retirement records prove that George Bush is GUILTY AS CHARGED by Sen. John Kerry and others.

The records show George W. Bush was paid for only 9 days' service between May 1972 and May 26, 1974, when his 6 years in the Texas Air National Guard were up. That's 9 days out of 2 years while your fathers, sons, brothers, comrades-in-arms, uncles, and friends were dying in Vietnam. In 2 years (24 months), a "normal" ANG member would have attended twenty-four 2-day weekend drills and two 2-week summer encampments: a total of 68 days. Bush served 9, according to the records just released.

The records basically show that Bush did not attend required drills for the final two years of his ANG service: guilty as charged. He had been ordered to attend "nine certain duty days in person during Summer Camp at Ellington AFB between May 22 and June 7." THOSE ARE THE 9 DAYS THE WHITE HOUSE HAS JUST UNEARTHED. THAT'S 9 DAYS OUT OF 2 YEARS. Apparently he did not serve at all - for 2 years - except for 9 days during one 2-week period.

President Bush was prematurely discharged from the Texas ANG on October 1, 1973 (the guys in the rice paddies should have been so lucky) to attend Harvard. BASICALLY, THE FACT REMAINS THAT, BETWEEN MAY 1972 AND OCTOBER 1, 1973, BUSH WAS ABSENT WITHOUT PERMISSION. THIS WOULD HAVE CONSTITUTED AWOL IF ANYONE NOTICED AND CARED. Senator Kerry and the Democrats have been generous in limiting claims of shirking to only the year between May 1972 and May 1973.

The basic facts about whether Bush fulfilled his obligation are simple, as presented here. A complete timeline of his service is at http://www.uggabugga.blogspot.com/2003_01_12_uggabugga_archive.html .

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Boomer Chick
Senior Member

Colorado
407 posts, Sep 2003

posted 02-11-2004 09:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Boomer Chick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yuppies are the culprits, the sheeples in this blind allegiance to an idiot king? ?

Not rednecks?

Not ignorant uneducated, fundamentalist right-to-lifers?

Not news-ignoring (notice the similarities in the words "ignore" and "ignorant!") money grubbing CEO's?

Not insurance company execs and oil company execs?

Not ignorant rural farmers fighting tooth and nail to follow the Republican line as they used to know it -- not realizing it has changed?

Not employees and execs of government- contracted companies such as Lockhheed Martin, Martin Marietta, etc., etc.?

Not NASA community employees?

Not WWII generation retired military that don't bother to read and think anymore?

Not homophobic portions of the population?


Look, Mech, you can't just call out one sector of the population on this split in America!

Yuppies? Frankly, many of those yuppies just might be politically active now and even for progressive and liberal causes!

Think you need a little broader application of the nearly 50% of the population who hopelessly feed on whatever the major media feeds them!

With all due respect!

bc

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Mech
Commitees of Correspondence


The Minuteman State
5967 posts, Jun 2001

posted 02-11-2004 09:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mech   Visit Mech's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Self indulgent YUPPIES are the plastic flag waving, 40, 000 dollar car driving, 500, 000 dollar home buying yahoos are DEFINATELY part of the problem. A lot of these people are 100% asleep and think Bush is the next Jesus.

No im NOT being short sighted. Its ONE portion of the population I don't particularly care for. You could say I've had a LOT of experience DEALING with them.A lot of those people think they are above you just because they make more than you do. F* Heirachy.The SAME people who think its a BIG JOKE that skilled labor is going overseas..but they think their "professional" skills will be safe. I'm tired of these people. They need a good kick in the pants.


Sorry if you don't like it.

End of rant

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the professor
KNOW YOUR ROLE

heartland USA
1164 posts, Jan 2003

posted 02-11-2004 11:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for the professor   Visit the professor's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey now,

quote..
Not rednecks?

Not ignorant uneducated, fundamentalist right-to-lifers?

Rednecks? are all people from the south considered to be this? hey they can't help it if they get a little sun burnt.

uneducated right to lifers? so you have to be educated to choose to kill a baby rather than bring a life into the world?

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JerseyBluEyz
Trust the Universe


Northeast
1141 posts, Jul 2003

posted 06-24-2004 07:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JerseyBluEyz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote


Since Dumbya’s alleged military record has been a controversy for four years now, you would think that more complete records would be released to quiet everyone down huh? The tidbits that WERE released back in February 2004(?) apparently did not quite pacify the Associated Press, among others. I could not find the original article, but a few months ago the AP requested a complete copy of the AWOL (p)Resident’s records and received NO REPLY. Are we surprised? So, they filed a law suit this week in order to receive a copy of the microfilmed records in question! Woo Hoo! Way to go AP!

http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/stories/bw-wh/2004/jun/22/062209687.html


June 22, 2004
AP Sues for Access to Bush Guard Records
By PETE YOST
ASSOCIATED PRESS

WASHINGTON (AP) - The Associated Press sued the Pentagon and the Air Force on Tuesday, seeking access to all records of George W. Bush's military service during the Vietnam War.

Filed in federal court in New York, where The AP is headquartered, the lawsuit seeks access to a copy of Bush's microfilmed personnel file from the Texas State Library and Archives Commission in Austin.

The White House says the government has already released all the records of Bush's military service.

Controversy surrounds Bush's time in the Texas Air National Guard because it is unclear from the record what duties he performed for the military when he was working on the political campaign of a U.S. Senate candidate in Alabama.

There are questions as to whether the file provided to the news media earlier this year is complete, says the lawsuit, adding that these questions could possibly be answered by reviewing a copy of the microfilm of Bush's personnel file in the Texas archives.

The Air National Guard of the United States, a federal entity, has control of the microfilm, which should be disclosed in its entirety under the Freedom of Information Act, the lawsuit says.

The White House has yet to respond to a request by the AP in April asking the president to sign a written waiver of his right to keep records of his military service confidential. Bush gave an oral waiver in a TV appearance that preceded the White House's release this year of materials concerning his National Guard service.

The government "did not expedite their response ... they did not produce the file within the time required by law, and they will not now estimate when the file might be produced or even confirm that an effort has been initiated to retrieve a copy from the microfilm at the Texas archives," the lawsuit says.

In the absence of any privacy objection by the president and in light of the importance of the file's release in advance of the November election, says the lawsuit, AP seeks a court order to compel the release of records "that are being unlawfully withheld from the public."

The released records were from the Texas Air National Guard at Camp Mabry and the Defense Financing Accounting Service in Denver.

Under Texas law, a copy of military personnel files of those serving in the Texas Air National Guard must be retained on microfilm at the Texas archives.

The lawsuit says that no one has looked at any of the Texas Air National Guard records maintained at the state archives since 1996.

Responding to AP's request, the Texas Air National Guard concluded that Bush's file was a federal record under control of the U.S. Air National Guard.

When the government did not produce the documents, AP appealed to the Pentagon, saying that by law, the microfilm copy should have been produced within 20 days. The Pentagon said it could not respond within the legally required period.

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